View Full Version : Boat vs Shore
Got Stripers 09-26-2003, 06:23 PM I have to say I tire of this long standing who can spit farther contest, but what blows my mind is that people (sorry tattoo nothing personal) have the nubs to say boat fish don't count. Let's take a look at what really happens here.
Shore Fisherman: Study structure, bait & preditor habits, tides & current affects on feeding, affects of the moon, wind & season on their prey, changes in beaches yearly, take written or mental notes on when & where they have had success and under what conditions and year after year with continued hard work achieve additional success.
Boat Fisherman: Ditto basically, less maybe paying too much attention to changes in the beach layouts seasonally.
I've been both, in fact I've got a pair of shore caught 42 and 43 lbers sitting watching me type this, so I've been on both sides of the fence. I appreciate that hard work, experience and time on the water or beach are what pay out the dividends. Sure us lazy arse boaters might be able to more easily change locations, structure, depth and many other things critical to success, but to believe that large are lined up like cordwood to jump in the boat is naive. I'm sure any number of surf fishers that have paid their dues, have had nights that rival anything boaters have seen, in fact my most memoral blitz came off a beach in Scituate. Why was I there to take advantage, let me think; putting in my time.
Cracks me up and although I'm not going to having any pissing or spitting contests with anyone over this argument; I think in light of the plight (past/present/future) of our quarry it matters little were it came from.
Just my humble opinion, blitz you go get a 40 lber now, I'll count it any day of the week.
BigBo 09-26-2003, 08:55 PM I totally agree. I was out in my boat all day this past Monday and logged close to 50 miles and came up completely empty. So, even though I'm able to move around a lot doesn't mean I'm always going to put fish in the boat.
I'll leave it at that except to say that boat fishing certainly doesn't always make things easier. You just spend a lot more money pursuing your quarry.:smash: :D
capesams 09-26-2003, 09:27 PM just look at the line down below...done both,,have done well at both...it's your choice an I'll respect that choice.....just don't stick your choice in my face cause I won't stick mine in yours...;)
missing link 09-26-2003, 09:28 PM the way i look at it (striper freak ) going surf fishing comming up empty is no fun. But going out on a boat and come up empty is still fun caz your out on the water havin fun :)
Tattoo 09-27-2003, 08:00 AM I have to say I tire of this long standing who can spit farther contest, but what blows my mind is that people (sorry tattoo nothing personal) have the nubs to say boat fish don't count.
They don't count in MY book, and don't worry Bob, some day you too will see the light and sell the boat.:laughs:
Clammer 09-27-2003, 09:34 AM Here we go again /////////////////////////////////:smash:
beachwalker 09-27-2003, 10:50 AM GS,
I totally agree with you. It is Luck and What you know that makes one a successful fisherman. I am a beach fisherman. NOT because I DON"T own a boat. I WANT one, just can't afford it yet.
But, for the record...........
On Nantucket, you can demolish Bass ALL season long, ANY TIME of the day with a boat. From the beach it is a Night/Change of light program. We all know the score there. I enjoy beach fishing because it is simple (here) to hop in the truck and head out for an hour. No big prep and not too much questimating.
In my opinion BOTH techniques deserve respect. Kind of like Fly fishing versus spin. One compliments the other.
The pissing contest is very childish. Schoolyard crap in my opinion.
Tonight should be decent. Make sure we remember that there is another swell coming. :(
Be careful ;)
Slipknot 09-27-2003, 11:16 AM When I had my boat for 3 years, I caught more fish from shore. So I sold that money pit. I am a lousy boat fisherman.
likwid 09-27-2003, 11:42 AM Dead argument...
You can do spinning vs casting
eels vs plugs
plugs vs chunk
van staal vs penn
i've caught big fish from shore and from boats
who cares
if its how you like to fish
and if you catch fish your way
good on ya :)
p.s. mr zogs sex wax infront of the window smells damn good :D
MightyMouse 09-27-2003, 12:38 PM You can sip some suds while sitting on the sands;) I've done only a limited amount of fishing from a boat, but it does have it's good points. Still, I love being able to walk and move around quite a bit.
Tagger 09-27-2003, 01:51 PM Fishing from shore your nailed right where you stand..Your at the mercy of everything around you that the bass might wrap around..If its slow fishing and you hiked out you can't just pick up and run. Alot of times, if you can't cast you can't catch...You can't back up to the fish if you hook up a nice one ..You can fish the Ditch :D ..Every contest I know has 2 seperate catergories for shore and boat and for good reason..Boat guys are very skilled navigators for the most part..You don't see many fishing at night ..I love incoming weather or Small craft avisory warnings ...Thats some good fishing brother ...;)
JHABS 09-27-2003, 02:21 PM Had boats, and will maybe get another But there is nothing like a SURF caught BASS. Buy surf I mean getting beat to s%#* by waves and wind and getting to them rocks.. ahhhhhh KORKERS CUTS and BUMPS and BRUISES.....Think I will go tonight...................
Got Stripers 09-27-2003, 03:42 PM Tatoo I saw the light and felt the lower back, it's called age, your turn will come and I bought a boat. I never got a shot a albies in my waters, but today I did and put my friend on 4 of them, 2 for myself and without a boat it would have been a crap shoot. I also have to say, I understand why people have albie fever, what a rush on light gear.
While waiting and watching I put us on several good rips that had developed and put two keepers in the boat for eating and boated a dozen or so shorts, along with some blues. I didn't have to walk miles, sweat my arse off, lug a bunch of #^&#^&#^&#^& and I've got my teenager power washing the boat right now. Yup saw the light and it continues to shine bright:), not that I don't pull on the waders every so often.
MikeTLive 09-27-2003, 03:58 PM If you motored to where you fish it doesn't count.
You have to walk, pedal, or paddle.
Also, you need to manufacture your own gear (hooks, lures, line, pole) from natural materials.
:D
KLMulder 09-27-2003, 04:01 PM If you want to be a real man you would hand fish ( no pole line or hooks ) for blue's.
MikeTLive 09-27-2003, 04:07 PM Better still, go skinny dip down the canal....
Originally posted by Got Stripers
Shore Fisherman: Study structure, bait & preditor habits, tides & current affects on feeding, affects of the moon, wind & season on their prey, changes in beaches yearly, take written or mental notes on when & where they have had success and under what conditions and year after year with continued hard work achieve additional success.
Boat Fisherman: Ditto basically, less maybe paying too much attention to changes in the beach layouts seasonally.
sure any number of surf fishers that have paid their dues, have had nights that rival anything boaters have seen, in fact my most memoral blitz came off a beach in Scituate. Why was I there to take advantage, let me think; putting in my time.
You forgot to mention that boat fishermen study their fishfinder and yell out when trolling.."Fish in 10 seconds!"
Boat fish count, but I have a lot more respect for the skilled shore angler:D
rocketman 09-27-2003, 06:01 PM Fishing is more than catching fish. Just being out in the natural environment, with something to distract you from lifes usual goings on is worth the venture. I went to Weekapaug just before hurricane Isabel. The waves were too big to get my plug out, so I headed over to the jetty. Wasn't catching anything for the whole evening, zip zero nada! I had the nicest evening though. So it doesn't matter how you go about it, surf or boat, it's how it makes you feel. "Whatever floats your boat"
Rocket
capesams 09-27-2003, 06:45 PM I go out in the boat ta get away from those who like to look in the back of ya truck when your not lookin, cast over your line and come an stand 2 feet from you when heres no one else on the beach. then theres the ones that like to put their head lights on the water your fishin an o yeh the lanterns....gs your right, then comes age,,,I guess it depends on what kind of work you do during the day....that makes a big differents if ya got the umph after ya get home.........fish finders are only good ta read bottom..
missing link 09-27-2003, 07:25 PM Well they have spitting contests down south some people can spit 55 to 70 ft I'm practing for the world record, besides that
I've done shore caught fish now I have the boat and caught fish
I'ts been the best summer I've had on my boat in years it makes me Happy later ,LINK
likwid 09-27-2003, 07:38 PM Fish finder?
You mean you need a fish finder?
:D
beachwalker 09-27-2003, 07:45 PM Ah yes Mr. Habs.
Exactly the same thrill for I......... :)
BigBo 09-27-2003, 08:09 PM Tagger, I love being out on the boat at night.:D You don't have to deal with all the amateurs and takes more skill too.:uhuh: If you want to try it some night, say the word. I'm local to you.:kewl:
MikeTLive 09-27-2003, 08:15 PM How about a fish call...
:scream: HEEEEEERE FISHY FISHY FISHY:scream:
:scream: HEEEEEERE FISHY FISHY FISHY:scream:
:laughs:
Clammer 09-27-2003, 09:25 PM Rocketman said what we all feel//even if some of us don,t know it yet///////// its the things that draw us to the water //its not always the fish=========its the sky,the waves ,the smell, its all of it =for us to enjoy in our own special way/////////
when my Mom died a few years ago it was a time in my life [3 years] that I didn,t have a boat bigger than my tin skiff////
I needed the water =& my family knew it //
I went down to a friends house & told her my mom had passed ,, Where is Ted?? she said on the lobster boat ,but here is his cell # = I called him & asked if I could borrow his flat bottom wooded skiff =no problem =I went home got a jug a water & a set of tongs &went out for hours==========I can,t relate to you all what that meant to me /////
we all just gotta enjoy what we have //&let others do the same /////////////
besides all of that '''''''::@#$%^^%$ BLUEFISH+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Got Stripers 09-27-2003, 09:38 PM Originally posted by Eben
You forgot to mention that boat fishermen study their fishfinder and yell out when trolling.."Fish in 10 seconds!"
Boat fish count, but I have a lot more respect for the skilled shore angler:D
Trolling, I don't troll and it's got to be pretty snotty out for me to consider anchoring up to chunck. I'll stroll my big grub around on occassion, but I don't even own heavy enough gear to troll them 9er rigs.
After much consideration of this debate I have come to the conclusion that for me at this time in my life, boat fish don't count!! BUT..... when I get my centerconsole bass chaser one day hopefully I'll loose count!
No trolling for me though... I think I'd feel better drifting eels
MikeTLive 09-27-2003, 10:16 PM September 15, 2001
I had been getting worse every day. No concentration.
hard to get up. hard to get to sleep.
watching any TV show I could find to try and wrap my brain around just what the hell had happened in NY.
I told my wife I neede to go out on my boat.
I towed it down to the ramp, got it out there, tied it up to an empty mooring, laid down on the floor and watched the silent sky.
No planes had flown since the 11th.
I just laid there watching the clouds drift along changing shape and size as they passed.
Fhen I realized the tide had gone back out Who knows how many hours had passed. I decided to go back in.
That boat was my sanctuary. It still is.
devils fiddle 09-28-2003, 01:41 AM valid points by all. get off the unit and go put a line in water. enough already, be done with it. boats, beach, liveline, plugs, even fly if thats how real you are. have a good time and enjoy. go fishing.
:rolleyes:
l.i.fish.in.vt 09-28-2003, 07:57 AM i have been a boat fisher for 43 of my 48 years and surffisher for 7.if you have to worry which is better you are missing a part of what fishing is all about,its not about how big or how many, its about being outside, the waves rocking the boat the drunk feeling after being rocked all day the surf pounding your feet. the new people you meet, fishing with old freinds.this new mentallity of which is better and the emphsis on size and quantiy is the down fall of the sport. as far as fishfindes go, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.
I've got my biggest bass of the year from the boat, and I got the second biggest bass of the season from shore, I love to do either, however given the choice I'd rather be on the boat.
Karl F 09-28-2003, 08:16 AM As long as your fishing and not working, WHO CARES?
Read CS's signature, kinda says it all.... and if thats the toughest decision ya have to make, you have it rough now, dont ya!
MikeTLive 09-28-2003, 09:11 AM When I leave the house I say where I'm goin.
Sometimes I say - "...go'in out'n the boat"
translation: I might be fishing. concentration is being on the boat
Sometimes I say - "...go'in down the pier"
translation: I might be fishing. concentration is being at the pier
Sometimes I say - "...go'in down the canal"
translation: I might be fishing. concentration is being at the canal
Sometimes I say - "...go'in to the beach (egypt, minot, peggoty, sandy...)"
translation: I might be fishing. concentration is being at the beach
However, whenever I say - "I'm go'in fishing!"
translation: I will be fishing. concentration is on fishing
However, you might find me in the boat, on the pier, at the canal or on the beach.
As a wise boyscout once said... "fishing is fishing."
:happy:Now, get out there and fish!:happy:
Goose 09-28-2003, 11:44 AM Can you blame the older guy for wanting to fish out the boat more often. I'm not that old but my knees cramp up on me more and more then say three years ago,,, woods, water, work is catchin up. I tell the younger surf heads do it hard while you can. One my dreams like many of us is to pull that fish of a life time out of the suds. 4 to 5 nights a week are turning into 2-3. maybe its wiser pickin those special nights ;).
Fish finder?? who doesn't have one on their boat?? I guess theres no excuses for not boating "large" every other time you head out:smash: I mostly use mine for dept and structure and locating bait like pog's and macks. I'm sure the more pricey ones are fish pointers.
I know I would of bought a boat along time ago if I could afford one and had a place to store it ect. and I think alot of surf casters would. I get more satisfaction out of the surf but wouldn't you want to fish the Elizabeths, block or deeper water come summer, not everyone has a summer late night hole.
You wanna be as versital as possible. But if all you do is beach or just boat, troll, chunk,fly...what ever, so what do you care what anyone else thinks. Do what you you love and what relaxes you after a hard days work, we know life can be hecktic some times....TIGHT LINES!!
Slingah 09-28-2003, 11:48 AM Whatever is good for you
It's not a contest
Boat fish still don't count:D
beachwalker 09-28-2003, 07:52 PM Now I am not trying to be a prick here but there is one thing that boat fishing has over beach.
If you could see how easy it is to leave the dock in Nantucket Harbor, in the middle of the day, in the middle of summer and (go ahead) pick the HOTTEST day of the year. If you couldn't plunk an eel down in the channel and come up with a keeper fish in less than 1/2 an hour you got serious angling issues.
Or take a cruise around the corner of Great Point and go out to ANY of the shoals and take a gander down into the depths and watch the HERDS of 20 lb + fish racing back and forth...........
And somebody's going to then state that beach fishing is better than boat ? :laughs:
Sometimes you guys are too much.
And most times I know that you are all just pulling each others leg.
If any get the jones to catch fish and it is pissing you off that you can't get one of the beach. Fly over and go out with ANY of the charters here.
It is a no brainer. And that is WHAT I MEAN when I stand up for the beach fisherman.......
Love you guys..............:D
Notaro 09-28-2003, 09:01 PM Sometimes the boat can give you a better casting range and chase the fishes. The shore gives you fun and mobility to land the fish. The boat has enough room for cooler and craps and mobility because you can unload your stuffs on it. The shore is a pain in the butt when you gotta carry a cooler to a spot like me! My height gets dwarfen that way. It strains my spine and muscles. Hey, thats why we got the beach buggies. Both them are fine when a given advantage occurs or when a given stragetied and timed plan to fish and catch it or them...
You mean people actually fish from the shore ????????:D
Hmmmm..;)
Notaro 09-29-2003, 11:54 AM of course, they do. ;)
rocketman 09-29-2003, 08:17 PM God bless boat fishermen, it leaves more room on the shore!
Notaro 09-29-2003, 08:19 PM Originally posted by rocketman
God bless boat fishermen, it leaves more room on the shore!
so untrue. boating space can be cramped sometimes...
Mr. Sandman 09-30-2003, 06:52 AM I do both (and enjoy both), boat and shore....for bass I mostly surf fish. I actually enjoy hiking and climbing my way around some island looking for that great spot to take a big fish. The personal reward is much sweeter.
But the other day I was boat fishing with my surf rod so close to a beach I could put my eel almost on the beach. Got 10 fish ( in the 20's) from 5:30-7:00am and was back home to take the kids to school. I also enjoyed that trip. Would I rather catch a 50 in the suds? sure. It is just easier from a boat. You can cover an amazing amount of real estate and fish different methods and carry a ton of stuff.
The fish on my wall is a surf bass. I would not mount a boat fish. Unless it was a record fish. A 50#er is a big fish boat or shore but IMO if it was hauled up trolling wire or drifting scup in deep water with 50# braid.... its no trophy, its just a big fish.
rwilhelm 09-30-2003, 07:23 AM I think we can all agree that it is more challenging to land a big fish from land. In a boat you can cover a lot more area and reach deeper water. With that being said boat fish do count I just think it is a little easier than shore fishing.
Fishpart 09-30-2003, 07:33 AM It's about the fishing.................... To me it doesn't really matter, most of the time if I'm boat fishing I'm within a good surf cast of the shore. Unfortunately some of the places I boat fish can't be reached on foot by a mere commoner.
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 07:42 AM Yea, that's it......
So we are finally ALL in agreement that fishing is fishing and boat or shore is good as long as we are fishing, right ?
It seems to me that some shore people have some bitterness towards the boat people. What is up with that ? Are you bummed that they might kill the fish that YOU wanted to kill.
I have a mount of the American Eel on my bumper of my truck that I caught a 53 lber on. And a plug that I caught another one on is in my safe deposit box. These trophies are SO important to me that i want EVERYONE to recognize them. I am such an amazing fisherman...... :laughs: :laughs: .
Krispy 09-30-2003, 08:00 AM It seems to me that some shore people have some bitterness towards the boat people
Are you bummed that they might kill the fish that YOU wanted to kill.
:rolleyes: Get a grip dude
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 08:28 AM Ok so let's see how long it takes for the Krispy vs. Beachwalker pissing contest to sort itself out........
Krispy. The ignorant display I refer to is YOUR statement to "Get a grip".
Seek first to understand THEN to be understood.
Clammer 09-30-2003, 08:40 AM AS I stated before ==its not all the fish ==its the combiniation , on being outdoors that we all enjoy, but some of you won,t let up
I think most boat fisherman will agree the most times a shore caught bass is a greater acheivement,,,,,,,
but some of you shore guys think a boat ==equals a piece of a cake fishing ==not so ,,,,,,,,,
Got Stripers said it correctly , when he said time takes it toll on the body/////////////I still shore shore fish ,but not if it means knocking the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of myself or dropping of a heart attack =========thats fun , thats sport ==========I don,t think so===============thats stupid
If boat fishing is so easy I invite anyone whose so adament against it ===to come take my boat =lets see what you can do =========lets see if you have the balls & knowledge to fish where I fish ?????????/ or cause being a hardcore shore fisherman =who fishes at night we,ll do that tooooooo// lets add some fog also ///
think its easy =fish with got stripers & see what it liked to be outfished with plastics
go
next to Cape Sam & fish the way he does =see how you do
get a boat , come where ,im fishing a t& w =no wire [which I don,t do any more] & see if you can match me , Bluefish & scup don,t count/////
how would you feel if we went & got 24 pogies right now & then went fishing in the same boat , I smoaked the large & if you got lucky you got Bluefish =you won,t catch a bass unless it my mistake///
You guys just won,t let this rest=its what each & every one of us enjoy no matter where, when & how we do it
How many do we go & not fish hard or we stop to see the sunrise ,or the waves break, or the smell of low tide =do you actually think thats limited to shorefisherman///
How easily we forget how lucky we are ,,
we are phycially able to go =many can,t////
we can finicially [???] go many can,t ////
we are allowed to go ,, many ,many ,many can,t=======look around this world . put this its proper place ,, let it rest =and all enjoy what we have have & don,t take it for granted===========================
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Great response Clamdigger.....It takes alot of time, effort, money, and experience to get fish by boat also. We are not talking about running up to a school of fish breaking the surface that will hit anything thrown at them. To pull some big bass out it's usually going to take some live bait, proper tides, currents, and conditions. I have been boat fishing for 3-years and I am the first to admit I don't know squat "YET"....but I am learning quick.
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 09:07 AM And 179 is right on with Clamdigger. It ain't easy from the boat. It takes preparation and boatmanship.
But there are an AWFUL lot of big son's a guns that you can put yourself on from a boat.
I head over to Tuckernuck today for an afternoon of fishing the area and a night of hitting it's beaches. Sleeping over at a friends house and fishing again in the AM.
Fancy that. Boat and Shore ALL in one trip. :D
Pretty psyched to get a grip on things ;)
Krispy 09-30-2003, 09:13 AM You need to read back into the thread and UNDERSTAND what has been discussed and pissed over the whole time here.
I guess thats what happens when you try riding the rail, esp. on the internet. Good luck with that.
And I will wade through your "posts" in the future, and hope none of it sticks to the bottom of my souls :)
fishaholic18 09-30-2003, 09:30 AM I Love Fishing....Boat & shore.....Don't You??????????
Krispy 09-30-2003, 09:36 AM :laughs:
Raven 09-30-2003, 09:41 AM [QUOTE]Originally posted by Goose
so what do you care what anyone else thinks[/b].
Answer : I absolutely DONT CARE! :D
i march to the beat of my own drum.
a fish is a fish -> catch'em anyway you can as long as your
not snagging them - its legally caught :cool:
Rappin Mikey 09-30-2003, 09:55 AM Can we talk about something else for a little while? This post was getting old two days ago.
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 09:58 AM That is why there are other posts or you can start a new one, eh ?
I'll stick to fishing and not responding because it is now obvoous to me that it is a very stupid agruement to begin with. Especially when a fisherman does both.
:D
Rappin Mikey 09-30-2003, 10:14 AM Actually, if you wanna start with me BW I need some good laughs. What ever you do just don't use that stupid "Seek to understand crap" on me. Your hypocritical attempts at philosophy are a big enough joke as it is. That is enough comedy for me for one day. I will go to another post. :D :D :D
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 10:20 AM You obviously are a little underdeveloped like the Krappy up in CT.
Respect what other people say if it isn't absurd. That is all I am saying.
It is people who don't try and learn that makes discussing things impossible. I learn/ you learn.
You should start to fish with Krispy there. You boys would probably have a bunch of real good bull to tell each other while you pat each other on the back for being such amazing fisherman.
Stick that in your pipe and puff on it.
I get a good feeling you are going to be real unhappy with me now.
It was most certainly my intent.
SEEK FIRST TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN BE UNDERSTOOD. AND IF YOU CAN'T DO BOTH, GO FISH WITH MIKEY. :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:
Krispy 09-30-2003, 10:30 AM :smokin:
Rappin Mikey 09-30-2003, 10:30 AM Come on BW I was joking around. I just wanted to get into the action. I heard from a bunch of people that our last little tiff was mildly entertaining. Remember "Fishing for Dummies" with the pictures? Anyway, I was just jealous of Krispy getting all of your negative attention. I'll leave ya alone now. Peace, and thanks for responding. By the way, I fish from a boat during the day, and from the beach at night and in the morning, so at least we see eye to eye there. I think there is a lot of us that do, so that is why I wrote my original post. Everybody has made there points. Many of them were dictated very well, but enough already. How about whether you fish from the shore, boat, or both, good luck in the next few months. Everybody be safe, but more importantly have fun!!! That is what it is all about.
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 10:31 AM :D
Slipknot 09-30-2003, 10:50 AM Where's Bill Nolan? Now THERE'S a potstirrer.
Krispy, slow day at work today? :)
Krispy 09-30-2003, 11:13 AM Hey Slip. anything else I can burden the fault for ya there? Unrest in the Mid-East, medi-care costs, Mass. politics? ;) :)
HUH? are you all serious???? I hope not!
I love to fish! and I fish from shore! does that mean I wont fish from a boat??? no....
hey, we all have our prefrences. (and sometimes circumstances) heck its all fishing right??? hey why dont we fight about what the best fish to catch is????...Its what you enjpy that makes it fun ...and the passion for fishing that brings us all together!
Slipknot 09-30-2003, 11:30 AM Originally posted by Krispy
Hey Slip. anything else I can burden the fault for ya there? Unrest in the Mid-East, medi-care costs, Mass. politics? ;) :)
Yes, Mass politics. Can you kick all their arses? they need a headslap. Can we talk about shore access to where the beautiful people live? I want parking near that access :D
Clammer 09-30-2003, 11:33 AM Girl ==I,m glad your feeling better:D
Krispy 09-30-2003, 11:34 AM Ok, Romney was my fault. sorry :(
BigBo 09-30-2003, 11:48 AM I think it's time to flush this one!:wid:
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 11:55 AM Yep'er
:o
GaryK2 09-30-2003, 12:22 PM soooo...anyone catchin anything?
Slipknot 09-30-2003, 12:25 PM Originally posted by GaryK2
soooo...anyone catchin anything?
Absolutely :D
Krispy, I knew it was you :smash: atleast you're man enough to admit it, :p
GaryK2 09-30-2003, 12:31 PM me too....from boat and shore. And i don't even use a fishfinder in the boat!
Krispy 09-30-2003, 12:38 PM C'mon Slip, who else other than me n' Mitt could piss off so many Mass anglers at once :p :happy: :D
Saltheart 09-30-2003, 04:56 PM I don't care what your opinions are. Just use acceptable language to express them. I don't have time to edit posts to get rid of gutter talk. if it sounds too bad to me I'm deleting the whole post. I shouldn't have to tell you this but please behave like adults.
Please review your own posts and edit out the gutter talk I may have missed.
thanks
JohnR 09-30-2003, 08:11 PM Guys - this can be debated til bloo in the face but keep it CLEAN. "Family Friendly" and all that crapols....
Zank you, Vil be heeah altza veek....
beachwalker 09-30-2003, 08:20 PM Sorry to all members.
Obviously I got a bit fired up when I was told to get a grip.
Fished 'til the tide change on Tuckernuck tonight. Current stats are 12 fish 27- 38". Lot of fun. Beach and boat. A little rough along the bars. Perfect surf and rip fishing. Via Sat link right now.
We are back out around mid night. Cooking up a nice meal of steamers, bass and beers right now :D
We have got a pretty good grip here but I will make sure I watch my mouth when I lose it in the future ;)
T.G.I.F
Thank God It's Fall ! :cool:
fishaholic18 09-30-2003, 08:30 PM Beers and steamers don't count!!:D
beachwalker 10-01-2003, 07:55 AM :D
Had another 2 doz. fish between us all after midnight.
I think the fish are starting to wake up :cool:
By the way you can't just motor up and stay on Tuckernuck. It is private and I have a friend who owns a house there so....
But the fishing around is good. Just be real careful of the rips. The one at the mouth of Smiths Point will end it all for you if your motor stalls in an outgoing tide. Class 10 rapids (is there such a thing ?) :(
MikeTLive 10-01-2003, 08:18 AM Originally posted by beachwalker
Via Sat link right now.
You talking satelite uplink or do I have too much silicon on the brain?
NilsC 10-01-2003, 08:31 AM Originally posted by beachwalker
:D
But the fishing around is good. Just be real careful of the rips. The one at the mouth of Smiths Point will end it all for you if your motor stalls in an outgoing tide. Class 10 rapids (is there such a thing ?) :(
I find up to class VI Rapid...:D :D :D
Class I
"Wild Water definition: Very relaxing."
Gentle, moving water. Very small waves requiring little or no maneuvering.
Class II
"Wild Water definition: You may get splashed." Regular waves, easy to see, may reach 3 to 4 feet in height. Avoiding rocks, river bends or other obstacles may require simple maneuvering.
Class III
"Wild Water definition: You will get wet!"
Large, continuous series or sets of waves, some in excess of 6 feet. "Holes" or "hydraulics" may be present, and can be run or avoided. Small drops, ledges or waterfalls may be present. Scouting the rapids is suggested for all but the most experienced of river persons.
Class IV
"Wild Water definition: You'll get soaked… like a 9 or 10 on the "fun scale"!
Confused and erratic waves or holes. Large obstructions need to be avoided in what are referred to as "must moves". Risk of injury if swimming without benefit of a raft! Very difficult and scouting is required.
Class V
"Wild Water definition: Adrenaline junkies only!
For most people, class V goes off the "fun" scale and enters the "kinda scary" scale! Very challenging for even the most experienced river persons. High risk of capsize or injury. Limit of navigation and scouting is essential.
Class VI
"Wild Water definition: Niagara Falls in a barrel!" Virtually non-navigable, or navigable only at particularly favorable river levels.
JohnR 10-01-2003, 08:37 AM Class X - the ones that will toss your 25' kevlar hull 30 feet to the next breaker - nothing but net....
I've seen them from the Smiths Point side, NAAHHHSSSSTYYYYYY
beachwalker 10-01-2003, 10:08 AM Class X is probably a good name. Not quite the drop of Niagara but I think we all know what the pounding would be......
John, you would want to see them from the stalled motor scenario. Envision the rips off the East side on a smoking NE'ster.
Ridiculous...........
Just the thought of it gets me worried :(
I use my earthlink wireless to get through to my Comcast page, checked my mail and then over to SB. It worked great.
Fishing was a blast. Great bunch of local boys and a lot of laughs.
They giggled even more when I told them I was giving a website a fishing report. One of em' got pissed until he realised how difficult it is to be over there and it was unlikely the world would show up. A lot of the Fly/spin charters work the island as well.
Produces some great topwater action in a lot of spots. :)
Beaches are really heating up here. A lot of boys banging lately. :smash:
Nantucket Tackle tourney this weekend. Weather looks good.
:D
beachwalker 10-01-2003, 10:11 AM John,
I meant you "wouldn't" want to see them from that vantage.
It would abandon ship time ! Ugly and Nasty is right !:eek:
Saltheart 10-01-2003, 10:17 AM The current runs so hard around Smith Point that the water forms a bank like a banked car racing track on the curves. Seriously! :)
beachwalker 10-01-2003, 10:24 AM You aren't joking Saltheart.
And to see it when there is a swell ?
Absolutely frightening ! :eek:
Last week when these storms were haunting the waters it was 20 ' and blowing 30+ up in the air !
Total "Game Over" scenario !
Billybob 10-01-2003, 03:27 PM Huh?
I've always been on the fence on whether fish feel pain or not, I just don't know.
But, I can guarantee ya none of em can count.
They just do too much stupid sh*t to be smart enough to count.
And even if they could, why would the one's who got caught from the shore be better counters?
I don't get it.
Oh, I love my boat :D
beachwalker 10-01-2003, 04:14 PM Beautiful :D
Long live boats and the beach ! :)
shore manic 10-01-2003, 10:43 PM well i just read all the posts here on our little tug of war! i've fished boat and shore and some pretty nasty spots from both. i'll boatfish any time i get asked cause i don't own one now. otherwise i'm fishing from shore. if i catch fish great if i don't then oh well!! for me it's just being on or at the water's edge that matters to me. it's my getaway from all the crap that life's thrown at me.it's my peacefull time to forget everything if only for a little while. i'm not out to be the master fisherman and couldn't possibly learn all there is to know about boat or shore fishing. all i know is i love them both and have no hard feelings toward the boater or the shore person. the only thing that matters is i fish to escape and relax!!!!
beachwalker 10-02-2003, 05:54 AM Well said, man.
That is the way I feel. Fishing is the great escape. After a tough day a work it's a great way to detach oneself from it all.
My only complaint would be that if I could work as long as I fish each day and fish as long as I work each day it would be a better balance. This work thing is taking up too much time. It is way overated ! :(
fishweewee 10-02-2003, 06:24 AM Hey GS-
It don't count if it's from a boat. :bshake: :p :hihi:
-WW
capesams 10-02-2003, 06:32 AM HEY FWW
BS....:bshake: :p :hihi:
fishweewee 10-02-2003, 06:33 AM I'm late to the pahty Steve. :hihi:
Got Stripers 10-02-2003, 07:22 PM Originally posted by fishweewee
Hey GS-
It don't count if it's from a boat. :bshake: :p :hihi:
-WW
It also doesn't count if you are from NJ or CT:)
beachwalker 10-02-2003, 07:24 PM Uh oh ? :(
GBOUTDOORS 10-03-2003, 07:13 AM Ahh I have seen the light they only count if you catch them and not someone else.:D So all my fish count because I say so is that how this works??????:smash: :smash: And others don't count because I say so????:smash: :smash: I like this game could make a good tv show for the winter months????? Lets go catch some fish that don't count and leave all this to the smarter bunch hear as I have no clue what counts now!!!!!!!!
beachwalker 10-03-2003, 07:16 AM Sometimes I don't even no how to count (let alone spel) :)
The only fish that count are the ones you catch by hand or teeth, no rods, no nets, no hand lines......:)
beachwalker 10-03-2003, 08:03 AM I gues that makes that Dude, Gollum (LOTR) the only qualified fisherman.
Preciousssssssssss.............:)
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