I have an older 17 foot Seaway that was damaged and has been sitting on the rocks in the Elizabeths for a week. I hit a rock and tore off the keel. I was not underway, I was drifting and a big swell picked up the boat and slammed it sideways against a submerged rock. I am still trying to get it ungrounded and off Nonamessett Island as the Naushon Trust wants it removed as quickly as possible.Unfortunately the keel is gone and the hull is split open along the keel and the engine has taken a bath but not sunk. It's going to be a total once ashore. This is just outside Woods Hole on Cape Cod. Any ideas on where to dispose of the hull and engine? There may be a little salvageable. The bow rail, center console and fishbox are standard items used by a lot of small boat builders and there are undoubtedly parts off the engine that may be useful.

I heard that the Bourne landfill might take the hull for a fee. Any idea where old motors go?

Sorry to hear about your miss fortune. At least no one was hurt.

Around here most people rent a dumpster and cut the boat up and have it hauled away. And usually it is hauled out at the railways for a fee and then you cut it up and put it in the dumpster.

Also if you belong to SeaTow or Boat Us it may only cost you your yearly fee

And if you have it insured there should be a clause in there for salvaging.

are you responsible legally for the salvage operation?

Seatow and Boat US do not cover this type of grounding. They only cover if you have a "soft" grounding, ie the boat is floatable and still in the water. As soon as the boat needs additional work such as adding flotation because of a breach in the hull, or where the boat got washed up high and dry on the shore, it is no longer a "soft" grounding and becomes a salvage which is not covered and is very expensive (read $1,700.00 in my case).

I have been struggling for a week to get the boat off of Nonamesett Island. I have the boat on a trailer and in my yard finally. Now at least the time pressure is off, I know the status of the boat and motor (trashed), and have a better idea of what to do with the boat. Now I need to find a small cheap dumpster.

Yes, the Coast Guard and my Insurance adjuster explained I am responsible for the salvage operation. The salvage is covered in my boat insurance, but when the boat is totaled as mine will be, the cost of the tow comes off the limit which is the insured value of the boat. The insurance company's only obligation is to pay me after I present evidence of my costs, show them the damage to the boat and after they decide what the cost of the damage to the boat will be.

Take some pics of the boat before you send it to the trash.

Some of us are crazy
:D

Very sorry to read about this Fred.
Someone asked in a thread somewhere on one of the forums about the boat grounded on the island but didn't know who's it was. Sad to hear it was yours.

The words dumpster and cheap unfortunately do not go together in the same sentance these days. However, once cut up ,it should fit in a small 5 yard can. Make some calls, Trojan, South Shore etc.

Sounds like you need to square things away with your ins. co. first before you touch the boat.

Got Sawzall?:(

maybe one of those plastic hulls next time would take that abuse, Triumph or someting like that. Schoolie Monster has one but I don't know if even those would handle that kind of drop on a rock.

I take it you and anyone on board are OK right?

Got lots of pics, both stranded on the island and awash after being towed in.

Slip,

Thanks for the condolences. Fortunately my 11 year old backed out at the last minute on this trip, and I was solo. I have been in contact with my insurance company and adjuster, and should have a settlement by the end of the week. At that point I will be disposing of the hull and motor. For the balance of the season, whats left of it, I will be anoying fish in the Canal and Sandwich beaches. Then we will see wether I go back to being a boat sissy or wether I become a sand sissy. The Canal is nice, but landing a fish there can be a life threatening experince. I've got to add golf cleats or something to the bottom of my boots if I continue to fish the Canal.

Got sawzall. Looks like a ballbusting job though.

By the way, if you knew where my boat was stranded, you now know one of my favorite fishing spots in the Elizabeths. If you can't move a fish in that cove, you are going to have a slow day no matter where you fish in the Elizabeths.

Ooh....

Coves eh?

I know where ya fish :D

I know where ya fish too. I saw that boat beached down there. Glad ya made it out okay.

yea that IS a good spot....few good fish there this year....I seen that boat there last week. Sorry to hear it was you.

FRED....so sorry to here about your boat..that wood have broken my heart...or more to the point scared to poo outta me.....but fear not.....if your your lookin for another good seaway, I have a 17'er sitting here in my yard, 70 yam on her lookin like new, she only needs a trailer an motor tune up.....$3,500.00///
seats,windsheld, walktrough,never worked....nice boats, this is my second one,,had it out last year for a short time an has been sitting here looking for a new home.

There is a regional dump down by Pinehills in Plymouth (beaver damn rd. exit I think) they charge by the pound around $0.25 lb.
Good luck, I had a 17ft Seaway too, nice boat, but it was a wet ride.
capesams $3500 is a good price, I sold my 84 boat motor trailer for $3k, but part of the deal was I get to keep a key and take it when I want.

I will have to look into the Pine Hills land fill. That was about what I was expecting to pay. I am hoping to find a way to get rid of it without cutting it up, a dump that would crush it with their Cat. This Seaway has a full liner so there would be quit a bit of work to cut it up.

Seaway 17s are wet, but so aren't most other 17's. I always felt that it could handle everything that I put it through, that it was amazingly manouverable in tight to the rocks (which may have been it's undoing) and it was small enough to launch almost anywhere.

Right now my wife is just a little freaked, so I will hold off looking for a repalcement until she settles down. She knows that I will get another boat at some point, but at the moment it is a subject to be avoided.

In the meantime I have been trying to fish the Canal and the beaches at the East end with little success. Being a Sand Sissy or a Canal Rat takes a lot more patience and persistance than being a Boat Sissy. I don't have the contacts that it takes to be as sucessful as BM and Slip.

Thank you all for the good thoughts. Stay out of that cove. There are rocks there!

post the pics of the damage if you can... i'm kinda curious...

Boat, Motor and Trailer are gone. No, I don't think I will be posting any pics. "Stupid is as stupid does" (Forrest Gump). I plan to put this one behind me and join the Canal Rats and Sand Sissys until I can find a new boat and figure out how I am going to pay for it. I am not in a hurry. There's not much I could do with it before next May anyway.

Well, you don't have to winterize it.:( :)

See, there's a silver lining in every cloud. Anyone have any experience with Triumph boats?

Don't buy one from Atlantic Boats in Wareham.

Scooliemonster has one of those.

Slip,

Too late. I've already been in touch with Atlantic to get an idea on pricing. I like being able to chase the fish when they aren't in front of me. All those times when i could see birds just or way out of my casting range did injury to my psyche. How do I find Schooliemonster to get his insight?

He posted on the Poll bloocrab put up on the main forum. PM him or post a question to him on the board.

It's not too late to buy one from someone else :D
stay away from there , he is the :devil:

I think those boats are ok, useful and kind of like an alluminuim boat as no need for much maintenence. But they don't look shiny and pretty like gelcoat, but then again it's a fishing boat not a showboat.

If you want to get exactly what you want for Christmas, get yourself a present. I jumped in again and brought a new boat home today. A 2003 Scout 185 CC with Yami 115 4 stroke with 9 hours on the meter! My wife found it! Bless that woman.
Now I have these neat new 1087, 1088, 1209 rods that cast a mile but are to big for the boat. I guess I will have to sneak down to the Canal now and then for the experience.

:kewl: She's a keeper! Wish my wife would find me presents like that.

Nice boat my friend got one last year,gives a good ride and pretty dry. good luck with it .

I loved the 17 Seaway, but it was wet wet wet, Congrats assinipi, thats a sweet ride.

The 17' Seaway had many faults. Mine had a full liner, not just a cap, so that it was heavier and more seaworthy than most. It was wet, very wet, it had poor wiring, and the finish and fit was just Ok. It was an unpretentious, solid boat with excellent handling. I was often in the smallest boat out whereever I was fishing. But I always felt safe. I fished everywhere from the Merrimack River, Boston out to the B bouy, the North River, Plymouth, Cape Cod Bay from Sandwich out to Provincetown, The outer Cape beaches and shoals from Nauset Inlet to Nantucket, all of the South Cape from Chatham to Woods Hole, the Vineyard from Wasque to Squibnocket, Nomansland, the Elizabeths and Cuttyhunk. I even ran it from Great Pond in Falmouth to Tuckernuck! I will miss that boat. It provided me with 18 years of great service. It was a boat that I was familiar and comfortable with. Given the choice, I would have contunued to fish it. The only thing that I won't miss from the Seaway was the wet ride.

But now that the Seaway is gone, I have a new baby. I hope that the Scout provides as much entertainment. Maybe I will chase Tuna this year.

I had the same boat and I remember a run back from vinyard haven to waqoit in real snot that made 4 miles seem like a trans atlantic, but I agree that boat was rock solid, and if your in the Hull area its still kickin with the origional 75hp 84 rude pushin her along.

I'll second Slip on the Wareham dealer, service with a smile maybe, as they pick your pocket for work they didn't do, didn't do right, or haven't a clue how it should be done. Expense lesson for me.

Fishsmith

I did the same run, although I was coming back from Tuckernuck. It was blowing 25 with solid 3-4' all the way from Cape Poge and 6-8' ers crossing some of the rips. We got back a little sore, tired and salty. After that 2 hour saltwater bath the boat was sparkling clean. It hadn't been so clean since the day it was new. As good as a powerwash. It took me a year or two before I went that far again. But the boat made it without any trouble. Now I am 15 years older, and a little softer. I hope my new Scout is as solid as the Seaway, and more comfortable.

This is my old Seaway, high and dry on Nonamesset Island. What you can't see is that here keel is torn away, leaving her bottom wide open.

This is my new Scout 185 CC. I hope she helps me catch as many fish as my Seaway did.

Sweet Boat Fred!
Congratulations

I hear those are quality boats, well built. Best of luck with it.

Maybe one day you'll take me with ya down the islands :D

Are you gonna be around for the plug thingy?

Bruce,

I would enjoy a trip out with you. When the season gets on us we can get together and educate some bass. I had great success with 1 oz Danny's along the South Cape this past June, with many fish actually going airborn on those things.

I have a conflict with a family party being held at my house on Saturday. If it wasn't for the fact that it wouldn't look good for the host not to be present at his own party, I would be at the plug hoe down. I had a great time last year! I was planning on showing off my quick and accurate method of making metal lips. Maybe I will get to posting a how to now that we have a decent digital camera in the house (I got a boat, my wife got a new digital camera, and 256 mb memory card, and a printer, and a card reader, and a case...). I also still owe Bud8fan a plug or two for some of his stainless. His stainless made my Danny's a success.

Fred

Nice rig! You'll enjoy that. I had a chance to visit the Scout factory two years ago. Went down for my former company to do some troubleshooting on an automated drive control. The factory is spotless. A far cry different from my old days working at Boston Whaler. They seem very well made. While I was there, one of their top engineers gave me the royal treatment with an excellent factory tour. They actually invite anyone to come and tour their facility. All boats are hand laid glass and left to cure in the molds instead of yanking them right away. That prevents any distorsion. They just seemed to be a real quality consious company.
Best of luck with it.

:D:cool:
I understand, next time maybe. We'll miss you and Chum and mrpogie.

I'll look forward to getting out sometime when your partner cannot make it, we'll slay them :happy:

I have more steel for you if you need it.

oh man
that was fixable.

:bc:

There is a lot more damage to the engine and hull than is apparent in the photo. She suffered through a Northeaster on the rocks before we were able to salvage her. Fixable yes. Almost anything is fixable. Figure $1,500 - $2,500 for the engine. All new wiring and harnesses, rebuild the carbs, a new alternater and starter. The Skeg was also pretty badly damaged while being washed around on the rocks. The hull will need the deck removed and the center stringer and keel replaced (the center stringer was part of the keel, and the lower half broke off), the bottom and stern were ground through the Gelcoat and into the glass throughout the bottom and into the plywood on the transom. There was a crack along one of the chines. The hull would have had to have been repaired and Awlgripped to get back to where she had been. $5,000. Needless to say, the insurance wouldn't cover that. If you were willing to settle for a partial repair, or willing and able to do the work yourself, for less money you could have something to motor around the harbor. That is not what I wanted. I wanted the motor that started every time no matter how far I was from home, and I wanted that slick and clean center console that I had maintained for 18 years. The person that ended up with the boat is going to patch it up and use it for a work boat around Plymouth Harbor. They have the time and skills to do all the work themselves. I am glad that she will float again rather than be ground up into a land fill.

Scout was rated #2 behind Grady for Customer Satifaction at the Ft Lauderdale boat Show this Year.