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179
01-20-2004, 11:59 AM
What is the limit for NC striped bass per person?

bloocrab
01-20-2004, 12:22 PM
I think the 3 guys on the left used Bow & Arrows, that increases the bag limit. :smash:

When certain species of fish cruise the same coastlines, the regulations should follow accordingly... with the fish, NOT ACCORDING to THE STATES!!!




If Stripers knew the laws, they'd stay up our way ALL year long. :happy:

fishweewee
01-20-2004, 12:28 PM
3 fish per angler? It's only one more than the two fish per angler limits you'll see in some places. Remember, in some places charter boats get special exemptions.

Wondering if the skipper and the mate kept some fish as well and included them in the photo. It happens sometimes...

STEVE IN MASS
01-20-2004, 12:43 PM
From MoJo's website, a link to NC size regs, I got this:

(A) Albemarle Sound Management Area: contact DMF for seasons, areas or other limits; Atlantic Ocean year-round: 2 per person per day at 28" TL minimum; Other coastal areas (excluding Inland Waters-regulations set by Wildlife Resource Commission) year-round: 3 per person per day at 18" TL minimum.

likwid
01-20-2004, 02:16 PM
i don't care about limits
but people taking cows like that is just straight out bull.

nobody needs that many fish. :af:
i don't give a damn how much of a "sportsman" you are
especially when you paid someone else to find em for ya

Slipknot
01-20-2004, 03:16 PM
We see this every winter when we aren't catching them and they are. It sucks that they limit out the boat and keep 2 for each mate and 2 for the captain also. This happens every winter. :( Atleast they don't use nets and cull the best ones like the comms were doing down there recently. They get away with giving their charters their fish and don't care what we say about it, they are determined to keep doing it just to be the rednecks that they are so they can just piss off us yankees. Reminds me of the japanese when they used to kill everything, maybe they will wake up. Stripers are on the way out again :(

fishweewee
01-20-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Reminds me of the japanese when they used to kill everything, maybe they will wake up.

But at least they got their arses kicked by Godzilla. :D

Flaptail
01-20-2004, 03:37 PM
Let's see, 18 bass averaging let's say 30 pounds each that would be around 540 pounds of Bass. In thew old days that would be a hell of a good night x $1.50 that would be, let's see, $840.00! Did over 660 pounds myself one night way back on Monomoy, does that make me a badf person?

If the laws exist where this can be done that the perpetrators are not the fishermen, it's the idiots that allow it. Are the Bass in trouble Slip? Who really knows. It's all conjecture on our part. Last year sucked, this year might be killer. It's like global warming, what with we have been experiencing this past year you couldn't prove it by me!

Couple things I do know, the best fishing I ever had was when the limit was 36' for everybody and the sports crowd kills way more that the commercials do, just sit on the dock at Rock Harbor as the boats come in at night or along the canal when that annual spectacle known as the herring season is under way. They should stop all the taking of herring now before the runs are permanently ruined just as the Menhaden fishery is now.

You want a lot of big bass? Go to 36' and stop the taking of herring both legally and illegally and stop the Menhaden boats.
Anyone poaching a herring run who gets caught should be made an example of, impound their truck, gear and fine them heavily and make it a criminal offense not a civil one. Poachers suck and anyone who does it is a piece of #^&#^&#^&#^&! They are stealing from us all for the easy taking of Bass.:af:

fishweewee
01-20-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Flaptail
Poachers suck and anyone who does it is a piece of #^&#^&#^&#^&!

I poach plugs. :bshake:

Nebe
01-20-2004, 04:06 PM
Speaking of poachers.... there was a picture just like the one above on SOL and the name of the charter CO. was Poacher Charters.... what the frig!?!?

:smash:

Raven
01-20-2004, 05:01 PM
do you see anything that suggests ocean? By the way they're dressed i have a feeling thats lake fishing although many wouldnt believe that many fish that size came out of a lake. the dock style is the give-away.....not many walk out docks like that go into the ocean. Argue the point if you like but thats just my impression. I lived down there for a year and a half and when i finally confessed that i was actually born in boston and not california i was instantly kicked off the job. They're still fighting the civil war.

fishweewee
01-20-2004, 05:03 PM
Raven,

I think those fish were caught in Albemarle Sound. That's just West of the Outer Banks barrier islands.

-WW

Raven
01-20-2004, 05:30 PM
i'm probably wrong tho.:wall: :cheers: :bsod: :peessed: :gu:

goosefish
01-20-2004, 06:15 PM
They've got to tighten the rein on pirating. I know some guys who got nailed by the green jackets. They had way over their striper limit. The fine was dinky at best. One of the guys, an infamous pirate, should have lost his commercial liscense. He didn't. Fish money to pay fine money, more fish money to pay more fine money............................................. .......................................:smash:

Backbeach Jake
01-20-2004, 06:55 PM
I hate to see pix like that. If you aren't gonna eat it, and I can't see those guys eating that much fish, why kill and keep it? Unless you're a commercial fisherman, that's a crime against nature if nothing else. It wasn't that long ago that the striper fishery was so screwed up only Bassmaster could land one with his fish-magnetic dannys:D

Slingah
01-20-2004, 08:26 PM
F*&*%$ a$$h**s
"Look at all the fish we got...uh-uh"


I hate:af: photos like that

InshoreAngler
01-20-2004, 08:33 PM
second that:af:
are they really gonna eat 18 cows??!

Slipknot
01-20-2004, 08:34 PM
Those guys do eat them all believe it or not. They are meat fishing and either freeze it or share it. Think about it, they only have so many days for a chance to fish for them down there and with bad weather , even less days, so the charters keep all they can, not every trip is like that one. Last winter a pic of a 50 sparked off a bunch of yakking back and forth over on SOL and the captain got kicked off Tim's site. That picture must be from www.customsoundcharters.com and each winter he expects the crybabies from up north to invade his site and whine about all the dead stripers.

Slipknot
01-20-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Flaptail
Let's see, 18 bass averaging let's say 30 pounds each that would be around 540 pounds of Bass. In thew old days that would be a hell of a good night x $1.50 that would be, let's see, $840.00! Did over 660 pounds myself one night way back on Monomoy, does that make me a badf person?

If the laws exist where this can be done that the perpetrators are not the fishermen, it's the idiots that allow it. Are the Bass in trouble Slip? Who really knows. It's all conjecture on our part. Last year sucked, this year might be killer. It's like global warming, what with we have been experiencing this past year you couldn't prove it by me!

Couple things I do know, the best fishing I ever had was when the limit was 36' for everybody and the sports crowd kills way more that the commercials do, just sit on the dock at Rock Harbor as the boats come in at night or along the canal when that annual spectacle known as the herring season is under way. They should stop all the taking of herring now before the runs are permanently ruined just as the Menhaden fishery is now.

You want a lot of big bass? Go to 36' and stop the taking of herring both legally and illegally and stop the Menhaden boats.
Anyone poaching a herring run who gets caught should be made an example of, impound their truck, gear and fine them heavily and make it a criminal offense not a civil one. Poachers suck and anyone who does it is a piece of #^&#^&#^&#^&! They are stealing from us all for the easy taking of Bass.:af:


That doesn't make you a bad person Flaptail :)


In my opinion, I'd say the bass are on the verge of trouble because of alot of factors, but that's just me, I have no facts to back it up so untill I have to stop fishing for them , I will continue to enjoy fishing for them just like you will :D

What's a poacher? ;)

Nebe
01-20-2004, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Eben
Speaking of poachers.... there was a picture just like the one above on SOL and the name of the charter CO. was Poacher Charters.... what the frig!?!?

:smash:

Here's (http://reelbuzz.com/fishreports/poacher/reply.asp?ID=2855&Reply=2855) the link... I dont see what all the fuss is... if you count the fish and count the guys, plus the guy taking the picture, they're not over the limit... Maybe whoever got so steamed is just jelous:rolleyes:

Mr. Sandman
01-20-2004, 09:53 PM
I guess you never saw a single MA comm fisherman unload 40 bass...that pic is nothing.

UserRemoved1
01-21-2004, 07:30 AM
Like Slip said this chit happens every winter.....It sucks but that's what they do down there :(

tlapinski
01-21-2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Flaptail
..... the best fishing I ever had was when the limit was 36' for everybody ...... damn! 36' !!!!! that would be one hell of a battle! :laughs:

l.i.fish.in.vt
01-21-2004, 08:25 AM
i see nothing wrong with that picture,if the fish will be eaten and not tossed backin. it may look like a lot of meat, but after fileting how much meat do you actually get?if you are good at fileting maybe a third of the weight.

fishweewee
01-21-2004, 08:26 AM
I know pics like these get some of you guys steamed, but come on, don't they motivate you just a little bit to go fishing right now? :confused: Hate to say it, but when I see these pics I WANNA TAKE A ROADTRIP! :laughs: Would have headed down already but Capt. Rick is already booked for January.

tlapinski
01-21-2004, 08:34 AM
these pics make me angry in the same way that the pics of the kid that caught the 60#er back in the spring did. this is what they payed there hard earned cash for for, though.

i do give credit to the capatain for being able to put his clients over some quality bass. envious? sure! i would love to have another night in the surf with bass that size commiting suicide on my plug. if you put your time in, your day will come too. as long as the bass didn't get wasted and everything is within the confines of the law, there is nothing that can be done but hope the bass that didn't get caught are a little bit smarter for the experience. :)

179
01-21-2004, 08:39 AM
Well lets hope the fish were kept for the dinner table and not just for a photo op! I myself can not understand the need to keep so many, but that's just my opinion, then again I only kept 2-fish over 30-lbs all season myself.

Slingah
01-21-2004, 08:56 AM
I guess if the limit is 2 and all the fish are accounted for then good for them. I only keep a few fish a year, but that is me.
I am steamed that they are crushing and I'm NOT!!!:laughs:
You bet WeeWee I've been jonsin for a roadtrip and this absolutely motivates me to go. Anybody heard about surf action???

Flaptail
01-21-2004, 09:09 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot my favorite target when it comes to Bass being exploited. Seals! Who was it that posted that seals eat something like 40 pounds of fish a day to survive, or some outrageous poundage? I hate seals! I say a seal pox would be a good thing for our inshore outer cape bass fishery! Seals! Yuck! Seals:rocketem:

fishweewee
01-21-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Flaptail
Oh yeah, I forgot my favorite target when it comes to Bass being exploited. Seals! Who was it that posted that seals eat something like 40 pounds of fish a day to survive, or some outrageous poundage? I hate seals! I say a seal pox would be a good thing for our inshore outer cape bass fishery! Seals! Yuck! Seals:rocketem:

Flap, some of the larger seals (like you see at Nauset) can eat up to 80 lbs. of fish in a day. :af:

Scotch Bonnet
01-21-2004, 05:30 PM
Thats only 1 more fish than the Block Island charters take every day. 5 for the captain(comm. license) + 12(6 guys with 2 fish each) = 17

Raven
01-21-2004, 08:51 PM
i did allot of research: all damn day long in fact. I read about fish mortality rates,egg size and the fecundity of bass based apon size ,the number of eggs produced by an (36 inch)8 year old female,the less fertile eggs of smaller bass......on an on until i came away with some basic concepts that would avoid the necessity of comparing all the charts, graphs and studies of disected bass heads with materials spun in a centrifuge ect ect. so that it could be passed from fisherman to fisherman on the whole atlantic seaboard by word of mouth. Also interesting was the fact that striped bass production in the south has become more profitable than hog rasing now... (bend over and squeal like a striper) :D
anyway , i still have some further editing to do.
i feel i should post it.....but sometimes the attitude is: shut up and fish....got any eels left....what are they hitting on? thats fine,
but sometimes science can be rewarding later on down the road.

goosefish
01-21-2004, 08:55 PM
Raven--I do a lot of bass biology, ecology, reading myself. I live by a marine science library, so if there's anything that you can't find--like in the fishery journals--let me know.
I'd love to read your final draft.

Flaptail
01-22-2004, 09:13 AM
Ben, that 80 pounds a day stuff really has me depressed.:eek5: :err: :peessed:

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 07:30 AM
Good luck trying to book a charter with Rick Caton.

He doesn't like yanks, apparently.

:af:

beachwalker
01-29-2004, 07:38 AM
Charter captains have made the effort to ask patrons to not take home more than one fish per or no more than they can probably eat. They fillet the fish for them and send them on there way.

Not everyone does it that way here but Capt's like Pete Kaizer, Tom M and a few others are quite aware of the impact they could have.

Now if they could only reduce the comm's bycatch issues.

Senator Kerry will be our friend here for sure !

Let's petition the hell out of him

bassmaster
01-29-2004, 09:40 AM
Any Chit Head can do that in a boat there.
Maybe the idiot is missing to many teeth and is iintimidated By Your good looks.
Rick Caton = loser

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 03:40 PM
Rick Caton is a loser.

Never had a conversation with a charter captain that starts with me asking "okay, got any available dates?" and with him ending the discussion with "stick it up your ass."

What a jerk. :af:

bassmaster
01-29-2004, 03:58 PM
maybe he is Gay and wanted to kiss your ass ben
You never know with them rednecks......................

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 03:59 PM
"U lookin' mighty cute in them waders, boy..." :hihi:

Mike P
01-29-2004, 04:00 PM
Sure he didn't say, "stick it up your ay-ess"?

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Mike P
Sure he didn't say, "stick it up your ay-ess"?

Can you believe the gall of the guy? I'm just amazed, I never said a bad thing about him until now. :rolleyes:

Mike P
01-29-2004, 04:15 PM
So, next time, fake an accent and when he books ya, send the fare in Confederate money :laughs:

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 04:16 PM
I'm so steamed at the guy and his wife for jerking me around and dealing with me in bad faith. What a waste of time. :af:

I asked him how much advance notice he needs for trips. All he tells me is he has no availability for this and that date. Okay, how 'bout telling me when you do have a good date (besides the end of the season when there are no bass around?) :rolleyes:

I guess I should have taken the hint after I left the third voice mail with no return call.

If he didn't want my business he should have just told me so outright, I would have moved on without making a fuss. :af:

Slipknot
01-29-2004, 04:23 PM
Go see what Jack just left on his message board under Feb. dates open :smash:

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 04:25 PM
Yeah, I checked his msg. board (even left a nice post) and saw some open dates and inquired. I think I might have gotten a booking - if I didn't mention I was from the New York area. :af:

Slipknot
01-29-2004, 04:25 PM
You should have known Ben :( I don't know why you bothered, the guys a #^&#^&#^&#^&.

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 04:27 PM
I'm pretty open minded person - would have been eager to drive the 10 hours down and the 10 hours back to fish with the guy. I like to fish with new charter captains, regardless of whether they keep their full limit or not. You might have noticed I refrained from bashing on the guy in last year's thread at the not-so-happy place ;) - I guess he don't like yanks b/c of that thread. Still, to e-mail me back and tell me to "stick it up my ass" (after I said thanks for nuttin) is pretty unprofessional. Speaks volumes of his character, or lack thereof.

chris L
01-29-2004, 04:33 PM
hi jack !
he dont like yanks cause we won the war . that scar still runs deap . in texas they want to know are you a yankee or a damn yankee ? a yankee comes to visit and leaves a damn yankee stays . I dealt with the crap when my brother owned a restaurant in grapevine TX .

goosefish
01-29-2004, 05:20 PM
When I use to work on the offshore boats, we'd get guys coming up from Norfolk and Newport News, mostly scallopers--and man did I hear some funny stuff on the VHS and CB radios. Confederate flag flying in the rigging. Most of the dialogue between the boats was good ol fun bashing, the way it should be. THat guy FWW seems like a pesthole.

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 06:21 PM
They went so far as to represent to me that THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE SPOTS IN JANUARY OF 2005! :af: Boy am I pissed! :af: