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chris L
01-26-2004, 05:04 PM
anyone ever been ? I am passing time looking into a river fishing trip for char , greyling and salmonoids . do you know any places to stay away from civilization ? I was looking into the kenai river ( Ive palyed the game funny man ) and anvik river south of nome .

hooked
01-26-2004, 05:38 PM
Do a search on google on "Goodnews River"

I spent the month of June '84 in this area with my Dad. It was amazing.

goosefish
01-26-2004, 06:09 PM
An alaskan smorgasbord. I can say this word a hundred times and it never feels right leaving the tongue.
Nice size trout.

MAC
01-26-2004, 10:59 PM
Nice picture:claps: Bear country huh

chris L
01-27-2004, 01:52 PM
nice picture and fish ! you shot all those fish ? dont leave camp with out one ! thats where I want to fish . a place where I share the fish with the bears and eagles only .

fishweewee
01-27-2004, 01:59 PM
Chris, I've been thinking about doing that kind of trip.

Also, would love to get a shot at a 500 lb. barndoor fluke.

MakoMike
01-27-2004, 02:06 PM
Ww,
Them big fluke have me tempted as well. But it ain't a cheap trip.

chris L
01-27-2004, 02:23 PM
ben if ya want let me know . right now its me and me and me . Im just trying to get some #s for a trip maybe next summer . or this summer if I can get the time away from my family . cant get them to let go of my pants leg !

hooked
01-27-2004, 04:35 PM
If you can go, take advantage of it and take as much time as you can. I was lucky that I got a whole month.

My trip was far from a high-end, fancy lodge experience that most destination resorts offer. My Dad was the school teacher in the local village of ~200 people, 99% Inuit. The village was "modernized" in the 1930's when gold and platinum placers were discovered but, when the yields were low, the mining industry pulled out and the village survived by sustenance fishing (welfare is the true source of income). Being a sheltered white kid from the suburbs, it was an eye-opening experience.

We set up a campsite about 8 miles upriver and would spend a week in camp then hike out for a couple days in the village before heading back up. We got into char, grayling and rainbows during the first half and king and sockeye salmon during the last half of the month. During the end of the month, it would be light for 20+ hours a day and we would fish, trap and hunt for days at a stretch without bothering to go to sleep. Outside the village, we never saw another person the whole time. We saw plenty of grizzly bears, eagles, rabbit and ptarmigan though.

Here's my first king.

hooked
01-27-2004, 04:38 PM
Here's my biggest.

chris L
01-27-2004, 04:42 PM
alright hook thats what I want solitude . Im not looking for but will probably have to settle for the resort route . Im just a poor unwanted step child . Id rather spend a month but I think my limit might be 2 weeks ( family just wont let go ) . sounds like a whole lot of fun .
thanks for the info guys
please keep it coming .

fishweewee
01-27-2004, 05:02 PM
Talked to a guide there once.

Only place in the world where they advise you to bring a .44 magnum (or beefier) revolver to fend off the bears while you are fishing.

Time to dig out "Callahan" (that's the name for my S&W model 27). :hihi:

Interesting watching the guys boat those large (500+ lb. fluke) - they have to dispatch the critter with a shotgun before bringing it over the rails. :err:

chris L
01-27-2004, 05:07 PM
maybe its time for me to bite the bullet and get a S&W model 500 . I cant carry to alaska ( maybe on a train ) .

fishweewee
01-27-2004, 05:11 PM
Chris,

Alaska will honor your CT pistol permit. No problems getting the pistol there as long as you are departing from Hartford. Don't bother bringing a handgun into NY state - you will get hosed by the stat polizei.

I love Alaska. A machine gun is considered a power tool there. :hihi:

As far as the 500 is concerned, I have heard preliminary reports from people that the hot cartridge has resulted in numerous cylinder and frame failures. :err:

chris L
01-27-2004, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by fishweewee

As far as the 500 is concerned, I have heard preliminary reports from people that the hot cartridge has resulted in numerous cylinder and frame failures. :err:

thats not good ! I havent heard any reports . flying out of hartford is still a problem No ?

fishweewee
01-27-2004, 05:53 PM
Why would flying out of Hartford be a problem?

rocketman
01-27-2004, 06:25 PM
There is a shotgun season for pike in VT, if Alaska is too far to go to shoot some fish.

MakoMike
01-27-2004, 08:05 PM
WW,
I've never had a problem flying in and out of LaGuardia with guns, both long and short.

hooked
01-28-2004, 12:18 AM
Being unarmed is not an option. You never know who's gonna drop buy for dinner...

fishweewee
01-28-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by MakoMike
WW,
I've never had a problem flying in and out of LaGuardia with guns, both long and short.

Mike, if you do not have a valid New York handgun permit (issued for whatever reason...almost always issued to NY residents exclusively), you WILL BE ARRESTED if you bring a handgun into New York state. The only exception made under NY state law for non-residents is for bona fide National Matches or intercollegiate competition.

The problem is that the airlines have no problems letting you transport them on the planes (locked, unloaded, declared, etc).

However, woe be unto you if the Port Authority Polizei catches you at the check-in counter!

-WW

MakoMike
01-28-2004, 08:24 AM
WW,
All I can tell you is what I've done. Flown in and out of LGA many times with luggage that screamed "gun case." PA cops never gave me a second look, in fact one time while I was waiting for my daughter to pick me up and things were very slow in the baggage pick up area one PA cop came over and started bull#^&#^&#^&#^&ting with me. Asked where I was coming from and I told him a hunting trip in AZ. Asked what I shot, etc. etc. and then walked away when my daughter showed up.
You do know that there is a federal law that says its o,k. to transport guns, in a locked case and unloaded as long as its legal for you to have the guns where you're coming from and where your's going to? Under that law if the NYC cops hassel you you can sue them in federal court for damages and the win will be slam dunk.

fishweewee
01-28-2004, 10:21 AM
Mike, post 9/11 the Port Authority cops are clamping down hard.

I spoke with several cops and consulted the NY state attorney general's office. If you are driving into NY State with a handgun and you are not a NY resident with a NY handgun permit, even if you are on your way to the airport, you will be arrested for criminal possession of a weapon. Long guns (rifles, shotguns, and carbines, provided they are not on NYC's proscribed list) are another story.

McClure-Volkmer (the 1986 federal law you mentioned) only covers you when you are making an UNINTERRUPTED journey (driving straight through) through non-gun-friendly jurisdictions. Making at stop at LaGuardia is not an uninterrupted trip!

-WW

Mike P
01-28-2004, 02:03 PM
Just as a follow-up. The long guns that are illegal in NY are those that meet NY's definition of an "assault weapon". It refers to weapons with a pistol grip that extends "conspicuously" beneath the works of the gun and to those that have a magazine that holds 5 or more rounds.

NY City's Administrative Code requires that all long guns be registered with NYPD if they are kept in the City. I believe (not positive) that someone with a valid hunting license can transport a long gun unloaded and in a locked carrying case within the City limits without registering the weapon.

As far as handguns go, it is illegal for anyone who is not a law enforcement or peace officer to possess a handgun anywhere in NY State, loaded or unloaded, without a valid NY handgun license. Vendors at outdoor shows have to display handguns that have their firing mechanisms disabled in order to display their wares, as an "inoperable" firearm doesn't violate the law. Possession of an unloaded handgun is a misdemeanor and you are subject to arrest even if you have a valid license from another state. Possession of a loaded handgun is a Class D felony carrying a maximum sentence of 7 years, and a mandatory 1 year sentence unless a judge finds that imprisonment would be "unduly harsh" or there are other mitigating circumstances. If you were carrying an unloaded handgun in a carrying case with ammunition contained in the same case, the law in NY would deem that a "loaded" firearm :rollem:

There are 3 types of NY handgun licenses: full carry, premises, and target/hunting. Forget about getting a full carry license anywhere in the NYC area. It's next to impossible unless you have a few thousand dollars to pay a lawyer who specializes in obtaining those permits and a year or two to wait out the court battle. Premises permits allow you to possess a handgun only on the premises where the weapon is kept. Target/hunting licenses are the easiest to obtain, and allow you to posses a handgun in your home, and to transport it unloaded to the woods or a range in a closed container. It might be possible for a non-resident to obtain a NY target/hunting handgun permit. Having a NY hunting license might be necessary. It also might help to try to obtain that license from a county that isn't adjacent to the City, as folks upstate have a slightly different view of guns ;)

MakoMike
01-28-2004, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by fishweewee
Mike, post 9/11 the Port Authority cops are clamping down hard.


McClure-Volkmer (the 1986 federal law you mentioned) only covers you when you are making an UNINTERRUPTED journey (driving straight through) through non-gun-friendly jurisdictions. Making at stop at LaGuardia is not an uninterrupted trip!

-WW

WW,
You had better go do your reserch, federal courts have held it to be an unintertupted trip even when the gun owner had to stop at a motel for the night. As far as long guns vs handguns, NYC reuires a permit for both, so I don't see how you would be any better off with rifles or shotguns. But you're right on one count, things may ahve changed post 9/11, the times that I did it were pre 9/11.

Brad S
01-29-2004, 06:56 PM
Chris L, Wwhen I flew to Alaska for my honeymoon (married an Alaska girl) in June 2001, there was no problem at all carrying my handgun and ammo along as long as it was in the hold baggage. I believe we flew on American Airlines. All I had to do was to tell the clerk at the baggage counter and have it in a locked container. They only allowed 11 pounds of ammo to go with it, no problem, thought it was curious though that they measured the ammo in pounds rather than rounds.

By the way, I took a Ruger.454 Casul. The president of Cold Steel knives had a color page not long ago in a Cold Steel knife catalog of a safari that he took in Africa and of the "dangerous seven"? that he had taken that included a HUGE rhino and bull elephant , as well as a leopard etc., all taken with a .454 Casul handgun and iron sights. Needless to say, I was impressed and figured if any handgun could drop a charging griz it'd be that one, so I bought one (about $600) :crying: . The recoil was so bad that it was uncomfortable to fire it, and you could actually feel the shock wave on your skin when you touch it off (I kid you not) but with some squishy Packmeyer Decelerator grips and some good ear plugs it was good to go.

Spent about 10 days In alaska on the Kenai peninsula, caught a "small" king salmon (about 25 lbs) and some beautiful halibut up to 60 lbs and they were delicious!! Didn't have any run ins with bears, black or griz' but I was ready. Drove my wife's truck back to R.I. (over 6,000 mi) via the Alcan highway (the only highway back) and saw tons of black bears and Bison, wild and otherwise (very dangerous and very big) but once you leave Alaska and cross into Canada it's like commie land IMO, in that the only firearm you're allowed to carry through that vast wilderness (the Yukon) is a single shot shotgun and you have to pay a $50 fee to carry that. I had to ship my Casul to a gun shop in R.I. from Alaska before we could cross the border.

Alaska was breath takingly beautiful, only 5% of it can be reached by roads, the rest can only be reached by boat or plane, and don't get me wrong, you can drive for hours and hours in any direction to get where you want to go, it is just that huge!! and where we were at you could look in any direction, at any time and see snow capped mountains in late June!, even though temps at ground level were in the 70's. IMO Alaska is one of the closest places to Heaven on Earth.

In the area where we were at (around Anchorage) you can walk around with a handgun on your hip (or in my case in a shoulder holster) even in downtown Anchorage and nobody bats an eye. The only time you need a permit is if you carry it concealed.

fishweewee
01-29-2004, 07:01 PM
.454 Casull? :laughs:

I think five rounds of that would weigh 12 lbs! :hihi:

I got rid of my Freedom Arms .454 after the first 50 rounds, couldn't afford to feed it and my arms were starting to get hairline fractures from the recoil and the local indoor range stopped letting me shoot it there. :crying: :err:

chris L
01-30-2004, 09:11 AM
nothing better than walking up to the firing line at a pistol range with my buddies .454 and when you set that sucker off every head turns and guns go silent . never been asked to leave . but I do it outdoors much better .