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fishweewee
02-04-2004, 04:02 PM
Good luck, I think. :eek:

Cubans Trying to Reach Florida in Floating Car

Wednesday, February 04, 2004



MIAMI — Two Cubans who tried to sail to Florida in a truck converted to a pontoon boat last year are making another attempt, this time piloting a seagoing 1950s-era Buick with four other adults and five children, relatives said.

Marciel Basanta Lopez (search) and Luis Grass Rodriguez (search), who were sent back to Cuba in July after they failed to reach Florida in a converted 1951 Chevrolet pickup, were at the helm of the newest vehicle-boat conversion, and had set out to sea on Monday, relatives said.

"My uncle is very brave; he is not irresponsible," Eduardo Perez Grass, a nephew of Luis Grass, said in Havana. "There is no danger to the children. The car is very safe."

The Coast Guard (search) refused on Wednesday to confirm the status of the tailfinned car or the origin of photos of it in the water that were broadcast on television Tuesday. U.S. policy prevents the disclosure of information on such cases until they are resolved, such as by sending the participants back to their home countries, Petty Officer Sandra Bartlett said.

Under U.S. immigration (search) policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are allowed to stay while those caught at sea are usually returned.

The Miami Herald said the 1959 Buick was nearly halfway to Key West by Tuesday evening. Key West is 90 miles from Havana, but it was not immediately clear where on Cuba the group had set out to sea.

The Buick's doors had been sealed to keep water out and it was powered by its original V-8 motor, said Eduardo Perez Grass, who was among those on the earlier attempt to reach the United States on the floating truck.

He said the others on board were Luis Grass' wife, Isora Hernandez, and their son Angel; Marciel Basanta and his wife, Mirlena, along with their two children; and a family he identified only as Rafael and Nidia and their two children.

Relatives in Cuba told Basanta's cousin, Kiriat Lopez, who lives in Lake Worth, that they knew the men were planning a second escape attempt.

"My cousin isn't crazy. He wants to be free," Lopez told the newspaper. "That's how crazy he is."

In the Havana neighborhood of San Miguel de Padron, Grass' sister said she was awaiting news.

"They are very brave," Valentina Grass told the Herald. "When you are so sure of what you have to do you cannot be afraid."

Last summer, the two men were joined by seven other men, two women and one small child.

The Chevy pickup they used then was kept afloat by empty 55-gallon drums attached to the bottom as pontoons. A propeller attached to the drive shaft pushed it along at about 8 mph.

After the Coast Guard intercepted them about 40 miles off Key West, the pickup was sunk to keep it from becoming a hazard to other vessels.

Everyone returned to Cuba after the modified truck voyage had since applied for permission to immigrate legally to the United States. But Luis Grass and Ariel Diego were the only two people whose requests were being considered by American consular officials here.

Luis Grass couldn't wait, his nephew said.

Although he had that alternative, Luis was desperate," Eduardo Perez Grass said. "They could still tell him 'no' and he didn't want to live in this country. Or perhaps he wouldn't be able to take his wife."

Billybob
02-04-2004, 04:21 PM
Oh great, now you've done it.
I think this is the only boat board that hasn't had a brand-bashing thread.

I can see it comin.
"My bayliner is better than your Buick"
"they shoulda put a Yammie on the pickup, I/O's suck"

Yada, Yada :rolleyes:

Mr. Sandman
02-04-2004, 04:35 PM
The problem is:

"Under U.S. immigration (search) policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are allowed to stay while those caught at sea are usually returned"

Our immigration policy sucks all around. Don't get me started on this amensty deal either.

Big Vern
02-04-2004, 05:30 PM
I have to admit..these are actually the type of people we want in this country. The ingenuity. The persistence.

fishweewee
02-04-2004, 05:47 PM
If the design ends up workin', they might have a job lined up for them if they get ashore. Specialty boat-cars. :laughs:

MakoMike
02-04-2004, 06:36 PM
I hope they make it!

PNG
02-04-2004, 07:10 PM
I've picked up Haitians & Cubans. Both desperate both very different.

The cubans (4) had made a raft from a couple of tractor inner tube tires (which had bore the made in USSR label). Their paddles made from crude lumber, they had little to no provisions. They personally were a couple days from dying (exposure, dehydration) Raft looked as if it had been hastily put together.

The Haitians, 1 group anyways, were crammed in a heavy wood open sail boat, you could smell from a 1/2 mile away. They had some food a "sponsor" who had a brief case packed with $$

I have no point here just have seen both, been to both and really dont want to go back....

Billybob
02-05-2004, 09:34 AM
Well, they got snagged.They certainly are persistant, but a Buick making 8 knots at best just ain't gonna escape the watchful eyes of the Coasties.
I figure they figure getting caught is a chance at least to plead their case?
They need a sub:p

Van
02-05-2004, 02:00 PM
No rod holders,
Nice color too,,, good camo !!!

Mr. Sandman
02-05-2004, 02:05 PM
LOL! In the 60's there was a car that was made to double as a boat. I don't think it was a saltwater and offshore capable.

The guy is clever who built it I'll give you that much. A few months back in SOUNDINGS there was a photo of a pickup at sea like that...loaded with people.

CustomMarineProducts
02-06-2004, 07:53 PM
Hey they should let the guys in for trying so hard. We take so much for granted.
My son gets upset because the micro wave takes so long! Can you imagine the conditions these people are in that they are willing to die to get out of where they are, and we get upset because postage goes up to .37!!

Bob Senior
02-08-2004, 12:30 PM
Pete:

I'm still planning on making an appointment and dragging the boat up to you for your ideas on an enclosure. The trailer wheels are still locked in the ice and the boat is still covered. Will call as soon as I can get it loose.

Bob

179
02-09-2004, 02:49 PM
Better hurry up Bob, the games begin in 6-8 weeks :)

Bob Senior
02-12-2004, 10:08 PM
I was thinking more like 3-5 weeks!!! Layers---all I need is lots of layers!!

179: Did you sell the boat?

179
02-13-2004, 09:04 AM
Bob,
Yes I did sell the 202 on the weekend of the boat show, a really nice guy from Maine came down and paid me full asking price :). The 202 should be the perfect boat for the type of fishing he does.

I have a new Scout 210 on order it should be here in 4-5 weeks, I can't wait!!! Let's hope we have a warm remainder of Feb. and a warm March.....

Bob Senior
02-16-2004, 09:35 PM
179:

Fantastic!! See you out there.

Did you see our discussion about DSC #s and a S-B.com DSC group? Whaddya think?

B-assman
02-16-2004, 09:53 PM
179: Congrats on the 210!! Sweet ride - good luck with her. Did you go with another suzi??

179
02-18-2004, 08:28 AM
Bob Senior,
My boat will have a DSC radio although I have no idea how to set it up for non emergency conversation, I guess I will have to read up on it. It does sound like a good idea as long as you can monitor your typical scan channels at the same time.

B-assman,
Thanks the 210 should be a great boat for this area :)

Bawana
02-18-2004, 12:49 PM
Did that have a bobblehead dog with brake light eyes in the back window??