Get this, I have a story about how bad things are in a similar manner as bloocrabs post about being dead over 35.

A kid at my sons' school brought his Cabelas catalog to school one day and a teacher saw the catalog opened to a page that had guns on it. The teacher SUSPENDED him for that:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: WTF:smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :af: :af:

Get a life teacher, I mean how idiotic and over-reacting is that?
It's not like he was planning on ordering a gun from the catalog or anything, he is in 7th grade and loves fishing. Apparently this teacher must have lived a very sheltered life:rolleyes: Oh the horror, a catalog with pictures of real guns and everything:rolleyes:

What do you guys think of this?

same thing would of happend in my school, pretty sad isent it.
they would have prob called the cops also.

ive been search, they called me out of class and had my open up the locker and open my backpack, before because i was talking about paintball gun on the school bus back in 6th grade, and someone '' overheard it'' and though i was planning to kill the school???

Jr Link :af: :af: :af:

wow. Thats fin nutts! Part of the reason this problem exists is because of Mass is not a pro gun state. If you go south or mid west states.....guns are what rods are over here. Wally world has them out where people can handle them...opening day of deer season some states close schools ect. ect. We are the real teachers when it comes to gun safty. I plan on introducing guns to my kids when I feel they are responable, even though some disagree but thats my call. Fast cars kill to,,, are they suspending kids for that??? I'll tell ya, I'd be outraged!

:eek: Slip, That is sad, it's a wonderful world we live in , ain't it:rolleyes: johnny"tRB"

Actually, I think there is no tolerence laws on it, even on stuff like water pistols near a school, because of the problems they are having. More than a few of the teachers are hunters and sportsmen/women but in today's climate, guns & schools are not joking matters...

Is it overreacting? Probably. But its one area (as with drugs) I don't mind they overact...

I think thats bogus and a violation of the students rights.
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I don't know John, there is a whole world of difference between a catalog with pictures of their products which happen to be guns, and an actual gun,squirt gun,toy gun, fake gun or any other actual object appearing to be a gun. If the teacher didn't happen to see the book open to a page with a rifle on it by chance then nothing would have happened. I know guns in school is a serious issue but we are talking about a magazine here. It's not like it was a dirty magazine or even a Victorias Secret catalog or something:laughs:
I think the teacher has no clue and has never even seen a gun in his entire life. Would they suspend a student for having a catalog of some sort that has pictures of knives in it? after all , knives aren't allowed in school either. I tell you, it's nuts. The world is going to hell. I should inquire about this further, I wonder how the NRA would feel about this :D

What lesson is the kid supposed to learn by being suspended from school for having a Cabelas catalog in school? He doesn't own any guns, just a catalog. He likes fishing, it's a sportsman catalog. What about all the crazy video games kids bring that have all kinds of violence in them? They don't get suspended for those things.

Tony, nothing wrong with introducing your kids to guns when they are ready, nothing wrong with that at all. My kids have been told if they are ever over a friends house and someone pulls out a weapon of any kind to show it off or play with it, that they should leave imediately or call us and we will pick them up and they should wait outside. Guns belong locked up, with the ammo locked up separate. My father belongs to a gun club and when my son is ready, we will take him target practicing also, you never know what kids may be interested in and they may be really good shots too. Not many people can shoot competitively and win on a regular basis, you never know till they try, as long as they want to try.

Slip - I agree, what I'm saying is that with weapons and drugs - those are the two areas I won't get worked up on when they overreact

I guess they can't teach history. Lots of guns there.:af:
I'm going though the same kind of stupidity with my kids school. They should try talking to the kids to find out if there is a problem before accusing and punishing. I think teachers jump the gun way to quick these days and it's turning the kids off. They should find out more info first and then deal with the real problems. By the way, this is a private school my kids go to, I thought that would elimanate most of the bogus crap... NOT!!:af:

I plan on introducing guns to my kids when I feel they are responable, even though some disagree but thats my call

Goose...as kids we knew what they were, where they were, what they did, how they did it and that they werent for us to touch until we were old enough (if we wanted too )
most people "hide" their guns from their children. Two thumbs up to you for wanting to educate them about guns!

Did somebody say guns? :love:

I grew up in a home with a gun tradition. When my brothers and I reached about 16 we were considered mature enough to use them unsupervised. No power on Earth could save us if we prooved otherwise. We were taught a few simple rules. All guns are loaded and can never be unloaded, handle them so. Don't point the gun at something that you don't want to shoot. Unless it's a target, don't shoot anything that you don't want to eat. Having said this, what I really don't understand or get is the current trend of punishing kids and adults for something they haven't done or might do. This philosophy is pure BS. Education goes both ways . The teachers could use some ,too. Suspended for a Cabela's catalog! I want my country back!

Yes John, I understand.



Originally posted by fishaholic18
They should try talking to the kids to find out if there is a problem before accusing and punishing. I think teachers jump the gun way to quick these days and it's turning the kids off. They should find out more info first and then deal with the real problems.
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ABSOLUTELY! :btu:

My son just got another detention today himself because at the beginning of science class he and another kid tapped each other on the shoulder with a ruler, so the teacher(she is new) sends both off to the office. I don't understand it myself but I think I have to have a word with this school and clear up some issues.

Wee that your black pantie pistol pouch.

we use to bring our shotguns to school, then after school go shoot grows out behind that same school..walk through down town with our guns strapped to our sides. Times sure have changed..........I think that catologe should be rolled up an be placed briskly across the back of that teachers head...what a bunch of bs.

back in the town I was in in Kansas if you drove thru the high school parking lot in the day you wouls see 30 or 40 shot guns in the back window of the pick up trucks, they let the kids shoot clay after school behind the football field every day. And this was just last year.

wee wees showing pictures now we all gonna get in twouble:(

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whats the difference between opening up an encyclopedia britanica in the library and looking at pictures of say a flintlock rifle used by Daniel Boone and opening the cabelas catalog.
absolutely none. Should we start book burning, editing too?
I say that's a complete over reaction and we have to draw the line somewhere. Now it would be a smart thought for a teacher to notice that and perhaps keep it in mind rather than ignore it
but in all reality there was nothing suggesting a criminal intent.

lastly, when you consider how many people have been killed by cigarettes compared to guns in school you would think possesion of them or being caught smoking them on a school campus would
create a similar hysteria but it doesnt even come close and that just demonstrates that people are falling victem to paranoia.

i think all high school students should all know how to shoot guns safely and they should have school field trips to do just that
supervised by off duty police officers and sportsman so that
there is a quality of dicipline established about them instead of: oh guns!
there is no such thing attitude and we never speak about them.

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OH MY GOSH! IT'S AN ASSAULT NAIL GUN! LOOKIT THE SIZE OF THAT MAG! THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW AGAINST THESE THINGS!

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These potato-launchers could be used by terrorists against us. IT'S ALL FUN AND GAMES UNTIL SOME ONE GET HURT FROM LOW-VELOCITY HIGH ELLIPTICAL ORBIT RAW COMPLEX CARBOHYDRATES!

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THIS IS SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS!

A HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINE IF I'VE EVER SEEN ONE.

WHAT ON EARTH DO ORDINARY CITIZENS NEED THIS FEEDING DEVICE FOR?

THESE SHOULD BE BANNED!

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(Sorry Jenn... I'll have to show you my "fully-automatic assault machine tampon pistol" later) :laughs:

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wee wee do those have the baby blue delay fuse on them?

Originally posted by fishweewee
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An original P-town pre-oiler! ;)

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Pffft. I hate Berettas. :yak: And that looks like a Bushmaster AR-15. No?

9 mm and m16 ... i have more pics but i dont no if i could post them, not our guns my uncles but we were at his house yesterday :)

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Now, refresh my memory... Exactly how many HUNTING GUNS have been confiscated in our schools recently?
Other than the "air" pistols and paintball guns, I can't recall Cabela's ever offering 9mm's, Saturday Nite specials, Magnums, Uzis or and machine guns.
I think that the "zero tolerance" rule is referring to the teachers level of common sense (or IQ's). Did they speak WITH the student and find out about the magazine? Did they bother to inquire where he got the book from (so they can charge that person or establishment for child endangerment or other crap like that)? I do agree that there is a conflicting approach that officials have in regards to the violence that children are allowed to be exposed to.
Here's an interesting thought....
Our children are exposed to sex, swearing and violence at such early ages, and then the same society that authorized this exposure has the audacity to turn around and start restricting access to these same experiences. If the children were not allowed exposure to most of the crap on tv these days, they would never know what they had been missing. Guns in school would be a rarity, not commonplace.
Thanks for the rant.

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OK, get this. This same spineless teacher that suspended the friend of my son has given my son Danny 2 days of detention because during lunch I guess there is supposed to be a time period where there is supposed to be no talking and another kid teased my son by taking his reading book from him and started reading it, the kid was across the table and wouldn't give it back so Danny yelled at him to give it back to him. This teacher comes over to him and asks what is going on and Dan tells him, and the teacher(who I found out is really not a teacher, just an assistant headmaster or something) tells dan that he will catch up to him later.
Ok fine, well later Dan gets a note telling him he has 2 days of AD(detention). :af: The miserable bastage doesn't even have the common sense enough to tell my son right then and there that he will be punished, he has to find out later.

Dan gets his share of being picked on for many reasons, and he is a good kid and is not mean to other kids. He goes thru alot and I try to get him to stand up for himself but it is getting him in trouble. I guess schools just take the easy way out and punish who they want to. I say it's getting rediculous and this guy is gonna hear it from me. I didn't know I sent my kid to military school:smash:

I am going to the school in the morning to find out what the hell is going on in this school.
If Dan did nothing the kid would continue to pick on him , and if he went and told a teacher, the kids would then make fun of him for tattling. Ya can't win I guess.:af: This guy is gonna hear grumpage tom, morning like he's never heard:af:

"I didn't know I sent my kid to military school"

It seems more like a prison, with the lack of real interaction between students and teachers. It's all part of a bigger problem.
The school system is being handcuffed by the state budget, so funding for schools and teacher's salaries are being cut to the bone. Fewer teachers are sticking around (remember that wonderful "teaching bonus" they offered a few years ago?) so that you have more students per teacher than they should have to handle. On top of this, they try to subsidize the lack of teachers with inexperienced interns (aka assistant principals).
I would definitely state my opinion about the detention, but be careful, for this same "professional" could label you a "problem" parent. It definitely sounds like a case of punishing the victim for being a victim.
If this escalates into a larger problem regarding their disciplinary methods, you could always complain to the principal, or even higher. Hopefully things will work out, but just remind the child that they shouldn't back down if their rights are being violated.
It may not be the easiest route, but it will go a long way in developing their self esteem knowing they stood up for what was right.

Good luck.

Massachusetts not a PRO GUN state that has to be the understatement of the century---couple of years ago guns got stollen from my house so I called police who show up and charge me with posesion of firearms cause my FID card that was Issued for Life in the 70*s was no longer valid. 4 grand later in lawyers feesI still dont understand whos life it was issued for.Now to get new one you have to go to safety couse.HELLO no one got shot in first 30 years but now have locking closet----like that would stop somebody that wanted to get to them????Kid supsended for having pic in catalog of gun you have got to be SH%^&*$#G me what did they think he was going to hit someone with catalog?I used to work with a guy whoes father was a high school principal and he had a couple of hundred knives in a collection that he had confiscated from student.As a sporting goods catalog what is thier reasoning.He cant buy them through catalog.If you want to buy illeagel one you sure arent going to need catalog to pick it out.This is unbelievable.What do they want to do burn him at the stake.

Originally posted by Slipknot


What do you guys think of this?

I love telling people my Cabelas card allows me to gain point to buy guns and bullets.:D

I use my cabelas card points to buy fireline every year, last year I had enough to get hipboots as well. :D


BTW, the incedent with my son recently may have been justified but I still don't like the way this teacher goes about his business. It seems , so he says, that he has warned my son several times to quiet down during the qiet period at the end of luch when they make announcements, anyway, he is on thin ice and better not get any more detentions.

Originally posted by Backbeach Jake
We were taught a few simple rules. All guns are loaded and can never be unloaded, handle them so. Don't point the gun at something that you don't want to shoot. Unless it's a target, don't shoot anything that you don't want to eat. Having said this.....

That's what my father told me when I was 15 and got my first shotgun. That was a long time ago, unfortunatly that gun is gone, but others have come and gone over the years. I don't hunt any more, my choice, but never interfere with anyone that does. With all the changes in the law lately, I do have some concern about having the 'ol 12 guage tucked away. I'v stayed up nights watching, but have never yet seen it sneak out on it's own and shoot anything .:D I guess that leads to, It's the people misusing the guns, not the guns that cause all the problems.

Pete

Originally posted by Slipknot
I use my cabelas card points to buy fireline every year, last year I had enough to get hipboots as well. :D


I really only by fishing stuff with mine (see my last post), use it everwhere we used to write a check, adds up fairly quickly.

Pete

the principal had it out for my kid,somehow the principal got cornered grabbed by the troat and balls and i kinda went off on him,he didnt last too long after the rest of us got down on teh school boards ass.i had to wsh my hands afterwards.dont take jack #^&#^&#^&#^& laying down,get right up theyre asses man.