Well I thought I was going to get my ORV sticker today instead I ended up driving on the highway for six hours and spending $80.00 and not even getting my permit. I have never seen that many guy all trying to get sticker. Bomba you had the right idea of camping out there, now I got to go back down Monday to see if I can get it. Did anyone else go down there today and didn't end up with there permit?

.Yea I made the trip, got turned away. I'll go back down on Wed. or Thurs....They should have some kind of writ band system for those who made the trip and did'nt get a sticker...Oh Well

Stayed over last night, up at 4:00 am, hit Dunkin Doughnuts at 5:00 am when they opened, and got to the Race at 5:30 and it was already packed.:eek: Got in line with about 125 people ahead of me, and when I left at 11:15 there was about 200 or more people in line and it was a madhouse outside the lot all the way up to rt 6. Alot of unhappy campers:crying: alot of out of staters and people who drove a long way got turned away....they shut down Race Point Rd. and were turning people away by 8:30 am. What a mess. :smash: Fishchick and I were fortunate, we got our stickers and saw alot of people we knew there.:btu: Good luck to you guys who are headed down there....all I can say is get there early!:ss: :bl:

What the hell did ya expect?:smash:

stinkin' internet stampede.
STUPID


ya, let some air outta them tires;) :laughs:

you can thank the net for it and posting of the permit crap.
If no one talked of it You would have it

People have known for quite awhile that April 10th is Race Point sticker day, so I would not say that the internet is fully to blame for it. One guy gave me the best reason I have heard yet.......the fact that the popularity in SUV's has risen so quickly, giving more people the access to the beach that they all want permits.....and most of those people will only go a very limited amount of times! Just my .02 cents.

:ss: Come on fishy....I am awaitn' for ya!:happy:

Larry,
You didn't even say bye when you were leaving...Made the mistake of getting to RP @ 5:55 am, got shuttled to the visitor's center...got sticker 303, just getting home to Newton right now.
Long night for the Rickman...12 hours in line.
BM & Habs, you guys right, next time don't believe the hype...Super Kcrazy down ther today.
Wait till the Pizza story rears its ugly head.
More to follow,
RBomba

OOps,
Me too tired,
BM and Slip.
BTW...remind me to NEVER wait in a stupid line again...
STUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Also, remind me to never listen to my stupid brother tell me that we need to get anything on the first day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to rant,
Sunburned Rick

also I'd like to add...
STUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPID.
I'm an f'in moron.
Hope I can relax a little and watch the sox.
Later,
Rick

I can't relax, am still steaming. It frost my arse that I have to drive all the way back down there now. I heard they had more guys doing traffic then working at the ranger station. That whole system they got up there is completely fudged. Sorry but I need to vent.:af: :af: :af: :af: :af:

Got there at 11:00 Sat Night . Lot was already half full , Got in Line at 5;20 am got permit at 11:oo am. It was a LITTLE COLD OUT THERE.............

Rick, sorry I missed you guys....I was looking but did not see you! Too many "sodas" last night? Fishchick and I stayed at the Sheraton in Eastham. Did you guys stay on Comm. Street like you said? We walked Commercial Street for awhile Friday afternoon. Fishchick wanted to check out some shops while the men folk checked out my arse!:bshake: What time did you leave the Race?

Habs, nice to finally meet you. Your friends speak highly of you always and it was just really nice to say hello finally. Man, ya can't beat the "Plug Ho King" BM. The guy is in constant motion always and can pull a plug out of someones ear if he desires!:uhuh:

Left at 5:00 pm...tough day.
Can't believe I missed you and Habs in line...got to the line by 8:30...they really shuffled us around after the first lot filled up.
See Ya on the Beach.
Later,
Rick

Lets make a point of getting together!:)

And Yup,
Stayed at the Cape Inn,
Many sodas for me too...
Shat stick at the Bradford until the very wee hours...
Them boys like Mikey somethin fierce.
Later,
Rick

internet hype.
i got up and 4am and after getting my coffee I was in line at 5am
hi internet:laughs:

Bassmaster you are kidding yourself! Its "just" the internet??? Please! It is on the Race Point website (internet I know, but not the internet you are talking about....chat-room/sites etc), it is on the Race Point phone answering machine, and common knowledge to anyone who buys permits annually or desires to get one knows the opening annual date for permit sales has been, for the past at least five years, April 10th!!! You just don't like so many "outsiders" in your "backyard" BM. If that is your way of thinking, you need to change it, cause it ain't your backyard. Many of the people who were there to get permits pay taxes in this state and are as entitled to go there as you or any one else. Even the out of state folks pay taxes and the Federal government foots the bills at the National Seashore.:smash:

last time I drove that beach was back in 75,,,there's better places to catch fish without all the traffic an long lines..place has turned into a freak show..soon they'll be shutin the whole place down cause of the birds.....then you'll all be pissin about that...the nss should make it foot traffic only.....besides it not your right to drive on any beach....it's only a privilege that's going to be gone very soon.

I say shut it down to foot traffic...make everybody walk and then see how crowded it is:laughs:

I'll go wherever I want, Ive been fishing the back for years.....who cares about Race Point anyway.....It's almost like boat fishing.....

Capesams< other places to fish. Where?:rolleyes:

BigFish - it's probably 80% the internet. Look at this site, we're not the biggest but for everyone that posts here (less striprman) we still have twice as many lurking throughout the day. So yea, it does have a big impact on it. Not the only, but sadly,a very large part... Another reason to discourage "Spot Talk"

Course some of the people on the other side of the bridge can't claim any exemption on it either :hihi:

JohnR, nobody here mentioned that stickers were going on sale the 10th? Plus the fact that for the first time in quite awhile they went on sale on the first day on a Saturday......there is the biggest problem, everyone took the night and stayed down there. I was there, many of the motels were booked or at the very least quite full....all SUV's in the lots.

well i just got back from RP, to say the internet is the cause is BS in my book, of the twenty or so people that i talked to in line, not one of them were internet heros like all of us who are posting, we are our own worst enemy.

If anything made it worse, it was the cell phones. There were a hundred plus guys in the lot at 5:00 pm Friday. Most were standing on the highest point or on their vehicle calling friends.

But in all truthfulness, you had to be under a rock not to know what was going to happen. Every year it gets worse. Last year they sold 300+ permits on the 10th and it was a week day.

Everyone vowed last year not to wait and to be there on the 10th.

THAT is what got me in line at 2:00 am.

It was not the internet. It was experience, common sense and the weekend opening.

it was a verry long night and day. got there at midnight fri. at 6am got truck inspected got in line 635. got sticker 250.pm long day standing on the feet but it will be worth it big fish nice to see you and bm. thank goodness it was a nice day no rain or snow see ya all on the beach

Chubs,
must've just missed you in line...got there at 5:45, into line by 8:30, sticker at 4:45.
Me and Mikey were the pizza guys by the way.
Wish we had been the beer guys, too.
Later,
Rick

Race Point is a pretty cool place to fish. I like fishing right in the "bowl" where all the sand eels are. Sand eel rake, waders, a couple spinning rods, my old 4WD. I used to fish there, to far to drive. Good luck to all who venture out there.

My sticker # is 804 this year. I was there just before 6a.m. today and didn't see Rt. 6 again until after 2:30 PM. They will be gone by Thursday afternoon. Other than the yuppie assault vehicles (SUVs) , I noticed a lot of families (Mom, Dad, and driving teens )getting a sticker. What's up wit that?

Originally posted by Backbeach Jake
(Mom, Dad, and driving teens )getting a sticker. What's up wit that?

prob getting the sticker for the same reason your getting yours...


LINK

Got me there ,Link.:D I'm exhausted and not thinkin on all 8 cyls. tonite. Was quite a day, but met a lot of really nice folk. Cold and miserable , but everyone was cheerful and pleasant. Coulda used a coffee truck tho. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Backbeach Jake
Got me there ,Link.:D I'm exhausted and not thinkin on all 8 cyls. tonite. Was quite a day, but met a lot of really nice folk. Cold and miserable , but everyone was cheerful and pleasant. Coulda used a coffee truck tho. :rolleyes:

:D i feel ya on that one

i hate U all
go home

You'd like all of us if we were paying for the guide fee, Dave.
Lot of us (like me) lived down with you for a while and moved off for some reason or another.
I'll see you at your doorstep with a BIG bucket of herring.
Just kiddin bro...
Rick

this summer when gas goes sky high and it cost an arm and a leg to drive an suv they will soon not be as popular ..The future is uncertain the end is always near .. I think the race is feeling the suv craze along with others like Duxbury .. Tar the beaches and put in traffic lights ..No tire tracks for plovers .. 50 lb. fish suc to catch ! like dragging in a tire.. thats why I don't fish there ..:rolleyes:

no herring for me

I know Dave,
It was just a joke.
Can't figure out why you're so mad about saturday, though. Seemed to me almost everybody in line was either a camper or fisherman. Didn't really see any newbies.
Later,
Rick

Rick ,Im glad You know it was a Joke.
have alot of friends come here that I cant wait to see........

see My Point is
I have My sticker for the point........

Ya with Me.......

now I rather be quiet about it and not start a stampede and I dont care what others have to say about it the net gets things going sticker crazy...
but this whats Ya number crap just adds fuel to the fire
Look what i do.....

I lay low and it costs Me doe but thats just how it is here.....
I hide and do what I have to do....
Im old school
sorry Big Fish, But im really to lazy to bust out pics of me as a kid in the 60s fishin the Cape 45
in from My house.......

so I guess My point is this along with herring spots and other stuff should be left off the boards

come here respect the locals and the sands,
Have fun and come do it again.

look stickers go on sale the 10th and the gates open the 15th
no matter what day it is.
there are a ton of lurkers , they see this and its traffic jam

Admitted, admitted.
Line was a mess...I know you're always there for help good time or bad.:D
What about next year, what if the rangers figure out how to sell 3000 permits in one day, we'll be all skunked???
Don't know where they all came from, hoping not from here.
Anyhow, see you on the sand, hopin slip gets his.
Sure he will,
Later Dave,
Rick

(Mom, Dad, and driving teens )getting a sticker.

Teen right here getting a sticker. No SUV for me.

dont Know Rick, I think If You could renew By mail it would save time and:smash:
if they just sold unlimeted maybe that would work , who knows:confused:
then they woulf have to monitor How many are out there.
Im there and in orleans 3 to 5 times a week some weekdays I only get out 3 days other its every night.
The Key is show respect and things will go fine.
and make some BubbaH's while Your at it.
fishing soon. I may go hold over fishin tomorrow or epoxy some needles
Like I say
herring runs
spots
and this sticker crap should be left of the board
I wonder If LI fish vt got His sticker????
see thats My point:(

I saw that VT got his!:btu: :ss:

Yup, rite...keep it to myself from now on.
Later bubbah,
Rick

Originally posted by BigFish
I saw that VT got his!:btu: :ss:
thats good, I seen His rig at one of the beaches But I slipped into the darkness......
Missed Him But glad He got His
he makes good plugs:D

Yeah, he generously gave me a nice needlefish and an awesome darter last summer, ran into him at the Race one day. I will be repaying the favor next time I see him there. If I get some of these plugs done!;)

got my sticker :)

:btu: :ss:

Originally posted by Krispy
got my sticker :)
im gonna peel it on You:laughs:

:smash::D

:D kidding

I ended up getting my permit this morning but the best part of the weekend was having a great bonding getaway with my son AND picking up the makings for a nice rod with a Lami 1201L from M&D!

Originally posted by Krispy
:D kidding :D

Well - I'm glad to see the net didn't burn these stickers :hihi:

Seriously, I'm medicated right now and have no valuable input on this thread...

I got my sticker today. 5 hours in line and I was in the 1st 200.

Saw lot of out-of-staters. I asked one how he heard about RP, and he said he chartered with Bassmaster Dave last year and liked it so much he called all his friends in Jersey and told them about it ( ;) kidding Dave).

--Tight Lines!

got in line at 0515 and on the road at 0900 #967 . I was in the first line outside of the tent . I saw flaptail in line but then again it would be hard to miss his stature .

So, they are not even averaging 500 per day? So much for their computer data base. It would appear it has not improved efficiency much.

Anyone get theirs late in the day? Self contained perhaps... I am trying to figure out if this mad rush is going to limit the amount of self contained vehicles on the beach this year. Anyone permit one of those? Permit number?


I would venture a guess that they have not topped #125 yet.

Hit the road

Pound sand....

The great fellowship of sportspeople sharing and enjoying the great outdoors!


Can you feel the love brothers and sisters?

:chatter :rocketem: :lm: :buds:


:splat: :love: :nailem: :whackin: :jump:

Monday, APRIL 12TH, 2004. 4 AND 3/4 HOURS IN LINE #1022 AND STIFFY GOT 1023. A YEAR AGO THE VERY DAY I GOT MINE AND WAS [ARKED 30 FEET FROM THE ORV SHACK TO BOOT. 11 PEOPLE IN LINE WITH ME. THANK YOU INTERNET, IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. THEY GOTTA START RENEWING BY MAIK THIS IS FREAKIN' RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:af:

Sounds like there are going to be a lot of civil unions up there this season.

Bassmaster as J.O.T.P. ?

:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

would be appropriate........

Just got word from a friend on the scene today. At just before seven this morning they shut off the lot and the overflow for the day even with the pouring rain. My buddy Eric just drove three hours to get there and he was turned away. Tommorow he is facing day surgery on a suspect lump on the inside of his leg so he cannot make it back. He is, to put it mildly, upset. This just ain't fair. The guy lives and breathes to fish up there and he ain't gonna be able to this year like he has in the past. This sucks even though he knows he could take my truck anytime he won't no matter how much I tell him he can. The ranger at the road block told him they are certain that tomorrow will be the last day for the permits. I blame this whole stupid mess on the internet, cell phones and the most important fact that the CCNS way of doing this is archaic. 4/10 ended up on a Saturday, on Easter weekend that had a fantastic weather report. Then the internet, cell phone frenzy and newspaper and radio stations broadcasting the news that from thier slant is always the worst.

I think it's time to for the CCNS to do one of two things. #1, issue an unlimited number of permits and regulate the number of vehicles using the beach daily when the alloted number of vehicle quota on any given day is reached stop the access for that day. #2, and this is the one I favor, have the renewals done by mail with a certain date for reply. If you don't re-register by say, 3/15 you have to go up to the station and go through the whole process again and take your chances if they stay with a limited number of permits to be issued. It's time for the MBBA and other organizations to put some pressure on the feds to re-think this process.

Just my two cents. Fire at will.:(

shut down 4x4 acess to all, but those that are over 60 or truly handicapped. just my opinion,

If they gave out #1022 to Flaptail on Monday morning, how can they sell out by Wednesday? :confused: They would have to double their output, no???

You know its not just the net, I read in OTW magazine where
"If you plan to run the beach in your 4wd, plan to get your stickers early so as not to miss out as quotas dwindle".
I don't know how many guys read that magazine, but I would think a few newbies look to the sages there for information. You cannot put blame on the internet alone.Surf fishing has changed, surf fisherman have changed and most of all the reasons they fish has changed.
The real question is how do those permits get used and by whom? Is it better to do it the way Nauset beach is run, sell a million permits and then limit the # on the beach at any given time?
I hope the NPS does not solve the problem like they have so many others with a simple closure.

Crow,

I'd be curious to see the percentage of issued stickers will be used for non-sportfishing purposes.

Don't forget - it's not just fishermen on the beach - there are other recreational users too, especially day trippers.

I agree with your #2 Steve all the way....that is exactly what I had in mind. I am done firing at people over this issue. Early bird gets the worm.:pop: :laugha:

Let me try again, I said it was one of the reasons niot the major reason. The system has to change thats all and New Yorkers aren't allowed!:D Just kidding! Anyway, there has got to be a better way, especially starting on a weekend and especially on a holiday weekend. And the reason I said that in OTW was from all the internet stuff that kept being mentioned and all the talk I would hear at shows and such. Might as well make everyone aware that there was going to be a problem. It's a systemic problem with the CCNS and the internet, cell phones, newspapers and radio stations didn't help. Come to think of it, maybe I didn't help either but I had to make people aware ahead of time that there was going to be a problem. I remember looking at the calender in January and goingn"oh, boy, April 10th is the Saturday of Easter weekend that will be trouble". I got mine but I feel sorry for the guys who drove up from NY, NJ CT etc who got screwed. It would be better for all if renewals came in the mail, especially for those guys.:chatter :rtfm: :jump1:

man i feel for you guys, that must suck not being able to fish one of favorite spots that you been fishin your whole life. i was gonna get a permit this year, but i decided not to cause i didn't know how much i'd really be able to make it out that far. besides, rhody's where all the big fish are anyways. ;)

I got shut out Monday, went up after dropping my daughter at school... too late. Until I read Flaps last post, I was thinking about going up tomorrow early AM... fagetaboutit, ain't getting up at 3AM to wait till 7, to wait till 9 or 10.... NO BEACH is worth that!
Especially, when the birds are gonna get most of it for 6-8 weeks of Prime fishing.

Did a leisure cruise back Monday AM, ya know, you drive right by some prime fishing real estate, that you do not need a sticker for. Who cares if you can't drive on it.

Flap, the MBBA is trying to get them to change their ways, but even we have issues amongst ourselves :rolleyes: as how to deal with it.
Also, they seem kind of stuck on the 3400, they don't like the Nauset system, as they would have to hire more staff, and they do not like the mail in renewals like Sandy Neck, as it is a Federal Park, and has to be first come first serve.
Hopefully, there will be some sort of resolve by next season.

FlapTail you must of seen me this morning then, I was in the same line waited 5 hours to get my sticker #1425. I was the big dumba$$ not dress for the weather. I was wearing a long sleeve green shirt and a pair of kahki's and i was completly soak. Was well worth:D :D

Aw come on Karl! You could join Slip up there tommorow AM and shoot the chit till seven. It would be great to see you on the sand up there. We could drive Manzi nutz! Or maybe nutzier! What's four hours out of a whole year?:D

I've been talking to more than a few people on this, both on the site and those in line. And before people start to say I'm taking the heat off the Internet with what I'm about to say, I think most people would agree that I'm more than willing to admit when the Internet (including this board) screws something up. The Internet is not helping with this at all but it might not be hurting as much as many think. Speaking personally for this site we were able to avoid Sticker Talk until after they went on sale. I can't speak for other sites but I didn't see it big here - fortunately not talked about like in years past. Many of the people I talked to said they had a pass before at some point and some of the new people weren't even anglers. One guy I was talking to said he drove out from Michagan Saturday but got turned around and was taking take #2. Other "stories" I heard (read them for what it is) was that one guy was there the other day getting stickers on all 4 of his cars - THAT's ludicrous if true. But it sems like a LOT more people want to get a slice of the action and the passes will simply run out in no time.

Yes, the current system is not working. What are some other suggestions to fix it? Pre-registering might be good. Online and mail registration for weekend/weekly permits. A limit of one car per household (+ one SCV if they have one of those)? A fisherman's pass? Use it or lose it regulations so someone doesn't get a season pass on the off chance they might use it? Create a Weekender pass in addition to the weekly and season pass? Just a couple thoughts.

Flap, as for you friend, I really hope he does well.

Karl, I wanna join MBBA, know any officials over there? Tell 'em I'll host the club website for free (I said host not do :) )

If your blaming cells, radio, TV, then how can one lay blame on out of staters bum-rushing the Cape for stickers. No-one drove 6 hrs on Easter w/e cause they're buddy called em. And amazingly, the Cape isnt the epicenter of New England, yer local radio and TV news dont get very far. Its prob. Capers creating their own frenzy

Originally posted by JohnR

Karl, I wanna join MBBA, know any officials over there? Tell 'em I'll host the club website for free (I said host not do :) )


John... nice offer, Thank You Sir!

When I get home, I will P.M. you the people's info you need for that... even though the newbie membership is $10, I will recommend that be waived, considering your offer!

Krispy, never mind this stuff let's talk important Chit! Most Extreme Elimination Challenge ( Now MXC) new season starts April 22nd! I was home sick last week with Bronchitis and they had a fourteen hour marathon on on Spike TV. Laughed so hard I almost choked to death and had to turn it off for awhile then turn it back on, then start laughing, coughing and choking and turn it back off. It was awesome!:D

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What is happening in regard to Race Point Sand Permits is a combination of economics, politics, and human nature.

Economically, SUV sales have skyrocketed in the US. It is no wonder that when I got a pass in the late 1990's, I didn't bother picking it up until late July, since I really only fish RP from late August on. However, 2 years ago they were gone in May, last year they were gone in 18 days, and this year they'll be gone in just 5 or 6 days. This is mapping closely to increased sales of 4WD vehicles.

Politics: Ever since 9/11, people have been looking to vacation closer to home, and places they can drive to. The Cape is such a popular destination, and Race Point for both beach goers and fishermen. So, now we have the people and the means (SUVs).

Human Nature: People value what is rare. People in the old Soviet Union stood in line for toilet paper longer than I did for my permit (5 hours). I talked to a guy registering both his RV and a truck (both annuals) to guarantee that he could get on the one week he'd planned for vacation. Another guy drove from Pennsylvania on Saturday, registered his truck, drove back to Penn, got his son's truck, drove back and registered it. People are panicking and getting stickers "JUST IN CASE" they might want to use it. This is craziness.

The problem is not the internet, the problem is not cell-phones, the problem is not someone blabbing about it to all their friends. The problem is that the world we live in is changing, and there is a huge population of people between here and Pennsylvania looking for a place like RP.

As far as solutions go, I have none. Maybe a beach-goers pass (for June to August) and a fisherman pass (for September to November). Maybe (since I've had a sticker since 1999), a seniority system, where people who have had stickers for the past 2-4 years (consistently) get first choice. Regrettably, I think what the National Seashores will try first, is to again raise the price to $150 or more. Sadly, I think this would just lead to the gentrification of Race Point.

When GAS is $4.00 a gal and permits are $250.00 Which can and Will happen, No one will CARE.....................

JHabs is right....I won't care, I still want to fish!:D

Just as well I'm not getting my sticker this year...hoofing it is good exercise.

Hoofin it is all good for your health, till ya decide to hump it from the Ranger station to the Race and half way there, the skies open up and there is lightening comin down like it is aimin' for the cow you're dragging, and its a 2+ mile hike back.
But, of course, i'll still be doing it every night this year........

wah wah wah

i need a sticker

wah wah wah

I told my father about this thread, he laughed his a** off at all of you whining about stickers and told me about hoofing race back in the 50's and 60's with my grandfather WORKING for their fish.

I stick by my guns and fish like he fishes.
I still walk Cuttyhunk when I could just run the boat around it, its just more fun to take a nice pleasant 30min to an hour hike out to the backside and huck plugs into the boulders then hoof back with a cow over my shoulder.

Great looks ya get doin that. :D

Originally posted by JayR
Pound sand....
Jay Richer I do pound........................

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Hey Karl, you got it right about the prime real estate. Was going to do the 2.5 hr ride, say at 6 on Sat. but something happened. So I asked my wife to take a ride with me after lunch. In the meantime, I called the Ranger station to see what was what. She said the days selling was closed. I thought of going down Thursday morning, but after reading todays reports, I ain't. There are alternatives like you say.

Doing a mail-in can cause problems. How far back do they go to get a mailing list? I have had a sticker for some years. Does someone like me not get on the list because I didn't get one this year? How about people who want one but have never had one before? I think the Nauset way is the best. 3200 stickers at $100 equals $ 320,000. Is that enough for them to man a station like Nauset? I wonder.

Also, how can they limit one per household? What do you say to your kids or wife? They pay Federal Taxes too. The popularity of OSV's is the cause. Like Habs said $ 4.00 gas and $ 250 stickers could do the trick. Although it would be kinda funny to see dyed-in-the-wool surfcasters driving mini suv's powered by electricty.
Hey, not a bad idea. That would erase another b*%$h by the anti's that suv's cause pollution on the beach!

nice avitar
bang Your head a few times for Me

Maloney, it stinks when working slobs here cant get one
Most of us can't camp out

Welcome to S-B.com :claps:

Glad your here....hey, no more NF?

(didja catch one, then ;) )

Trying to give the illusion.

Originally posted by Flaptail
The ranger at the road block told him they are certain that tomorrow will be the last day for the permits.

Just my two cents. Fire at will.:(

So what you are saying is that I should leave my house right now:wall: :wall: :wall:

I wish Eric well Steve. Maybe he might feel up to it on Thursday or Friday. I don't believe what that ranger told you, maybe he was trying to steer people away but I think if that kind of word gets out, it will only cause there to be another cluster$%#$% again tomorrow. How are they gonna sell more than 1200 in one day when it's hard enough to do 350 in one day?


I think Sweetwater has a pretty good summation of the whole thing.

:af:

Hey, BM. You're right about the camping out. I work Weds. night. Home at 11:30. Get up a 4 to bee line to the Race? WTF!!!! I ain't a young stud anymore. Only a wise old Bull. (at least my wife allows the delusion)

I agree, the math doesn't add up right. The recording says 500/day limit.

That single porta-poty near the ranger station must be one hell of a MESS:(

But I am having second thoughts....mayby start down anyway at a reasonable hour to visit Red Top and give the Ranger a call and get incorrect info and get pissed off and......... I called down today. Said they do 500 a day and have 1000 left. so wed and thrus end it, if true....wtf am I thinking....maybe go north and visit GOS.....

can we end this thread please?

At least it didn't get deleated.:rolleyes: :smash: johnny "tRB"

i wouldn't care if it did:wall: :wall:

JTRB....:laugha: :btu:

I agree Slip...Lets end it:smash:

Jay R go back to brown nosing Timmy we don't need you here.

hey reelchitty, i saw you down there this morning, really, i didnt mean to laugh at you :D , buth what where you thinking with just a t-shirt and dress shirt on ? It was nasty down there, thats for sure.

Sounds like a great place to fish!!!

12:23am Wed....

The Plan

Leaving Hull at 2:30am

DD & Gas at the Bridge @ 3:30

In Line @ 4:30 am

I am in a Red GMc Jimmy...say Hi if you are there

I know for a fact that today that they could only sell up to 1600 tickets today. Get there early dress warm, bring lots of coffee only to sell because you will be inline outside in the rain and cold like I was today. I think that come Friday or Saturday there will be no more stickers. Just my two cents.

In the rain outside...aquaskinz photo op

Yeah I saw one guy with his aquaskinz on and a bunch of guys with waders. So wish I had an aquaskin yesterday.

Well it is over...I got sticker 1941 at noon today...

Started to rain as soon as I got under the tent...

FY to all...At end of today they will be just short of 2100 of 3200 sold.

Guy at the counter said they will run out Friday afternoon or early sunday

that's good news for Jenn and Specialist :btu:

you got yours at noon?:confused: I was out about 10 and you were not that far behind me.

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I got mine

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As of today around 10:00 this morning they have just over 400 left. My buddy who had the day surgery stood in line with about 40 people and got his. Thank God, he is a happy guy now.

Good for your buddy Flap!:ss:

I got mine this morning as well.

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