Just got the nextel chirp with the "HA HA your working !"
100 fish morning with fish to 38" I hate life right now but I'll be there tonight ....boat fish w/ some on the flyrod. mabey today is the day it will really start to crack this weekend is gonna be SMOKIN!

Nice!!!!

I fished down there Fri and Sat night near the bridge on route six and got a few 28-30'ies.

Is there anywhere down there that is fishable by canoe? I'm not to familiar with the area.

Wee Wee River :confused:

Is that the Weweantic?

Tonight when there are so many guys there that the lures hitting the water spook everything that might have thought about eating, please send all comments to JSullivan.

We continually hear members of this board tell stories about what happens when specific spots are put out on the boards.

JSullivan, why not say something like , "I slammed em in the Wareham area this morning"

The Weweantic river is one of my favorite places.

I second Patrick's comments

PLEASE - No Burning Spots......

Basic Patrick and others, why do you care what people say about spots? Isn't that what we are here for, to share info among ourselves to enhance our fishing experience? Or is it only OK to talk about spots when it is ones own best interest among the many S-B cliques? Do you guys also call up the tackle shops and yell at the owners for telling people these "spots", and they give EXACT locations, not just a blanket statement that covers a 588 acre river.

Can someone please tell me what this site is even here for if not for info sharing and helping out a fellow fisherman? Where do I find these unwritten rules about posting on S-B. I really should find them before I mess up too:)

One more thing, BasicPatrick wrote ""JSullivan, why not say something like , "I slammed em in the Wareham area this morning"". FYI, The Weweantic river covers 588 acres of water surface, that is a very broad area no? He at least gave some of the others a chance, with a very broad area, not a SPOT.

I think you did the right thing JSullivan, there are a lot of people here on this site that need help, and more importantly hope.

What a joke…

it's a pretty large area. and hardly a secret!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there have been holdovers in cattail hole all winter and a ton af people fishin for em all year.

My point is that this site is open for ALL to view. So, mentioning specific spots (rivers, canal pole #'s, etc..) can cause some grief when fishing that area next. Meaning, all of a sudden a nice quiet, secluded spot is crowded very quickly. If you want to share a specific area with someone, just PM them.

S-journey, it's just that the internet can overrun a spot in a heartbeat. We are by no means the largest bass site around but we still get a five hunder to a thousand people watching a day, that goes up on fridays too :eek5: . With a LOT of people watching, including the many that lurk and don't actually log in and participate, its easy to over run a spot. I've SEEN it, even to the point of having someone - not a member - send me an e-mail calling me an effin liar cause the he read the fish were there the day before by a report I made and the fish were'nt there the next day.

If you want to talk specific spots and share it with a fellow member here, that's fine, just do it in a PM. Otherwise I recommend speaking very generically. It's one thing to talk methods, and a lot of great method talk happens here, and its another to talk how to read water and certain situations 'cause you can apply that all over the place, it can be disastrous to narrow things to a finer detail than the name of a town. It's sad, but that's what happens.

So where does the line need to be drawn over what's good info and what's bad? Tough call. But I can honestly say that talking detail on a spot has far more negatives than positives on the Internet. I'm just trying to be completely honest and upfront when I say that. Some mods and site owners encourage "spot talk" in detail but if come October and I say I slammed 30#ers at Balstons on Friday, there WILL be an extra 25-50 people there the next night. The other bad thing is in tough spots that can't support much traffic. If I were to openly share all my knowledge and put up a post that Spot X is giving up the fat girls, but in order to get to spot X yoou had to park on this resedential street, cut thru the white house with the flag poles yard, try not to step on the cat, walk west for 300 yards, cross along the hedges behind the gazebo and follow the path on the left for 200 yards to spot X, step on the most sw exposed rock and cast between the xxxxxx cropping and the xxxxx . You get the idea, the locals would have the cops on paid duty keeping anglers out, plus someone (me likely) would be in court for tresspassing :eek5: :doh: - just gotta find the right balance

I want to know where you fish, exactly, and I want to know now.
I'm tired of all this "secret" stuff (secret places, methods, times, tides, places to park, size of fish expected to catch ). Out with it, NOW.
If you want to keep everything "secret", unplug your computer.
OK?:mad:
Let the world know where you fish, how you fish.
Open up, let the love flow.:mad:

Originally posted by striprman
I want to know where you fish, exactly, and I want to know now.
I'm tired of all this "secret" stuff (secret places, methods, times, tides, places to park, size of fish expected to catch ). Out with it, NOW.
If you want to keep everything "secret", unplug your computer.
OK?:mad:
Let the world know where you fish, how you fish.
Open up, let the love flow.:mad:

I swear your a troll :laughs: or you went to U.C. Berkley in 68 and wear Birkenstocks on the rare occasion you have footware on :laughs:

You CAN'T have my spots. Some of my spots were given to me in confidence and some spots I fish can't handle the pressure the Internet would put on them. Besides, many wouldn't walk to them (and I'd better drop a few pounds if I plant to walk to 'em too :wall: )

Originally posted by JohnR
I swear your a troll :laughs: or you went to U.C. Berkley in 68 and wear Birkenstocks on the rare occasion you have footware on :laughs:

You CAN'T have my spots. Some of my spots were given to me in confidence and some spots I fish can't handle the pressure the Internet would put on them. Besides, many wouldn't walk to them (and I'd better drop a few pounds if I plant to walk to 'em too :wall: )
Nobody loves me:crying:

Originally posted by JohnR
October I slammed 30#ers at Balstons which day? i need to put in for my fall vacation days! :laughs:

mmmmmmmm...balstons... anyways I figure a river is a pretty blanket spot... I mean in general I said it because its a decent indicator of fish presence but whatever. there are fish everywhere
I had stops where we picked up tons of schoolies this weekend from sssshh dennis to the canal .
These are the days where people can get out and find a mess of schoolies to mabey get into their first fish ever LET EM!
Of course i guard spots but when were talkin about the bass river or the we we those are the places me AND most of the people i fish with lie and say we caught the fish that we are weighing in............ones that come from our good spots!

"where did u get him " uh bass river yeah thats it
if the we we is anyones secret spot guess what its no secret and
you are allready used to fishing with people.

We just don't want fishweewee's head getting too big, thinking the good burghers of Wareham named a river after him :laughs:

Lately, I've begun to think that everyone here needs a light dose of valium, but today, I think everyone needs a heavier dose. Must be that warm weather outside.

And I have to agree with JohnR and the rest, it really sucks when someone blurts out a specific fishing spot. I can tell you why.

A few years ago, some pompous ass from the Brockton Enterprise found a spot that me and my brother loved to fish in Onset. He reported it in the Enterprise, talking aobut how this spot gave up a few large.

Well, guess what? The following weekend, the entire shore was lined with drunken fools fishing.

This is probably why it HELPS you more to keep your spots as secret as you reasoanbly can, by using far generalities. If you have to burn a spot, do it via PM or email. Why ruin it for everyone else?

Originally posted by jsullivan
These are the days where people can get out and find a mess of schoolies to mabey get into their first fish ever LET EM!
Of course i guard spots but when were talkin about the bass river or the we we those are the places me AND most of the people i fish with lie and say we caught the fish that we are weighing in............ones that come from our good spots!

OK - I'll bite :rollem: - so it's OK for you to put up spots that aren't your honey hole (but could be someone else' spot) but when it comes time to talk about your honey hole you'll lie and go with a generic. Hmmmm. That's one reason why I personally frown on specific spot talk, most everyone wants the skinny on other people's spots.

Don't get me wrong, I'm REALLY no trying to be a hardass about this, just stating that spot talk in specifics RARELY EVER is a goo thing. Now when we get together and fish the S-B 4 Leg Tourneys, when we are face to face, you'll be suprised that we talk a lot more than what get's spoken online. But its spot talk between people, not the entire bassin' world...

if you want to freely post where, when, and how you caught fish, do it elsewhere. there are sites out there that openly encourage it. sorry if you do not like the reponse you get by posting spots here, but that is how it is. aside from trying to be a pain in the butt, why fight it? why do something you know will not be well received? you won't make many friends by pissing people off. nobdy here is trying to be a hard head about this, but if you keep things cool people will freely let you in on what is going on but they will do it because you have earned their respect and they feel you will value the knowledge. it is all part of the internet learning curve.

John R, very nicely put with your original post. I never thought about it like that.

I just always think of those poor people that never have caught a fish, trying their heart out to get a keepah.

I didnt relize how many people actualy visit this site, 500 to 1000 a day, wow. Wouldn't want to see that many people sitting on one of my honey holes.

Point well explained, and understood, thank you.

Now, everyone PM me some hotspots:)

LOL

S-journey...

I see you live on the south shore...so do I...If I met you at an MSBA meeting or two, a S-b leg, etc I would do what most do, get a feel for who you are. I meet and fish with all kinds of people and am pretty free with info in person. I also am very active in a bunch of ways and have put more than my share fo novice fishers into fish. I also fish my tail off and do the footwork. I keep logs and fish the wrong tides just to make sure. I go exploring for new spots and get skunked a bunch in that persuit. More than once I have been fishing a spot daily for a week and then a few decent fish get caught. Somone puts it on the internet and the spot gets overwhelmed, and then no one, not the guys that had been working the spot nor the guys that read about it on the net get the fish.

As far as cliques, some call em cliques, & some call em stereotypes, I choose to call em people with common intersts.

I have no desire to fish with a beer drinking bait dunker, but that does not mean that they are bad people. I have no desire to fish with an elitist fly guy, though I am a decently accomlished fly fisher myself. My point is that we all choose who we fish with by variables that can not be judged on the puter.

All I am saying is that the boards should be only a part of anyones fishing experience. Too many try and make the internet their whole experience.

Come to some of the events I mentioned above and if we get a long I would gladly share specific info with you. I think you would be suprised at the fact that more communication between members happens off the site than on, at least in my experience.

S-journey...also check your PM's

Just in case you think I am FOS;)

I'll give you a good example of what can happen when a single spot gets too much play on just one internet website.

Down here on Long Island there's a place called Tobay Beach. It's owned by the Town of Oyster Bay. For as long as I've lived here, the Town offered a night fishing permit, to park after hours in the town lot, to anyone who wanted one. They never issued more than 400 or 500 permits a year. This is a rarity in these parts, as almost every other Town on the Island restricts night parking (if they allow it at all) to residents of the Town.

Last year, there was a good run of fish and one of the local "Fishing Legends"---who also has a public access cable TV show and a radio show---started blabbing on his website about Tobay Beach and how easy it was to get a night permit. All of a sudden, people from 3 states started running to the Town Hall to get their permits. Some weren't even fishermen. They just wanted to park there after hours for whatever reason. The place also got trashed---you had guys relieving themselves in the tunnel under the causeway, garbage and dead bait left all over the place. At the end of the season, the Town fathers took inventory and saw that they had issued over 2,000 night fishing permits and the place had become a zoo. So, take three guesses what the solution was. Yup---from here on out, that permit, and some good nighttime fishing access, is restricted to residents and taxpayers of the Town.

Talking about "places"--say Montauk, the Canal or one of the bigger Cape beaches---isn't all that bad. Narrowing it down to spots---say, False Bar, Pole # xxx or Gate x---really creates problems.

:hidin: Hang in there Pal, I made the same mistake first time I posted something as well......what they are saying does make sense...it just takes a quick beating to realize.:smash:

And if it's a nightspot and it's lit up like shea stadium by coleman lights.... http://ballparks.b2services.de/images/72DELUXE.JPG
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by partsjay
what they are saying does make sense...it just takes a quick beating to realize.:smash:

Thanks - I just spit my diet coke on my desk :laughs:

theres no fish in the Weweantic anyways....

I relized a few things today thanks to you guys:

1st, Im very ignorant to the ways of the internet fisherman. I always thought this was a place to share info on spots and such, but now thanks to everyones great examples I understand why there is, and should be a fine line for sharing info on spots.

2nd, Don't piss of the natives, because they have sharp teeth:)

Thanks to all of you, I'll learn the ways:)

I learned something today to, I really beleive that I could find no company here I care to keep. c-ya say whay u like .

Vaya-condios JSullivan.....may the wind always be at your back, and may the hill always rise to meet you!:btu:

His signature said it all.

TBone.....mouth must fall in there somewhere.....:biglaugh:....wouldn't ya say? :D

Take your EGO with you......

In mho this is the best striper web site anywhere.There are more truly expert fisherman here with years of experience that are willing to share there methods and ways than anywhwere.:)

The idea of this site, from my limited experience ,is to learn from others so you can improve your knowledge and catch fish, not a substitute for putting your time in,or give you the latest hot spot to run down and have opening day crowds.

I have seen places over run ,trashed, and closed to the public because some fishing magazine did everything but give the gsp coordinates on a hot spot.Ruins it for everyone.How many times have i seen a guy with a fish on during a blitz with a cell phone on his ear at the same time,and within 15 minutes so crowded there are guys in your waders.:af:

Technology is great,but learning,exploreing and putting in your time is what makes fishing worthy of the stripers we are after.
It is a privlidge to learn from this site. Just my hmo.:)

Is it possible to have filters that ^&^%^%# < do that when a spot is mentioned.

Since all spots are known by someone it wouldn`t be hard to build them into filters would it? (i`m not a techie)

The problem seems to be when someone says a known spot is hot at a particular time/date.


Naw...never mind

Don't want to speek for the Webmaster, but as a techie myself I would say it would be doable, just add them to the list of currently filtered words.

As long as someone provides a list of the spots, it would be doable.

I'll volunter to collect them:) Kidding--

If it's that big a deal, why not tell people when they sign up about proper SB ediqute?

about If it's that big a deal, why not tell people when they sign up proper SB ediqute? [/B][/QUOTE]:eyes:

I made the mistake too:(
that is a good idea...if I knew I wouldn't have opened my trap:D

I think in the past I ran into a message board that used the exact same setup as SB does and you were unable to get into any of the forums without signing on? John, does this program allow you to set it up that way? Might get rid of alot of the lurkers!!

Bud8,

The problem there is that you could almost never get new members. I'm guessing you lurked a little before signing up as most of us did. The thing is most people don't jump in the deep end before checking the temp. The ones that do I'd just as soon
didn't;)

I hear what your saying but I dont know about the majority of members here but I was told about the site from other members while fishing and it was just a natural thing to join?


:D

I agree,

The bigger problem is the 'puter guys that just do a google search
( like me :D ) and come up with this site. It's not like the VFW or Elks ( did I leave out the Eagles) where you have members bring friends in and you get to check them out to see if they may be a good fit. I guess it could be but that might defeat the whole idea.

Originally posted by bud8fan
I think in the past I ran into a message board that used the exact same setup as SB does and you were unable to get into any of the forums without signing on? John, does this program allow you to set it up that way? Might get rid of alot of the lurkers!!

Yeh, we could, but it is a tough thing to do - not technically, but believe it or not, we really do try to keep it open. By closing it off, we might not have the next person we enjoy meeting ever sign up. We just need to find the proper balance, and that's the tough thing to do...

We need to grow but we don't want to grow fast, whenever that happens and we have one of these bursts or members, things tend to get squirelly and hopefully we can then find the balance again.

If we close it off, it becomes stagnant, if we flood it, a lot of the long time regulars get turned off (there are people that have been here for years), in the middle is that hard balance to strike...

But we DO have a good lot of people here and that makes it worth while...

I agree with you John, but it sure would keep the lurker's from fishing our "SPOTS"!!! :D

Originally posted by bud8fan
I agree with you John, but it sure would keep the lurker's from fishing our "SPOTS"!!! :D

Remember - we made the reports section visible only when logged in, so whadda people do? Put reports on the main board...

(I was kidding guys, really :laughs: )

I still have to believe it's easier not to burn your spots:smash:

On the other hand here's me and my dad 30+ years ago fishing the North river:D

I gotta tell ya the internet is a tough thing. I try when I post not to give any great specifics on spots, as I have seen in the last several weeks fishing the cape. One spot we fish every year which only used to have a handful of guys fish it for the last 8 years, well BC & I were there last Thursday fishing an evening tide and honest to god there must have been 18 - 20 guys walk in. It was totally freakin me out, I said to Bill what is there a freakin sign out at the end of the street or something??????? And this was a week day. Can't freakin believe it. Well there is another site which has about 200 logged on at a time and imagine how many lurkers??? They gave freakin directions and everything. That spot will most likely been gone forever soon. Its a real shame!!!! Remeber this isn't the only fishing site out there, Its just the BEST ONE!!!

Most people that know Bill & I, have been put on alot of places to fish and how to fish them, we have our own guide service to share our many years of knowledge with people who want to learn. But people must remember also that just because there were fish here today doesn't mean they will be there tomorrow, FISH SWIM, I had a guy come in that evening and he mite as well have stepped into my waders he was that close to me because BC & I were hooking up and nobody else was. You must also remember that just because there are fish there doesn;t mean that everybody that shows up to that spot knows proper fishing etiquette or even how to cast for that matter. SO YES BURNING SPOTS IS A BIG ISSUE!!! Newbies need to remember that some of us put in ALOT of time fishing and learning by working for the fish, not just asking where & when and then going into a nice secluded area then callen all your buddy's and telling them about it too.

If you what to know how to work a lure, rig a rod, fish different things, bait,eels, lures, ect. that is one thing. But please keep spots to broad area's not specifics. Just rememeber that we all become experienced thru time put in on the water. Those who burn spots today some day will regret it when they have no room to fish anywhere!!!!

As for the fishing, head to the cape or RI, they are everywhere, just try putting some time in!!!!!!! You will eventually hook up and you will definatly learn from the experience. This is just the beginning of the season, its just gonna get better from here on out!!! NOW GO RIP SOME LIPS and spend less time on the computor, you will definatley catch more fish that way.

:claps: Excellant post Fisherwoman :btu:

if that doesn't explain it to people who don't ubderstand, then they will never get it.


What site gave directions? PM me please, I'd like to try to end it but I realize the damage has been done.:rolleyes:

Fisherwoman - :btu::claps::btu:

Mike P - I saw this post yesterday but didn't have time to read it and thought the same thing - they went a named a spot after Ben!

Hey, JohnR, if we get together this week I'll give ya a beta version of my latest venture, the Craftco Internet SpotBlocker - 30 day free trial.

You'll never have to worry again about spot burning if someone posts anything about **** ****, ***** ***, or *** ******.

See what I mean....

Just my $0.02......there is another site that now has that policy (or at least it did last time I checked). That particular site was the FIRST one I joined and actively participated in many years agp. And in fact, I was a moderator there for awhile.

One day a few months ago, after I had cleared my cache and deleted some cookies, I went back over there to see what was up. Lo and behold, suddenly, you couldn't get into the boards unless you were logged in.

And even though it would have only taken a few keystrokes to type in my username and password, I said "WTF!", left, and haven't been back since. For some reason, and I'm not sure exactly why, it just got my goat.

So, I DON'T think that is a good idea......

Carry on.........:)

well said fisherwoman

:claps: :claps: :btu: :btu:

I agree with everyone who say "well said fisherwoman."
:D
Nils