I don't want to start a flame and I know a lot of fisherman smoke but what annoys me is when your fishing all alone late at night in a nice quite place...some fellow walks past (you hope he keeps walking), then he stops next to you and lights his cigar or pipe and the smoke is wafting your way now...WTF? I am out side trying to enjoy the outdoors and fish and this guys is smoking me out! If you smoke, MAKE SURE you don't disturb other fisherman...some like just being outisde and beathing the sea air as it is.

I asked the guy to either please put it out or move down the beach and he was pissed at me. :huh:

Who cares if he gets pissed. There's the whole beach for him to smoke.

I don't care for smoking and I make no bones about it......when I do happen to be out with my buddies that smoke I simply try to stay down wind of them! It is the single thing that I hate most on this planet!:smokin: :rocketem:

Ditto

:smokin:
quit whining if the smilys can smoke then so can anyone else on a beach . whats next? you gonna whine about bait that stinks. i thought i had heard it all :laughs: :laughs: :smokin:

:smokin: +:rocketem: =:btu:

what if?
we smoke butts, that smell like burnin' jeep tires? and sand?
:smokin:

The bait does not choose to stink.
You, however, have chosen to smoke.
I cannot chose to inhale.:af:

Tell you what, you can smoke all you want so long as you dont exhale.

:yak::smokin::liquify:

:smokin: + :gorez: = :jump:

:smokin:

Oops, I'm sorry ladies.....

Never being a smoker ever, I just don't get the attraction or the enjoyment one gets from them.
Considering the known health damage they do to smokers and the rediculous cost (what do the cost now $4-5 a pack ? )
Knowing that most likely a smoker WILL die from lung cancer, and still smokes, just boggles my mind:smash:
The only thing I can figure on the smell, is that their sense of smell is loss from smoking and that just don't know how bad they stink !!!! BUT YOU REAK !!!!!!!!!:humpty:
Raider Ron

I don't think it's any of your business whether someone is smoking or not. This is a free country. If you are offended , that's your problem. I smoke and love to smoke and will continue to smoke wherever I choose to . In the open air of a beach, it's none of your business

I smoked 3 packs a day for 25 years, until about 8 years ago. I just got fed up with hacking in the morning and making sure that I had enough smokes to last whatever. A pack would last the drive from Rt. 117 down I-495 to N. Truro. I had to make sure that I had enough. The day came that I realized the tobacco companies were an international drug cartel and the US Government was a full partner, what with the tax income and subsidies. The tobacco companies added chemicals to increase the addictivity of their produce, making sure that their "customers" were loyal for their shortened lives. They were willing to kill me for my pocket change! I also got tired of the can I or can't I smoke here BS. I fired their butts:rolleyes: ! Having said all this, I don't understand defending your future murderer.

I got no beef w/ any one who smokes. I have lots of friend's who smoke. My Dad smokes a pipe.

I've been down wind plenty of times of smokers. I've fished small charter's (5 people) with two smokers before - I stayed up wind of them.

Now the only place these people can't smoke is inside my house. :D

Other than that, light up and puff away.

Now I rather smell smoke than some of the perfumes that some ladies wear, or the cologne men wear ! :p

Smoked for years 3 packs plus per day. Gave it up April 18th 1985 at 11:30 am one of the best days of my life. You want to smoke thats fine with me. You want to be rude and treat your fellow fisherman to smoke in the face thats just selfish and childish and that is evident in some of your answers to this post. It would be just as easy to move to the down wind side if you came after him but NO its your right to puff and make him smoke TOO. I find it hard to see the additudes of so many going the way of the hell with you and all for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have fished with many that still smoke but are mindfull of the fact that others around them don't and ask if you mind or move off as to not ruin MY time in the out doors. So you can say all you want thats its YOUR right and I will agree with you till YOU take away MY right to enjoy the out doors and fishing the way I like it.(with out smoke) Its not about smoking to me its about just being out and out rude about it.

I agree with Raider Ron and GBOutdoors 100%....could not have said it better myself.....to re-cap....you have a right to smoke and I have the right not to.......:happy:

I only smoke when I fish. :hihi: :smokin:

I only smoke when I am engulfed in flames!:af: :D

People who smoke in such a way that their smoke bothers someone else , are inconsiderate. Its certainly more annoying indoors that out but even outdoors , cigarette smoke can be very uncomfortable for non smokers if the smokers are very close to them. Smokers should be aware of this. If the smoker was at the spot first , the nonsmoker should move on. If they move in on you , they are being inconsiderate. Most , if they know smoke is bothering someone , will leave some space between themselves and the non smokers. Some people , couldn't care less who they bother with their smoke. I could never understand this lack of condideration and assume its do to their addiction to nicotene. I'm sure that for some people , they just don't care about other people at all under any circumstances so when they smoke , its more of the same. These people should be avoided.

I rather be next to someone smoking then some sh*# faced meathead trying to hook everybody and getting more obnoxious by the mouthfull.Everybodies gonna die of something .Unless the guys chasing you up and down the beach trying to stick the cigerette-cigar or pipe in your mouth how could he possible be bothering anyone else.It also helps keep to no seeums(nats) away.Seems they dont like smoke either

I smoke.....but I would NEVER think of lighting up in someone's automobile or house unless they were also smokers and it was obvious that they don't mind.

On a person's boat, I would not smoke if they said I couldn't, though I wouldn't be exactly happy about it, but would comply with their wishes.

Out on the beach, you would have to be AWFUL damn close to your fellow fisherman for it to be an issue.....if you're THAT close to me, one of us better move along, cause there will be other issues besides the secondhand smoke......;)

I am guessing Bawana is a smoker!:think: :tm:

Ya off and on I thought you were going to try the rod Smitty did for you how was it or havent you left yet??

Going Saturday......I will be briging it with me.:D

Bawana....smokem' if ya got em'!:smokin: ;)

Smoking Room


I walked into the room and I started to choke
Because everyone in there was enjoying a smoke
Now to wreck my own health, I did not deserve
But before I walked out, I stopped to observe

In the front of the room sat a fairly young fellow
His smile was wide but his teeth were all yellow

A middle aged woman sat in the back of the room
with cancer, her life had a forecast of doom

The old man in the middle would cough and he'd hack
But still he smoke pack after pack

These people were addicted, that I realized
Then I had to leave quickly because the smoke burned my eyes
As I closed the door behind me to breathe some fresher air
It dawned on me that room of people really didn't care

About yellow teeth or cancer or all the rest of it
Because if they did, it seems to me, they would find a way to QUIT!

Wow, when people start complaining about smoking outside that is just plain ridiculous.

Maybe you should stay inside? We can't smoke there--

Originally posted by S-Journey
Wow, when people start complaining about smoking outside that is just plain ridiculous.

Maybe you should stay inside? We can't smoke there--

S-Journey, obviously you're one of many inconsiderate smokers out there? We don't begrudge you your right to smoke, but when your right infringes upon another, your rights end there.

Besides, if you need to smoke, don't do it in a way that you're blowing or wafting smoke into the faces of others.

I'm sure you wouldn't like it if some dumbbass fisherman came right up next to you and tossed a line, and tangled you up something nice.

Go figure.

I am so anti-smoking that I get disturbed when the driver of the CAR in front of me is smoking and his stink is wafting into my truck! :af: :af: :af:

S-Journey....put that out......it is bothering me you inconsiderate you know what!;) :D

Jugstah, obviously you're one of many inconsiderate non-smokers out there? I don’t want to start another problem here, but I always speak my mind so here it is.

This was your quote "Who cares if he gets pissed. There's the whole beach for him to smoke." Well I feel the same way, if you don't like it then it’s you that should take the hike. If I was outside, and was smoking, and YOU didn't like it then YOU move, that’s how I feel and it will not change.

Now, if someone came over nicely and explained their situation in a civil manner, maybe I would accommodate. I realize that some people get sick and are allergic to smoke, or have asthma and such. In those cases I would extinguish or move. If someone was fishing next to me and just didn't like the smoke, well hopefully they have the walking shoes on. It all depends on how I was approached, and how the fishing was.

I try to be as considerate to non-smoker as possible, but there should be give and take on both sides. Don’t expect someone to put out their smoke because you don’t like the smell, start walking.

--

>> I'm sure you wouldn't like it if some dumbbass fisherman came right up next to you and tossed a line, and tangled you up something nice.

No, I wouldn’t, but that’s a different subject all together. There are ways to deal with that in a civil manner as well. If that doesn’t work, I can tell you who would be taking the walk, and it wouldn’t be me.

I fished last week with S-Journey and he does happen to be a very considerate, smoking fisherman.....my other buddy Slingah also is a smoker and he knows how much I hate smoke, however, he is always very considerate and when we are fishing together on the beach, and we take a break to chit-chat.....Slingah will light up and I simply stay down wind of him......it is no big deal. Its just a matter of common courtesy.:D

Can't we all just.......get along?:rolleyes:

You're reading way too much into it, or between the lines.

Again, note that I said something about blowing smoke into other people's face.

And I'm not getting worked up, BigFish. Just stating the facts.

Smoking wars, Part one:smash:

How I wish for the days of old, oh how I wish. Take me away to a time when men were men, and smoke was something done to more than just fish:D

OOOOpppss....didn't say you were getting worked up.:D

:laughs:

Anyway, I'm glad no one's thrown a hernia over this.

good thing I only smoke crack !

is this the right band wagon ?

Originally posted by chris L
good thing I only smoke crack !

is this the right band wagon ?

Nope, go to www.ghetto-fishing.com

:laughs:

watch out who you direct to the ghetto ! Some of us African Americans dont like being told to go to the Ghetto ! I grew up there and was able to financially get out .

Chris, LOL

Nothing better than a friendly afternoon debate:-)

Originally posted by chris L
watch out who you direct to the ghetto ! Some of us African Americans dont like being told to go to the Ghetto ! I grew up there and was able to financially get out .

LMFAO...

I feel it is up to the smoker to move away if his smoke is in MY face and I was there first. But then again I think most smokers I would be near would be GOOD enough not to be so rude as to force thier smoke on someone else as some here would do so they say. Just saw a news flash about 40 miles of beaches in Calf. that are now smoke FREE. Watch out who you are blowing that smoke on or we could be next and that I would not want to see because unlike some smokers here I would not want to see them pushed off the beach even though they say they don't give a rats a## if there smoke bothers me.

Originally posted by spinncognito
I am so anti-smoking that I get disturbed when the driver of the CAR in front of me is smoking and his stink is wafting into my truck! :af: :af: :af:
I thought that I was the only one who could smell that! My wife thinks I'm nuts.

what's next? no farting unless you are downwind?
gimme a break:crying: :hs:

>> I feel it is up to the smoker to move away if his smoke is in MY face and I was there first.

And so do I.

What would you concider a resonable distance away for someone to smoke?

THEY could ban smoking on every beach in america but i will still smoke there. i wont put it in your face but if i feel like smoking and you are 15' away from me im gonna:smokin:. if you gonna cry about smoking outside then dont buy a damn thing from anyone who has a factory which expels there exhaust better yet dont drive your car cause the smell of burning gasoline makes me sick and i dont like Old Spice so if you use that dont stand next to me. and oh yeah im not too fond of DR. Scholes foot inserts, i can smell them a mile away so if ya got them on i would rather you find a new spot than this one which you may have traveled quite a while to get too. tough cookies to you non-smokers(chocolate chip cookies( let me guess you dont like the smell of cookies either):laughs: :laughs: :laughs:
get a life whiners and be glad you its not twenty tears ago cause you would be :laughs: at in a bar /resturaunt and told to go to :devil2:
hey do me a favor and call "HELP ME HANK"
you all know her she is the woman solving the worlds problems on ch. 7 helping people thru devasting times like this( somebodys cigar stinks) she is perfect for ya:laughs: :
oh yeah :bshake: :smokin:

i got no beef with people who are smokers. where i cam from, i grew up with heavy smokers in my community. i got used to it. one thing i dont like is a stupid prick who blows his or her smoke at my face just to tee me off. it shows how cockey you are. i respect smoker. but if it is excessive, i fan it down a little with my hand to myself or move a few feet away. no biggie. i cant help or control smokers. they are smokers. if they are smoking cracks or weeds, then i will have to do something about it.

Originally posted by blackeye
what's next? no farting unless you are downwind?
gimme a break:crying: :hs:


If only smokers were as polite as Notaro !

The other day one my boat he gave me fair warning (more like asked for permission) to pass gas!!!:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:
Sorry for mentioning that Joe !!!:hihi:
Raider Ron

Look out Ron....I don't ask permission for that I just accept responsibility after the fact!:laugha: :bshake:

MODERATOR: Please delete this thread.

I am sorry I posted it.

Originally posted by Raider Ron
If only smokers were as polite as Notaro !

The other day one my boat he gave me fair warning (more like asked for permission) to pass gas!!!:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:
Sorry for mentioning that Joe !!!:hihi:
Raider Ron

no problem. ;) :D :laughs:

Gilligan, do you fish at night? How many spare tires do you carry?
F*** with the wrong guy on the wrong night, you may pay for that attitude. You sound like a Tough Guy, but you never know...you may find out the hard way that it's best to be considerate.

im considerate enough that i dont smoke in crowds or places where children are close by but on a beach in early spring with not many people around it shouldnt be a problem. by no means am i a tough guy i just think people could find better things to do than complain about anything they can think of. now that i think about it im complaining about people complaining so whatever. i go thru more tires than i can count driving over nails on jobsites so if that happens i probably wouldnt even think twice about it. i dont f*** with anyone who dont provoke it. i never have and i have no plans to in the near future but if someone says something i dont agree with im gonna speak my mind. kinda like you just did :)

stogies for bug season
keeps em away. :D

why else do ya think all the old timer lobstermen all conveine at the end of a pier in the early evening to talk about life? :laughs:

One interesting point I read is the comment someone made about how smokers lose their sensitivity to the cigarette smell. I think that's true. I think the avergae smoker would be very surprised at what distance a non smoker can smell the smoke. I think realistically , 15 or 20 feet is a fair distance for a smoker to give someone for relief. There are days when the air is very still that even that you can smell it strongly But in general , if people leave about 20 feet , that's reasonable.


I also don't think that smokers understandf that cigarette smoke doesn't just smell. For me it makes my nose run , my sinuses swell up , and since my heart attack , I actually get a tight chest in a place with lots of smoke. I've had to stop going to many places I once enjoyed in favor of more smoke free places.

Anyway , the point is is not just sticking our noses into other peoples business or trying to take away anyones right to smoke. Cigarette smoke really bothers some people , far more than just the smell.

What the heck was GBOUTDOORS talking about?....

He's always blowin smoke!... and out of respect for everyone else here on the board... I won't tell you where he's blowin it!...

:p

Im allergic to peanuts, please STOP eating Snickers bars in public where I can smell it... Carry on :smash:

cheddar cheese crackers loaded with orange dye...quit eating those damn smelly things too.... ohh thats sooo gross.

Smoke Free state on the 5th of July....:happy: :bounce: :claps: :jump: ...yeah baby, no more smoking in bars and restaurants at all! Woohoooooo!:D

Originally posted by BigFish
Smoke Free state on the 5th of July....:happy: :bounce: :claps: :jump: ...yeah baby, no more smoking in bars and restaurants at all! Woohoooooo!:D

Until the week of July 26th-28th. Did you hear what they are doing durring the DNC around the Fleet center? They are going to allow smoking in all restauraunts and bars in the area, even though smoking has been banned in Boston for some time.

Unbelivable...

Typical F-in politicians.....whats good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander. They are all no good!!!:af:

Originally posted by BigFish
Typical F-in politicians.....whats good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander. They are all no good!!!:af:

My feelings exactly....

im working for senator moore. he is the one who signed a bill that banned smoking in the workplace environment. you can give me your objection to him... oh btw, iwas there when he and govt. rommey signed the bill together...

I can name atleast 3 bars in Boston that have gone belly up since the smoking ban.

Coincidence?
I think not.

nah, but it is a start for the cancer society.

The thing is, and I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet, is what does everyone do with their butts? I don't smoke and don't care if you do but I don't want to see butts floating in the water or littering the beach.

Solution-dip or chew!!!

I stick my filters back in the pack if I'm on the beach/rocks/a boat.

Yeak, I love when I am at the beach fishing, especially when I am with my kids and all the butts are all over the beach.....just like being in a giant ashtray!!!!!!!!!:af: Yeah, I love that!!!!!:af:

Not only that, but there are more arsenic in a cigarette butt than was found in a year's supply of grapes that got banned by the gov't.. go figure...