View Full Version : Striper slaying to start Sunday in Mass
S-Journey 07-07-2004, 03:33 PM Commercial season starts Sunday and there will be a major A-- whooping put on those precious little fish you are looking for in Mass waters, 1,141,517 million pounds to be exact. Say the average weight of a commercial fish is 25#'s that means approx 45660 stripers in MA will die in the next couple of weeks.
Not sure how many people here fish commercial, but this year I will be taking my 30 fish a day.
Now, how do you all feel about that--
jsullivan 07-07-2004, 03:41 PM I'm in and so will I....... that pays for some gas gear and odds and ends It's my first shot at it with my buddy who had never pulled a permit before but what the hell go fishin' and make some coin why not? put some money aside for tuna season and the tons of fuel consumed..... as long as nobody abuses it thats why we buy permits right
Krispy 07-07-2004, 03:47 PM pfffft, whatever :rolleyes: :yawn:
amatuer trollers :smash:
chris L 07-07-2004, 03:50 PM and your point is ?
cause I dont care !
Krispy 07-07-2004, 03:54 PM ya can buy yourself a bigger set of outriggers with your 30 fish a day, cuz yours aint working :laughs:
RIROCKHOUND 07-07-2004, 03:56 PM Trolling trolling trolling get them comments rolling.....
Come on S-J, give it a rest... who cares if you're commercial or not, I've sold some in the past, to each his own...
"Commercial season starts Sunday and there will be a major A-- whooping put on those precious little fish you are looking for in Mass waters, "
"Now, how do you all feel about that--"
Give me a break
:smash:
afterhours 07-07-2004, 04:19 PM until stripers are declared a game fish, this will go on up and down the coast. not begrudging anybody, a lot of us were commercial at one time or another.
Flaptail 07-07-2004, 04:54 PM I know I shouldn't get into this but I can't resist. OK SJ, riddle me this, how many bass died this week from harvest by "sportfishermen"? How many since May 1st? How many will be taken all season long? Junk science on SF's part. :smash: :rolleyes: :smokin:
RockLobsta 07-07-2004, 07:49 PM and your point would be??:confused: :confused:
nevermind......
BigMike 07-07-2004, 08:46 PM I'm waiting for a point on this one too
Flaptail 07-07-2004, 09:07 PM The point is my esteemed fellow bassers that there is no point. This is whats widely known as a circle talk. You are very astute indeed to see the pointless posting of this "issue".:laughs:
DRMatus 07-07-2004, 09:23 PM On this issue you really can be a conservationist and a rod and reel commercial. If you don't help meet the quota somebody else will. Either way, it will be met.
bassmaster 07-07-2004, 10:34 PM let some one else. frig that..................
Yep and by Tuesday it will be down to a buck something a pound yipee
:rolleyes:
RIROCKHOUND 07-08-2004, 09:15 AM I'll edit mine myself... it/he aint worth it
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 09:30 AM Originally posted by RIROCKHOUND
So because you're pissed at the whole process you're going to participate??? Now I'm really lost... when I dont like something, generally I dont do it... but maybe thats me...
I've had enough and don't give a chit anymore. Between the government, stupid non-fish knowing scientists, Fisheries and wildlife clowns and poachers the fish don't stand a chance over time. Yes, there are a ton of stripers out there now, but nobody seems to give two chits if my children or your children have a chance to catch them. Myself and others have seen this happen with many species of fish that used to frequent our waters. The scientists tell the DMF what they think should be done and they end up f'ing up ten other species in the process.
I'm also sick and tired of gready people kill the fish that I throw back. My thoughs are that somebody is going to get em, might as well be me and my family.
If you can't beat em, join em--
chris L 07-08-2004, 09:52 AM Sorry Chris - sentiment understood but Family Site and all :hihi: -JR
RIROCKHOUND 07-08-2004, 09:52 AM I'll clean my comments myself... this isn't worth it...
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 09:53 AM Originally posted by chris L
I love you S-Journey !!!!!!
Ditto
chris L 07-08-2004, 09:54 AM Sorry Chris - sentiment understood but Family Site and all :hihi: -JR
BigFish 07-08-2004, 09:54 AM :happy:
BigFish 07-08-2004, 09:59 AM I think you guys should take this pissing contest off the site before you both get banned.......I know at this point you probably don't care, but nobody here really wants to see this kind of blatant language! I am here to tell you that I don't want to see it so knock it off and have a little class!:af:
likwid 07-08-2004, 10:03 AM Originally posted by S-Journey
Commercial season starts Sunday and there will be a major A-- whooping put on those precious little fish you are looking for in Mass waters, 1,141,517 million pounds to be exact. Say the average weight of a commercial fish is 25#'s that means approx 45660 stripers in MA will die in the next couple of weeks.
Not sure how many people here fish commercial, but this year I will be taking my 30 fish a day.
Now, how do you all feel about that--
If this isn't a troll, then I don't know what one is.
You were obviously trying to tick off the sport guys and you seem to have done a good job at it.
What did you accomplish.
Nothing but tick off a bunch of really nice guys.
You're such a winner. :hs:
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 10:11 AM Originally posted by likwid
If this isn't a troll, then I don't know what one is.
You were obviously trying to tick off the sport guys and you seem to have done a good job at it.
What did you accomplish.
Nothing but tick off a bunch of really nice guys.
You're such a winner. :hs:
A troll? Please elaborate?
I was not trying to tick off anyone, I was the one that was ticked off and felt like posting my feelings
BigFish 07-08-2004, 10:13 AM No need for the F-BOMBS guys.....I think you guys are capable of expressing yourselves with a little more eloquence and savy!:huh:
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 10:15 AM Originally posted by BigFish
No need for the F-BOMBS guys.....I think you guys are capable of expressing yourselves with a little more eloquence and savy!:huh:
The was only one ignorant person that droped an F-bomb, no need to make it plural.
likwid 07-08-2004, 10:16 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a number of things, traditionally:
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A person who posts these.
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BigFish 07-08-2004, 10:21 AM OK....everyone just push the keyboard away and take a few steps back and everyone will be alright........:hidin:
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 10:22 AM Originally posted by likwid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a number of things, traditionally:
A post (on a newsgroup, or other forum) thought to be intended to incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or offense.
A person who posts these.
The term troll has negative connotations, and is often applied as an insult. An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict.
A troll's reactions to being identified as a troll often gives the game away. A person unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation. A troll is more likely to react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser.
.
"An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll."
"A person unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation."
Krispy 07-08-2004, 10:25 AM S-Journey, why would you put a thumbs-up in front of your post title? Sounds like your back tracking :confused:
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 10:29 AM Originally posted by Krispy
S-Journey, why would you put a thumbs-up in front of your post title? Sounds like your back tracking :confused:
Just noticed that after I saw this post, that was a mistake--
No back tracking here Krispy, I will stay my course no matter what the consequences.
chris L 07-08-2004, 10:36 AM La Da Da Da Da
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 10:45 AM Originally posted by Flaptail
I know I shouldn't get into this but I can't resist. OK SJ, riddle me this, how many bass died this week from harvest by "sportfishermen"? How many since May 1st? How many will be taken all season long? Junk science on SF's part. :smash: :rolleyes: :smokin:
Don't know Flap, I would be interested in finding out those numbers. Don't you think those fish taken by "sportfishermen" were worth a hell of a lot more to themselves than 1.00$-1.50$ a pound?
I mean we are talking about stripers here, 1.00$-1.50$ a fricken pound!
quick decision 07-08-2004, 11:04 AM I have been away from the computer for a while and was excited about seeing what was going on in this forum. I have to say its disapointing to read f-bombs and threats from you two in this thread. CLean it up.
Mike P 07-08-2004, 11:53 AM As my dear departed Italian grandmother would say, "Basta!!!"
JohnR 07-08-2004, 12:26 PM Okoley Dokely, howdy friekin' who neighbor....
First off - knock off the language - both of you - no need for it.
Secondly, SJourney, you probably could have expressed this well worn topic in a better way. If you were trying to rally the masses and charge into the next DMF/ASMFC meeting, hehehe, doesn't work like that. Don't know if I ever saw you at one of those meetings to express your displeasure... Again, don't guive us SysAdmins a bad name....
Anyway - if you want to add some CONSTRUCTIVE commentary on this topic, start it fresh and debate it (again).
Thanks guys & gals (and Chris)....
Oh Yeh - Quick, welcome back....
jsullivan 07-08-2004, 01:43 PM I dont see any prob at all with a commercial harvest ! the prob is NO STATE TO STATE REGS. and truth be known I DONT TROLL TOO MUCH WORK IF I FIND FISH I CAN GET THE JOB DONE FASTER AND WITH ALOT LESS FUEL CONSUMPTION FOR MORE $ IN MY POCKETT SO....................
RIROCKHOUND 07-08-2004, 01:51 PM Different kind of trolling JR...
For me this wasn't an issue of Rec v. Comm. I just thought the way it was asked it was baiting us to get on S-J for his commercial status; we sold a few bass in years past, to me it's not a big deal, luckily I'm at the point where I can fish for fun and work for $$, but if you do it to supplement your income and it's legal, then I don't have a problem, especially b/c it's rod and reel...
S-J if it was a misunderstanding I appologize, but I think you went about sparking a debate all wrong...
jsullivan 07-08-2004, 02:04 PM I'm, not smart I just fish and wouldent think of someone drawing fire onto themself by saying something, I was really thinking w/ $ on the line how many people highgrade and what is the penalty for it I honestly know 0 about boat fishing but my buddy has alot more time to fish this year so Im givin' it a go is that so bad? like i said I have spent 15 yrs on the sand only 4 or 5 trips on the boat ever but it was cool to me ..
S-Journey 07-08-2004, 02:04 PM I was just trying to see how the masses felt about this subject, didn't mean for it to come out like it did.
Some of you have been on this site forever and have most likely discussed this stuff more times than you care to remember, well I haven't. I'm not saying it's wrong to fish commercial for striped bass with a rod and reel, I'm just upset with how it is managed and most of all how it is enforced.
Sorry to all who were offended, even you Chris!
RIROCKHOUND 07-08-2004, 02:26 PM S-J try a poll or somthing asking about it, much lower stress then the way you worded it... no harm no foul on my end...
TheSpecialist 07-08-2004, 02:46 PM S-J I think that you will find that 95 percent of the board would rather no commercial season. However as long as people are obeying the law, I have nothing against it. if you don't like it, start a movement against it, you would find many supporters.
chris L 07-08-2004, 02:59 PM I appologize for my language !
fishdog13 07-08-2004, 04:45 PM hey boys don't worry . be happy u can keep a 28 . not my fault you can't drive you're range rover pulling that fancy bayliner or the dressed up pleaasure craft with the fancy twin screw 10 million dollar engines. and can't catch crap . true life begins on the 11th this separates the who do and the who don'ts:laughs:
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