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stripers247
08-18-2004, 01:20 AM
Rochetta and McReynolds talk all the time. The have both talked to each other about several bigger stripers that have gotten away.

Al hasnt said a word in 22 years and all three of his children are happy and successful.

You make the guy out like he is a bum. Do you guys know the man personally?

Or only the BS that has been perpetuated by hateful comments.

Rochetta was well known Al was not.

Rochetta had a 100,000 boat Al did not.

Al has a tremendous amount of repect for Bob Rochetta and I get the feeling that it is reciprical. Why do you feel the need to kick the dog again.

Somethin personal or jealousy?

kippy
08-18-2004, 06:21 AM
I don't think anyone is ripping Al or making him out to be a bum. Attributing all the problems you have had in life to a fish though, there must be other reasons than that. I have alot of respect for Al and what he accomplished, but you can't always blame others for your problems. Just my $.02

beachwalker
08-18-2004, 06:23 AM
dude,

you got a lot of balls blaming us for treating your sweet heart Al with so called disrespect.

I hope you are joking. if not go change your poopie pants :laughs:

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 06:43 AM
No one is ripping Al or boosting Bob Rocchetta. I've fished with the latter, gotten to know him a bit, and respect him a great deal not only because he's a swell angler, but also A MANLY ROLE MODEL who has his $hit together.

What is annoying is the expectation that we should feel sorry for Al because "fishing ruined his life."

Catching the world record is great, and I don't care if it was skill or luck or equipment.

But a person needs more to hang his hat on than some stupid fish (or getting screwed by one).

You're not doing Al any favors by JUST pointing out all the bad things that happened to him after the world record catch. He got exploited. He lived in NJ. What do you expect?

Right now, you're portraying him as a LOSER.

Why don't you balance the negatives with some positives? Why don't you tell us about the GOOD things has Al done with his life (or his family) after the catch?

Crafty Angler
08-18-2004, 06:46 AM
There is the first of a two part article in this month's Saltwater Sportsman about McReynolds and the record bass told in his own words - I just got my copy in the mail yesterday and haven't had a chance yet to read it. It should be interesting.

Bob Rochetta is a good friend of a friend of mine and his dad who is a long-time Montauk charter skipper and we recently did some restoration work on a photo of Rochetta's fish that appeared in a Montauk paper....

But....uhhhhh...I don't recall seeing any posts recently around here dissing either guy. :huh::confused::huh:

beachwalker
08-18-2004, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by fishweewee
You're not doing Al any favors by JUST pointing out all the bad things that happened to him after the world record catch. He got screwed and exploited. He lived in NJ. What do you expect?




:laughs: :laughs:

Crafty Angler
08-18-2004, 06:50 AM
Nothing intrinsically wrong with being from Joisey, I guess -

Hey, everybody's gotta be from somewhere :hihi:

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 06:55 AM
I'm not afraid to say that NJ is the armpit of the East Coast (sorry Jersey guys, you can make fun of my home state all you want I hate it too). :bshake:

chris L
08-18-2004, 07:26 AM
who is Al McReynolds ? Bob Rochetta ? Ronald McDonald ??

what do they have in common ?
I dont know any of them and they dont know me !

theSURF121
08-18-2004, 07:28 AM
Rochetta is one of the most respected fisherman around. He puts more people into large is the reason. If you ever take the New London/Orient Point Ferry (Cross Sound), stop in at "Orient By The Sea Restaurant" and take a gander at what I think is his 76 lb'r. Most of his fishing is at "The Race", "Gut" and "Sluiceway" and the results of the prior night are sometimes hanging on his boat.

MakoMike
08-18-2004, 07:51 AM
247,
See my reply in the other thread.

jugstah
08-18-2004, 07:59 AM
I'm tired of hearing people sing their "Oh Woe Me" song and dance. Life is hard enough for everyone except the filthy rich with 100k boats.

Get over it, and trudge through life like everyone else.

And I've yet to see a post disparaging Al's name. So this thread should be locked and deleted.

stripers247
08-18-2004, 08:31 AM
Give it a rest.

And go catch a fish. What is this thread hate Al? I would delete the whole damn thing.

Read the whole story before rushing to judgement.

Your opinions aside. Get the facts first.

Some people are made up differently than others. He's just a fisherman.

Just like the rest of us.

He gets dumped on and the other guys a god. Go read the other thread the night he caught the devil and tell me theres no negative comments. I'd rather focus on the positive.

Must be Jersey.

Its a pleasure for me to fish with the man and learn from him.

I dont give half a dump what any of you think.

jugstah
08-18-2004, 08:35 AM
Your reading skills leave a lot to the imagination.

stripers247
08-18-2004, 08:50 AM
jigstah You mean comprehension skills dont you?

:confused:

I can read between the lines just fine:D

NIB
08-18-2004, 08:50 AM
Its amazing to me how things get blown outof proportion on the internet.Some people read what they wanna believe an others ...Well I wonder if they read at all. I seen people post things on both sides of these threads.. I wonder what they are lookin at.Sometimes before i make a post i think is goin to be a angry one I go back an reread an often It is my own mistake or misconception.perhaps alot of others could benifit from this technique.Another good rule of thumb is If U don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all. I wonder how many of these big shots would be man enough to say some of the things i read in person.Seems like the internet brings on the beer muscles.It's a great tool for learning an makin friends.why ruin it with BS. I think the Al Mc Reynolds story is a interesting one.I for one would not know of the story in a Mag if not for this.i hope to get it today Now will i believe everything i read Who knows.thats for me to decide.But Al is a human bein with skin an feelings an all that crap.So if i have indifferent thoughts about what i read I'll probably keep them to myself thats where they belong.....Holy cow i'm really late for work. :smash:

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by jugstah
I'm tired of hearing people sing their "Oh Woe Me" song and dance. Life is hard enough for everyone...

I'm not trying to be a wise-ass or mean-spirited about Al at all.

What Jugstah said.

ThrowingTimber
08-18-2004, 09:33 AM
You know what they say about arguing on the internet don'cha?

JohnR
08-18-2004, 09:43 AM
9:50 am? That's not even bankers hours NIB :D !!!

Stripers247 - we're arguing on the INTERNET - about a sad, sad, sad story (about to be published so make sure you read it) over a guy that has probably gotten less than he deserves). From what I see written here, most people have sympathy with Al and his achievement/curse/getting screwed by others depending on one's interpretation of the post YOU put up here. So YOU go and post this and then tell us to NOT express our opinions? So then you must not be discussing this with us but dictating to us then, is that right? Or are we all just stupid and can't grasp the concept you have passed down?

I wish Al NO ill will whatsoever and if that's how you read my post than I think it's YOU fishing for a problem and not everyone else piling on. If you wanted to create some interest in the stories you are writing and interest in your site, you have succeded. If you are trying to make everyone else out to be the bad guys here then you are truly mistaken. I think YOU need to go out and wet a line (and from the shore, because we all know boat fish don't count, right? that was a joke before everyone tries to :bsod: :nailem: whack me :rotfl: )

chris L
08-18-2004, 09:55 AM
Do fish market bought fish count ? as opposed to stop and crap bought fish .

Motor Fish
08-18-2004, 09:57 AM
JohnR hit the nail on the head. After reading through all of this twice, I believe 247 is looking for some additional ideas / quotes / publicity for the book.

stripers247
08-18-2004, 11:42 AM
not my intent to dictate, Point taken. Intellegent discourse is healthy. Your right everyone has their opinion. I'd like to win some of the naysayers to his side. I think he is misunderstood. Your right and I am totally biased. No one has approached that record since and no fish has encountered as much scrutiny. I dont know if I posted this already
"It was the most examined fish they ever had. The went to painstaking detail of fact . This fish was under a magnifying glass since it went to Cambells shop. I caught the fish and put it in his freezer box and that was the last I ever seen of the world record.
They Named him Bert the Bass because he was gonna be examined as a patient and needed a name. Dr Nomi and Demayo were bone doctors in Northfield or sommers point New Jersey. sombody named it bert the bass but it should have been Alberta because it was a female. The two Drs. with their medical licenses and reputations at hand to examine this fish and pronounce with the xrays beyond a reasonable doubt the fish had no foreign matter it was all cartiledge flesh bones and scales. 78 .8 pounds'.

I hope you guys enjoyed the story and I appreciated the feedback.

bloocrab
08-18-2004, 12:31 PM
I read the "The Real Story" in the SWS magazine and I didnt' see it as a negative read....:confused: .....what appeared negative to me, was the way you <<stripers247>> posted about the same story. You depicted him as a poor thing looking for sympathy, NOT the story in SWS.

What was the point of your post?





Before you answer that question, and I may be wrong - BUT - I think your advertising for the near future. If so, step up and do it responsibly. IMO

stripers247
08-18-2004, 01:07 PM
I didnt post the same story. The catch is the story in SWS. And who said the SWS was a negative read. It is an amazing story of the catch. I thought it was terrific. This story is the aftermath of the catch and some of it will be alluded to in the October editionof SWS. If you read Dibenedetos chapter about Al in "on the run". It is a real monkeys paw story.
Please don't misconstrue the facts.

Al said that i would be subject to this. This is his story not mine. And yes the publicity is generating interest fro Al and he has finally been invited to speak and do interviews for fees.

Bravo!!

beachwalker
08-18-2004, 01:11 PM
did he whisper that into your ear before you kissed him goodnight ?

stripers247
08-18-2004, 01:13 PM
Negativety and jealousy. :smash: doesnt end.

DaveS
08-18-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by NIB
Holy cow i'm really late for work. :smash:


Tell The Governor we said "hi":laughs:



247, what are you trying to get out of all of this? I mean, I dont understand what this is all about dude. Everybody has sob stories, but your making the man out to be a complete looser. Definitley not helping Al in any way with all this nonsense your typing. Just let it go.

stripers247
08-18-2004, 01:35 PM
I dont give half a dump what you think.

The SWS is a great story of the catch. Not negative or sad at all.

What do you think stripers247 stands for. This is what we are. This is what I am stripers 247.
What do you think my motive is?

My intent isnt to get you guys mad .
If it was a blue or a flounder we wouldnt even be discussing this.


Because it is a record that has'nt been broken in 23 years it is quite a compelling story. years later why is everybody so angry or jealous still? I find that part facinating.
Al hasnt had a mail box or a web site before to tell the story. He would like to answer all the questionss and make personal apperances and fish with guys who would like to go fishing with him. And judging by the his loaded email box I think there is an awful lot of positive support for the man. Which Im very pleased about.
If a couple of Bozos think its a negative portrayal. so be it. Go catch a fish.

This is fun for me, and until I, m banned from a silly web forum. I will keep responding to the BS.

bloocrab
08-18-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by stripers247
This is fun for me, and until I, m banned from a silly web forum. I will keep responding to the BS.


Now that's the best idea I've read yet ;).........I wonder how Al appreciates you USING him and his story for your own personal gain.....or have you manipulated his mind into thinking that your actually fighting for him and not just getting some exposure for yourself.

YOur friend bob -


Your motto is what? stripers247 ???then why the hell aren't you fishing right now? Or are you ;).....just in a different kinda ocean.

chris L
08-18-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by bloocrab

YOur friend bob -


hey bob ! did you know bob spelled backwards is still bob ? but I thought your name was sue ?

bloocrab
08-18-2004, 02:14 PM
no ChrisL....he referred to me as bloobob in an earlier post....he must know me better than I know myself....just what I needed, another wife. :smash:

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 02:16 PM
Did you know that if a fella named SAM married a gal named PAM, they could call their kids :spam: ?

The Iceman 6
08-18-2004, 02:22 PM
How many B's in "Babar?"

stripers247
08-18-2004, 02:38 PM
.........I wonder how Al appreciates you USING him and his story for your own personal gain.....or have you manipulated his mind into thinking that your actually fighting for him and not just getting some exposure for yourself.

This is the biggest bunch of goofs I could have been talking to.

:yawn:

chris L
08-18-2004, 02:48 PM
LMAO
Im an internet comedian not a goof ! I came in 33rd on last comic standing .

JohnR
08-18-2004, 09:27 PM
OK, you are really going out of your way to be a jackass here aren't you?

Originally posted by stripers247
The SWS is a great story of the catch. Not negative or sad at all. So the article paints a much better picture than the crap you posted here today? I will still read the article but I have less faith in it the more and more you show your true colors around here. You got what you wanted, more traffic, a little notoriety and some more exposure. Hmmm, seen this all before :rollem: . You did not come here to set the record straight, you came here for the same reason you came here the last time = :spam:

HOPEFULLY, you will not have give Al WORSE trouble because of your antics here and seeing that you are such a class act, other places as well. The more and more that this thread unwinds, the more you look like a jackass and you probably couldn't give a crap if that reflects on Al McReynolds one way or the other. I just hope you are not just one more in a long line of people with the intenion of screwing Al for your benefit. Hmmm, the fish does it again, eh?

What do you think stripers247 stands for.
This is what we are. This is what I am stripers 247.
What do you think my motive is? Stand for? Spewing crap on other Striper sites 24 /7 ? Certainly not any kind of balance in the finer points of Netiquette. Let's see, we'll spam another bigger fishing site, generate some extra hits at Al's expense, and then we'll piss off everyone and still smell like a rose.... I've seen this often before and if it is what I think it is, you are lower than bluefish scum. I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt it...

My intent isnt to get you guys mad .
If it was a blue or a flounder we wouldnt even be discussing this. Fortunately those record holders have not had jerks acting on their behalf.

Because it is a record that has'nt been broken in 23 years it is quite a compelling story. years later why is everybody so angry or jealous still?

You think people are jealous? Today? Most of us are in awe of that.

Al hasnt had a mail box or a web site before to tell the story. He would like to answer all the questionss and make personal apperances and fish with guys who would like to go fishing with him. I'd like to fish with him. Say hello, wet a line. Great territory to fish up there too - SandSled or Rock Hopping, colder deeper water in tight to shore too. Bass country. You know, if I ever did fish with you Al - I wouldn't need to put it on the front page of the site and post it on every forum in every corner of the interblab... But hey, that's me. I've learned my lessons there.

Jim - you fish with Al yet? Do you fish?

And judging by the his loaded email box I think there is an awful lot of positive support for the man. Which Im very pleased about. Good for him

If a couple of Bozos think its a negative portrayal. so be it. Go catch a fish. I think it is a sad story, that I've seen before in a few places, plus On The Run (where DiBenedetto establishes himself as much more a class act than you have), and StriperSurf had something at one point. Anyway, if you think that we, as members of this site are putting a negative spin on this. I see little to show me people here trashing Al. I see some questions, some people not convinced yet, and I see more than a few people very supportive and sympathetic of the guy. The biggest negative I've read so far is the crap that you're pouring - independent of what Al is saying.

This is fun for me, and until I, m banned from a silly web forum. I will keep responding to the BS. [/B] You're shoveling the BS pretty good on your own and I'm getting tired of letting little Jimmy play in this sandbox. You disrespect others and stir crap and I sincerely believe you are doing this for YOUR gain with YOUR site and Al is getting screwed. Yet again, because of that fish, someone taking advantage of him. I SINCERELY hope that you're just being a RICHARD here and are going to treat Al honestly but I'm not convinced of that.(I really want to swear here but seeing that I just banned swearing, again, &^$#@ &*%^$# ...)

Now, as being the chief cook & bottlewasher, I could bounce this guy but being that we're a "silly web forum", all us angry and jealous people can vote to send OpticalRectumitis247 on his merry little way... Purely from a registration rules standpoint he's broken a few.

For Al McReynolds - 247 mentioned that you have an access to e-mail. YOU can feel free to e-mail me any time. And I'm being sincere when I wonder if Jim Hannan is someone else just taking you for a little joy ride. Hopefully he is a stand up guy in your case. I've been doing this occasionally stupid "fishing internet" website stuff for 7 years and have owned and run my own site now for over 4 years. I've seen a lot of people with agendas or plans like Jim come and go. Keep one hand on your family jewels and the other on your wallet. Good luck and regardless what Jim Harran says, we're not out to throw you under the bus, hopefully he is not either. Maybe he treats you and others well and honestly - but around here, he's an idiot.

kippy
08-18-2004, 09:45 PM
Well said John. I vote to bounce this guy and his bs..

Buh Bye! :wave:

stripers247
08-18-2004, 09:48 PM
Jealousy rears its ugly head.

OpticalRectumitis247 Please with the psuedo intellectual ramblings. You will hurt yourself.

Inflammation of your eyes and a**hole?

For your information Dibenedetto wrote a chapter on Al and a magazine article. Al got paid nothing.

Stripersurf is Bob D'amico whom Al speaks highly of.
At least Al got paid a stipend for my interview.s. Email him and ask him. He said you guys wouldnt turn him down for interviews And this is his idea Mr Jonny.


People are gonna fly off your ship like working birds when they read your comments. They don't need any one to interpret for them especially some one with your inflated ego.

Screw you . You wont have to bounce me. I'll see you in the rear view mirror.

tight lines.

Got Stripers
08-18-2004, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by bloocrab
no ChrisL....he referred to me as bloobob in an earlier post....he must know me better than I know myself....just what I needed, another wife. :smash:

I've had blue something or other on occassion, very painful as most would agree:).

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by stripers247
Jealousy reers its ugly head.


Quite the contrary.

Stupidity (namely, yours) r-e-a-r-s its ugly head.

Don't you know how to spell, you illiterate piece of dumb trash?

theSURF121
08-18-2004, 10:36 PM
This same post is located on another site.:spam: indeed.Spam, Spam, Spam...

JohnR
08-18-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by stripers247
Jealousy reers its ugly head. Who is jealous ?? You keep saying it Jimmy and I keep asking who is jealous?

OpticalRectumitis247 Please with the psuedo intellectual ramblings. You will hurt yourself. Yes, it did hurt I really bit my tounge when pressed against my cheek

For your information Dibenedetto wrote a chapter on Al and a magazine article. Al got paid nothing. I always thought "interviews" were not paid.

Stripersurf is Bob D'amico whom Al speaks highly of.
At least Al got paid a stipend for my interview.s. Email him and ask him. He said you guys wouldnt turn him down for interviews And this is his idea Mr Jonny. I know who SS.com is. Don't know the guy, have no opinion either way on Bob. Al approached us, S-B, for an interview? Hmmm, don't know who he approached but it would have probably been me and I never got that call. I don't want to interview him, I'd rather cast a line and BS with him. I have no desire to do interviews - not my thing. No disprespect to Al but I wouldn't interview him because I don't assume I talented enough to do it. Not every site is trying to scratch and claw and scoop and spam and link its way to the top.

People are gonna fly off your ship like working birds when they read your comments. They don't need any one to interpret for them especially some one with your inflated ego. THAT was funny. Not much ego here...

Screw you . You wont have to bounce me. I'll see you in the rear view mirror. :wavey: I'm not obsessed with passing you or concerned of being passed behind. I enjoy our little fishing community where we get together and talk fishing online, we meet up and fish from rocks and beaches and boats. People trade their own wonderful creations of turned wood into something that will fool a bass. People have met and created great, lifelong friends as a result of this site. Anglers have learned and shared skills. I have made lifelong friends from this site. As a result, it doesn't matter to me how big we are or how much money is made, it's about a fishing community that is freikin' awesome. People that give a rat's ass. that just happen to share the same passion. The sooner you learn that, the more fun you will have - trust me. If it's a business it won't be much fun and it can't be much of a labor of love. This site is just that for me. I can't make great plugs or build fancy rods (well, they ain't too bad :hihi: ) and I can't get a line wet as often as I'd like but I can enjoy this community. That's what I do and that's what this site is about - the community.

tight lines. Adios...

JohnR
08-18-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by theSURF121
This same post is located on another site.:spam: indeed.Spam, Spam, Spam...

Hey Surf - which one is that??

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 10:44 PM
:smash:

Slipknot
08-18-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by stripers247
you guys are killing me

that is our job


How does one get an article written and in a magazine when the interview over the phone just took place on August 13th?:confused:
I guess you can't be the author then like you said, or this is a sham with a little spam.

CAL
08-18-2004, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by stripers247
Email him and ask him.


If Al has a computer, then why doesn't he come on here and say what he has to say instead of you doing it for him?

fishweewee
08-18-2004, 10:54 PM
John, thank you for shutting his online pie-hole, I was afraid what little left of his brains would be dripping out through that giant s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g organ of his.

Slipknot
08-18-2004, 11:01 PM
from who's online 1 minute ago

stripers247 Viewing Thread you guys are killin me 11:45 PM

Well? cat got your tongue?

JohnR
08-18-2004, 11:04 PM
Hi Cal :wavey:

Somewhere in this Jimmy247 mentioned that Al could check his daughter's computer or niece's - something like that.,,

Johnny C
08-18-2004, 11:04 PM
bottom line, I have fished once this year. got a 12 incher
looking to go hard in the fall. I don't know al, I like JohnR, even though we have only spoken via email, and I love fishing.
I guess there are just a bunch of hook ers out there who like to bitch.
Hey, I say we have have a party to celebrate the non jackasses out there
Johnny

CAL
08-18-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by stripers247


People are gonna fly off your ship like working birds when they read your comments.

I'll see you in the rear view mirror.

tight lines.

:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

That's a friggin riot!

I've seen who your moderators are. You might want your New England moderator to be someone that actually ventures outside
"fishing under the railroad trestle in the Hampton marsh" and your Gear and Tackle guy to have known what a danny is for more than the last 6 months :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

JohnR
08-18-2004, 11:11 PM
I just locked his account for the night. Maybe by tomorrow this can blow over a little, or not :huh:

Slipknot
08-18-2004, 11:16 PM
Oh
ok

I refuse to sign up on his site to ask him, maybe he should fess up and tell the truth on his own site. Otherwise he is laughable.

I'm sure I'll read the article when I have the chance, that was one helluva fish Al caught.

CAL
08-18-2004, 11:53 PM
Hi John :wavey:

Jonny Bolt
08-19-2004, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by CAL
:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

That's a friggin riot!

I've seen who your moderators are. You might want your New England moderator to be someone that actually ventures outside
"fishing under the railroad trestle in the Hampton marsh" and your Gear and Tackle guy to have known what a danny is for more than the last 6 months :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Oh no, if its not CAL running his tinhorn yet again. I'll be damned.

So whats wrong with Jim's Moderators? For one thing, if you actually thought you could run your mouth about me in a thread and not have me find out, uh-ah cupcake. Secondly, I fish from the Kennebec River in Bath, ME down to CT. throughout the season. So I think you should get your facts straight before you spew any of your internet swill and negativity about me. You and your canalpal Beach(sleep)walker seem to have some of the biggest chips on your shoulders in the online Striper community. Calvin, I probably travel and fish more in one month than you do all season, so please spare me your tirades. Also, if you would have opened your eyeballs a little more, you wouldve noticed there is more than one NE Mod.. I suppose now you'll make fun of Briggs for fishing the Rhode Island beaches, or maybe make fun of Charlie for fishing Plum Island? You act like an infantile buffoon CAL. Kill yourself.

You will also notice that unlike here, Mods. dont call members "jerks" and other names. Most of the Striper boards online have been BLOWN OUT & GAPPED OUT like an old Motley Crue groupie, by people like you CAL. Alot of people get sick of the atmosphere people like YOU bring to a community. This is the reason for other people starting newer boards.

And if your such a big, brawny man, and you have such a problem with the Hampton Estuary and its trestles, why not pick your bitch tits up and come on out and we'll have a little good ol fishin' derby :D That way, you could tell me your problem with me to my face, and not post your snide little remarks on your fave Striper message board.

Oh yeah, I've known about Danny plugs a little longer than 6 months buddy lol. You think because it was my first season actually throwing wood that big, that I never knew about them? LMAO. Your a mental midget. Go lay down.

jugstah
08-19-2004, 06:27 AM
Ok, Al's definitely not getting any help from this nincompoop.

CAL
08-19-2004, 06:47 AM
JB, yeah I know....I'm always starting up with people here and causing problems :smash:

I don't know if I got a chip on my shoulder as big as BW though :laughs:

Why don't you go on back to your board and take that
:spam:master with you.

JohnR
08-19-2004, 07:56 AM
Johnny B - you've been walking around here with some attitude too while you've been here. So it's not like it is unusual, right?

As for Mods calling people jerks, that must be me calling that out to Jim because that is all I've seen. And you know, it's pretty rare when that happens that I get worked up like that. But like the last time Jim came here, he spammed. He didn't ask to post this, he just did it. If he had asked last time, he would have probably received a different reception. But if you ask, you might just get turned down. So why be nice and ask when you can stir up a little controversy instead :rollem: ... Yeh, he's the victim here - IT'S THE INTERNET - don't take it so friekin seriously....

beachwalker
08-19-2004, 08:17 AM
Cal,

I ain't got no chip. I am basically just a #####.

thats my story and I am sticking to it :laughs: :laughs:

sorry about the language john :(

Saltheart
08-19-2004, 08:18 AM
I'm reading all this and thinking what a jerk! Then i get to the part where he thinks everyone will leave this site and go to his cause of John's comments this thread! That was a good chuckle. :) :)

You should have quit while you were ahead 247.

just think , if your site ever does grow to be successful like this one , you will start to atrract lots of people.....just like you. You deserve it!

bloocrab
08-19-2004, 08:31 AM
This :bshake: has his own site??...:laughs: :laughs: ....I thought he was a teenager - - I was going to ask Christian to teach him some respect. :)

This post should be deleted/moved/yada-yada-yada....I don't see anything positive coming from this anymore. We, including myself will only add negativity to it. It's a dead horse - let's move on. My example above :D....

My thoughts on striper247.....below



:gf:....yeah, he's a snot picker.

Jonny Bolt
08-19-2004, 11:56 AM
JohnR, I've been walking around here with a chip on my shoulder since I've been here? LOL. That's comical. I come to this board about 2 times a month, and out of the 10 or so threads I've started here, about 9 of them were hijacked, raped, and taken way off topic without a murmor from the Staff here. Much like this thread has turned into kukkah.

So I come into a thread about Jim and Al, a thread I have absolutely nothing to do with, and see CALiente throwing out remarks and comments about me, and dragging me into it when I wasnt even here! Thats a riot! Just dragging me through the mud, all the while he was hoping I'd never see it. I had NO REASON to even be here, until CAL chose to spit some of his venom at me. Mr. Big #^&#^&#^&#^&talker, always talkin' about somebody, but not doin' much else.

CAL, you should be a man, and say things to peoples faces.

You guys have a problem with Jim because of something he posted, thinking others would be interested in it, then you have a problem with how he tries to explain himself, then its attack time and the silly comments fly. Whatever. If the Mods. here knew better, they wouldve REMOVED the friggin' post before any replies couldve even been posted. BUT NO. Not here. Here, they keep the post up, and let the Peanut Gallery attack the poster, and hey, the Staff even gets involved in it, throwing out comments and calling people names, next thing you know, the whole thing explodes into a free for all, and people who werent even involved in it and had no idea it even existed are dragged into it by one of the infamous Peanut Gallery. Yeah, you scream spam. If its spam, then why not delete it the moment its posted? LMAO. Why? Because it was only spam after you decided you didnt like it anymore. Only after Jim tried to defend and explain himself. Only after you allowed it to become a cess pool and a free for all did you deem it spam. The Staff on this board is all but USELESS, and needs to be updated. Just my opinion.

Did you ever stop and think that maybe Jim read something one of you wrote out of context? Maybe he read it wrong. Maybe he is worked up. Maybe he had a bad day. But theres no goddamn slack given here. Just attack mode, and no Moderation to limit it. I have read all of your posts in this thread, and I can honestly say that I cannot believe you fellow (supposed) Striper Fishermen treat other this way. You act like childish little brats to each other. Might as well scratch and pull each others hair. I fully understand now why a number of people have told me they dislike the feeling they recieved when coming to this board, and no longer wish to participate here. You can make fun of 247 or any other site/board you want, but you've been up for what? 7 years? 247 has been up for 4 months. And I'll tell you one thing, the atmosphere isnt full of negativity and hate like this place is, nor will it ever be. And thats due mostly to the STAFF which monitors and moderates the board. That which is SEVERLY lacking here at Striped-Bass.com. So have at it, and make fun all you want. Act silly and infantile, but they'll still be people hatin' on this place too cuz of the rogue members here and the lack of Moderation. This is supposed to be a COMMUNITY. An online Striped Bass COMMUNITY. But by looking at how some of you act, I see why things are so seperated and torn apart. Like me, or hate me, you should GROW UP, and have a little respect for others. None of you will ever admit your wrong. I expect responses to be filled with yet more name calling and childish behavior at me.

Thanks for involving me in another one of your soap operas.

JohnR
08-19-2004, 01:27 PM
Actually - you be specific as we beat this dead horese I said you have had "with some attitude too while you've been here". Not exactly "a chip" on your shoulder. The one thread I recall being Hijacked was your Focus thread when some people called you on it. At that point you went right and did what you accuse others of doing.

One simple start to this would have been to ask permission to post the thread. As stated in the Registration agreement (oh yeh - ignored the LAST time he came around) "advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations or any other method to promote yourself without first clearing it with Striped-Bass.com is inappropriate on this message board" - all he had to do is ASK. I don't allow people to :spam: on this board. It's not fair to me as a site owner, it's not fair to the guys that sponsor the site, and it's not always fair to the memmbers. There are plenty of instances where people e-mail or PM and ask and RECIEVE permission to post stuff - much like what Jim started posting here. This on it's own would have gone far smoother had he done that. This site does not censor links to other places, we do not prevent people from saying like such and such shop or plug that are not our sponsors. We DO draw the line when someone self promotes their fishing related business or their freinds when it is self-promoting or when someone starts something with the intention to promote something else. It's a tough line to walk between keeping a board open and honest and allowing people with the agenda of plugging their own products for their own personal gain (Mike Bartlett / B-Fast Charters, Penetrator Lures, CrabHawk, just to name a few). THAT is a disservice to our members, sponsors, and to me. I could make more money and less agravation just by saying "would you like fries with that". IF Jim gets it together and builds a good site, has a level of ethic, has knowledable moderators and members, AND a bit of luck, he too will find how tough it gets. He ain't there yet and he has no clue as to what its like to run - with lots of help - a mid sized site like this.

Yeah, you scream spam. If its spam, then why not delete it the moment its posted? LMAO. Why? Because it was only spam after you decided you didnt like it anymore. Only after Jim tried to defend and explain himself. Only after you allowed it to become a cess pool and a free for all did you deem it spam. The Staff on this board is all but USELESS, and needs to be updated. Just my opinion. Actually, I called it SPAM right from my first post. I kept the thread going - against my better judgement - as I wanted to hear wht he had to say about Al...

He started this thread to enlighten the world on poor Al but then he acted like a jerk. Well, fortunately I don't think Al will suffer anything bad from this - I'd still like to say hello to the guy and wet a line (and I'll keep my stinkin' mouth shut too). When things were getting discussed and he didn't like the discussion, he reacted. If you don't want to discuss something - for better or worse - KEEP IT OFF AN INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION BOARD. If he wants to dictate a story make it a freikin WAV file.
As for where moderators are working or not working, it's always a work in progress. Elements on the board shift, personalities shift, differences in religion, ideology, passions can flow together or stack each other up. Yes, things are a little crazier than normal or as we'd like but they will always ebb and flow that way. As for the negativity and swearing and needing moderation? Do we need to look at what you've posted and do a granular inspection of every argument you've been in? I don't think so. We try to offer some flexibility here and not be board drill sargeants. It's not anywhere as easy as you think. Good luck. And while you are promoting another website without permission, please remove your links to stripers24 from your profile - and what's that other board??

Hey Al McReynolds - sorry this thread turned to flushable material - wasn't your fault at all....

OK - now that I've wasted time from my REAL job...

Thanks,

John

chris L
08-19-2004, 02:10 PM
can I still be childish ?

Jonny Bolt
08-19-2004, 02:44 PM
"The one thread I recall being Hijacked was your Focus thread when some people called you on it."

Call me on what? What was there to call? S I L L Y. Another silly thread trashed by silly people.

RIROCKHOUND
08-19-2004, 02:55 PM
JB, if you hate it here, go to 247 and leave us alone in our "negativity"
I for one have met quite a few great people on this board, including JohnR, so I think you need to rethink that you're saying...

Jonny Bolt
08-19-2004, 03:03 PM
Oh yeah, I also like how you and your buddies insinuate that Jim doesnt have it together, and his site is no good, and you also perpetuate the idea that his Moderators are somehow less knowledgeable than you and your cohorts. I find it conveniently ironic that some of you need to belittle others down, in order to boost your self up. Thats the number 1 sign of LOW SELF ESTEEM. I think between everyone currently on our Staff, there is a very well balanced amount of knowledge and RESPECT for each other, the members, and the Striper community as a whole. We're not too busy scaring away newbies with our attitudes and mud-slinging contests. We like to meet new people, and help them. I personally am willing to bet a Van Zebco reel that although I work sometimes over 40 hours a week, I probably fish more hours in the week than the pooptalkers here work.

I think thats what some of you need to do. Go fishing.

RIROCKHOUND
08-19-2004, 03:07 PM
""I probably fish more hours in the week than the pooptalkers here work. I think thats what some of you need to do. Go fishing.""

Dont generallize, Many of us here fish most nights of the week, and I still work 50-70hrs a week.... Also, hours fished doesnt equate to being a good fisherman; the more you rant the more you look like an ass; you've wasted enough of my time, so I'm done reading this thread now, and am turned off of even looking at 247 now; as there are other websites I look at, but the guys over there can thank you and your immature BS for turning alot of good fisherman off of that site...

chris L
08-19-2004, 03:13 PM
can I still act childish ?

RIROCKHOUND
08-19-2004, 03:21 PM
Chris, I dont think anyone would expect anything different :D

Slingah
08-19-2004, 03:22 PM
this is such crap:smash:
please do chris L...I love your work:laughs:

chris L
08-19-2004, 03:24 PM
gots to do what I know best and we all know I dont know squat about fishing .

thanks Im glad I can still make people laugh .

NilsC
08-19-2004, 04:18 PM
I could not find any fishing proverbs.

Russian Proverb

The wise man has long ears, big eyes and a short tongue.

Persian Proverb

Whatever is in the heart will come up to the tongue.

More have repented of speech than silence.

The tongue wounds more than a lance.

Silence is the best reply to the ignorant.

Chinese Proverb

Good words are like a string of pearls.

A vacant mind is open to all suggestions as a hollow building echoes all sounds.

Better be silent than speak ill.

Better say nothing than nothing to the purpose.

Those who know much speak little; those who speak much know little.

Arabian Proverb

The crying cat catches nothing.

Italian Proverb

The cask can only yield the wine it contains.

Greek Proverb

We have two ears and one mouth that we may listen the more and talk the less.

Spanish Proverb

Wit without discretion is a sword in the hand of a fool.


Shakespeare

A flow of words is no proof of wisdom.

He who says what he likes, must hear what he does not like.

Be checked for silence, but never taxed for speech.

Give every man thine ear, but few thy voice.

The empty vessel makes the greatest sound.

Confucius

Words are the voice of the heart.

Swift

Talking comes by nature, silence by wisdom.

The chameleon, who is said to feed upon nothing but air, has of all animals the nimblest tongue.

M. Tupper

The tongue talks at the head's cost.

Thistles and thorns prick sore, but evil tongues prick more.

Silence is an excellent remedy against slander.

Silence seldom doth harm.

the cause of good be wise, and in a case indifferent, keep silence.

Eccl.

A great talker is a great liar.

He who would close another man's mouth should first tie up his
own.

He that can rule his tongue shall live without strife.

Pope

Words are like leaves; and where they most abound, much fruit of sense beneath is rarely found.

Bible

A fool's voice is known by a multitude of words.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise.

Seeth thou a man that is hasty in his words? There is more hope of
a fool than of him.

Who knows most says least.

Great boaster, little doer.

A wholesome tongue is a tree of life; but perverseness therein is
a breach in the spirit.

A soft answer turneth away wrath, but grievous words stir up
anger.

The fool shineth no longer than he holdeth his tongue.

The tongue can no man tame; it is a restless evil --- full of
deadly poison.

No man ever repented of having held his tongue.

The tongue is not steel --- yet it cuts.

How oftentimes is silence the wiseth of replies.

Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue, keepeth his soul from
troubles.

Good silence is near holiness.

A slip of the foot may be soon recovered, but that of the tongue
perhaps never.

There is that speaketh rashly like the piercing of a sword; but
tongue of the wise is health.

Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.

He that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief.

A silent man's words are not brought into court.

He knows much who knows how to hold his tongue.

A fair face will get its praise, though the owner keep silent.

The tongue of the righteous is as choice silver.

In the company of strangers silence is safe.

The froward tongue shall be cut out.

We ought either to be silent or to speak things that are better than silence.

The worst wheel of a cart creaks most.

Silence is less injurious than a bad reply.

There is a knack of showing we understand the matter, when we hold our peace.

Let thy speech be short, comprehending much in few words; be as one that knoweth and yet holdeth his tongue.

One man may teach another to speak; but none can teach another to hold his peace.

Neither speak well nor ill of yourself. If well, men will not believe you; if ill, they will believe a great deal more than you say.

When insolence provoketh, when slander false accuseth, when ignorance and prejudice are full of idle talk, let silence be the answer on thy lip and in thy life.

A man of silence is a man of sense.

If you don't say it, you'll not have to unsay it.

He talks much who has least to say.

A tame tongue is a rare bird.

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou be like unto him.

Nils

JohnR
08-19-2004, 05:33 PM
Johnny Bolt - I'm done. If I go any further with this, someone's feelings might get hurt. If you want to stay - fine, but quit your bitchin', if you want to go - fine - do what you want. Someday if you want to have a beer or wet a line, that's fine too. I have too much important stuff to do in my life than to argue this thread any longer :wavey:


Bryan - saw you yesterday in the urabus on Memorial - you were gone before I could say hello....

We need to fish soon - lots of rats with fins to the SW of RHS - want the striped kind

CAL
08-19-2004, 05:36 PM
Jonny, I didn't give a rats ass if you read it. I actually figured 247 would and tell you. So what? I was just expressing my opinion to 247 that having you as a moderator is laughable. Again, my opinion.

Don't know what you're talking about as to "always talking about someone". You're the only one I've ever had a problem with on any site.

And yes.....I've got no problem saying anything to your face or anyone elses.

Lighten up Francis

Jenn
08-19-2004, 05:40 PM
wanna know what really funny about all this???


so many people getting worked up over this al guy! When you really think about it this so called "aftermath" he experienced after this fish was caught was only brought on by himself! Bottom line.....sadly he must have needed this fish to boost his self esteem so he exploited it for what it was worth. and before you jump down my throat for that comment think about this for a minute. we all know Most stories of large fish are questioned and doubted anyway becuase of envy or disbelief, so to try and brag is like slapping yourself in the face!!!!

If I ever catch a large striper few people will know about it....the taxidermist and those people closest to me that would see it hanging on my living room wall!

bassmaster
08-19-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Jonny Bolt
I probably fish more hours in the week than the pooptalkers here work.

you need to check Your Mind sonnny.
I wasnt to happy when You frigged up a week end date for a charter,
Got to tell Ya Kid Ya sounding like a bag of ragin Brown starfish
fish pm's run rampid around here with alot of members
dont know what site Your talking about but good luck
:cheers:

gilligan
08-19-2004, 05:54 PM
:laughs: :laughs: :laughs: .
i love a good peeing match.

CAL
08-19-2004, 05:59 PM
for distance or accuracy?

UserRemoved1
08-19-2004, 06:35 PM
"I don't allow people to :spam: on this board."

Anyone wanna buy some plugs? :laughs:


wow I can't believe I just wasted 20 minutes reading this thread.. I coulda made 20 plugs in that amount of time
:laughs:

JohnR
08-19-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"I don't allow people to :spam: on this board."

Anyone wanna buy some plugs? :laughs:


wow I can't believe I just wasted 20 minutes reading this thread.. I coulda made 20 plugs in that amount of time
:laughs: Stuffit Domeboy :laughs:

Nebe
08-19-2004, 09:27 PM
All you guys are arseholes... every last one of you. you all lie, insult, and have no sense of humor....

thats why I hardly post anything here at s-b.com...:hihi:

bassmaster
08-19-2004, 09:31 PM
i have 11 needle fish for sale :spam:
they are black with red round the eyes

Jonny Bolt
08-19-2004, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by bassmaster
you need to check Your Mind sonnny.
I wasnt to happy when You frigged up a week end date for a charter,
Got to tell Ya Kid Ya sounding like a bag of ragin Brown starfish
fish pm's run rampid around here with alot of members
dont know what site Your talking about but good luck
:cheers:

I think you need to check your alzeimers medicine buddy. I have no idea who you are, or what your talking about lol. But you definitely must be one of the leading members of the Peanut Gallery LMAO. I never "frigged up a weekend date for a charter", because I dont need to do charters lol. I havent been on a charter since 1996. You must be on some pretty good acid :D Your attempts at slander are asinine and utterly doltish and/or lowbrow at best. Keep talkin' poop with tha rest of 'em, you guys are hilarious :laughs:

And CAL, why is it so funny that I am a mod? Because your not? Your insecurities getting to you? Your low self opinion is evident. I was never even part of this idiotic thread until you brought me into it. You couldnt resist flapping your gums. And yet you still take no responsibility for it. I can honestly say, that in my almost 20 years of fishing, you are the only person I would never cast with. And why did you ever have a problem with me? You never even met me, fished with me, or hung out with me. You just make problems with total strangers, fellow fisherman. Are you usually this childish? If so, maybe they were right when they told me you didnt pass sandbox. Did someone steal your Tonka trucks when you were a tyke CAL? You make me snicker, at most. I've had enough of your witless attacks on me and you attempts to discredit me are unfounded and groundless. Enjoy your life of ineptitude.

CAL
08-19-2004, 11:55 PM
Not insecure about anything. Never have nor will I ever want to be a moderator. Just think that you being in a position of supposed knowledge is a riot!

Looks like you had to start your own site(s) in order to fulfill your desire to be accepted.

Hey Jonny......you got a Jew hating forum on your site?

Jonny Bolt
08-20-2004, 12:27 AM
LOL. Inept one, I volunteered to help Jim with the message board itself. I offered my help because I like and respect Jim. I also like how he started a new board, to get away from pesky people who attack others and turn threads into mush, all for the sake of targeting one person. BTW, I have plenty of knowledge & experience, many, many years fishing the rivers, beaches, jetties, and off boats. But am I in no way an arrogant know it all like some I've seen in the internet Striper community. I learn something new every single day. And I enjoy it. So if anyone with more knowledge and wisdom comes along, they are without hesitation brought onto the Staff. And why do question my fishing knowledge so much? Oh yeah, must be your insecurities flaring up again like a pack of hemorroids.

Jew hating forum? WTH is that? No, sorry. This must be another one of your juvenile attempts at some sort of personal slander lol. My ex-girlfriend was a Jew, I suppose now you'll try to say I killed her? :D Whats next from you CAL? I am the anti-Christ and will start WW3? Silly rabbit.

Actually, I started a forum because I am pro-active in the care of the Hampton Estuary. The forum is for locals to my area, and other people who enjoy fishing marshes and rivers. I clean up litter twice a year there and on the access road, I report poachers, and I report illegal activity. I care about my community and its fishery. I volunteer my time there, and I work closely with the town and the State Fish & Game to monitor the activity and the progress there. Are you going to find a way to make fun of me for that now? I assume you will have some foolish retort and personal attack against me again. Your a real hound for that stuff ;)
May I inquire as to what you do for your community? Do you do anything, besides run your tinhorn on the internet to people you've never met? Or are you just another lazy degenerate bum that has to try to defame and belittle others in order to bring yourself up? From what I hear, it's the latter.

But all that aside, I take it back, I would fish with ya bud. Anytime. Who knows, maybe I'll see you at the ditch fling ;)

I'm all done with you now oh cowardly one. I hope your miserable life of slandering and belittling is a good one! I wish you the best my friend. Goodbye.

bloocrab
08-20-2004, 12:32 AM
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!






...let me get my popcorn :lurk:

CAL
08-20-2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Jonny Bolt
.

Jew hating forum? WTH is that?





Anyone who has been on SOL knows what I mean

CAL
08-20-2004, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Jonny Bolt


From what I hear, it's the latter.



You hear NOTHING

CAL
08-20-2004, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Jonny Bolt



But all that aside, I take it back, I would fish with ya bud. Anytime. Who knows, maybe I'll see you at the ditch fling ;)

.

Hopefully. Make sure you bring your bathing suit cuz your gonna be takin a swim.


Sorry JohnR. I know I said I wouldn't.....but hey, I'm only human.

I'm all done with this here. Now where is that IGNORE button?

Jonny Bolt
08-20-2004, 12:56 AM
WHOA! Is that a threat CAL? Resorting to threats now?

You better take your Flinstone vitamins buddy.

fishweewee
08-20-2004, 04:34 AM
Johnny,

Something tells me you better have a legal fund set up, in case some fishermen from the ADL come to persecute you.

UserRemoved1
08-20-2004, 05:38 AM
copycat :laughs: :laughs:

Originally posted by bassmaster
i have 11 needle fish for sale :spam:
they are black with red round the eyes

beachwalker
08-20-2004, 05:42 AM
shiite,

I missed all of this. :laughs:

Slipknot
08-20-2004, 07:00 AM
If John wishes to open this thread back up, it's up to him. But I am closing it now.

Take your personal stuff elsewhere.

JohnR
08-20-2004, 09:55 AM
This thread IS done. If you want to keep fighting and stirring - take it somewhere else...


(Hey Slip - I had to open it type this and close it again :smash: :wavey: )