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BigFish
08-20-2004, 08:45 PM
After envirotexing has anyone else ever gotten those "fuzzies" on the ends of the plug or around the eyes or belly swivel hole? :confused: Its kind of like the envirotex has receded from the spot a little?:(

BigFish
08-21-2004, 04:09 PM
I guess nobody knows what I am talking about?:(

TheRattBoy
08-21-2004, 04:17 PM
All I know is I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I think about "Plug Night":eek: :D johnny "tRB"

justplugit
08-21-2004, 04:21 PM
BF, iv'e seen the e-tex receed when i use auto colors and when i don't wipe down enough after handeling before clear coat. Where you holding the plugs around the eyes or belly holes?

BigFish
08-21-2004, 04:31 PM
I really don't hold the plugs after they are painted....I have them on a 1/8 inch rod so I can hold and spin them while I paint them.:huh:

Justplugit....what do you wipe them down with before you e-tex?:confused:

justplugit
08-21-2004, 04:43 PM
I use an oversize scerw hook and try to hold them by it after painting too but somtimes i forget and grab the plug.:smash:
I wipe with the alcohol wipes,very lightly. Sometimes when i use the auto colors the e-tex just seems to receed on top of the plug.
:(

Jigman
08-21-2004, 06:50 PM
If you are using createx paints, the alchohol may cause the paint to smear. Unless you are handling your plugs with hands that are very greasy, you should not have a problem with the clear coat. Problems come from not mixing the clear coat well enough, not applying it right, or applying it too soon after painting (solvents from the paint cause the clear coat to bubble). Probably other reasons too. I've never wiped a plug before clear coat. Well, once, thats how I found out the createx smears when it contacts alchohol :rolleyes:

Jigman

BigFish
08-21-2004, 07:22 PM
Using rattle cans for now Jigman.....air brush soon! Thanks for the input all!;) Do you guys wait after you mix the envirotex before you apply it? How long after finishing mixing it do you wait to apply it?:confused:

Young Salt
08-21-2004, 08:46 PM
I apply right after mixing. i've found that the longer it sits, the harder it becomes to get the bubbles out.

thefishingfreak
08-21-2004, 08:47 PM
fuzzy's are usualy something underneath trying to get out.
probably humidity.

thefishingfreak
08-21-2004, 08:49 PM
or "solvent pop"
whear the top layer is trying to dry, faster than the bottom layer.
that creates bubbles though???

Nebe
08-21-2004, 09:30 PM
big fish try spraying a clearcoat over your rattlecan layer. When its hard, scuf it up, and wipe down with alcohol very well... then envirotex it... infact envirotex makes a spray on clearcoat...

I had serious fuzzies once and after doing what i stated above, the fuzzies are no-more.....

MAC
08-22-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by thefishingfreak
fuzzy's are usualy something underneath trying to get out.
probably humidity.

Yup, sounds like moisture...

thefishingfreak
08-27-2004, 01:00 PM
yep,
deffinitly water in the wood bigfish
mike

BigFish
08-27-2004, 01:19 PM
What do you mean Mike?:confused: I don't have a water problem....pretty sure the problem I was having was the tack cloth I was using was leaving residue on the ends of the plug and around the eyes (the areas where the tack cloth would catch and rub the most) The current batch of plugs I did not use a tack cloth before painting and so far so good but I will know if I solved my problem when I e-tex, probably Tuesday!;)

What happened there?:eek:

thefishingfreak
08-27-2004, 01:57 PM
:huh: no worrys though :)
all fixed

BigFish
08-27-2004, 01:58 PM
Did all 3 do that Mike? They are from the same batch of wood all my finished plugs came from?:confused:

thefishingfreak
08-27-2004, 02:08 PM
first one i tried
thats the rhode island rednecks' plug anyway:laughs:

BigFish
08-27-2004, 02:10 PM
We gonna get to see them when they are done?:drool:

Jigman
08-27-2004, 02:11 PM
Looks like a solvent problem to me. How soon after using the rattlecans did you clear coat it?

Jigman

thefishingfreak
08-27-2004, 02:19 PM
of coarse you'll see 'em :)

thats my sealer. first coat.
i put it in my car to bake it on the dashboard and it blew up like that.
popped the bubbles and there was water inside.
no water in my airlines, i got a seperator for that.
usually i put them on the dash for a couple days to dry 'em out before i start paintin, with no problems.
this time i didn't.
next time i will:)

MAC
08-27-2004, 07:59 PM
Larry, don't use tack cloth. Use compressed air.

BigFish
08-27-2004, 08:35 PM
Newell Guy, do you think the tack cloth residue may be the source of my "fuzzy" problem?:confused:

Slipknot
08-28-2004, 07:38 AM
Of course it is Larry

stripermaineiac
08-28-2004, 12:29 PM
Something that we rod builders have to watch for is contaminates in the thread or on the blanks. 2 things that are a big hazard are silicone and any type of lubricants such as fishing reel lubes, WD40 , Clear jell lubes. Some of these hide themselves in the mixing containers thus contaminateing the epoxy causeing it to not cure- leave dimples- bubbles- and attract water causing any number of weird types of problems. Epoxy is great but trust me Mr. Murphy just loves to pop his head up and sometimes for me that means redoing a whole rod to include a really high end fancy but wrap. I probably just gave you a bunch more worries but I figure it's better to know these things than not. Tight lines The Striper Maine-iac

capesams
08-28-2004, 12:53 PM
* NOTE...never put any wet/dry plug,, sealed.primed,painted in the sun to dry......it[sun] will draw out anything that is in the wood,,water,sap,oil, whatever...the sun will suck it out right to the surface.....