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ridler72
08-23-2004, 11:33 PM
Friday, July 16, 2004 Back The Halifax Herald Limited

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River system full of striped bass
If DFO denies problem exists, talking about solutions is useless
By GERALD BLAKE

I would like to respond to some of the statements made in the July 6 edition of The Chronicle Herald by a Department of Fisheries and Oceans official concerning recent issues on bass in the Shubenacadie/Stewiacke river system.

The two spawning populations that were lost in the Bay of Fundy were the Annapolis River and the St. John River. The DFO representative failed to mention why these populations were lost.

Let's start with the Annapolis River. Almost everyone knows about the turbines that were installed there. I heard that when the turbines were started in the summer of 1984, on opening day, the water turned red immediately with the fish blood, disgusting many and foretelling of the slaughter of fish to come. The DFO, in its wisdom, knowing the fish had to go past these turbines to get to their spawning area, gave its blessing to the project. From this point on, the spawning population of striped bass disappeared from this river.

The other lost population in the Bay of Fundy is the St. John River in New Brunswick. It has been known for years, by the DFO and others, that the pulp mills along the riverbanks have polluted the spawning population to the point where the eggs in the spawners were no good.

The Shubenacadie/Stewiacke system, on the other hand, has none of these problems. In fact, the situation here is the opposite; therefore, this river system needs to be handled differently.

The striped bass, which have been protected here since the mid-1990s from commercial fishermen and anglers, have flourished, partly because they were protected and partly due to a couple of great spawning seasons, with huge survival rates. They are now in numbers never before seen in anyone's memory. Now the problem is "too many."

They are eating our stocks (shad, gaspereau, smelts, etc.) at a rate that is liable to decimate them within a two-year period. They are also eating every other species of fish in the river, including the thousands of salmon smolts released regularly in an effort to bring back the salmon population to this river system. Eating other fish is what they do. They are an opportunistic feeder and eat any fish that is available at any given time of year.

Because of some anglers and others misunderstanding our intentions, we are withdrawing our offer to be part of the solution here, and leave the situation up to the DFO and the anglers. When the food supply for these bass is gone, the bass will soon follow. I've asked the DFO, "What will these bass eat when the stocks in this river run out?" and received no reply. My only motivation here is my concern for this river system I am so fond of and know so well.

I and my fellow fishermen see what is going on in the river on a daily basis while we're fishing. We've been discussing this situation with the DFO for over a year now, and not once has anyone been around to assess the situation. We have offered on numerous occasions to take them down river with us to see for themselves the situation, but there have been no takers.

As for this committee that has the power to list striped bass as a species of special concern, threatened or endangered, this is laughable, given that the river is absolutely full of bass from Grand Lake and right through to the Cobequid Bay. The weir fishermen 40 miles below us are getting weirs full of striped bass.

The DFO has complete control of this river system and the general public knows very little about this issue, except what they hear from the DFO and us. The DFO can say anything to the public and they may believe it because they don't know the difference. The fishermen of this river system know we have a big problem, but as long as the DFO denies that there is a problem, talking about solutions is useless.

Gerald Blake is president of the Shubenacadie River Fishermen's Association.


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Fly Rod
08-24-2004, 10:50 AM
:) STRIPERS!!! STRIPERS!!! EVERYWHERE!!!!:happy: :happy:

Now there are fishermen complaining about TOOOOOO MANY!!!

Looks like they may need a commercial season to keep the fisherery in control!!!! :D :D

Karl F
08-24-2004, 11:14 AM
Send them seals

Maine Jigman
08-24-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Karl F
Send them seals

:D :D :kewl:

Nova Striper
08-24-2004, 02:08 PM
Now now fellas, Beleive me this is not sitting very well with alot of people including myself. I had made a post about this situation a little while ago. So far not much has takin place as the Striped Bass lovers like myslef have stepped in and created alot more of a stink then expected. The pres of the Shubi netters has chickend out becasue everything he was saying baout the bass was being thrown back in hs face. Like how he thinks the bass are eating all the shad and gasperaux which they fish comercially for, Yet they are taking over 60% of the population of these spieces.
:af: . The list goes on and on. :mad: Oh and you can keep the seals we have enough already :D

fish hard boys and girls

ridler72
08-24-2004, 03:02 PM
Can you keep us updated on the changes there? Any info on size of the bass or any pictures?

Nova Striper
08-24-2004, 04:25 PM
Yes I will keep all who are interested updated. I am a fisheries Biology student and during the spring spawn run we caught and tagged a numebr of fish varying in sizes, the largest we happend to net weighed in at 53 1/2 #. I almost **** my pants. she was beautiful :eek: However a fish like hat is very uncommon in these waters. We did net a 32 lb female with a tag on it from North Carolina which I though was amazing, the distance that fish must have swam. Most fish are in the 5 to 30 lb range. However with the last few years the conditions have been good producing good number of juvy fish. They have survived the winters in good numbers and we catch many many schoolies!. We usually set up shop on the rocks and chunk mackeral and throw stick baits. The tides are huge in the basin as you know so the fishing is strictly tidal from shore. From my boat however i have yet to figure it out :confused: its almost like they dissapear until the tides starts to roll back in. And Ive tried everything lol All in all I wish the fishing was like what you guys are so blessed to have. But I make the most out of what I can get. Stripers for ever!!


I will post picutres soon

TheSpecialist
08-24-2004, 04:38 PM
Ice Cold Molson and Grilled striper.......... :drool:

Nova Striper
08-24-2004, 08:46 PM
Molson eh :D lol......i guess ya havn't had the brew of brews Alexander Kieths now that with some grilled Striper and mushrooms is good eatin and drinkin lol. If I ever get down to one of SB.com gatherings Ill do my damndest to get a few cases across the border to share with you fellas.

World Cup of hockey is soon...oh baby!

Go red soxs eh!

ridler72
08-25-2004, 11:27 AM
Thanks for the info. What a trek for that Bass from NC!