Is there a source out there for deep diving pikie lips?

do you have a picture of exctly what you are looking for ?
are these for trolling or casting swimmers?

steel head, if you use NJtackles large pikie lip and pace the through wire on the nose of the pikie in the centerof the plug you'll get a deep diver...(you could also tweak the loop of th ewire upard) also, if you put some weight under the chin and use a larger belly hook, lilke a 4/o VMC it will dig better.

I'm not a pikie expert, but this is what i do to achieve this

I'll try to post a picture of what I've seen. The lip seems to be an extended version of the normal lip. I've seen them on the smaller pikies, like 4 1/2". Don't know if they ever appeared on any bigger ones.

I fish from shore right now. There are some deep holes along some rocks that I would like to dredge a nice wooden plug thru. Maybe nexy year, troll from a kayak.

Eben, thanks for the suggestion on lip placement and sizing. I'll try that on one or two of my next ones. (I've become fascinated with jointed plugs...)

heres your bmp as a png