i would just like to thank everyone here for inspiring me to start building my own plugs, and all the help you have given me. it is a great feeling looking at the finished product, as you guys said it would be. im sure it will be an even better feeling to catch with the finished product! looking at all the plugs that you guys are building, wow, what talent and overall workmanship is incredible! thank you again, im having a hell of a time building these, and look forward to febuary to seeing all of you and your fine pieces. :kewl: