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Mr. Sandman
11-19-2004, 11:43 AM
Who made these classics?

I am giving these to DZ for his needle collection...we were talking and he seemed excited to know I had a few left. They were in one of my backup storage tubs that I have not opened in a long time.

So .... who made these plugs? I will give you a hint if you want.

BigFish
11-19-2004, 12:50 PM
My guess is Arnold Spofford!;)

RIJIMMY
11-19-2004, 12:54 PM
Are those boone, or boon, something like that? Just a guess

Slipknot
11-19-2004, 01:07 PM
they look really old

MAC
11-19-2004, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
they look really old

Almost as old as Flap:laughs:

Mike P
11-19-2004, 02:08 PM
I actually have the green one on top, but I'll be damned if I can remember who made it :confused:

It's not a Boone or a Spofford.

tlapinski
11-19-2004, 02:13 PM
very similar to the original gibbs. maybe a pichney?

Mr. Sandman
11-19-2004, 03:57 PM
You guys are making me feel old.

You probably have never heard of him. But if you look thru your old "NE fisherman" mags (80-82) and Tim Colemans old striper books he makes mention of him (TC fished with him a lot at BI)

Hints

They were made in 1980 or 81


last hint...
a "quiet" guy from SE CT area

tlapinski
11-19-2004, 04:09 PM
this is buggin me now. i have read Coleman's books a bunch of times, but don't remember the builder though. got any more? my needlefish collection is missing one those no matter who they are! ;)

JKRock
11-19-2004, 04:30 PM
Silent George

Mr. Sandman
11-19-2004, 04:33 PM
BINGO!! You know your needles. wayto go JKRock!

they were called "the silent sand eel"

reelecstasy
11-19-2004, 04:35 PM
shhhhhhh george

bassmaster
11-21-2004, 12:55 PM
how'd I miss this thred:confused:
Dang I got to take the camera in the cave
I got needles from the 70's:D

SBASS1
11-23-2004, 01:13 PM
I have one :)

DZ
11-24-2004, 01:49 PM
Going to do a "Needlefish History" presentation on January 20th in Newport. Will be open to all interested fishermen. Stay tuned for details. Special thanks to Sandman for providing more info for my presentation.

DZ

Tagger
11-24-2004, 03:50 PM
Not Bob Hahn ??? he make a needle ?:confused:

NIB
11-24-2004, 09:41 PM
i have some gags needles wood ones in the pacjkage.i have hahn needles also.My friend turned them in the seventy's on a giant metal lathe.some would just get the flame treatment very deadly.

Flaptail
11-25-2004, 06:36 AM
Gags is going to surprise us all again this spring with the re-issue of some old wooden lures, They are long and thin and stripers love them. Bliz it looks like he changed his mind!:D

Karl F
11-25-2004, 09:33 AM
Flap, got a couple for you.. Cape needle lore... ever here of the "Need-Eel", or the Nauset Needle? both circa 60's...The first one I think actually was sold, the other was homemade, and copied by those that could... I've been pickin some of the old-timers brains on needles, they remember versions of them in the 50's, used with success especially near the "old" Chatham inlet.

Mr. Sandman
11-25-2004, 12:31 PM
who made these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36153&item=7116288724&rd=1

MAC
11-25-2004, 12:35 PM
Looks like Bob Hahn to me

MAC
11-25-2004, 12:39 PM
forgot the picture

justplugit
11-25-2004, 01:31 PM
Ya Mac,i think your right.The yellow one is defenitely a Hahn color.

bassmaster
11-25-2004, 11:19 PM
eastmans use to have a wall of hans, i have the same needle hanging up.
we use to split his lures open on rocks:D but it was a change from the gibbs so they was nice to have, the cedar ones that is
Karl I got some old cape needles here:D

Chris in Mass
12-08-2004, 07:37 PM
Found this one in the wash this year? The eyes appear to be glass or some type of sequin (pin hole in the middle). On the nose, paint was green on top and red on the bottom. Can you tell if this is a custom or factory producecd? Just curious.

Oops - Is that a MurEel in the background :cool:

tynan19
12-08-2004, 09:31 PM
So for those plugs would 44.00 be worth it. The winning bid was high.

bud8fan
12-08-2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by tynan19
So for those plugs would 44.00 be worth it. The winning bid was high.


I am going to say yes because VB knows his stuff.........
either that or they were something that was missing in his enormous collection.......:cool:

tlapinski
12-09-2004, 08:24 AM
$20 a piece for those? easily worth it if you don't have any in your collection like me. friggin' VB..... :smash:

Flaptail
12-09-2004, 09:42 AM
Karl you got me on those. Are you sure it wasn't called the "needle-eel" I remember hearing something about those but could be what you mentioned. I remember showing that little red head six inch needle to a couple guys I knew one night at the Old Bass Run tackle shop. One was a guy who had a Jeep Grand Wagoneer ( what we referred to as a Cape Cod Cadillac as anybody who was well heeled in those days on Cape drove one) who used to fish Nauset with his son alot. He was a native and he hung out at Tony C's shop when he first opened it. The guy hung a lot of nice fish off Bass Run's outside rack. I remember him mentioning a "needle-eel" when I showed him the plug.

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:08 AM
worth every cent :)
Toby, what do you want ? I still owe you
VB

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:11 AM
this is the best needle I have found to catch fish 2 date! :)
VB

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:13 AM
boone mix

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:14 AM
spofford's and a Tony Sr needle

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:15 AM
lex

tynan19
12-09-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by tynan19
So for those plugs would 44.00 be worth it. The winning bid was high.

Just wondering because of the discussion from before about the price of vintage plugs.

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:30 AM
One of the first needles made by Floyd Roman or anyone else !
early 1940's

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 10:32 AM
Flaptail,, the roman needles are called "sandee"

Mr. Sandman
12-09-2004, 10:36 AM
WOW...they are old. Nice collection. Have you spoken to DZ? I am sure he would like to talk to you about them.

tlapinski
12-09-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by vineyardblues
this is the best needle I have found to catch fish 2 date! :)
VB what are those?

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 11:13 AM
Toby, they are called island lures 1.1/2 oz made in Fairhaven Ma
Got them about 10 years ago. So I am not sure of how old they are.
VB

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 11:15 AM
Talk about old !!!!!!!!!!

Not a needle but dam close ! Good old cape cod lures in the early early box with the wings on it

VB

tobias
12-09-2004, 11:32 AM
Hey VB - I know of two people who have some Hahn needles that you don't have in your collection. Guess who:D

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 11:37 AM
send them please :)
vb

Flaptail
12-09-2004, 12:12 PM
VB, I remember when you could walk into Red Top and they had litterally buckets of Sandee's for sale in the old tackle specials bins. Nice stuff. That leather thing is way cool. Never saw one before.:D

DZ
12-09-2004, 12:38 PM
Thanks Vineyardblues - some really neat stuff. Thought Norris made the first needle on the Cape maybe not. Sent you a pm for some additional info.

Tattoo
12-09-2004, 06:48 PM
VB,

Is this a Roman?

Tattoo
12-09-2004, 06:49 PM
From Murat's Tackle shop when they went out of business.

Tattoo
12-09-2004, 06:50 PM
Looks like a Hans, but with three belly weights. Anyone know who made this?

vineyardblues
12-09-2004, 08:09 PM
yes that is a Roman,
And yes u r a dog

VB

Biteme
12-09-2004, 08:14 PM
VB, did they make those smaller Romans in plastic? I have the same one in wood and several in plastic.

bassmaster
12-09-2004, 10:28 PM
give me them needles both of You:smash:

tlapinski
12-10-2004, 06:45 AM
Biteme - yes they made some in plastic.

Biteme
12-10-2004, 05:35 PM
I have had this wooden needle for a long time. Any ideas what it could be?

Breezy
12-10-2004, 05:42 PM
its pregnent!

Biteme
12-10-2004, 05:52 PM
Or how about this crazy jointed thingy? I think somebody called it a Tomcat

capesams
12-10-2004, 05:54 PM
it's used to catch a male platapuss...that's misses puss.

ThrowingTimber
12-10-2004, 06:51 PM
Anyone know who made this trumpet fish?

ThrowingTimber
12-10-2004, 06:52 PM
close up of the belly

steelhead
12-11-2004, 10:00 AM
???

Biteme
12-11-2004, 11:14 AM
:laughs:

Mr. Sandman
12-11-2004, 11:33 AM
Don't laugh to hard at the bic needle...I bet it would out fish a lot of lures.

Pete F.
12-11-2004, 04:59 PM
How would you put a center hook on it? I can think of a spot where a clear one would be a killer.

capesams
12-11-2004, 05:09 PM
Steelhead.......leave the head on the pen....just behind where the head meets the body put a black eye on[marker] then drill two holes close to the center,,,one for the belly hook and the other for a drop of lead...drill through the lead so your wire will pass through that lead and keep it in place,,no need to poxy the lead hole;)

steelhead
12-11-2004, 06:10 PM
Hey CS, I was wondering about the belly hook as I was putting it together. Thanks for the how to and where :-) This one started out with the point, but it broke as I was wrapping the wirter at the rear. Next one. Going to have sneak a few more from the wife's pocket book.

Should the lead go behind the belly hook so it rides a bit nose up?

capesams
12-11-2004, 07:16 PM
:D

steelhead
12-11-2004, 07:50 PM
Found an old clear one. Not one of those new cheap ones....
Maybe I'll color it with transparent magic marker.