Holy crap what a crazy brawl during the Pacers/Pistons game tonight. I have never seen anything like that! Just got home and saw the hightlights and un freakin believable. Detroit fans should hang thier heads in shame and never be aloud into the arena to see a game again. I usally rip on the NBA players for being thugs but for once i will stick up for the Pacer players. They had every right to defend themselves from those ******* fans in Detroit. I hope they arrest every damn one of those drunks. What a bunch off ********* in Detroit. Hey Detroit, maybe a little police presence next time. Little kids thowing stuff at the players too:( Guess thats the NBA crowd for you.


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Just another example of how far the NBA has fallen since the 1980's and before. They are a league without class.

Skip, you mean that Artest had a right to go into the stands to punch a fan? I would have to disagree with that, strongly. I think if you were sitting in the stands with your kids you would agrgee with me. A fan throwing things at players is a security problem, not one that the players deals with. There is never an excuse to go into the stands.

It won't be long anyhow, the NBA ia facing their own lock out next summer, yeah, and who will take notice if they don't play????

Not me. Haven't cared since the 86 Celtics. What the heck happened to the game. Its just sad.:(

Guess who plays Christmas day, Pistons/Detroit.

I think it will be a very merry christmas for the fans who took the punches (the fat kid with the Pistons shirt who got clocked will do very well)

This episode still pales in comparison to Terry O'Rielly climbing over the glass, punching a Rangers fan saying " Think you've got your moneys worth"

Originally posted by fishsmith
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This episode still pales in comparison to Terry O'Rielly climbing over the glass, punching a Rangers fan saying " Think you've got your moneys worth" [/B]

or mike milbury beating the guy over his with his own shoe!!

nba--- thugs, potheads, posse folk.... no thanks

Yeah, all set here with the NBA! Just a "gang banga" mentality! Thugs and drug users....if they were not in the NBA they would be in prison! All of sports is on a slide folks most importantly the NBA! They need to institute stronger punishment methods for this crap and let me also say the gang mentality in the stands made it worse than it should have been.....something like that erupts close to the stands and there will always be those few fans who feel the need to get themselves involved by shouting racial slurs or throwing something into the fray and then it just proliferates from there with other fans thinking "hey, why not join in?"! Basically it is another example of not just how far sports is falling but how far the human race is falling even more so! Take a look around folks....the riot type atmosphere after a championship game? Riots, looting....and death as a reult of what should be joyous celebration? Did anyone see that young boy crying in the stands being held by his brother at the game last night after the fracus?:( Those people, players and fans should be ashamed of themselves but even more so, people as a whole need to take a step back and take a check of their behavior and climb a couple more steps up the evolutionary ladder! I myself am an inch away from staying away from all sports as they are not a good source of inspiration and relaxation anymore! As for the NBA....all done with that game! It is a joke across the board!:af:

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Sorry Mike, Wont happen again

The dude who was on the court causing trouble deserved what he got. How is that any differert than a fan running out on the baseball field looking trouble and endangering the players. You go on the court/field you should expect to get pummled. You clearly saw him square up and want to fight Artest. he got what he deserved. Screw him, i hope he doesnt get a dime. Should be interesting to see how fans ge proscuted. Even palyers for that matter. But like I said, i blame the fans for this one. If someone throws something at me and i know who did it...Its on. Thats called selve defense. Even the cop interviewed by ESPN said the same thing. You have every right to defend yourself. I see your point about restraining ones selve but Artest was all jacked up after the fight on the floor with Wallace and the fan was just looking to entice him and start crap. It worked, and the fan got the crap kicked outta him.

They still play basketball. J/k I watched the fight it reminded me of the movie slapshot when the Chiefs jumped into the stands to fight. :smash:

basket ball is going down the toilet.

Originally posted by pete santini
basket ball is going down the toilet.

Basket ball has been in the toilet for quite a LONG time!!!
Just look who are some of the stars in the league,
guys like Alan Iverson!!!
Just like Bigfish said, a bunch of thugs who would be drug dealers or in prison for some other reason!!!

Originally posted by Skip N
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Sorry Mike, Wont happen again

No problem. :D

There has been talk of a lock out in the NBA next season..if it happens hopefully it will wake up some of these premadonas..If it wasnt for basketball half of them would be in jail..:rolleyes: :af:

Originally posted by Skip N
The dude who was on the court causing trouble deserved what he got. How is that any differert than a fan running out on the baseball field looking trouble and endangering the players. You go on the court/field you should expect to get pummled. You clearly saw him square up and want to fight Artest. he got what he deserved. Screw him, i hope he doesnt get a dime. Should be interesting to see how fans ge proscuted. Even palyers for that matter. But like I said, i blame the fans for this one. If someone throws something at me and i know who did it...Its on. Thats called selve defense. Even the cop interviewed by ESPN said the same thing. You have every right to defend yourself. I see your point about restraining ones selve but Artest was all jacked up after the fight on the floor with Wallace and the fan was just looking to entice him and start crap. It worked, and the fan got the crap kicked outta him.

Yeah, Skip, but Artest had NO IDEA who threw the object at him! He just went into the stands swingin' at the first guy he could get ahold of. He was lying on his back looking up when that cup of beer hit him, he didn't know who threw that. Self defense, but from whom?

The Detroit fans who acted out like this are dirtbags for sure... Anyone of us would be angry if some low-life scum bag throws something at you, but when you're a professional athlete being paid what... 8, 10, 12 million a year... you cannot bite the hand that feeds you no matter what. :D

Take the NBA, and the NHL for that matter, and flush 'em! :laughs:

Down the toilet...Consider them both flushed..I am totally disgusted..:af: :smash:

"Take the NBA, and the NHL for that matter, and flush 'em! "

I'll agree with you on that one!:D

You guys see So. Carolina/Clemson?? The service academies and Ivy League are the only class organizations left. New school athletes ain't worth watching.:af:

And what's with the blue football field at Boise State?:smash:

Stump Merrill likes blue!:laughs:

I hear the Sox voted Stump a half-share for scaring Francona and waking him up. He started making better decisions when he knew Stump was watching in the wings.:pop:

sign of the times no one cares about anything anymore you guys are right alot of them meatheads would be in the can or dead if it wasn't for basketball and this is the way they repay the fans the ones who really pay there salary. Is it our fault for letting them get away with all this?

boy , i miss the magic and larry days. back then you had a few thugs; moses, rodman, barkley, dawkins, mcnasty. you could count them on two hands. now the punks rule the nba and are ruining the game. can you say ghettoball assoc.

They handed out some pretty hefty, and justified, suspensions today! Artest is out for the remainder of the season....2 others got 25 and 30 game suspensions and one guy from the Pistons got suspended 6 games!:happy: I guess you can pretty much count the Pacers out of the postseason!:laughs:

This Artest guy is the one who didn't want to play so he could record a music album:smash:
Now he can:laughs:

Is that the same guy Ron?:eek: Bet he ain't wearin' a Pacers uniform next season!:wave:

I bet he will be watching from......he he...:hihi:....the stands! :laughs: :bl: :laugha:

Originally posted by BigFish
Is that the same guy Ron?:eek: Bet he ain't wearin' a Pacers uniform next season!:wave:

I bet he will be watching from......he he...:hihi:....the stands! :laughs: :bl: :laugha:

According to ESPN, it's him :laughs:
What kind of album do you think he's going to make,
Gangster rap :laughs:

Nope! Gangsta Crap!:happy: :laughs:

might be a good time to make a blues album.

Artest and his buoys gonna be makin' a "rap" sheet!:D

WHOOSH down the crapper it goes.
I watched the celts play a great game yesterday. But all the
talk was about the brawl. Kinda took away from a good game.

I agree,
The sport has flushed itself. Started with that POS Rodman.
Then to the rapist Bryant. so on and so on. Now this,,, what great example for the "city" kids who live by the round ball.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thugs and drugs.......how nice.

Thank god for football.......:D

i think that the persona of the nba is rapidly distancing itself from its major fanbase. ( not to sound racist ) but white males over 30 seem to make up the majority of sports fans. the league is killing itself by promoting this gandsta rap image, which appeals to a very limited number of fans- inner city and very young impressionable fans. if they don't clean it up... so long nba. i lost interest a few years back.

Daniel Stern needs to step down if you ask me...not just because of this incedent, but because the game has been sliding down the pooper for quite awhile! While Stern is responsible for bringing the game of basketball to its highest height (with help from Larry, Magic, Michael and others) he has also been the Captain of this sinking ship! Maybe a change and some fresh direction is in order?:confused:

The NBA doesnt care about its image....They are making $$ so why do they care? As long as fans are coming out and the NBA is making money i doubt they care. Plus if they get to the root of the problem wich we all know is the gangsta/ thug image they will be billed as racists. So they cant win even if they do try and change the image. :smash:

Originally posted by Van
WHOOSH down the crapper it goes.
I watched the celts play a great game yesterday. But all the
talk was about the brawl. Kinda took away from a good game.

I agree,
The sport has flushed itself. Started with that POS Rodman.
Then to the rapist Bryant. so on and so on. Now this,,, what great example for the "city" kids who live by the round ball.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thugs and drugs.......how nice.

Thank god for football.......:D

Van,
Football has it's share of thugs also,
Ray Caruth, Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, Ricky Williams, just to name a few!!!

Some people listen to to much sports radio.

Anyone know if Larry Bird is still involved with this team (Indiana)
It would be amazing that a guy like Larry Bird with so much character and class would have such a thug like Artest on a team he was involved with:smash:

unfortunatly it's about one thing only..........just win baby!!!!

Heard the GM of the Pacers (Bird) commenting on the suspensions on the radio.....:smash:...he sounds as if he believes the players are being railroaded!!!:eek: I think Bird is wearing a suit now and has someones hand up his back!:laughs:

They had the "cup thrower" on the news this morning with his lawyer. This POS was caught on tape, but won't admit it.
Anyway, the other POS Artest was keeping it cool on the table cause he was too cowardly to go after his real problem WALLACE.

So when he gets hit with a cup, he goes postal and attacks some little guy in the stands (who is still holding his cup)....

They have tape of the real thrower getting in a few rabbit punches from behind cause' he's "protecting himself".
Gimme a break, they are all a bunch of cowards. (he said safely behind his keyboard)....
Artest has gone through anger management before, and needs a marathon session.

Stern did the right thing, hopefully it will help. BB is way out of control..

It gets better, the POS has 4 dui's and isn't supposed to be drinking while on probation, (but he has seats a few rows from the court :smash: he must of went to the judical system for the rich).
Good to see him squirm now.

Bigfish - as GM Bird is in a tough spot (and on a pedastal secured from critism that is reserved for all great Boston athletes) Putting the Pacers team on the floor now is like running a gas station with no gas.

you can't say football is any better than basketball thug-wise. just as many if not more in football, only they get to act out their aggression on the field.

i hate to say it too, but the NBA is a friggin joke. you got all these thugs coming out of high school who can barely read and write,who have agents telling them that they will be the next kobe or tracy, when in reality most of them will not be stars or even role players in the league. as a result you have a lot of athletically gifted teens coming into the league who can't even make a free throw, thus taking away from the overall quality of play. as a huge fan of the game it is really disheartening to see the direction the NBA is heading in.

colleg b-ball, on the other hand, is the sh*t....

Blame Jordan. For all the excitement he brought to the sport, MJ made the game about the superstar and not the team rivalry.

And what Bart said...

-spence

Go back further and blame Cassius Clay. The downfall of pro sports started with him screaming at Sonny Liston when he knocked him down. Then Cosell turned him into a circus act and the rest is history.

They had the player and his rep from the Player Assoc. on yesterday, and these idiots had the audacity to blame the WHOLE thing on society, and the war in Iraq.
Instead of taking his lumps and acknowledging his resposibility, this piece of crap is mugging for the camera and try to pitch his CD.
This just goes to show that in professional sprorts, if you bring in the fans, you can literally get away with murder. Then when you are caught red-handed, you sheepishly blame society and move on. I hope the fan that was attacked takes the player, team and the NBA to the cleaners.
On a positive note, we're starting to see move teams take responibility for their actions. How about the college football team that turned down a bowl bid because of the fight on the field?
Just my $0.02 worth.

Tim- South Carolina turned down the Bowl bid because Holtz is retiring now and his replacement, Steve Spurrier, wants no part of a mediocre team in a bowl game. You can bet if they were 11-1 Holtz would have stayed on until January. There was no honor in the decision not to accept the invitation...just the smart move for the school and the two coaches.

That makes more sense. Unfortunately, the news report I had heard was probably given the "politically correct" report. I thought it sounded a little far fetched for a school to turn down a bowl bid.