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11-29-2004, 05:10 PM
Should it be legalized for medical purposes?
View Full Version : Is the Government going to legalize it? quick decision 11-29-2004, 05:10 PM Should it be legalized for medical purposes? bart 11-29-2004, 06:12 PM yes BigFish 11-29-2004, 06:20 PM No!:mad: Vectorfisher 11-29-2004, 06:25 PM In the case of the woman I was watching the other night on TV who could not walk or normally function without it the YES, but there are far too many people who will abuse it so I dunno. quick decision 11-29-2004, 06:30 PM What if the FDA says its ok for medical purposes. I am just throwing it up for discsuion. I am not advicating drug use. BigFish 11-29-2004, 06:32 PM If people need something to ease the pain of an illness....there are other things they can be prescribed......its just an excuse to smoke it!:smash: kippy 11-29-2004, 06:48 PM It's an untapped source of revenue for the government..so I say legalize it.. :smokin: :jump: spence 11-29-2004, 07:10 PM I think widespread medical use is sure to happen. There simply is no credible reason not to. I doubt you'll see the Feds legalizing recreational pot any time soon. Perhaps in a generation. Me, I'm against drug use. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go make another double scotch and tonic :rolleyes: ...hic -spence bart 11-29-2004, 08:18 PM like taking oxycontin/ demaroll/ morphine/percodan is any better for you? Nebe 11-29-2004, 08:33 PM Absolutly without a doubt, marijuana should be allowed for medical use. There are so many bogus reasons for it being illegal in the first place. You can bet your botom dollar that all the big drug companies are lobbying hard to keep it illegal. God gave it to us, why not use it?? NJTackle 11-29-2004, 08:34 PM Legalize it for everyone and tax the hell out of it!!!! :cool: NJTackle 11-29-2004, 08:35 PM Originally posted by kippy It's an untapped source of revenue for the government..so I say legalize it.. :smokin: :jump: Pack of smokes in NJ - $6.50 Pack of smokes in Maryland - $3.00 :confused: Go figure!?!?!? Raider Ronnie 11-29-2004, 08:37 PM Ricky Williams says YES YES YES YES YES YES YES :laughs: BigFish 11-29-2004, 08:53 PM I will just let you guys "hash" this one out!:smash: Slipknot 11-29-2004, 08:56 PM Originally posted by Vectorfisher In the case of the woman I was watching the other night on TV who could not walk or normally function without it the YES, but there are far too many people who will abuse it so I dunno. every drug that comes along gets abused, so what? if it helps then I say why not Nebe 11-29-2004, 09:54 PM Originally posted by BigFish I will just let you guys "hash" this one out!:smash: stoner :smokin: Slingah 11-29-2004, 10:32 PM booze is legal and causes many more problems than weed for medical reasons..legalize it Karl F 11-29-2004, 10:42 PM NJ Tackle, Slingah, Yup, couldn't agree more.... been sellin' booze for 26 years, know all too well the damage, and down side of that stuff, on the other hand, I know people who been smokin chit forever, and don't have the problems, legal, family, or medical, of the heavy boozers, nicer folk to boot!... know one guy in his 80's that still puffs it... Legalize it, tax the chit out it, cripes, costs more to enforce the "law", and it gets broke all the time.... know some people that should take a puff once in a while ;) ;) And if it helps somebody with cancer, or glaucoma, go for it! me, don't do either no more......... too many other things to do! Nebe 11-29-2004, 11:07 PM Anything will mess up your life if you do it too much.. even fishing ! Clammer 11-29-2004, 11:41 PM Y E P CAL 11-29-2004, 11:50 PM I say make it legal. I could be wrong, but doesn't the stuff grown for medicinal use not have the THC in it? Even if not, if it has legitmate benefits it should be legal. Can't do any worse than OC. spence 11-30-2004, 07:57 AM Originally posted by CAL I say make it legal. I could be wrong, but doesn't the stuff grown for medicinal use not have the THC in it? Even if not, if it has legitmate benefits it should be legal. Can't do any worse than OC. Nope, it's full of THC...otherwise what would be the joint, er a point? What's silly is that they extract THC and sell it as Marinol in pill form. They are very strong. So strong you're pretty much a vegetable all day. With the real weed you can regulate your relief very well and stay as productive as possible. Having seen a close friend go through cancer, and having a Mom who's severly debilitated by MS...I think it's freaking absurd that the Government thinks they have any right to limit what they can do to feel better short of suicide. Perhaps it means some fuddy fat white men in Washington are actually going to have to think about addiction behavior and the messages we give our kids. -spence The Dad Fisherman 11-30-2004, 08:27 AM People won't have to go to Canada to save 80% on the script....its pretty much the same price in either country. I think we have a LOT more serious things to worry about as a country than someone sparking one up, especially when someone is suffering through a chemotherapy treatment or from some other disease. besides Drinking + Driving = 20 miles ABOVE the speed limit Smoking + Driveing = 20 miles BELOW the speed limit, and you'll start to slow down because the light is getting ready to turn yellow. ***Disclaimer: Neither one is right, it was just a joke so don't start ripping my head off *** cheferson 11-30-2004, 08:58 AM Dont see what the stink is about, just leaglize it.:smokin: I dont understand why they bust potheads anyway, when coke and heroin are much more available and more damaging. Ive lost more then one friend to heroin and have had many friends who have battled or still are battling coke addiction. I havent had any friends die from smoking a lil herb, or out stealing stuff or selling there body to smoke a joint.:huh: RIROCKHOUND 11-30-2004, 09:01 AM Legalize it... It's one of those things that whether its legal or not people will get it if it helps their illness... like everyone else said, why cant unkie-sam make a few bucks off it.... Now where is my Pikie shaped bong :smash: :D :smash: cheferson 11-30-2004, 09:05 AM Thats another reason they dont want it legalized, cause it would be very hard for the goverment to make any money off its sale. Its hard to tax it when you can grow your own. chris L 11-30-2004, 09:28 AM yes it should with out a doubt ! ThrowingTimber 11-30-2004, 09:52 AM Wont happen cant tax it. You see that lil stamp on the bottom of your cigs? You know how much it would be taxed? You think an 1/8 is steep now, wait til they tax that chit outta that 1/8. Nope wont happen, they cant tax any home grown unless they make it a tax everyone pays yearly and that wont go either....I dont advocate its use either just arguing a point of view :) Flaptail 11-30-2004, 10:56 AM Legalize it period. There are worse things, like alcohol. If they ever do I am going to invest heavily in Hostess Cakes and Drakes bakeries not to mention Nabisco.:D jugstah 11-30-2004, 11:28 AM They should just legalize it. Did you know that herb grown in an acre provides more oxygen to the air than 10 acres of trees? Did you know that herb can be used to make paper, clothes, shoes, etc and could make these substantially cheaper? Strider 11-30-2004, 01:07 PM Yaaaaaa Mannnnn! We be takin doobie snacks :D t.orlando 11-30-2004, 01:21 PM They sure should.....Think of all the cool tye-dye plug patterns. Flaptail 11-30-2004, 01:25 PM It's 100% percent natural. You can't cook it up in a lab using all kinds of nasty chemicals to cut it with. I cruise the court reports in the paper most every night. One guy gets caught drunk driving. He gets 45 day suspension of license, 30 day alcohol couseling, which he has to pay for and it ain't cheap, 350.00 in court costs and a record. Next guy gets caught with some weed. He gets 30.00 court costs and continued without a finding for sixty days after which his records get sealed. The courts know the weed laws are a joke and they should be spending time on more important things. I agree. Let the guy who wants to grow a little patch for his own enjoyment do it and if it helps someone forget the pain and anxiety of a cancer or other dibilitating desease what is the harm? I personally would rather drive with someone who just smoked a joint than drank a six pack. You want to fight drugs then go after the crack dealers and the guys giving ecstasy to kids. The heroin dealers and coke heads. Now those people should be drawn and quartered. NJTackle 11-30-2004, 01:27 PM Would someone please explain to us how different weed is to Tobacco? I really don't see how the government can justify legalizing tobacco and not weed! Think of the similarities? Think of the revenue? Think of the $ saved from drug traffic control? Off topic - while their at it they should also legalize prostitution! And yes, tax the hell out of it! Mandatory health physicals (HIV tests) annually, etc. It would definitely help clean up the streets. NOW - I'm not saying I visit or need prostitution. I'm a happily married man! Trust me.....porn is a multi-million dollar industry and I'm not the pervert here! Skip N 11-30-2004, 01:37 PM Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get. Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it. As if people arent F'ed up enough in this country we should make drugs even more common place?:af: What the heck, crack and coke aint too bad, maybe even heroin next:rolleyes: :af: From what i hear weed is more harmful to your body than cigarates. Just what people need:rolleyes: quick decision 11-30-2004, 01:49 PM y-19 n-3 yesnomabey-1 I think it is probaley in some cases it is easier for kids to get pot than beer or cigs. I think this is bad. I'm not sure if pot was made leagle if it would make it easier or harder for kids to get. People who are looking for a alternative medicine should be allowed to pick the drugs they use. A lot of people over abuse pain killers every day. If pot was leagle, it would be abused to. I dont like the government moderating anything more than is nessesary. I would say yes on medical but no on public use. NJTackle 11-30-2004, 02:14 PM Originally posted by quick decision [B]y-19 n-3 yesnomabey-1 I think it is probaley in some cases it is easier for kids to get pot than beer or cigs. I think this is bad. I'm not sure if pot was made leagle if it would make it easier or harder for kids to get. I agree. You'd be surprised how easy it is. If they are going to try it behind my back, I'd certainly rather have them try weed grown by a pharmaceutical company then some jackoffs basement not know what chemicals he may have used. Simply put - if a parent doesn't know his kid is smoking weed then that child should be taken away from the parent, period! Yes, there should be a strike 1, 2 and 3 or other. My point is there is no way, as a parent, that you can NOT know your kid is smoking weed. Or the he is not building explosives in the basement, guns, over 18 video games - the list goes on and on. Unless of course, you travel 99% of the time and are never around. Then the more important question is who's really raising the child, and are you really responsible enough to have children? Damn...why not make having children illegal. There is no license or qualification for that. You don't have to be a certain age. There is no test. You can have as many as you'd like no matter your financial status. And if you can't afford them, the rest of us will help pay for them! We need to be more responsible for our own actions and not depend on the government or other agency to guide us through the road of life! It blows my stack when society blames society when things go wrong. What is this world coming to when we need huge bold notes on coffee cups stating 'contents may be hot'. That we need to be told that smoking may cause cancer. Drinking & driving impairs your reaction time. You need to buckle up when driving. Guns should be made illegal as they kill, not the people pulling the trigger. And when there isn't something there to remind us so we don't forget to breath (cause, you know, we may forget and drop dead)......we immediately seek legal counsel. I digress....and am going back to work. Need to pay for my kids college fund.... cheferson 11-30-2004, 02:18 PM Originally posted by Skip N Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get. You havent been in a town school system lately, i take it. My friends in High School could score a bag of herb easier then they could get alcohol. Ussally score it right in school too. If they cant keep drugs out of high security prisons, how the heck do they expect to rid a free society of them anyway??? bart 11-30-2004, 02:27 PM i wouldn't go as far as to say its 100% natural. some is, but most isn't. booze and cigs kill more people in this country than anything else, yet they remain legal. i think this one is of the great hypocrisies(sp?) of our time. if it will help someone who is terminally ill feel the slightest bit better why not legalize it for medical use? The Dad Fisherman 11-30-2004, 02:33 PM Originally posted by Skip N Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get. How could it possibly be any easier for kids to get. Right now if they want it they can get it....no problem. At least if it was legal and sold at a store proper ID could be required. Some stores really do ID Kids for Cigarettes and Booze Originally posted by Skip N Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it. Funny there wre a lot of people on this board that want it legal and I don't think they're the Druggie Stoner types. Originally posted by Skip N What the heck, crack and coke aint too bad, maybe even heroin next The big differnce betwwen these drugs and weed is that if you take too much of these you DIE. I've never seen anyone OD on pot before Originally posted by Skip N From what i hear weed is more harmful to your body than cigarates. Just what people need:rolleyes: I agree that if you smoke a Pack of bones a day the same way you smoke a pack of butts, yes it probably is worse for you than smoking....but nobody, in reality, smokes 20 joints a day Big Vern 11-30-2004, 02:33 PM A bag of herb is FAR easier for a high schooler to obtain than any amount of alcohol. Had that very conversation with my cousin on Thanksgiving. The government should legalize the weed and tax the piss out of it instead of spending millions/billions trying to fight it. Turn a loss into a gain in an endeavor that is doomed to fail. If alcohol is legal, weed should definitely be legal. I would feel far safer around someone that is stoned than someone that is drunk. Do people smoke a bone and get into fights? No. Do people smoke a bone and drive fast and out of control? No. Do people smoke a bone and do things they regret? Unless they regretted watching a bad movie, most probably not. Also,I have many friends that have battled the alcohol/drug demons, and I will say that none had any problems with pot. Booze? Yes. Coke? Oh yeah. Heroin? Most definitely. Make the weed legal, tax it, and throw the proceeds and savings into fighting OC's, coke, and heroin. Those are the real problem drugs. Well...those and the worst of all, booze. bart 11-30-2004, 02:45 PM well said DC fishdump 11-30-2004, 02:54 PM Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it. Well I think it should be legalized and I am an engineer with a Master's Degree. So what does that make me? Have you ever had a friend or family member with cancer who has gone through so much chemo and all the pills they given them for nausea have more side effects then the one problem that the pill is "supposed" to be helping with. If something as simple as an herb that can be grown naturally and does not have to be processed or chemically derived can help to lessen that nausea and given them a little bit of an appetite enabling them to eat(yes getting the munchies does help them), then I am all for it. And as others have said tax the hell out of it. t.orlando 11-30-2004, 03:25 PM Used to smoke a lot of ganga and quit pretty easily. Can't quit the butts though.......which one do you think is worse? Pot is not addictive like booze, butts, and hard drugs. Big business is the reason pot(hemp) is still illegal. They stand to lose too much if cheaper products via hemp were made legal. The use of hemp fiber, oil, etc. is well documented and could put a serious dent in some of the Company's that have well paid lobbiests as well as kickback funded govt officials in their pockets. Jimbo 11-30-2004, 04:02 PM I would agree whole heartedly with Fishdump's angle on legalizing it. It took one instance for me to be turned off by it. Good friend apparently bought some pot laced with animal tranquilizers or something, they really don't know, but suspect a crystal or shard of something made it's way into his brain which is about the equivalent of stewed tomatoes now. I tried it a couple times but liked the way a few to many beers made me feel better. Wouldn't hold it against anyone to partake, but I think I'm just too old to think that someday I'd feel comfortable if one of my girls sat there and boned up after a nice Sunday dinner. partsjay 11-30-2004, 04:47 PM Just make it legal. Its everywhere, and its not going anywhere. How many smoking accidents are there? My Aunt was killed by a drunk driver....somebody try and tell my poor Grandmother that booze is no big deal. Anything used in excess is a bad thing, you just have to know your limits. I am a professional beer drinker, but you won't find me driving after I have had some.( or around my grandmother ). Alcohol can take away someone's life very easily, its very addictive. It took my Aunt & almost took my Dad away from me ( he had a long battle with it when I was a kid ), but he beat it. Smoking is no way near as dangerous as that stuff. Surfcastinglife 11-30-2004, 07:00 PM im 19 years old. for the better part of my freshman and sophmore yrs at high school i smoked pot. not with any regularity just occasionally take a puff. some of the kids smoked cigs everyday some a pack a day. weed is dangerous because u really dont know what these drug dealers are doing to it. the pure marijuana straight from the plant is very different. legalize it regulate it with govt agencies, and take this crap off the hands of the dealers. make it 18+ and make sure ur distributing weaker doses. its impossible to overdose from marijuana you would have to smoke an ungodly amount in a short period of time to die. it is a drug yes, but it is only frowned upon because as a society we've been taught to hate it to look upon it as evil. imagine if we all conditioned our kids to hate alcohol, to consider it evil how many lives would be saved? how many 18 yr olds would still be here with us 2day? maybe im wrong, but i can tell you this much. all my friends who smoked weed are still with me most in college, 3 of the ones who drank are buried. maybe we've illegalized the wrong drug this whole time Skip N 11-30-2004, 11:47 PM Stoners Stoners you are all stoners!:laughs: Truthfully i could care less wether they leagalize it or not i guess. If someone wants to smoke that #^&#^&#^&#^& go right ahead and look like the loser that they are. You've all heard the stories....most hard core drug users start with pot and move on to the more potent stuff. If they want to be drug bags hell let them be for all care. Just stay the hell away from me. If legalize it and taxing the crap out of it means i pay less in taxes then what the hell do it i guess. Save me some $$ in taxes maybe:D It will never be fully legalized anyway so its not even worth arguing about!Med purposes it will probably be and thats it. cheferson 12-01-2004, 04:02 AM [QUOTE]Originally posted by Skip N [B] You've all heard the stories....most hard core drug users start with pot and move on to the more potent stuff. [i][quote] I bet before they smoke herb they smoked ciggarettes and drank alcohol. So all these cancer patients in cali smoking herb are gonna start shooting heroin soon to relieve their pain??? RIJIMMY 12-01-2004, 08:58 AM I beleive it is riduculous that alcohol is legal and pot is not. How many people were killed by drunk drivers, fights, ruined marriages, and careers by alcohol? It is one of the most addictive drugs (yes, alcohol is a drug). Pot should be legal. I am suprised that no one has challenged the constitutionality of the govt. telling me I cannot smoke if I want to. As long as I do not hurt anyone, I should be able to take any drug that I want. The argument that pot leads to harder drugs is hilarious. Does beer drinking lead to drinking harder alcohol? All drugs are bad, cafefiene wacks me out. But people should use there own discretion adn teh govt. should enforce this. reelecstasy 12-01-2004, 09:34 AM "Legalize it, and I will advertise it..." seriously, not even one case of anyone dieing from smokin the herb..crazy huh? :smokin: bart 12-01-2004, 09:52 AM "Leeegalize it, don't criticize it" Big Vern 12-01-2004, 10:40 AM Skip...I'm glad someone is listening to the anti-drug ads. However, you are way off base calling every pot smoker a loser and a drugbag. I feel that couldn't be further from the truth. I have a friend who is an extremely successful professional who doesn't drink but smokes weed daily. I can honestly say that the kid has it togther - he's fit, he's successful, has a wonderful family, and he smokes weed every day. He feels it is far more responsible for him to smoke weed than to drink. What is the problem with that? How in any shape or form is he a loser? I don't think you can lump people into your preconceived notions. NaCl H2O 12-01-2004, 11:00 AM Another vote for legalization here.... This quote is from an excellent article on the failings of alcohol prohibition. Almost all of it can be applied to marijuana prohibition. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157.html "Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government spending." Motor Fish 12-01-2004, 12:45 PM Weed is illegal??? :eek: Since when? :confused: Rappin Mikey 12-01-2004, 01:18 PM I, just like Mr. Tosh, say "legalize it". Both sides of the issue have strong supporting arguments. However, if it is alleviating someones pain (physical not mental) that should be the most important issue. I just hope that the people who are throwing stones don't also drink. If they do they are very hypocritical. Skip N 12-01-2004, 02:03 PM " I don't think you can lump people into your preconceived notions." Fine then...."most" pot smokers are losers. You happy now? Geeze get a grip:rolleyes: I hope that dude isnt smoking around his kids or anything at home. Then he would fall into my loser category:D beamie 12-01-2004, 02:06 PM I'm sure some of you are in the same boat I am. I often have to take drug tests in order to keep my job. So......if it were to be past and someone was to take it for medicinal purposes and fail the test what will it become then? This will just lead to more problems and issues. Best not to legalize it. Big Vern 12-01-2004, 02:21 PM Fine then...."most" pot smokers are losers. Skip N...you need to get a grip. Just go ahead and make some more generalizations while you're at it. You can just as easily say most beer drinkers are losers. Jimbo 12-01-2004, 02:53 PM I mentioned before it doesn't really matter to me but I gotta play devil's advocate a little. First, why compare pot to alcohol to make the argument that pot should be legalized? One comment that was made was that pot is not as dangerous as alcohol, which tells me there really should be some concern about one's motor skills or abilities after smoking, but I'm really just not seeing that those two substances should fall into the same boat for the sake of a comparison. Other than medical, is there an argument for pot that stands on it's own merit? Or maybe compare pot to tobacco, but then wouldn't you get into a discussion about legalization that might lead to the government regulating and taxing the industry and you might find that to sell it you had to modify it a little so all joints are created equal in strength, then maybe you have to filter it to ward off the harmful effects of smoke in general and what do you end up with? "Please, sir, give me a pack of Mary-Jane Lights joints." I agree, take the comments like "all users are..." out of a thread like this, but if you're going to support this issue then there's got to be more scientific fact about its advantages or how you see it become legalized and controlled and less "it should be legalized because it's not as bad as X". I'm sure I'm no longer a Bomba Brother in good standing, now, but that's just my take on it. reelecstasy 12-01-2004, 03:09 PM Being a clean cut sheltered guy :rollem: can anyone tell me all of the negatives/cons with Ganja ? I have been reading alot online today on the subject but there doesn't seem to be many negatives/cons to it. Not addictive, not even one single death due to it? Why not make it legal and tax the crap outta it... 179 12-01-2004, 03:30 PM I say absolutely no! To legalize any recreational drug under the banner of pain relief is absurb. The Dad Fisherman 12-01-2004, 03:37 PM Originally posted by 179 I say absolutely no! To legalize any recreational drug under the banner of pain relief is absurb. But to legalize a recreational drug under the banner of recreational use is OK ??? Remember Alcohol used to be Illegal Big Vern 12-01-2004, 03:55 PM By your logic 179, why are cigarettes and booze legal? fishsmith 12-01-2004, 03:58 PM Legalize it. Then sell it at Wal-Mart with dopey looking smiley faces. 179 12-01-2004, 04:15 PM Just my opinion guys. If I recall I am entitled to it :) cheferson 12-01-2004, 04:19 PM Heres a link to The book The Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack herer. Its got the full book available to read on line for free. He lays it all out on the floor from the beginning and backs every thing up 100%. jackherer.com Jack will even give anyone who can prove him wrong $100,000, no one has yet. 179 ,do you think heroin or cocaine have any medical value?? 179 12-01-2004, 04:22 PM "Legalize it, and I will advertise it..." seriously, not even one case of anyone dieing from smokin the herb..crazy huh? Tell that to two of my best friends from HS who died at the ages of 16 and 17 because they were stoned and wrapped their car around a telephone pole. Or maybe tell that to another friend in HS who ran a stoplight while he was stoned hitting a car broadside killing an 11 yro girl.... Yeah pot doesn't harm anyone...what absolute BS. reelecstasy 12-01-2004, 04:23 PM 100k dats alot of pluggage... Big Vern 12-01-2004, 04:29 PM 179...teenage driving deaths are mostly due to driving inepeience. I would lay even money that they may have been drinking as well in either case. Big Vern 12-01-2004, 04:33 PM Also...pot didn't harm anyone in either case. Driving a car did. chris L 12-01-2004, 04:46 PM If you are interested in the non-medical use of drugs in this country, the time to go back to is 1900, and in some ways the most important thing I am going to say to you guys I will say first. That is, that in 1900 there were far more people addicted to drugs in this country than there are today. Depending upon whose judgment, or whose assessment, you accept there were between two and five percent of the entire adult population of the United States addicted to drugs in 1900. mostly to morphine and look today it is a widly used pain killer . weed could do the same to those that need the use of weed for pain or being able to eat from kemo treatments . anyone against it may never had anyone really sick from cancer . It helps make life bearable for the patient . as far as it being leagal for rec use . NO it would raise the price to high due to taxation , and the quality might suffer . remember the question was for medical use ! reelecstasy 12-01-2004, 04:46 PM Originally posted by Don Corleone Also...pot didn't harm anyone in either case. Driving a car did. exactly......179 I also lost 5 very very close friends in high school, so I understand your feelings, but to attribute it, or even blame it on pot, that doesn't cut it to me. Driving inexperiance, poor judgement and lack of respect for a lethal weapon (car)...all can be lumped into that...Just MHO.......been there, done that......... Nebe 12-01-2004, 05:10 PM This thread was started as a question of wether or not pot should be legalized for medical purposes.... There is no question that it should be legalized. Cocaine is used for medical purposes, so where is the logic that pot shouldnt? Its this type of thinking that blows my mind, but I've come to learn that I shouldnt be surprised, i mean look at whose in the oval office. :smash: welcome to Dumb#^&#^&#^&#^&istan chris L 12-01-2004, 05:15 PM why pick on stan he doesnt even smoke pot 179 12-01-2004, 06:44 PM Guys I blame the deaths I mentioned above solely on the poor judgement of the drivers who were impaired by the pot. They were stoned and not drunk when the accidents happened, the driver who hit the car broadside was arrested for possesion. My point is these guys chose to get into their vehicles and drive while they were high resulting in 3 deaths and countless ruined lifes for their families and friends. Was the high worth it? Next time you decide to light up and hit the road think about the stories I just told you. My fear is once it is legalized for medical use what's next? Would you be happy with it being sold at cumberland farms? It's bad enough we have to deal with the endless drunks on the road we don't need another large percentage of the population out there driving stoned because it's legal.... If you want to get high, do it, enjoy it, smoke till your brain dead, just stay the hell off the roads. Nebe 12-01-2004, 07:17 PM good point 179. this situation corresponds with gun control... its not the guns that kill people, its the people who used poor judgement while using those guns. as for pot, I cant speak for everyone else here but I wont touch the stuff, but if it will help someone, why not...:smokin: Clammer 12-02-2004, 12:03 AM good thing you can,t speak for someone else here :rolleyes: Nebe 12-02-2004, 10:46 AM Originally posted by Clammer good thing you can,t speak for someone else here :rolleyes: I will speak for you....... "^$%@#%&$#&%$# booofish!" :hihi: Skip N 12-02-2004, 01:56 PM "Skip N...you need to get a grip. Just go ahead and make some more generalizations while you're at it. You can just as easily say most beer drinkers are losers" :bshake: outfished 12-03-2004, 11:40 AM I was going to say something but I forgot what I was going to say:uhoh: DRMatus 12-04-2004, 08:45 AM Prescription drugs are tightly regulated and if you get caught abusing prescription drugs you go to jail. The same would apply to marijuana if it were approved for medicinal use and rightly so. I'm not current on the debate but I don't really know why we need medical marijuana. What gap would it fill? Despite valild arguments for medical use, it seems like the argument quickly becomes a front for those who would want it legalized for recreational use, as we've seen in this thread. To legalize it for recreational use is to condone its use and we would have a rise in users. How hard is it to get cigarettes when someone can obtain them and transport them legally without fear of prosecution and then distribute them to minors? Alcohol is dangerous, I got that. But lets work on alcohol instead of introducing a new problem. JohnR 12-05-2004, 09:14 AM Yes for medical use only. Some people actually do use it to counteract sides of medication. Now in my opinion it should still be illegal for non medical use. Excessive use of pot can and DOES create imbalances in the brain that leads to other issues. I've seen this firsthand. Smoking pot can and does often lead to the use of other illegal drugs. THAT I can say first hand. I've quit a lot of stuff and the only major monkey on my back is butts and I'm trying to lick that. Because Alcohol is legal, pot should be too? Like the doc said above, work on the alcohol problem instead of introducing a new one. I come from a long line of alcoholics and have been pretty good about keeping it out of my son's life. I can't and won't do to him and my immediate family what was done to generations of my family. This "familt trait" stops here and I don't want another legal choice to be available too. fishweewee 12-05-2004, 09:30 AM 1) Legalize, or at least decriminalize possession of everything. Not just pot and not just for medicinal purposes. 2) Treat drug abuse as a health problem. 3) If legalized, tax and regulate manufacture, sales, advertising and marketing, distribution, and possession of recreational drugs. 4) Clearly establish standards and safeguards for legitimate recreational drug distribution channels. 5) Impose a mandatory death penalty for anyone intentionally and willfully operating outside of #4. Moose Nuckle 12-05-2004, 09:35 AM I can see the Tax's on this being higher than Cigarettes. cheferson 12-05-2004, 05:14 PM Definetly gotta legalize it for medical use. I dont think anyone can actually say the on going war on drugs has done a bit off good, from marijuana to heroin. They need to change their stance on this, more education and treatment. Drugs being illegal makes a black market, profits for criminals, criminals with guns, murders. If they cant keep drugs out of high security prisons how do they ever expect to keep them out of people homes in a free society? The price of hard drugs has dropped , while the purity has soared! 1981 1 gram of heroin $329, IN 2003 IT WAS $60. Cokes prices have dropped 14% in just the last year, lowest prices in 20 years. Hard drugs are now more readily available in higher purity then ever before! WHy waste another 3 billion in columbia??? Why not take that 3 billion and start aggresive treatment and education programs?? I toatlly agree with everything fishweewee has said. Just because crack or heroin was legal doesnt mean , people would run out and start shooting up and smoking. vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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