surfster protos 3 types of lips

nother view
the white plug changes colors..............

sweeeeet!!!!!!:D

Bam! new BM plug! I fished the proto for a few years on bass and blues.......

any cup to the popper face, or just diaganol cut?

dey be nice lookin!

Cool, I'll take the bottom one:D

Very squiddyyy...
I know where they're going to be fished....
:-)

Karl those are round nose and gonna be My signature plug to sell.......
and thanks guys:)

Cool.

Those are bitchin... but what about the old style??

copy time:D

may di them to.
you got one of the original protos i thin and the wire hole was back on that one I think. I moved wire foward and play'd with weighting and then beet the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of it on bass and blues,
those ones You see are long like 7 to 8" and they smoke the hell out of a pencil popper and are very easy to work.
I put my time in on these plugs as You know a few years.......

AWSOME!!!!

those pencil thingys are unbelieveable.

I want that second from top silversides. NOW! Cool stuff BM! I'm theivin' those designs, ya know.:D

Bam:D ya kicked it up a notch:btu: Didn't think it could get any better.When they goin on sale:huh:

maybe in the spring. depends I may start turning bodys next month.

:kewl:

:huh:why do you post those? :huh:
so you can whine when others copy? :D or so you can share? :)

plugs look OK, but the paint makes me want to barf:yak6:NOT!

Nice work Bubba :btu: :hihi: :kewl:

Bernzy

Originally posted by Slipknot
:huh:why do you post those? :huh:
so you can whine when others copy? :D or so you can share? :)

He just can't HELP himself.He's MENTAL. he showesd them to everybody already anyways.i already made a dozen of my own.Beatiful work i like the mustard turd one very good color here.

:kewl: plugage. How do those pencil things sit in the water?

Jigman

good show ol' chap. more material for my screensaver.:happy:

You know, the best way to show how great a plug catches is to have someone, who is relatively new to the sport, catch on them.

Being a novice myself i will be happy to volunteer my services to help you prove thier fish catching prowess. Just send them to me and i will put fish on them. :D

Originally posted by Jigman
:kewl: plugage. How do those pencil things sit in the water?

Jigman

His reference to pencils seems to :confused: everyone, even you Jigsy... the front loop position and body style should tell you it's more like a zara than a pencil.

K.I.S.S., BM... purdy.:claps:

Originally posted by PASurfer
His reference to pencils seems to :confused: everyone, even you Jigsy... the front loop position and body style should tell you it's more like a zara than a pencil.


Thats what I was thinking too, but you never know ;) BM speak still :confused: me :smash:

Jigman

It's based on a couple years of cut and try. I can vouch for Bassmaster on this one I have seen this one evolve. It's not a pencil and it's not a Zara. It owes it's heritage to a Reverse Atom action. Dave has been working on this a while and it's his design based on a few qualities of different classic plugs. The only thing wrong with posting them is that someone will now rip -off the design and be putting them out in every color and pattern and posting "loookey what I did" without crediting Dave for his year or so of work putting it all together. I have no problem with someone copying someones work but I do have a problem when they do not acknowledge the original builder.;)

Well said Flaptail, and you can bet somebody is already spinning a prototype.:smash:

Originally posted by Flaptail
The only thing wrong with posting them is that someone will now rip -off the design and be putting them out in every color and pattern and posting "loookey what I did" without crediting Dave for his year or so of work putting it all together. I have no problem with someone copying someones work but I do have a problem when they do not acknowledge the original builder.;)

Well put Flap.

Credit to Dave for taking an idea and being creative enough :think: to make it his own.:kewl:

Bernzy

Yes well said Flaptail, Someone will post one in a day or two :smash:

I turned a couple hundred this morning!:laughs:

Still say the picture looks more like a zara then a pencil OR reverse atom, Flap. :p But I get where you're coming from.

dave the yellow paint is way cool... good luck

vb

its a Prancer. They been around along time :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Krispy
its a Prancer. They been around along time :rolleyes:
show me a pic
what the %$%$%$%$ I work a few years on a plug and now im told what it is.
how quick we forget about plugs and who was doing what and putting time in.
no i didnt invent the wheel im just trying to make the %$%$%$%$ing thing square thats all........

It's true now that I just came up from the cave it does resemble an Arbogast Prancer. The Prancer had an external lead tail though. This version, BM's, is slightly thinner now than the ones I saw him test and that Prancer is thin as well. I would chock that up to coincidence.:D

All the "props" to you BM...you da man!;) You do nice work and you put alot into your plugs.:btu:

Originally posted by Flaptail
It's true now that I just came up from the cave it does resemble an Arbogast Prancer. The Prancer had an external lead tail though. This version, BM's, is slightly thinner now than the ones I saw him test and that Prancer is thin as well. I would chock that up to coincidence.:D
flap post a pic? does the plug have a round nose?
you seen that plug i think 32 or 3 years ago so You seen it evolve.
why are there so many %$%$%$%$%$%$%$s out here?

Dave, I do not have a pic but I know the Arbogast plug well as I had a couple but they are long gone now. Your plug, by shear coincidence, looks a lot like it but there are disimilarities as well. The eye loop was in the same place and the action was the same as well as the plug dimensions ( lengthxwidth). The Prancer hasn't been made in 25 years at least.:)

could this be it? http://www.byronsantiquelures.com/prancer.htm

what the %$%$%$%$ does that thing have to do with what i made
jesus chris all %$%$%$%$ing mity

Originally posted by Flaptail
Dave, I do not have a pic but I know the Arbogast plug well as I had a couple but they are long gone now. Your plug, by shear coincidence, looks a lot like it but there are disimilarities as well. The eye loop was in the same place and the action was the same as well as the plug dimensions ( lengthxwidth). The Prancer hasn't been made in 25 years at least.:)
thanks. I really want to see one now

i think they look pissa!!
i'd like to troll one of those surfsters way back on wire in a certian channel in boston. way too deep for anyone else:D like cod deep.
or on a 3 way with about 16 oz when the tide is rippin' 4+kts and tears up the live bait. those would kill.
i notice a little marbly freaky paint there too. very nice:)

Who cares ???
It's a cross between a fred Arbogast Prancer/ dasher and a
Smithwick Wood Devils Horse Prancer Fishing!
SEnd me one so I can get a better look please.
Ho Ho
VB

Hi VB.;) Hi freak:)

The top one in yellow and black reminds me of a Panzer tank from WWII.

-spence

Originally posted by spence
The top one in yellow and black reminds me of a Panzer tank from WWII.

-spence
cool now im a nazi:laughs:
all you need to do is break up the solid color with black paint actually. the mack may have its times but as a fisherman the above is all you really need

Got two prancers one from the beach and one from the welfoot flea. Their action sorks! BM's wood definately don't sork. if ya can keep thebloos away:( I really don't see much resemblance between those two lures:confused: Panzer Mac, I love that name.

Dave you should keep the plugs stashed away in the man cave because some here are jealous..
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Bernzy
Nice work Bubba :btu: :hihi: :kewl:

Bernzy :devil:

Jealous :rolleyes: gimme a break :D Everyone knows me , knows Im busting on BM. He knows it too. Just some fun :smash:

krissy You got a pic of one of those plugs?
I doubr there any thing like what I have made as size and weighting go.....
i told You you suck:D

I've been following this discussion and in fairness to BM offer the following suggestion. As an independent observer I will be willing to provide my services. Just send me one sample of each color of the new plug in every size available and I will carefully analize weigh and field test them for you.
In six to eight months I'll give you a detailed written report.
This should help to avoid and eliminate any possible claims of patent infringement or copy catting .
Since it is Christmas time I will forgo my usual fee for this important service.
Happy Holidays to all
Dan;)

BM nice work...anyone that puts that kind of time in and effort deserves some props...credit where credit is due...:kewl: