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Saltheart
10-19-2001, 05:25 AM
How come spinners usually come with a spare spool but conventional reels don't?

Tattoo
10-19-2001, 05:31 AM
Yeah, and how did Murphy get his own Law anyway?

LINESIDES
10-19-2001, 07:45 AM
Tat,
This is an easy one. It is because, all of this “STUFF”, happened to him. They felt so sorry for him, that they named a law after him.
MURPHY'S LAWS
1. Nothing is as easy as it looks.
2. Everything takes longer than you think.
3. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
4. If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong. Corollary: If there is a worse time for something to go wrong, it will happen then.
5. If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.
6. If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop.
7. Left to them selves, things tend to go from bad to worse.
8. If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.
9. Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
10. Mother nature is a bitch.
11. It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
12. Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first.
13. Every solution breeds new problems.
Murphy's Law of Research
Enough research will tend to support your theory.
Murphy's Law of Copiers
The legibility of a copy is inversely proportional to its importance.
Murphy's Law of the Open Road:
When there is a very long road upon which there is a one-way bridge placed at random, and there are only two cars on that road, it follows that: (1) the two cars are going in opposite directions, and (2) they will always meet at the bridge.
Murphy's Law of Thermodynamics
Things get worse under pressure.
The Murphy Philosophy
Smile . . . tomorrow will be worse.
Quantization Revision of Murphy's Laws
Everything goes wrong all at once.
Murphy's Constant
Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value

;)

Fishpart
10-19-2001, 08:07 AM
Back to the original question:

Pure speculation, but it is usually much harder to change the spool on a conventional than on a spinner. Between the tools required in most cases and the clearance between the side frame and the spool lip it could be quite difficult especially if you want to switch spools to get back in the game after an explosion...............

I can just see myself searching for a lost brake block in the rocks along the ditch:confused:

chris L
10-19-2001, 08:12 AM
I would like one just for the ease of changing line size or type ie: mono to braid or visa versa and 20 to 30 # . not on the beach but I could change it out in my truck . even then you have to be carefullof them blocks maybe next year Ill dump the 2 blocks I use now . FREEDOM !

LINESIDES
10-19-2001, 08:20 AM
Salt / Folks,
It never hurts to have an extra spool of line around.
"To many to list".
Penn Jig Master is a conventional reel that comes with an extra spool. Almost any place that carries the reel carries the spools.
I recommend the stainless spool! You want the reel that comes apart at the handle side. They changed the design a few years back. They came apart opposite handle side. Both are quick-change reels, however I think the drags are better on the reels that come apart on the handle side.
This is only my opinion (The normal disclaimer Etc. etc.)
The new ones only come apart handle side. I mention the other reel incase you bump into one at a flea market, or something like that. Extra spools, I carry Two of every thing, Mono, Wire, Lead, Daycron. Plus what ever happens to be on the rods.This does not include plugs. Six Conventional, two spinning, "With Extra Spools.
Later
:cool:

Jaiem
10-19-2001, 08:20 AM
Comes with extra spool??

What make of spinning reel comes with an extra spool in the box????

Got Stripers
10-19-2001, 08:26 AM
All my Shimano Stradic 4000's came with spare spools, one I filled with spiderwire and the other with mono for when I'm chasing the freshwater basses. I've got spare spools for a lot of my conventionals, but I consider it money wasted, since I've yet to ever have a need. It's been forever since I produced a bird's nest I couldn't pick out and usually I'm throwing my plastic on spinning rods.

JeffH
10-19-2001, 08:34 AM
I don't carry spare spools I carry spare reels.

chris L
10-19-2001, 08:51 AM
I carry exrta line , and a spare reel . My nautil 6500 came with 2 extra spools one is not used and one has 14# spiderwire and one with 15# big game .

Jaiem
10-19-2001, 09:09 AM
Guess I should be looking at Shimano's then. ;)

I always carry one extra spool of line in a belt pouch. You never know when you're going to be way down the beach or at the tip of a jetty and get spooled or have to cut back half your line. It's saved the day more than once.

JohnR
10-19-2001, 09:11 AM
My Stradic came with a spare spool so I have 1 with 12# Big Game & 1 with 30/6 Spider...

I haven't had a conventional blowup that I couldn't quickly pick out in a couple years now. I'll bring a spare reel in my bag if I'm going to be far from my truck. Otherwise - I just leave it there...
As far as switching lines and this and that, chances are that if you were going to change your application to require a different line, that change would probably require a diferent action rod anyway, right?

JohnS
10-19-2001, 11:14 AM
Never had a reason to carry a spare spool yet. If I was fishing Fla. that might be a different story.

JohnS

Mike P
10-19-2001, 12:02 PM
Many of the spinning reels give you a spare spool of inferior quality. The higher end Shimru spinners give you two good quality spools, maybe a few others. But they ain't free, a Sustain costs more than a Daiwa Emblem of the same size, where you get a cheap "graphite" (actually mostly plastic) spare spool on the Daiwa. Put that cheap spool on a conventional and you're asking for problems. A cracked spool on a spinner, the rotor will still turn. A cracked conventional spool would probably jam in the frame on the retrieve.

A spare Calcutta spool runs almost $40, for the 400 size. Depending on the model, an Abu 6500 spool runs $20-$25. Outside of Van Staal---which is another story with a spare spool that costs as much as a Sustain reel--the most expensive spare spool I know of is the Daiwa SS Tournament models---$45 a pop.

Mitchell gives you two spare spools with the Nautils---a plastic one of the same size as the aluminum one, and a stupid, useless "large arbor" spool that holds half the line of the others. I didn't buy a 23 ounce reel to fish 12# or 15# test mono on a light rod.

A spare Calcutta 400/Abu 6500 size reel will fit in the side flap pocket of my bag. Lot easier just to swap reels than fiddle with the side plates on the sand, at night. You have a better shot of flushing the sand out of a spinning reel if you drop it in the sand changing spools, than you would with a conventional if you do the same thing.

redcrbbr
10-19-2001, 07:14 PM
seeing how it has been a little while since i have used a conventional reel. which of the two reels would you choose. i plan on using the rod mostly for fishing eels and plugs. the abu 6500CT MAG, or the or the 6500CS MAG.

LINESIDES
10-20-2001, 12:07 PM
Folks,
That’s why I carry eight rods. Don’t have to change reels, rods, or spools. Feeding fish some times won’t hang around long enough to change any thing. But if I blow my lines I do have a “Backup” spool.
Can’t imagine waiting for the fish of a lifetime and not being “Ready” to take it!
;)

JohnR
10-20-2001, 02:29 PM
Crabbr - if your going to get the conventional, get the CS Mag, It'a a level-wind (no need to level the line yerself - this almost always starts the Levelwind-v-non levelwind debate ;) :D :rolleyes: ). It's a very nice reel and with practice, casts a country mile (which helps on ocassion). The only two things you need to do to a CS Mag is swap the drag washers out with Extreme Smoothies and change the handle from a paddle to a power - Mike has both at his shop - probably run you 25-30 bucks or so...

Congrats...

bassmaster
10-20-2001, 07:35 PM
i have a bunch o spare spools,but today i brought 1 rod and 4 reels........
lost my last black supa strike;(

Patrick82
10-20-2001, 11:43 PM
I haven't casted it yet because I don't have a rod for it yet but the 7000 C3 is one beautiful reel. It's very purty. It's gonna be a great reel for my 1201L

bassmaster
10-21-2001, 07:38 AM
i have a 120 1L im choping it down to a 9.6

Patrick82
10-21-2001, 07:56 AM
I'm gonna keep my 1201L at 10 feet I think. The 7000C3 is an awfully big reel and I believe if I leave it at 10, I'll get a nice smoother taper through the guides then at 9'6". I might be wrong but my mind is set up.

Anyways, getting back to the original question. I agree with the fellas that say there are two spools with spinning reels because the spool is easier to change. Frankly, I look at my conventional reel and I have no clue what's inside it. For all I know, there could be a little mouse on a wheel and when I crank with the handle, it drops a piece of cheese in front of it.

I couldn't imagine swapping parts even on my dining room table, neverind trying to swap a spool on a cold october evening using just my petzl.

TheBetterHalf
10-21-2001, 09:58 AM
I'm going to sleep...

bassmaster
10-21-2001, 12:57 PM
Pat , Im sayin that im makin mine 9.6 for pluggin thats all...........

Saltheart
10-21-2001, 07:33 PM
Yes , I'm not thinking about a spare spool for a beach repair , I'm thinking spare spool for different lines that I would decide on ahead of time.
I have Shimanos , Mitchells and ABU Garia spinners that came with spare spools.

Patrick82
10-21-2001, 10:36 PM
Funny, my penn reels, which both ran around 100 bucks came with one spool while my cheap 25 dollar zebco came with two. An aluminum and a graphite spool. It was a pretty sweet reel.