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Patrick82
10-26-2001, 07:04 PM
Okay guys,

Maybe you can suggest a better way to put on line then I already do.

When I put on line this is what I do.

I take my spool of fireline and I reel my line onto my reel. Once I have enough line on my reel, I make an albright knot to my mono. Then I finish up the rest of the space with mono. The reel is PERFECTLY filled with line and backing.

Then, I take the drill and I feed a pencil in the chuck. I put a rubberband on the pencil. I put a bulk spool on the pencil. Then I put another rubberband on the pencil above the spool. The spool is sandwiched inbetween the rubberbands.

Now, I take my reelspool and attach the mono to the bulk spool on the drill. I carefully wrap all the line on the bulk spool. Once all the line from the reel spool is on the bulk spool, I take the bulk spool off pencil. What I have is the SAME amount of line that fit on the reelspool perfectly but it's on a bulk spool. The mono backing is on the bottom and the fireline is on the top.

Then, I take ANOTHER bulk spool and put it on the pencil and replace the top rubber band. I take the bulk spool that is full of the line and tape the line to the empty bulk spool. I then wrap all the line from the first bulkspool to the second bulkspool. Now on the second bulk spool, I have the SAME amount of line that fit on the reelspool PERFECTLY only it's on the bulkspool. Now the fireline is on the bottom and the mono is on the top.

I take the second bulk spool off the pencil and attach it to my reel spool. I carefully wind that line back on my reel spool. What I wind up with is my mono backing on the bottom and my fireline on the top. Since I used my reel spool as a templet to see how much Fireline to put on, then filled the rest with mono, I wind up with exactly the amount of line that will fill the spool without having extra.

Doesn't this make sense?

Oh yeah, Hi Jaiem ;) :D :) :p :eek:

TheSpecialist
10-26-2001, 07:22 PM
You're kidding me right. You have too much time dude.;)

Patrick82
10-26-2001, 07:35 PM
It takes 5 minutes! Swear to god. You get the perfect amount of line on the reel. No guess work. It's perfect.

Do all of you think I'm crazy or something?

Jaiem
10-26-2001, 09:17 PM
There you go again Patty. Posting your "technique" over on the WMI surf board, being told it's a poor approach, now pushing it over here and being told it's the same thing.

Infact, not only that but you took my comments about using a reel spool to measure the line as your own! And what's even worse, first you lambasted my comments then you take them as your own!

And don't try to cover it up. Your comments are there for all to see on WMI.

It wasn't more than a few hours ago you said you were going to change. Now you're doing things again. This has to be a record.

ps- You're just now waking up to the fact that ArtsNFlies is my company?? That makes you the last know.

Jenn
10-26-2001, 09:28 PM
Maybe you can suggest a better way to put on line then I already do.

yeah its called letting the local tackle shop use their fancy machine to put the line on!

I would rather spend the $5 to have them do it than to fuss with it myself.....lazy???? maybe, but it comes out better than when I do it anyway:rolleyes:

patrickswoman
10-26-2001, 10:03 PM
Pushing his technique? I'll repeat Jenn's quote...

Maybe you can suggest a better way to put on line than I already do.

Patrick82
10-26-2001, 10:25 PM
Jaiem,

I'm not stealing your idea about using the spool to measure the line.

That was implied in my first post on WMI. In fact, that's why you put the line on the spool first, to get the properly measured amount of line!

Here is your method. Put the superline on one reel spool, tie your mono on, put the backing on. Take the spool off, put a clean spool on your reel. Load the line onto your reel.

My method is basically the same thing if you DON'T have two spools. Put the superline on the reel, tie your mono. Now here is the kicker. You use the two spools to flip your line. Not just once, but twice. Your method goes from reel spool to reel spool. Since I don't have that luxury I have to go with the two bulk spool method.

And Jaiem, I don't think you quite get my method so could you please not badmouth what you don't understand? If they have further questions on it, they can ask. It does work and it's the best method if they DON'T have the extra reel spool. Thanks

And I've known you are ArtsNFlies for the longest time now. Look at your email address. :)

Mike P
10-26-2001, 10:42 PM
Patrick---it isn't a "bad" method. It's just extra work. I just don't understand why you don't get a 300 yard spool of Fireline to begin with, since it would seem that you're only using the 150 yard spools. There isn't that much difference in price. But, whatever floats your boat. Most reels will hold 250-300 yards of a given test mono---pick a diameter of Fireline that's about the same, spool on just enough mono to give the Fireline something to dig into and grip, and load it up with Fireline. If it's a little underfilled, no sweat. It's better to be a little underfilled anyway with a braid or Fireline. If you have a little left over---again, no sweat. Put it aside and use your drill and empty spool system to "bottom #^&#^&#^&#^& the braid after you lose some, or get some fraying that makes you cut back.

Cabelas and Bass Pro often have end of the season sales where you can get bulk spools of braid at a third or more off their regular price. I know you're not rolling in bucks, but spending $99 to get a 2000 yard spool of 50# Whiplash at one of these sales will save you in the long run. I bought a 2000 yard bulk spool of 65# Whip for $109 in April. Then, you don't have to worry about getting the right amount of backing, and you also don't have to worry about how well you tied your Albright if a big fish runs you past the braid and into the mono.

One other comment from the WMI thread you referred to---the mono that's close to the spool's arbor will have tight memory coils in it if you "reverse" it and run it on top of the braid. Maybe they'll relax and loosen over time, but you might have some problems with them until they stretch out.

Patrick82
10-26-2001, 11:08 PM
Mike,

I do get the 300 yard spools. I use half. Once the front gets worn, I flip the fireline. Once that gets warns, I throw that fireline out and put on the other half. And I do the flipping thing. I completely agree about the mono backing. It holds the memory very well so it does have to be replaced but not as much as if you were using it as your main fishing line because you aren't putting it under as hard use like rocks and tons of UV exposure.

Triet
10-27-2001, 07:34 AM
I've done something similar to what is described. In lieu of a pencil, I use a wife and 2 outfits, one with a big hi-speed Newell and the other with a 6/0.

Line and backing go onto actual fishing reel in reverse order. I'm with you. Then, tie braid onto 5.5:1 Newell, hand actual fishing reel to bored wife, and crank Newell handle. Empties an ABU 6500 fast. Then hand Newell to bored wife and tie line to 6/0 and crank. Important that 6/0 be half-filled first. Lastly attach line to actual fish reel ,and most important, tighten drag on 6/0. Hand 6/0 to wife and crank. When done, you will be sweating like a pig, the star drag on the 6/0 will be hot enough to burn, and the braid will be on TIGHT. Oh yeah, I usually use a t-shirt to guide to braid. One that is already covered with fishing related stains.

This works better for me, because the braid goes on under more tension, and cranking the tiny handle of the actual fishing reel gives me hand cramps after a while.