View Full Version : 4 cylinder Toyota Tacomas?


tlapinski
01-30-2005, 02:43 PM
Does anyone have any personal experience with the 4 cylynder toyota tacomas? I am looking to better my gas mileage. I test drove a 4 cyl 5-speed tacoma this morning. It felt pretty strong for having half the engine of my gas guzzling Durango. I am running 120+ miles each way to where I fish, on top of 79 miles round trip to work 5 days a week. I am really sick of putting out half my paycheck to the gas stations. My mom is on her second straight 4-Runner, with the current one having a bit over 250K on it, but they havd both been 6 cyl's. Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

cheferson
01-30-2005, 02:51 PM
4 cyl s-10's suck, no sack

chris L
01-30-2005, 03:23 PM
I had an 87 toyota 2wdr before they became the tacoma . It was a great truck and had enough balls to tow my 16ft boat . Never a problem with anything major sold it at 246K miles and only cause I needed an extra cab for 2 kids . I used this truck for work and it carried many thousands feet of wire , ladders , payout stands and other assorted tools . Gas mileage was great just dont remember what I got per . maybe 25 highway and 19 or so city .

Im on my 4th toy , you cant go wrong .

Clammer
01-30-2005, 03:52 PM
I had a four stick & A 6 stick before the Tacoma // then when to the Tacoma 4 stick /great on gas /the only time you could tell it was a 4 //uphill with the air on //// I got rid of it because it a was a pain in the !@# to shift ,while looking at street maps , But It was a great truck /// my last two have been 6 automatic,s /milage isn,t that great /but alot has to do with the way I drive //////////

BigBo
01-30-2005, 04:19 PM
I've got an '04 Tacoma Xtra Cab 4x4 with V6 and auto. Highway driving, I'm getting 19-20mpg. City, I'm getting 17-18mpg. I think the 2.7L vs 2.4L has more nuts, but the mileage isn't a whole lot better than the V6 (3.4L).
Did you test an '05? or a used?

tlapinski
01-30-2005, 04:27 PM
I test drove a 2002, 2.7L V4, with 50K, extended cab, 5 speed. they said it gets about 19 / 23 mpg. MUCH better than my durango pulling about 11 / 15. :smash:

Raider Ronnie
01-30-2005, 04:27 PM
I have a 1988 Toyota xtra cab with a 4 cly and 5 speed
You can't kill these trucks!

fishaholic18
01-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Clammer
but alot has to do with the way I drive //////////

Like an animal!!!!:uhuh:

Pete_G
01-30-2005, 06:32 PM
It may only be a 2.7 I4, but it's not pushing around much weight so it moves out pretty well, especially with the 5-spd. If you test drive a 6 though, you'll notice a difference.

My V6 auto Tacoma generally gets around 19mpg, and a friends I4 auto gets a couple mpg better. Mixed driving.

Most people seem to feel the 2.7L 4cyl is a more durable engine then the 3.4L 6, which is saying something considering how many high mileage 6's there are. Such as your Mom's.

Maintenance expenses over the life of the truck are lower with the 4cyl too; it has a timing chain instead of the 6's belt for instance.

If you're planning to run this thing into the ground or pouring tons of miles on it, the stick is probably better then the auto. The auto's aren't known for having problems, I've just never heard of anyone killing a 5 spd without trying to do so.

Lastly, get a 4x4. 4x2 Tacomas are real ugly in the snow.

Nebe
01-30-2005, 06:32 PM
T-

get the 4. More reliable and if your not pulling a boat or a camper, you dont need the extra horses.

Raider Ronnie
01-30-2005, 06:35 PM
I've got close to 100k miles on the origional clutch!!!
But it' started slipping lately so time to replace the clutch!!!

tlapinski
01-30-2005, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Eben
get the 4. More reliable and if your not pulling a boat or a camper, you dont need the extra horses. you have a YO, right? what is yours?

Pete - it is a 4x4. despite the beach driving i do, i can't see why anyone living in NE would get anything else.

thanks for everyone's advice.

Nebe
01-30-2005, 07:17 PM
Yeah.. I have a 96 tacoma LX V-6 extracab 4x4 with oversized sand tires mileage is arond 15 in the city and 20 highway-

I love it, but i dont need the 6 cylinders

TheSpecialist
01-30-2005, 08:58 PM
Toby those new Chevy Colorodos have a 5 cylinder. You get close to the 6cylinder hp, with 4 cylinder gas performance. You could probably get a good payment on one as well.

Clammer
01-30-2005, 09:03 PM
TOYOTA;)

Slipknot
01-30-2005, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by tlapinski
I test drove a 2002, 2.7L V4, with 50K, extended cab, 5 speed. they said it gets about 19 / 23 mpg. MUCH better than my durango pulling about 11 / 15. :smash:

I get 16-19 on my Silverado ext. cab 4x4 8' bed 5.3 lt. motor.

That toy should get closer to 30 with a 4 cyl.:confused:

Vectorfisher
01-30-2005, 09:37 PM
You took the words right outta my mouth Slip my 4x4 F-150 X cab 4.6 V-8 gets 18 MPG highway, not sure why anyone would want half the truck to get 1 MPG more.

Nebe
01-30-2005, 10:10 PM
Toby another plus to a 4 banger is that it will be a tad lighter and will not sink into the sand when your on the beach.

ThrowingTimber
01-31-2005, 06:59 AM
Commuting to fishing is the only reason I got my Tacoma. I have the 4 cyl and I'm very happy with it. Ive never had a situaton where I've felt "underpowered" on the sand, it pretty much handles anything I toss its way :D Im very happy with mine although only being a 4 it does kind of drag its ass when you first get on the highway. Overall Im very happy with how my taco runs :D I wouldnt plan on towing something too heavy though.

tlapinski
01-31-2005, 07:33 AM
TT, I forgot you had one. Is it a standard or auto?

I won't be towing anything with it. The only real weight addition I would be putting on her is a cap. I have seen some pretty light weight alluminum caps. It doesn't have to match like the fiberglass ones to make me happy. I just need a place to lock up an extra rod at a couple places i fish. I wonder how well she'll do with the 55 gallon livewell loaded up in the back though...

chris L
01-31-2005, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Raider Ronnie
I have a 1988 Toyota xtra cab with a 4 cly and 5 speed
You can't kill these trucks!

with a 22E engine ? that engine is killer the body would rot away after years and the negine just keeps on ticking . Just changed the oil and it ran for ever .

Fishpart
01-31-2005, 09:12 AM
My friends just bought a Suburban and it gets better mileage than the Durango they ditched......

I have only heard good things about the Toyota.

Krispy
01-31-2005, 09:19 AM
don't do it Toby! you will never be happy with a 4-cyl. Slipknot is right, your worried about a few mpg for a 50hp difference.
Also, pay up and get the crew-cab.
I got 90k on my Frontier and she runs beautiful and the body is as tight as the day I bought it. You might want to check the Nissans out too.

fishsmith
01-31-2005, 10:20 AM
Toyota trucks rule, just look at consumer reports all red eye's.

tlapinski
01-31-2005, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Krispy
don't do it Toby! you will never be happy with a 4-cyl. Slipknot is right, your worried about a few mpg for a 50hp difference.
Also, pay up and get the crew-cab.
I got 90k on my Frontier and she runs beautiful and the body is as tight as the day I bought it. You might want to check the Nissans out too. but i don't need any of the power in the durango. the smaller truck fits my needs better. i don't have kids, so i don't need seating for them. i don't have anything to tow, so i don't need the towing capacity. all i do is drive a million miles to work and fish. i think this will fit me fine. i'll know tomorrow night if they'll give me enough on my trade for the durango. that is the only limiting factor right now.

Krispy, i test drove several 4 door frontiers. nowhere near the get up and go i wanted. the 5 speed was ok, but the auto's sucked. i test drove a 2004 frontier 4-door right before the tacoma. the frontier felt like a snail. that was the 4th auto frontier i have driven. if i could afforf it, the 3005 frontiers have a ton of power. i am just not willing to shell out for a brand new ride.

reelecstasy
01-31-2005, 11:06 AM
'01 4Runner.......It is easily the best ride I have ever owned...and it's ATOYOTA.....nuff said...
(palindrome);)

Jigman
01-31-2005, 12:23 PM
'99 tacoma, 5 speed, 4 cyl. Does just fine for me. I pull my boat (16 foot skiff) with it. Only time I feel like I could use a little more power is on steep hills. Been a good truck, on road and off.

Jigman

fishsmith
01-31-2005, 12:54 PM
I pulled a 21 privateer with a tacoma 2000 4cyl 4x4 , handled pulling out of plymouths low tide slime ramp no problem.

tlapinski
01-31-2005, 01:08 PM
you guys are making me very happy with all the first hand positive experiences of this truck. thanks a lot. :read:

HighTide
01-31-2005, 01:20 PM
Got a 2003 Tundra V8, didn't get the 4x4 and I have yet to have any problems getting through the snow- great truck

Toyotas are a good choice:kewl:

ThrowingTimber
01-31-2005, 04:15 PM
T,

I got the auto, they had no manuals when I went and I needed a truck baaad.. My civic was manual(197k original clutch) and I kinda miss the manual at times, but when Im in traffic I dont miss the 1st, cruise, 1st, cruise, 1st, stop... 1st.. cruise junk :D Im happy with mine , does what I need, standard cab nothin fancy just tossed an mp3 player in it and I'll probably toss a regular cap on it whenever I get around to it no hurry : ) Good luck with your search

Raider Ronnie
01-31-2005, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by chris L
with a 22E engine ? that engine is killer the body would rot away after years and the negine just keeps on ticking . Just changed the oil and it ran for ever .

Mine is 100% rust free, but I have a pretty cool rack body I fabricated on it instead of the origional bed.

Jenn
01-31-2005, 06:29 PM
Get the Feeling........;)

KLMulder
01-31-2005, 07:58 PM
I am in sales at Toyota of Newport, if you need any help, info or advice send me a PM. I will help you all I can even if you are not getting it from me. I have access in the true invoice!!!!!! not the BS that the car buying sites put out.

KL

Diamond Tackle
02-01-2005, 12:13 AM
Add me to the list of satisfied toyata owners.
My 96 toyota tacoma 4 cyl, 5 speed has 215,000 hard miles on her, and she is doing just fine. Does not burn a drop of oil. original clutch ,water pump,and most everything else. I broke the rear leaf springs because someone decided he would try to see if she could hold 2000 lbs in the bed, she did ,but the spings snapped. Only big job was the front wheel bearings which were a royal pain in the arse to press out & required a special tool,a 2 weekend job. That was at about 150K miles.Since then everything has been smooth.

tlapinski
02-01-2005, 07:08 AM
Well, I am pretty much getting the truck thanks to all the high praise from you guys on this ride. Going tonight to have them look at my trade in and see how bad they bend me over. I owe a little over "average trade-in value", but that is still below "average retail". I just hope I don't get screwed too bad on the deal. I know the manager of the dealership, so I am hoping she'll help me out. I forgot how much I really hate the whole car buying process. Thanks again!

Clammer
02-01-2005, 08:15 AM
If you really want a pleasant experieance [sp] & no bull%$%$%$%$ //you should take to KL / my wife & I both had our best car shopping ever //with him //
I know he has two 2002 xtrcabs 4X$

4cyl stick & a 6 cyl stick //

good luck

tlapinski
02-01-2005, 08:28 AM
Clammer, if Newport wasn't 2.5 hours away, I would definately be there. Thanks though!

chris L
02-01-2005, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Raider Ronnie
Mine is 100% rust free, but I have a pretty cool rack body I fabricated on it instead of the origional bed.

thats why its rust free . they had problems with the beds rusting away . mine did after 248000 miles

Mike P
02-01-2005, 10:15 AM
Good luck with it, Toby. My experience is, if you get a good deal on the purchase, they'll whack you on the trade-in. I've never traded in a car when buying a new one. Always sold it privately afterwards.

My ex-wife was a pissah--she'd go in and get a great deal, then bite like a bluefish at all of the crap they try to sell you when you meet the sales manager---rustproofing/extended warranties/alarms and the like, the things you can ALWAYS get cheaper aftermarket :rolleyes:

Moses
02-01-2005, 10:17 AM
Tlapinski:

Good luck with your purchase. I'm scheduled to pick up my 2005 Toyota Tacoma 4WD Doublecab this thursday. It's the new 4 liter 6 cyl. I've been looking for a mid-size pickup truck for months now. I've test driven just about everything and was truly impressed with the Toyota. Plus, my brother in law owns a dealership in VA so he gave me the inside scoop, etc...

chris L
02-01-2005, 10:27 AM
make the best deal you can without a trade in and then after the deal is made then tell him you have a trade in . also get a deal with them financing the buy and then pay it off with a cheaper loan from elsewhere . just dont sign anything until you get what you want .

unfortunately its always a dog eat dog show down . Wish they werent like that !

Mike P
02-01-2005, 10:46 AM
Done it that way too, Chris. They will still low-ball you on the trade-in. We negotiated the sale on the ex's Lumina, then asked what they'd offer in trade on her 86 Camry when we went in to pick it up. They offered $1300. We sold it privately for $2400.

The Dad Fisherman
02-01-2005, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Moses
Tlapinski:

Good luck with your purchase. I'm scheduled to pick up my 2005 Toyota Tacoma 4WD Doublecab this thursday. It's the new 4 liter 6 cyl. I've been looking for a mid-size pickup truck for months now. I've test driven just about everything and was truly impressed with the Toyota. Plus, my brother in law owns a dealership in VA so he gave me the inside scoop, etc...


Thats the same truck I'm looking at....so whats the inside scoop?:D

Moses
02-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by The Dad Fisherman
Thats the same truck I'm looking at....so whats the inside scoop?:D

The main dealership he runs is Toyota but he also oversees Dodge, Chevy. So he has access to invoice and cost numbers as well as "material" that lists pros of one vs a similar model. I told him exactly what I was looking for (color, options packages - SR5 package #8, accesories) and he provided me a cost figure.

Besides getting a great $$ deal from a close friend of his locally around here, the resale value and quality of Toyota far exceeds any others in it's class.

Anything else PM me...

Clammer
02-01-2005, 12:40 PM
TL /when I bought my first one /I asked a few Toy owners // about dealers / prices /etc //
they all said about the same thing ===get the best deal you can ==go for it =======you,ll never be back to the dealer anyway ==== 5 trucks & 4 dealers later =they were right

:rolleyes: Mike

5/0
02-01-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by cheferson
4 cyl s-10's suck, no sack
Ahhh mine is a 4cyl 5 spd. I put a cold air induction w/ a K&N Air filter changed water pump & Altinator pully I squeezed out 20-25 more HP.Plus IM getting 26-28 MPG and I have a 146,000 on it.:D

My Truck has a good track record I have only changed My upper & lower drriverside Ball joints,water pump,front rotors/pads.It's getting ready for an altinator & battery.Hey for a 1996 with 146,000 I have no complaints

Stay with American;)
Good luck with your choice,either way I hope you get what you want.


5/0

Joe
02-06-2005, 08:11 AM
My old bass-mobile was 4C Toyota truck....
Bought it new in 89 as an 88 leftover....

I sold it a little over a year ago - 215,000 miles

I got 15 years of solid fishing service for $8200 - my only regret is that I did not buy two and put the second one on blocks in the garage.

j35
02-06-2005, 05:00 PM
kl mulder- pm sent