View Full Version : 1 Piece Rods vs. 2 Piece Rods
BigFish 02-21-2005, 09:57 AM Which do you prefer? With many getting rods built during the winter I was just curious how many prefer one to the other. I have 5 1 piece custom rods and I prefer them to the 2 piece rods. I used to hate when the 2 piece rods would loosen during a long session of casting, and I tried all the tricks...parafin wax, turning the rod as you insert it into the ferrel. Nothing worked! Sure it stinks when I can't break them down and store them safely inside my Jeep, but the tradeoff is worth it. Nothing I hated more than having to keep checking my 2 piece rod to see if it was loose or misaligned.:smash: I think the 1 piece feels alot stronger with a fish on also....maybe its just me.;) Thoughts?:confused:
Karl F 02-21-2005, 09:58 AM one piece, hands down.
fishaholic18 02-21-2005, 10:04 AM I like 1 piece for the same reasons.
Fishpart 02-21-2005, 10:45 AM I have two All Star 2 pieces 1265/2 and 1266/2. I don't have any trouble with them working loose and they feel like one piece when they get put together. I use the 1266 when I fish the canal and if it doesn't work loose ch#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g 4 oz of jig and tail it isn't coming loose. 1265 gets used slinging eels.
It's nice to be able to fit them in my car out of sight and lock it.
Did you have 2 piece customs or simply two piece off the shelf rods? If you did that is like comparing apples to bologna sandwiches.
MakoMike 02-21-2005, 11:01 AM I don't think I currently own any two piece rods.
spence 02-21-2005, 11:05 AM I don't see why you would want a 2 piece, unless space or transportation required.
If you were a Samauri would you want a 2 piece sword? :laughs:
-spence
Saltheart 02-21-2005, 11:17 AM I have all two piece rods except my canal rod and a lighter boat rod.
With todays ferrels , if you keep them clean and wring them together , they won't get loose or twist.
You should never use wax or nose grease or anything else on a ferrel. Its an old wives tale and exactly the wrong thing to do wheh you have problems. Clean is the way to go.
Some rods like Ugly sticks or other off the shelf stuff may have ferrels that don't fit well. A properly made spigot ferrel like you see on the better rods will tighten up so good your problem may be taking them apart , not keeping them from twisting.
Also , shipping is now through the roof on rods over about 9 feet. Availability gets to be a problem if you are not near a shop that stocks the blanks. Having Lami ship you one 11 foot blank is break the bank time.
BTW , all the world records in distance casting are done on two piece blanks so casting performance is no issue at all.
piemma 02-21-2005, 11:30 AM One piece. Unless you don't have roof racks to carry your 1 piece rods. Then you gotta go with the 2 piece. One piece has better action more secure no ferrule to worry about, etc.
basswipe 02-21-2005, 11:40 AM 1 piece.
I've had 2pc rods break at the ferrel.This was because the rods were cheap.But now I'll always have it in the back of my mind that a 2pc will break regardless of the quality of the rod.
Confidence in what you're using is key.
Flaptail 02-21-2005, 01:05 PM Actually, I always favored one piece rods but now have several two piece rods. They are Loomis rods and they have never caused me any concern. I like the fact that I can always have a rod with me to use on a moments notice as I always have gear in the care in season. The new two piece rods have no failings if you purchase a good one.:)
Goose 02-21-2005, 07:15 PM I use one peice. There are alot of qaulity two peice rods but they do not give me the peice of mind that a one peice gives me. Its kinda like having strap/tie on korkers, I'ld much rather fish with the fixed sole.
fishweewee 02-21-2005, 07:31 PM Well, I've yet to find a one piece 12-14 foot chunking stick. So I guess there will always be two-piecers for 8nbait.
If you're traveling by air (example: FL or the Caribbean), two-piecers are the ticket.
Closer to home, once piecers are my preference, provided that they can be secured when not in use (example, you park the truck in a public area to grab a bite, etc). Two-piecers are great because you can break them down and stick 'em in the car with no worries.
My favorite 2 piecers are the Lami Braided Line Series (with a "TS" prefix). Ferrules are very strong and I've yet to break one. One model I have from a while back is still in the arsenal, despite the fact that it has doubled as a walking stick in boulder fields. Oh yeah, and the action is just swell.
Slipknot 02-21-2005, 08:30 PM a Piece of electrical tape will hold 2 pc rod together.
Navy Chief 02-22-2005, 07:11 AM I drive a Dodge Neon. I don't think my car is 10 1/2 feet long.
2 piece is my only choice.
Cod Hunter 02-22-2005, 02:25 PM All 1 piece for me.
Swimmer 02-22-2005, 03:09 PM One piece is the only way to go if you have the means to transport them. My brother has a ford focus, otherwise known as the fishing focus, and he fits some pretty long rods inside and his longest rods extend out the front window just a short ways. I have had rods break at the ferule, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing. It only means you get to go to the toy store, and buy another or go home and make a new one. One piece rods are more expensive generally and in that regard we all have to graduate to them gradually.
Some people think fishermen are anti-social. Next time I talk to someone I'll discuss that with them, maybe.
Big Dave 02-22-2005, 05:01 PM My thoughts on this subject is these. There is a huge difference between 1 and 2 piece rods. And that difference is, personal prefrence only. All the talk about 1 piece being better is just that, talk, and someones opinion. None of the best rod makers in the world, make any 1 piece rods over 9 feet. The only two good rod makers that I can think of that make long 1 piece rods are Lamiglas, and another South African company that I just cant think of the name for some reason. There are some adaquate makers that make longer 1 piece rods too. Some say that shipping is one reason and that maybe true to some extent but shipping never stopped Lami from sending rods. So if someone wanted it bad enough form another company I am sure they would deliver. High performance rods today are all 2 piece. Me personally, I have not used a 1 piece rod for what now has to be 15 years. And of the hundreds, not 1 or 2, or even a dozen, but hundreds of 2 piece rods. i've either owned tried or had the pleasure to demo for blank manufacturers. I have never had an equipment failure due to workmanship of the blank. No loose ferrules. no tips flying off, no rods stuck together. Maybe I'm just lucky I dont know :)
What I do know is this. If a fishermen only perfers 1 piece rods, thier options in rod selection and performance is very limited. If in fact they believe that 1 piece rods are the pinacle of the industry then they are missing the boat for sure. Keeping an open mind aobut your fishing equipment is as important as everything else that has to do with fishing these days. I wouldnt trade 1 of my 2 piece performance rods for any two or three one piece rods out on the market today Cheers All Big Dave
fishdog13 02-22-2005, 05:40 PM electrical tape will hold 2 pc rod together :laughs: :laughs:
28inches 02-22-2005, 07:27 PM One piece only. Big Dave, you are fortunate never to have a broken ferrule, loose ferrule or stuck ferrule in all these years. I look at multi-piece rods and see no advantage, just potential problems, and a nuisance that must be dealt with before and after fishing. I like to just take the one-piece rods off the roof, fish and then put them back on the roof without fumbling around in the dark trying to line up ferrules. Just something else that can go wrong IMO. Maybe top of the line rods are multi-piece, but I dig my one piece lami's, and they're all I need to fish with..
tobias 02-22-2005, 08:34 PM I prefer rods longer than 11' so that relegates me to 2-piece rods. My favorite stick was a 1-piece Arra 1322, no longer own it, but now it's my Purglas(Big Dave, I think you were thinking of Purglas as the other company that makes 1-piece rods longer than 11'). My Purglas however is a 2-piece, wish I could get a 1-piece version of my Purglas but it would be way too much money. Haven't had any problems with the spigot joint or felt any difference between my 1-piece rods and my Purglas.
I think people need to try these higher end 2-piece rods to judge for themselves. The way I look at it, you could just always leave your 2-piece rod together and you wouldn't have to worry about breaking it down:D
davess23 02-22-2005, 09:28 PM I have mostly 2-piece rods by St. Croix, Lami. and All Star. I also have a few 1-piece rods, by St. Croix and Lami. I drive a small car, so transporting anything much over 8 feet is a hassle. My favorite of all the rods is a 1-piece 8 foot St. Croix Tidemaster, which casts really sweet, but the 2-piece 11 foot Lami Ron Arra is a damn close second. If my rotator cuff were in better shape to swing an 11 footer for extended periods, they'd be dead even.
These are all pretty good rods, and I can't really say I feel a difference based on whether they're 1 or 2 pieces. I've never had a rod snap at the ferrule. In fact, I've only broken rod tips. I've found that this is more apt to happen to the one piece rods, not while fishing but when they're being transported.
Maybe I'd have to try the same rod in 1 and 2 piece versions to notice the difference.
piemma 02-23-2005, 08:48 AM Just to set the record straight. Many excellent rod makers make 1 piece rods. here's a few that I own.
G Loomis, Pacific Bay (Saber blanks), Fisher, Lami, Penn, Shimano, Fuji
Vermonter 02-23-2005, 11:40 AM I own both types, have Lami and Rainshadow(new this winter-thanks again Mike) one peice rods while my 2 piece are St Croixs. I havent had any problems with the 2 piece coming apart for any of my saltwater gear, have had that happenwith some cheaper (and much older) freshwater gear. The one piece have always felt crisper when casting but Ive never gone to the trouble of testing both types in the same length/action rod. Transportation isnt a problem for me since due to carpentry Im always driving a truck. But Ive found myself more and more inclined to look at 2 piece rods the last few years with all the talk of gear being stolen around the canal and elsewhere-even fished next to a guy last year at BEll Rd who was wearing a glock due to that. When I fish Im there for the weekend, cant drive ten minutes and be in my own yard where the gear is safe in the back of the truck, so its practical to be able to lock things up and hike the beach with a rod of choice.
piemma 02-23-2005, 12:05 PM I have always had an SUV to fish out of but I wanted to pass on what has worked for me as far as transporting 1 piece rods.
13 years ago I bought a set of Yakima ski rack for a 92 Blazer. They are lockable and have rubber facing in the racks. I have used them on 6 or 7 different trucks and they still work fine. You can lock the reel seat down under the rack and the Allen bolts that holds the racks on the truck are under the rubber which is locked. The only way someone could steal the rods is by cutting the bolts.
I don't know what they cost now but in 92 they were $100. Many times I have had 6 rods on the roof when 3 of us went to the Cape or the Block and there was plenty of room for even big 706Zs or VS 250s.
Saltheart 02-23-2005, 01:15 PM I have a Blazer and got the Thule attachments that add on to the luggage rack that came on the car. because I didn't need to buy the bar rack itself (just the ski pinchers) the whole set up was $100. they have brackets to add the ski pinchers to almost any car. The adapters are different for a Blazer or Explorer or whatever but the dealer stocked every type you could think of.
Anyway , we put all the rods assembled in the rack for traveling and take them off and lock iside the truck without disassembling when we stop to eat or go inside stores etc. The Blazer will fit a 10.5 foot rod inside if you put it kitty corner. Tough to drive around that way but easy to put in and out the back window. the rack is now about 5 or 6 years old and still looks and works like new. It also has key locks.
I have a few 2 piece rods, but prefer my one piece rods and tend to use use them more. With the fish van I can carry any thing
Moses 02-23-2005, 03:07 PM I own a couple of old one piece rods (9.5 & 11') given to me by my neighbor who is 91 years old now. He had them custom made and used them surf fishing the south shore. I've changed the guides and had them rewrapped and they work great.
All my newer rods 9' and above are two piece. I've never had a problem casting or the pieces coming apart. For me, it's purely convenience at this point depending on where I'm going and whether I need to break the rods down.
Steve K 02-23-2005, 03:13 PM I like 1 piece rods mainly because I have had my two piece St. Croix rods loosen while working a pencil popper. I put electrical tape on the ferrules of my two piece rods now to prevent this from happening. I still prefer one piece rods especially while wading out to rocks because not having to worry about a rod coming apart is one less thing that I have to deal with.
RiverRatt 02-23-2005, 07:53 PM I have 1 1 piece rod and 2 2 piece rods 1 is custom 9.5 ' the other is an off the shelf 8.5', the custom I have no problems with. The off the shelf I have to keep an eye on it as the top half has a bad habit of spinning out of line with the lower half and has gone for a swim a time or 2 when I dont check it every dozen casts or so.
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