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wahlie
03-03-2005, 10:07 AM
Redlite/Wee Wee,
Picked her up lastnight.... I don't think i'm gonna be able to go back to shooting .40's after shooting her... The Kimber Ultra CDP II. Insanely accurate and controllable for it's size.. I noticed a bit of punch after about 200 rounds but nothing bad. the checkered grip ensures a great grip.

fishweewee
03-03-2005, 10:50 AM
copycat. :laughs: :bshake:

welcome to the disease, Chris. :devil:

p.s. you can order a drop-in .40 S&W bbl for it.

wahlie
03-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Hahaha.... I couldn't recall which Kimber you have. It's small for a 45 but nice rounded off edges.. Nothing to get stuck on... Gonna look at the trigger and put some rubber grips on it.

fishweewee
03-03-2005, 01:23 PM
Pffft. I carry a Kel-Tec. :hihi:

redlite
03-07-2005, 04:33 PM
Jeeezzz.
Startin' up your own militia? In Mass. it would be illegal to purchase so many toys in such a short period of time.
Got to get down to hometown to pickup my new toy my brother picked up for me the other day.
Nice little S+W .38 snubby.
If it weren't for our wonderful gun laws, I'd finally be gittin' meself a SIG too.
I actually got a bonus this year. Not much, but better than nothin.
Ring has GOT to come first.

wahlie
03-07-2005, 06:19 PM
Mike,
the ring is important ;)... My kimber has to have some work done on it... cartridges aren't emptying after being fired. I think that there is a burr in the barrel. Is the springfield show this weekend? mass laws are all sorts of messed up. In CT if you purchase more than 1 pistol from any given store in a 1 week period you have to fill out a form and send it to the ATF... you can buy multiple guns in a week as long as they aren't from the same store.

redlite
03-08-2005, 10:54 AM
Wahl,
Give the barrel, ramp, and ejection port all a good dousing with gun cleaner.
I had a similar problem with my S&W M59. Wasn't always pulling the spent shell casing out of the barrel before it tried to cycle the next one causing a horrendous jam. Of course it hadn't done it in over 5000 rounds until the first time i got in the simulator with it. Was great practice for clearing jams quick and under pressure.

I thought the same thing; maybe a burr or gunk around the end of the barrel. Ended up being that the extractor spring was worn out. I shipped to S&W and they put a new one in. No more problems.
Sounds like you may be having a similar problem.

Kimbers are a very nice custom improvement over the old 1911's.
The old man has 2 of the original Colts. We have to wear gloves when we shoot them cause they take big 'ole chunks out of the hand.

wahlie
03-08-2005, 11:10 AM
hahaha Mike, I hear ya. I got the rubber hogue grips for my kimber because it was digging into my hand after a while... After talking with Ben lastnight I think it's gotta be either a burr or the extractor isn't working right but it's a new gun.. hmm...

redlite
03-08-2005, 11:34 AM
Try puttin a drop or two of Rem Oil on the extractor. Where its a new gun may, be stickin a little and need a little lube.
Very surprised that you're havin issues with it, especially if its a brand new gun. I have heard nothing but good things about Kimber. Makes me question their reliablilty and how secure I'd feel relying on it as a carry gun.:confused:

wahlie
03-08-2005, 02:19 PM
I've never heard of anyone having any problems either. think it's some fluke problem.

fishweewee
03-08-2005, 03:30 PM
mike, chris is also having problems with unintended slam-fire.

that's pretty scary for a new gun.

redlite
03-08-2005, 04:17 PM
"Unintended slam fire"

Maybe this should be in the "STAR" thread.....


Does that mean that as the slide comes forward to chamber the next round, it is automatically dropping the firing pin to discharge the round?

If so Chris, I WOULD NOT shoot that gun. Very unsafe. I'd be on the horn real quick with both the dealer and Kimber themselves to let them know of my dissatisfaction and concern for them producing such a pricy and unsafe product.

Proably give you a few nice t-shirts when they replace the gun. Tell them you want a different/ new gun. Don't accept to have them repair it for free. Sounds like to me that the pistol has some serious issues.

Keep me posted.

wahlie
03-08-2005, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I've talked with the gunsmith already.. it scared the hell out of me. T-bone was there when it happened. I'm going to demand a new gun. I mean i didn't spend that kind of money to have problems right off the bat. that's ridiculous. I'm sure that they'll make good with it though. God knows I've given them enough business.

I'll keep you posted.

TheSpecialist
03-21-2005, 01:42 PM
Weak mags springs would also cause a failure to eject. There are many causes. If you are going to get any work done on your gun (feed ramp polishing, ejection port work etc) I would highly recommend Mike LaRocca in Worcester. Mike is an excellent gunsmith.

Slam Fires = :err:

Here are a couple of my favorite sites:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/index.php?


http://forum.m1911.org/

The second one has Brand specific forums....

"uffah!!"
03-24-2005, 12:37 PM
Looking to get one of these New Coolers!!!!

"uffah!!"
03-25-2005, 08:44 AM
Sorry Guy's didn't mean to Hi-Jack you site!!

fishweewee
03-27-2005, 07:08 AM
That is pretty cool. Ah, the joys of flat beds ... :laughs:

redlite
03-28-2005, 01:00 PM
Wahlie, So what is the latest on the Kimber issue?
Went to the range saturday to make some noise and put holes in paper.
I think I found something new to do on the cape besides fish. Guy that was there does a lot of IPSIC shooting. He had a sweeeeet Caspian .38 super all tricked out. Thing could double tap through the same hole at 25 feet. He said he can consistently snake eye even out to 200 feet that's how flat and straight .38 super fires. I had no previous knowledge of that caliber before, but the IPSIC shooting has always intrigued me.
Anyhow, he was tellin me about how they do all kinds of comp shooting (baricades and what not) down at Bass River Rod and Gun in Yarmouth. :drool: He invited me down to check it out. Said I should be fine usin my Browning High Powere as that is what he uses in the open sights class. His AR-15 was even sweeter. :drool: :drool:
But fishin be a hell of a lot cheaper.
There was a guy shootin a S+W 500. Talk about a BLASTER.

wahlie
03-28-2005, 05:57 PM
Red,
went shooting on friday(had the day off work) talked to the shop and they said that i'd have a new gun in about a month. curious to see if kimber does anything to make right with this because if people are dropping that kind of change on a pistol and it's having problems out of the box that's bad for PR.
they have plate shooting on friday nights down here with everything ranging from shotguns, pistols(semi's, single action cowboys, sub machine guns.... gotta check it out one night.

fishweewee
03-29-2005, 08:13 AM
Reddy's gonna need his CT permit to bring his toys down here Wahlie...

And you should get your Mass Class A LTC if you're gonna play up in Redlite's neck 'o the woods.

TheSpecialist
03-29-2005, 10:30 AM
Weee put up a link for the Conn permit.

I'll come down for the plate shooting. I did it at the club a couple of years ago, it was fun. Fastest for me was 6 plates in about 8 seconds, I threw the 4th shot. That was with a stock HK USP compact. A guy using a very tricked out Les Baer had a time of like 4.3 seconds..

They are supposed to run a bunch of them up in Braintree this year, and the are putting in the mechanical targets too.

redlite
03-29-2005, 10:54 AM
I have never read much about Conn. Gun laws as I am very rarely in Conn. but I was assuming it was much like other states. I could transport my firearms through the state as long as they were unloaded, locked, and locked in a gun box. I would not be able to carry the weapon on me, but would be able to use it at a range/ hunting/ or in competitions. Will try and look into it cause I'd defiantely like to come down there for a little bang bang session. Gonna be hard since HR has put a block on any web site with "gun" or "firearm" any where in it.

Is the plate shootin like Specialist is talking about (high speed plinkin) or is it sillouhette shooting?
That was the first "real" gun (other than bb guns) that I shot at about 6.
S&W Model 29 .357 Highway Patrolman's gun with 6 inch barrel and scope. Old man used to do a lot of sillouhette shooting. Only thing that sucks about it is having to walk way the hell down the range to stand them back up. :boots:

redlite
03-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Specilist-
Are you a member of Braintree Gun Club?
They just upped the range fees at my place from $20 a year to $60 a year (Woodcock in Dartmouth) and at that cost, I'd rather look for something closer for reasonable costs. I had looked into becomin a member a few years ago there durin one of the gun shows they have, but wasn't really that enthusiastic about due to lack of flexiablty.
some info would be appreciated.

fishweewee
03-29-2005, 01:49 PM
Here is a site that will give you carry info (as well as application info) on all 50 states and then some. :hihi:

http://www.packing.org

wahlie
03-30-2005, 01:30 PM
guys,
here is the website for the plate shooting. I think they are doing carbines this friday

http://pages.cthome.net/HoolyGun/NEOR/

think i'm gonna go check it out.

-Chris

fishweewee
03-30-2005, 02:01 PM
booo. no subgun category. :skulz:

redlite
03-30-2005, 02:33 PM
Not a very informative web page. Only .22 pistol? With the distance that means for shotgun they must be usin slugs? OUch. That's a beggin for a sore shoulder. And what qualifies for "pistol caliber carbine"? I see in the pics an MP9 but also an AR15 style gun, unless that is one of those new police guns that shoots 9mm or .40 S&W.

Let us know how it is Wahlie.

wahlie
03-30-2005, 04:12 PM
i'm not sure about the shotgun category... i'd imagine that it's not slugs but who knows.... i picked up a ruger 9mm carbine yesterday for this kinda shooting. holds a hi-cap pistol mag... looks very much like a mini-14. Mike, I think that is a 9mm or .40. they don't allow .223 or anything that is a non-pistol cartridge... they do betting and stuff... money, donuts, drinks.... all we need is some ladies shakin' it and we'd be all set. :chased:

redlite
03-30-2005, 04:22 PM
I would imagine at that distance (shotgun) you'd have to use slugs. If not all it'd take would be one blast and they would all be down? Where's the competition in that?
You gettin all kinds a nice toys Wahlie.

TheSpecialist
03-30-2005, 08:30 PM
Mike I have been a member there for a long time. It is 90 or 95 a year now. Was the new indoor range there when you were last there? Jacketed , and Magnum loads allowed, 24 hr access,and the old indoor range was redone and is the same way. Both have electronic carriers. The gate is open on Sunday mornings, and you can go up and get an application in the new clubhouse. You have to attend a new member meeting, they run one a month on a sunday, and there is a 75 initiation fee. As far as I am concerned best club around for the money. They also hold CMP matches, andpretty regular NRA matches.

TheSpecialist
03-30-2005, 08:33 PM
Looks like a 9mm AR, and a UMP possibly in .45

TheSpecialist
03-30-2005, 08:58 PM
Mike here is a link to the clubs website.



http://www.brp.org/

wahlie
03-31-2005, 11:35 AM
Went over to New England Outfitters(where the plate shooting is held lastnight) they use target loads for the shotguns which is kinda odd.. they said that there is a 12 yr old that runs circles around alot of the older guys with tricked out hardware.. It will be interesting to see how it goes.. I know i'll get my arse handed to me but it will be fun.

fishweewee
03-31-2005, 03:16 PM
Did some lucky bastage go shooting on his lunch hour? :jump1:

wahlie
03-31-2005, 04:51 PM
hahaha yup... I made it out for an hour... that place was ok. looked at the beretta storms in .45 acp but couldn't justify plinking 8 bills for it... Wee Wee, that place seemed a little high priced for what they had plus their selection wasn't all that great... the guy knew you though ;)

fishweewee
03-31-2005, 04:59 PM
That guy = Grrrrrr. :splat:

I told you that place was expensive ... it's the Gold Coast you know.

wahlie
04-01-2005, 02:27 PM
ok so after some research I settled on this baby for plate shooting and plinking.... got a good deal on her too.. there was a 200 dollar difference between scott moss and newington gun exchange... got the .40. gonna try her out tonight... for the first time someone has come out with a gun that is truly ambitexorous out of the box.

http://www.bvs.cz/images/BERETTA_C4STORM_9.jpg

TheSpecialist
04-02-2005, 07:23 PM
Wahkie did you know this guy,he is from CT., goes by the board name of Hoolygun, which is in the web address above?

http://hkpro.websolv.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=235692&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

wahlie
04-03-2005, 04:04 PM
I believe that i've met him a couple of times. that's a shame that he passed away. on a positive note though did the plate shoot on friday and it was a BLAST... next week is centerfire pistols. the beretta storm that I picked up held her own. there were about 25 guys and I took 4th place overall. wound up going about 10-4 against guys shooting some crazy guns. A bunch of very friendly guys... they actually just changed the website.. i think it's fridaynightplates.com or something like that.. they also do idpa and ipsich(sp) definately want to try that stuff out. specialist, if you or mike wanted to come down some friday if they are doing pistols you can use one of mine.

TheSpecialist
04-03-2005, 05:26 PM
Sure I would like that

wahlie
04-04-2005, 08:49 AM
I think you guys would have a blast.

fishweewee
04-05-2005, 11:00 PM
Chris, check out this 1911 in an interesting caliber ...

http://www.guncrafterindustries.com

wahlie
04-06-2005, 10:44 AM
hahaha holy crud.... now that's a 1911 with some stopping power. a .50 caliber.... wouldn't want to be on the business end of that gun.

redlite
04-06-2005, 11:19 AM
This sucks.

All these sweet links and gun pictures and I can look at any of them. HR sucks.

fishweewee
04-06-2005, 11:31 AM
Thinking of picking one up, just have to figure the economics of reloading what is essentially a wildcat caliber. :hihi:

Rob Rockcrawler
04-11-2005, 01:39 AM
Redlite, you mentioned that you would get a Sig if it wasnt for Mass gun laws, what is the deal with the sig? I know it doesnt have a real safety, is that the issue? I just got done with a law enforcement academy and I shot a couple thousand rounds thru the sig 226, what a sweet gun i was hoping to get one. There were 34 people in my class and i only saw one jam, and the guns didnt get cleaned for the whole week at the range.

fishweewee
04-11-2005, 11:14 AM
The newer Sigs are made in New Hampshire (except for the barrel, which is still forged in Germany). Older ones (made and assembled in Germany) are more desirable.

You have to be extremely careful when selecting carry (non-ball) ammo for the Sig because it is very finicky with hollowpoints and longer/heavier bullets. I experienced a failure to feed at the worst possible moment in a defensive situation a few years back, and this is after I put 250 jam-free rounds of the same damn ammo through it as recommended by the experts. I was so freaked out afterwards that for a while a carried a six-gun instead.

I was amazed to hear confirmation of the same problem from a UDT/SEAL (who is a fellow member on this board but shall remain nameless). The P-228's are (were?) issued to Naval Special Warfare personnel.

Apart from that, they are a joy to shoot at the range.