View Full Version : New Aquaskinz Single Row Plug Bags
Have come in...I think I'm one of the first to have them...
http://www.surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/StoreImages/newbagfull.jpg
Surfcasting RI's Aquaskinz Page (http://65.36.161.94/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SRIOTS&Category_Code=A)
A nice plug bag that will last a real long time and at under $90 - a very good value...
theSURF121 03-06-2005, 12:52 AM Joe, did the belts come in as well?
Not yet - but soon I hope....
TheRattBoy 03-06-2005, 12:29 PM Joe, Are you gonna have these at the RISAA show ?:) johnny
beachwalker 03-06-2005, 12:43 PM $90 with the plugs :confused:
I know :smash: :smash:
They look nice. How tall is it ?
beachwalker 03-06-2005, 12:45 PM ahh, just saw. 8.25" :)
I'll be ordering one. :D :cool:
I won't be doing the RISAA show.....
Its a great show and I did well last year, but logistically it almost killed me....I'm only one guy...
I'm better if I stay in my room
TheRattBoy 03-06-2005, 01:22 PM Thanks Joe, order placed.....:kewl: johnny
newsalt 03-25-2005, 07:04 AM Hi Joe,
The bag is awesome! I can't wait to use it (it won't be long now).
Derek
Flaptail 03-25-2005, 07:55 AM Too much money. Yeah they are well made but still can't justify the expense. I guess I never followed fashion trends anyways on or off the beach. Sorry, :hs: Do they make you any better of an angler?
reelecstasy 03-25-2005, 07:58 AM The Aqua Skinz bag is very well made, and certainly looks built to last. But I can't justify it, maybe I have aligator arms....Flaptail, i'd take that bag we saw for 10 bucks though :hihi:
JohnR 03-25-2005, 10:16 AM Too much money. Yeah they are well made but still can't justify the expense. I guess I never followed fashion trends anyways on or off the beach. Sorry, :hs: Do they make you any better of an angler?
I had a couple experiences last year that the bag paid for itself, one I was fishing in Gansett when a big wave washed over the ledge behind me and washed my bag and eel bucket over and into the cut behind the ledge. I did not have the bag buckled (stupid me) but the velcro was enough to keep the flap down tight so I didn't loose eveything inside. Had I been fishing almost any of my other bags, I would have lost most items in the bag...
Is it a necessity? No. Is it worth the money? Mine paid for itself in that one night.
BTW - I like the bigger pouch in the front of the new single row bag...
Iwannakeeper 03-25-2005, 10:25 AM I am actually really excited about the new smaller bucktailing-like bags.
They are perfect for the ditch or smaller jigs. I love the small individual holders in the front with the larger pouch in the back for rubber or pork.
I plan on getting a couple of those. And the new belt.
I like the larger bags, but not currently in the budget. I just order parts for a couple of rods.
-IWK
ragfly 03-25-2005, 12:10 PM At the MSBA show I looked at that bag and the one that they at at the Surfcaster booth. I picked the surfcaster bag. better quality and only $75.
Flaptail 03-25-2005, 12:44 PM Joe, no bait just a statement. This is an open forum right? John, I have had that happen many times and the bags I use held also at a fraction of the cost. I think it's akin to the cost of top end fly reels. Take a 2.5 Penn flyreel, very popular several years back. Could just pop off the spool but everyone wanted one. Has about 7 actual parts. A 50TW Penn trolling reel has about a hundred parts but they each cost the same. It's what the market will bear. If you feel that you need that bag fine, I don't is all.
Rock Hopper 03-25-2005, 03:18 PM Ragfly,
Just curious, did you buy it there or did you have to fill out the form they had and send a check or some other payment?
Also, what makes you say it is better than an AquaSkinz bag? If you broke it down from the thread used to actual materials, design and as important, inserts, I think you would find that the AquaSkinz bag is a superior product for about $15.00 more.
But I would like to hear your side as to what makes the surfcaster bag better.
Thanks,
Kadir
TheSpecialist 03-25-2005, 03:38 PM Personally, I am not big on exspensive things. I don't own a Van Staal, or a Saltiga, I have quite a few beautiful custom rods, and a few exspensive plugs, but other than that I use moderately to inexsoensively priced gear. That being said I had a hard time parting with my hard earned blue collar coin for the large Aquaskins Bag last season. I finally bit the bullet and bought the bag. I have to say that I am glad I did. It suits me just perfect, just enough room on the outside pockets etc. I love this bag, and really can only think of one thing that might make it a little bit better. But I will save that for later. After looking at the new bag at the show, I know that these bags are perfect for the canal angler. The main body can hold some serious pluggage. The front pocket has individual compartments sewn into it for tins and bucktails. I bet they would handle a 5 or 6 oz bucktail no problem. When I can spare the dough, or if my wife asks me what I want for my birthday in a couple of weeks it will be at the top of my list.
spence 03-25-2005, 03:40 PM Given the volume, I don't see how you could construct a top quality bag for much less money. When you look at it in relative terms, the 5 slot Aquaskinz bag costs less than 5 top quality plugs to put in it...
-spence
Rock Hopper 03-25-2005, 03:46 PM TS,
You hit the nail on the head! The inner bucktail/tin slots were measured and sewn to fit 5&6 oz. bucktails. We actually had a 6 in the bag and were showing anyone who was interested in this feature.
They will also accomodate tins like, Pt.Jude's, Kastmasters upto the 4 oz. and hopkins and crippled herrings. The one thing I will warn against with tins though is to keep your single hook tins in the slots. The trebles can get caught and snag up as well hook you if you forget about it.
If you do end up buying this bag, you won't be sorry.
Kadir
Rock Hopper 03-25-2005, 03:53 PM Spence,
Excellent point! I always think about that, how people put a few hundred $$$ worth of plugs into them without blinking an eye but question the cost of the unit that holds, protects and functions with those expensive plugs.
When you think about it, the bag cost is marginal.
Kadir
spence 03-25-2005, 04:08 PM If that was patronizing enough feel free to send a sample to my address :wave:
-spence
Rock Hopper 03-25-2005, 04:12 PM Spence,
:wave: is one enough :D
Kadir
spence 03-25-2005, 04:29 PM Send a lot of stuff in one box if you'd like to save on shipping :devil:
-spence
Rock Hopper 03-25-2005, 04:36 PM Spence,
Watch out, it might come with the marking dye's used by Brinks :happy: :happy: :hihi:
Kadir
spence 03-25-2005, 04:43 PM If anyone assults me with UV light at 2am on a new moon :rocketem:
-spence
Too much money. Yeah they are well made but still can't justify the expense. I guess I never followed fashion trends anyways on or off the beach. Sorry, :hs: Do they make you any better of an angler?
Wow,Flaptail ,I am impressed
A second slam on the price in two treads ,first on gloves and now on the bag.And to think that these are the two of the lowest price aquaskinz models.I can only imagine of your opinion (not that I care) about the rest of the line.
Of course there is no agenda behind it .... :angel:
Of course $$$$ plugs are not an issue ........
TheRattBoy 03-25-2005, 10:00 PM I'd say that where you fish determines what kind of bag you need....standing on the sand of the Cape, without wading out, i'd say you don't need a bag like this but if yer fishing out in the water , in between the boulders, hopping from boulder to boulder, like in R.I., i'd say this bag was as useful as yer korkers.After getting slammed by a wave or two maybe you'd agree.Don't want any of those custom plug$ falling out. :) johnny
bassmaster 03-25-2005, 10:38 PM Too much money. Yeah they are well made but still can't justify the expense. I guess I never followed fashion trends anyways on or off the beach. Sorry, :hs: Do they make you any better of an angler? cheap turd so what if they want to cattle the heard on the net half the other freaks out here grab the suckers any way. like 35 dollar plugs :laugha: suckers.
Squid kids Dad 03-25-2005, 10:50 PM :wall: :hs: :hs:
Mike P 03-25-2005, 11:15 PM If I wanted to drive from Bahstahn to LA, I could do it safely and semi-comfortably in a $13,000 Toyota Corolla.
But if I can afford a $35,000 Lexus ES 300 and want to do it in that, why not? It doesn't make me any better as a driver, but it makes the trip more enjoyable.
spence 03-25-2005, 11:25 PM I've made chip beef on toast in a 300 dollar bourgeat copper pan.
You know what?
It was average but I had a hell of a time doing it. Everything is realative...
-spence
BasicPatrick 03-26-2005, 12:10 AM I understand Flap's point that choosing to purchase any of the Aquaskinz products goes way beyond "need". He is right. He is also correct that being "catalog man" will not catch you fish.
If we were to all tell the truth, we all pass need during our first season fishing. Do we need custom rods, high end reels, the best quality plugs....nope, nope and absolutely not. This thread seems to be about how we each choose to "enjoy" the sport. Yes, I can enjoy fishing without my Lamiglass, Stradic, Power Pro, Habs, etc. etc. etc. I can catch a lot of fish with an ugly stick, a penn, and a rubber shad. I can catch plenty of big fish with bait and an even cheaper outfit.
However, I have felt the excitement of feeling the "swoosh" of a tail going by my plug because I throw good quality tackle. I work hard and choose to go beyond "need" in most areas of my life. I am not ashamed to say that I deserve nice things. I deserve to be comfortable. Mike P's Automobile analogy is right on. Choosing Aquaskinz products is a choice of comfort. My thought is what's wrong with that.
I live in Hull and do a lot of fishing right here in rocky spaces that are "hairy". Using Aquaskinz products takes a bit of my worries away so I can concentrate on the safety of my A$$ not the safety of my gear. I also find some added confidence when I know my gear is up to any task I choose to undertake. any fisherman worth his salt will tell you that confidence breeds sucess in the suds.
Do I sound like a salesman yet...Yeah, I do a bit of marketing for Aquaskinz and am definately jaded. However,those who know me know that My name does not get behind anything I would not own myself and the single row bag is already my favorite of the Aquaskinz line. The reason it is my favorite is that I heard all of the feedback from the last two years that created this bag. This bag was designed to meet the requests of many right on this board. I am proud that Kadir listened to the comments and feedback given to him when designing this bag.
You can compare and argue quality of a Surfcaster Bag vs and Aquaskinz bag. They are both good products in the same price range. I think the Aquaskinz bags have a few bonus mfeatures that make them better but forget that for a minute. What I think should sway the potential customers on this board is the fact that Kadir and others in the company are right here and in other places on a regular. When you have a problem we are here to adress it. Aquaskinz products are designed by fishermen for fishermen and the single row bag proves this statement to be true. Isn't that the type of company you want to be dealing with. It is for me, that is why I got involved.
Flaptail 03-26-2005, 07:04 AM Patrick your a wise man. Thanks for acknowledging my point. That is all I was inferring. It was not a personal attack on anybody, just a point of view. Thanks again. Bassmaster go back to sleep, you got 29 days to go then you may come out.
Rock Hopper 03-26-2005, 09:08 AM Steve,
I think everyone understood your point and no one took it as a personal attack. The fact that you made it seem as though the users of AquaSkinz belonged to a click or were about making a fashion statement is what I question.
It is akin to saying that people who use high end Shimano, Daiwa, Lami, Loomis, Whaler, Mako etc. belonging to the same.....not exactly accurate.
Both Ditch and Patrick made great points and are valid. The fact that a certain demographic needs this type of product and another doesn't but chooses to use it shouldn't be a point of contention by you or anyone else.
Plus, you question price, I understand you may not be familiar with manufacturing,the costs of raw goods and the overall process. There are multiple factors that affect the overall price of any item. The better the materials and process, the more it is going to cost, period. I always say, don't just look at the surface of something and make an assumption, delve down to the core of it and make an educated comment.
Also, whether you know someone personally or not, it is not appropriate to tell someone to go back to sleep and come out in 29 days...whether it was in joking or not.
As I said, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, don't just make a blanket statement, know something about what your saying before you say it.
If you were to ask me why my products cost a little more than say a Canyon or a Surfcaster, I would be able to explain it to you and you would have a better understanding.
Kadir
spence 03-26-2005, 09:39 AM Steve,
The fact that you made it seem as though the users of AquaSkinz belonged to a click or were about making a fashion statement is what I question.
To just set the record straight. I really believe the best feature of my Rampage splash top is the color. Gray goes with practically everything :humpty:
-spence
fishweewee 03-26-2005, 09:46 AM Hey Flap, :wave:
Let's take a drive down to the South Fork of Long Island next November.
We'll hit a place called "M." :devil:
bassmaster 03-26-2005, 11:21 AM Patrick your a wise man. Thanks for acknowledging my point. That is all I was inferring. It was not a personal attack on anybody, just a point of view. Thanks again. Bassmaster go back to sleep, you got 29 days to go then you may come out.
ok:) cant wait to fish .................. :putin:
Pete F. 03-26-2005, 12:37 PM We should all remember that if the only people who bought a high end product were the ones who really needed it to fufill it's function there would be very few made and they would be even more expensive.
When the New Yawkahs bought the farm down the road from me, my neighbor, a thrifty New Englander since retired to the Virgin Islands, told the John Deere salesman "Why did you sell them all those new tractors, They don't need them?" To which the salesman replied "Dave, so you could buy them used"
Flaptail 03-26-2005, 08:12 PM Kadir, first of all, I have known BASSMASTER for going on 13 years now. He and I know and most of the others on this board know it was a joke so you are totally out of line there. I didn't see your name on the moderators list. And don't tell me what is appropriate if YOU don't know the background.
Now that said, I do understand manufacturing and cost, having a number of friends in that line of business, and yes please explain to me "the cost" ? If there is a mistake on my part I would like to know.
And in closing I have been in the game a long, long time I have seen fads, trends and must haves come and go so I don't need to be preached to and it's not a "blanket statement". (Like 200.00 plus for pliers from VanStal and others) I have always been blunt and always say what I feel and probably will not change after 50 years of doing so. My horoscope says I always get off on the wrong foot with people. I admit and bow to it's understanding of my personality but what you see and what you hear from me is what you get.
Once again sorry if I criticized and/or questioned the price of your products but I have an opinion and I stated it and will not retract it. I wish you continued success with your products they are just not for me. :huh:
BigFish 03-26-2005, 08:26 PM My point of view is this....I own a $200.00 pair of VS pliers. They were a splurge for me but they make my fishing experience easier and more worry free because I like the product and they hold up well. Yeah, I know there are other cheaper pliers out there but I felt good about these and have no regrets. Will I buy a VS reel for $600.00 plus? I doubt it! I do own the large and small Aquaskinz bags and I think they are a great product. My only wish on them is deeper tubes for longer plugs...otherwise, a good product for my hard earned coin that makes my fishing experience more enjoyable. Will I buy an Evo or Hurricane top.....yep! Soon, because it will fit my need and make my fishing experience a little dryer. I am not rich by any means, but I do believe in spending my money on products that will last me awhile. Others may see the Aquaskinz line in a different light and it all comes down to opinion.....they are like a$$holes and everyone has one! Kadir keep up the great work on your great products and Steve....we have a date to fish and I will have my VS pliers, my Skinz bags and, depending on the weather that day, my Evo top and you can use my pliers if'n you have a need! :laugha:
bassmaster 03-26-2005, 08:46 PM dont bigfish, i have my vs plyers and skins lure bags on my belt and a 150 or 250 to punish flaptail.
i dint read the whole thing butflap and screw with each other on the boards but we fish hard together all season.
i like the the belt bags plus i carry a vs bag, but most the time I just work outa 2 of them bags. i got 2 cause i like them and dont care who makes what around here as long as i get fish and get to get flap PO'd :spam: master is back quiet :pop: :uhuh: :thanks:
Karl F 03-26-2005, 08:54 PM I wish you continued success with your products they are just not for me. :huh:
What he left out Kadir was... "Unless you send me one for free, than I will sing your praises to the masses"
;)
Steve, only yankin' ya chain... Happy Eastah! :D
BigFish 03-26-2005, 08:55 PM Bassmaster...:kewl:
spence 03-26-2005, 11:10 PM ...otherwise, a good product for my hard earned coin that makes my fishing experience more enjoyable.
Posin, poser, posimatory excess...
Super poser.
Hele poser.
Deca poser.
Manja poser.
or in Italian, poser mille...
-spence
BigFish 03-26-2005, 11:13 PM Has posed....will pose...super im-posed....indis-posed....supercalifragilisti-posed.... :laugha:
Rock Hopper 03-26-2005, 11:17 PM Kadir, first of all, I have known BASSMASTER for going on 13 years now. He and I know and most of the others on this board know it was a joke so you are totally out of line there. I didn't see your name on the moderators list. And don't tell me what is appropriate if YOU don't know the background.
Steve,
Whether you know someone 13 days or 13 years, to make a statement such as the one you made is not right in my opinion. There are people here, I am sure, that don't know the background. Nothing personal. And you are right, I am not a moderator and don't wish to be.
Now that said, I do understand manufacturing and cost, having a number of friends in that line of business, and yes please explain to me "the cost" ? If there is a mistake on my part I would like to know.
Things like this are comical, someone knows someone in some line of work and assumes they know the details. Steve, I am certain you could tell me the cost of a square yard of the material used and how many square yards go into each bag or the cost of the special saltwater grade (rot proof) thread per thousand yards and even better yet, the cost for export and import duties for all the raw goods and then the finished product. To add to that, the costs associated with the type of plastics used for the tubes to the pecific size molds made & used for the different lengths and three seperate size trays that seperate AquaSkinz bags from any other plug bag in the market place. To fully understand the details, one has to dive head long into it. For me to get into all the intracacies of the manufacturing and cost would take a while, maybe we can discuss it during a session on the beach when I am on the Cape this summer. It isn't as simple as looking at a product at a show, in a catalogue or on-line and guessing what it should cost and whether or not it is too much.
And in closing I have been in the game a long, long time I have seen fads, trends and must haves come and go so I don't need to be preached to and it's not a "blanket statement".
Like you I have been doing this for some time as well and have seen the same. According to my calander, AquaSkinz is now "in the game" for 3+ years and isn't slowing down. Our dealer base gets stronger, our users sing the products praises and our line has continued to grow year after year and will continue to do so. If this was a fad or a trend, it would have been dead about 2 years ago.
Once again sorry if I criticized and/or questioned the price of your products but I have an opinion and I stated it and will not retract it. I wish you continued success with your products they are just not for me. :huh:
Steve, I have said from the onset, you have a right to your opinion and I respect that. Apologies are not necessary in my opinion and thank you for your wishes. Hope to see you on the beach and maybe even in Montauk this Fall.
Kadir
What he left out Kadir was... "Unless you send me one for free, than I will sing your praises to the masses"
;)
Steve, only yankin' ya chain... Happy Eastah! :D
You might be closer to the truth than you might think :rolleyes:
BASSOMATIC 03-27-2005, 09:08 AM Frankly, I'm glad to see Flaptail's criticism, even though I dont agree with it. There are enough low priced, low end bags on the market to choose from. Aquaskinz is manufacturing better quality products for the high end of the market. I'm glad I have 3 coastal bags that take care of all my needs.
I'm tired of seeing some guys licking these manufacturers a$$es. The self promotion garbage kinda makes me sick.
Frankly, I'm glad to see Flaptail's criticism, even though I dont agree with it. There are enough low priced, low end bags on the market to choose from. Aquaskinz is manufacturing better quality products for the high end of the market. I'm glad I have 3 coastal bags that take care of all my needs.
I'm tired of seeing some guys licking these manufacturers a$$es. The self promotion garbage kinda makes me sick.
I agree wholeheartedly with that statement :btu: ......As long as the criticism is directed to a flaw in a product ,regardless if its a plug ,bag or reel.Criticism based on the price alone tends to appear as sour grapes.
After all ,I don't see many guys drive Kia on the beach although it has 4 wheel drive.........
fishweewee 03-27-2005, 10:21 AM I'm tired of seeing some guys licking these manufacturers a$$es.
Dude, I just ate man, why did you have to put that visual in my head? blah.
:yak6:
basswipe 03-27-2005, 10:37 AM Dude, I just ate man, why did you have to put that visual in my head? blah.
:yak6:
Nothing like passing the same meal through your throat twice.
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