Visiting many shops over the winter I've noticed that plug prices have gotten to an insane level... Don't get me wrong before I say anything, the plugs are for the most part works of art but how can someone justify charging 35 bucks for a plug? what happened to the days of paying 10-20 bucks for a good wooden plug? It seems as if in the past two years prices have almost doubled... I'd just like to know why? Is it hardware that's used? 2 bucks worth of hardware can't justify a 10-15 dollar increase per plug... Makes me glad that there are places online that you can buy bodies pre-drilled for less than 5 bucks... I feel sorry for the guys that are just getting into this sport... When will this cutoff be that manufacturers will realize that they are shooting themselves in the foot by charging almost 40 bucks for a plug????

Cuz manufacturers realize there are knuckleheads who will pay $35 for a plug. :bl:

I guess Its because some people will accually pay $30 for a plug. If someone wouldn't pay that kind of money for a plug i dont think you would see those prices. People have way too much money to spend i guess! :bl: I guess if your a collector of plugs thats one thing but i dont think people accually fish a plug that costs $35 bucks do they? :huh: That would suck if a big ole' Bluefish got a hold of that baby!

yeah, if you look at the prices on ebay beachmasters and habs are selling for 30-50 bucks.... i'm not trying to start a witch burning trial here but i'd like to hear from some of the plug makers as to why plugs have gone up so much... it's gotten to a point where myself and a lot of other guys that fish these plugs will not buy them.

Wahlie, I think we're seeing an internet fueled plug bonanza. There arent many large SB specific lure co's out there to keep prices inline.
Some plugs I NEED, so Im glad to pay $20+ for a HABS or ??
Whats crazy are the 3 month builders asking $20 for plugs that they were taught how to build right here. All following the same techniques. Too funny.. And the AP show where 80% of the custom plugs are all the same style and they're all try to outprice each other.
Dont get me started on Ebay

Beachmasters (not counting Darters) always sell for under $20 at the Edge. :D

Super Strikes may not be wood but they do catch fish. And they're very reasonably priced. Both bulders make VERY time tested plugs. These days 6 months seem to be "time tested"... :confused:

The Edge may be located in Newport, but our prices usually beat Benny's, Wal-mart, and Cabelas when it comes to standards like Bombers and Kastmasters. And you're not going to find Beachmaster or Super Strike at those places.

I think right now there is an awful lot of demand and not enough product, with time it will equalize. Surf fishing right now is saltwater fly fishing 5 years ago. The mentality is you HAVE to have expensive wood to catch fish. Everyone is a surf fishing shop now, and everyone is building plugs. The market will change, threads like this make me think it already is. The cream will rise from the new crowd of builders and/or current builders will evolve and equalize or lower pricing as they add plugs to the market and demand decreases. Imagine if Gibbs stepped up their hardware and didn't change their pricing. On top of that the people who got into surf casting because it was all the rage and bought hundreds or thousands in plugs will be dumping their stuff. Prepare to score when that starts happening...

I've had 2 incidents at the shop in the past few months of people trading in brand new plugs that they didn't even buy here that are going on Ebay for $30+ for Super Strikes.

Lastly, Ebay is evil.

It has been eluded to or addressed already in here, but my opinion is two-fold

1. Supply and demand. As long as there is a demand, people would be crazy not to supply that demand.

2. There are people that think that more expensive = more fish.

Did anyone see what Al McRenold caught his record fish with? Times haven't changed that much. I am far from an expert, but I have fished along side some guys that catch fish reliably. And they aren't fishing $30+ dollar plugs. they are not using zziplex rods or Van Staals, or Calcuttas.

The flip side of the arguement is you have to have confidence in what you are fishing with. If fishing a custom zziplex and Saltiga with a $35 plug and you are confident or it increases your enjoyment of the sport - than you have done the right thing.

I know I buy the best of what I can afford to buy. Using that logic, if I had more money, I would likely have a better rod and reel, but I still doubt, I would ever drop $35 on a plug.

And lastly not eveyone is using these plugs casting from shore for stripers. If you are trolling some of them in deep water or casting to off shore fish with a lower likelihood of getting snagged or you could chase and retrieve a break-off casting, $35 is not unreasonable. there have been a number of photos posted that show these plugs catching other species off-shore. Ever look at the cost of big-game lures? $35 is not unreasonable - high, but not unreasonable.

-IWK

I've begun picking up doubles on plugs so I can fish one and save one. In other words I've sort of become a collector now. Like I dont "collect" enough stuff already!

What really shocks me about ebay is how a select few are buying HUNDREDS of plugs at premium -no, outrageous prices. Some builders can even stand to profit from a handful of guys, the way they have been buying. I try and pick up stuff at reasonable prices, and sometimes I succeed, but when you have to bid against some of the monsters, you always lose, because they will pay any price!

I am far from an expert, but I have fished along side some guys that catch fish reliably. And they aren't fishing $30+ dollar plugs. they are not using zziplex rods or Van Staals, or Calcuttas.

I understand what you are saying but some places that I fish, you need a Calcutta, or a modded Abu, or a 704 to fish - and a VS doesn't hurt - really depends on how and where you fish. I don't know what your friends are using or where they are using it but a few trips in some more difficult places to fish and they might see their gear start breaking down. Go run out with a Corsair or some of the other lower end reels and you can melt one in an afternoon. Same thing with spinning. I thoroughly destroyed a Nautil 6500 (black) in four days on 22-25 inch Albies. My Stradic would have been fine. But now if I dunked my Stradic all night it may or may not be fine. So in case I was fishing Albies submerged, I suppose a small Van Staal would have been great.

I also know that in some of the places I fish you can certainly use at least a Tica rod to throw around insteadof the overweight underperforming gear from S.A. and Wally World. Now getting into the higher end gear when applied to a more specialized type of fishing, you will usually reap benefit.

And it is not a money thing, a nice modded ABU can be had for less than a hundred (TCST + Smoothies) and you can get a 704/6 here or on FleeBay for short money and a handful of shops still have new. But it is knowing enough to make the right choices. For rods, you can get a 10' Tica for under $100 or into a custom fit 10 foot Batson or Patriot around $200 and not need to by an off the shelf Arra for $350, but the gear matches the condition. Some people can get along just fine with a Poncho, a Shakespeare or Zebco reel, and a "Blue Runner" or whatever they call those WallyWorld rods - more power to them. As long as THEY are happy. But they might be miserable after a week of fishing that stuff in more demanding conditions. I know I'm usually miserable when someone shows up with last years 3 dollar line on a less than maintained Penn 105 and line winder froze viscious wind knot blocking out everyone else on the drift. Ooopps - rambling...

While I can see issues with buying (then losing) $30 plugs, I can appreciate (but not always afford) the higher end gear. I got a Freak/Mac Flag Pikie this weekend that is PRICELESS. Someone new to fishing would probably be ill suited to an 11.5 Allstar and a Newell reel or for that matter an old Honey Lami and a Sqidder.

Now with plugs, I don't see myself buying $30 plugs for regular fishing. Perhaps if I really wanted one, I might but I'd be scared to fish it until after Clammer depletes the bluefish population. But I will spend $20 and change for the RIGHT plug. I will also be happy with $20 worth of eels for a night (nore to self, fish more eels this year)...

I agree with the Supply & Demand. I also agree with building plugs to catch fishermen. But I also appreciate the work that sometimes goes into these real custom plugs. Besides, when was the last time you could call Gibbs or SuperStrike or Bomber and have them make an adjustment or change for you... Or custom paint some plugs in a different scheme. SWE did that a few years ago with a Bomber color out of production - minimum order was SIX HUNDRED

My Stradic would have been fine. But now if I dunked my Stradic all night it may or may not be fine.

Why not buy a Sustain, at least you would'nt have to worry about the drag getting wet. Better yet why does'nt Shimano offer the waterproof drag on the Stradic??

I know I have caught some nice fis on wooden plugs. Do you need wood, absolutely not. I like using them, so I use them. Stetzko's fish was taken on a black teaser fly, McReynolds on a bomber, Cinto's on a wooden plug. I say use what you have confidence in, or what has worked for you in the past. I think the biggest rip were the plugs without hooks, going for close to $20 a plug. Some guys like them that way so they can just put on their own hooks. I think those plugs should go fo $13- $15. just my opinion.

Yes Ebay can suck. I see things on ebay selling for regular price or more all the time.

Watching the people line up for certain wooden plugs at the show last weekend kind of reminded me of the ladies lining up to buy Beenie Babies a few years ago.

Watching the people line up for certain wooden plugs at the show last weekend kind of reminded me of the ladies lining up to buy Beenie Babies a few years ago.


:laughs:

Plugs are now Market Priced. that means the price is whatever the market will bear. If people will pay $30 people will charge $30.

the thing I don't get is all the work that goes into the paint jobs. the plkugs are beautiful but a lot of the work is in the flawless 10 coat paint jobs and the sanding etc. I think the plug needs good action but i don't think they need 15 coats of perfect paint to catch fish.

Anyway , market pricing to answere you questions.

What's the answere , well until they are protected and you can't get anymore....eels.

Better yet why does'nt Shimano offer the waterproof drag on the Stradic??

Because you would not need the Sustain

if you can't pay, don't play. 'nuff said.

how many times can you beat a dead horse?

Now with plugs, I don't see myself buying $30 plugs for regular fishing. Perhaps if I really wanted one, I might but I'd be scared to fish it until after Clammer depletes the bluefish population. But I will spend $20 and change for the RIGHT plug. I will also be happy with $20 worth of eels for a night (nore to self, fish more eels this year)...



I think right now there is an awful lot of demand and not enough product, with time it will equalize. Surf fishing right now is saltwater fly fishing 5 years ago. The mentality is you HAVE to have expensive wood to catch fish. Everyone is a surf fishing shop now, and everyone is building plugs. The market will change, threads like this make me think it already is. The cream will rise from the new crowd of builders and/or current builders will evolve and equalize or lower pricing as they add plugs to the market and demand decreases. Imagine if Gibbs stepped up their hardware and didn't change their pricing. On top of that the people who got into surf casting because it was all the rage and bought hundreds or thousands in plugs will be dumping their stuff. Prepare to score when that starts happening...


I agree 100%.

We'll you heard of the expression "hook, line and sinker" :bl:

Seawolf,
it has nothing to do with not being able to pay at all... It comes down to a limit.... I'm sure that on your budget you aren't shelling out 35 bucks a pop for these plugs. like I stated earlier, I'm glad, i've got my stash of wood.

I'm out of this one. I should not have made it personal.

anyone making plug's right now could make them cheap,old spruce 2x4''s...no sealer...primer...one coat of paint...no clearcoat...cheap swivel's...galv. wire,,,cost?..$4.50 please.....then everyone would complain cause they only lasted for one trip or on one fish.....quanity or quality? you can't have both anymore,Those day's are long gone.

I buy what I can afford. Tica rods are light years beyond my Uglystik collection. They served me well, but are heavy. 704zs are my heavy reel of choice. They work hard and when I break 'em I, repeat even I can fix 'em. 35 dollar plugs? Glad I bought a lathe. Wish I had the bucks to spend, God knows that I would, but I don't.

I'm with TLap and CS here. But then again I found more 20-30 dollar plugs in the surf last year than I bought, by a wide margin :D
I can't help but admire the artistry......but I needed the Aquaskinz top more than ten or fifteen plugs.

I'm sooo glad i have a lathe :smokin:

if i didnt i would be paying 25 bucks for a needlefish...One night last summer i lost 6 needles in 2 hours- damn rocks :splat:

then again I found more 20-30 dollar plugs in the surf last year than I bought, by a wide margin :D


One night last summer i lost 6 needles in 2 hours- damn rocks :splat:


the ocean giveith - and the ocean takeith :D

i find plendy of washups, but it's usually junk - i need to fish downtide of you guys more :hihi:

maybe a couple colors though $7.00 SMACKITS!!! best plug out there. only my opinion though then its eels.

Tlap and wahlie-
Bringing someones personal budget and employment record into an open forum like this is very, very wrong. You should watch what you say, especially about people you claim to be friends with.
Insinuating that seawolf uses other methods to aquire plugs is also very insulting. I have known him for a long time and that boy has never taken a hand out or gotten anything from anyone that he did not deserve. He works hard for everything he has and never has had a dishonest bone to him.
The price of plugs is steep, but you get what you pay for. I have caught more fish on a $5.00 bomber that any other plug, but if I can afford and think a custom $35.00 plug will bring me luck, then I will pay for it. That is my perogative. We seem to forget that these guys are busting their butts to produce these plugs as a way to pay bills, as a livelyhood in some cases. Last time I looked, there wasn't a custom plug maker I knew driving a mercedes. If the plug builder has to charge $35.00 a plug to put food on the table for his children, then more power to him. If the price tag is too steep, then I guess you'll just have to save up to buy a custom plug. You do not need to use a big dollar lure to catch fish, and there are millions of lures out there that work for a heck of a lot less money. Crying about the price of plugs is pointless, and the last time I checked nobody was holding a gun to anyones head forcing him/her to buy an expensive plug. If the price is too much- don't buy it, or whine about it either.

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Tlap and wahlie-
Bringing someones personal budget and employment record into an open forum like this is very, very wrong. You should watch what you say, especially about people you claim to be friends with.
Insinuating that seawolf uses other methods to aquire plugs is also very insulting. I have known him for a long time and that boy has never taken a hand out or gotten anything from anyone that he did not deserve. He works hard for everything he has and never has had a dishonest bone to him.
The price of plugs is steep, but you get what you pay for. I have caught more fish on a $5.00 bomber that any other plug, but if I can afford and think a custom $35.00 plug will bring me luck, then I will pay for it. That is my perogative. We seem to forget that these guys are busting their butts to produce these plugs as a way to pay bills, as a livelyhood in some cases. Last time I looked, there wasn't a custom plug maker I knew driving a mercedes. If the plug builder has to charge $35.00 a plug to put food on the table for his children, then more power to him. If the price tag is too steep, then I guess you'll just have to save up to buy a custom plug. You do not need to use a big dollar lure to catch fish, and there are millions of lures out there that work for a heck of a lot less money. Crying about the price of plugs is pointless, and the last time I checked nobody was holding a gun to anyones head forcing him/her to buy an expensive plug. If the price is too much- don't buy it, or whine about it either.








This is a great point. Everything we buy has a fair market value. Apparently, the fair market value on these plugs is $35, because there is a demand for these lures. That means whether I or you choose to purchase a $20-$30-$40 lure, it is an individual choice. I would love some custom $30 plugs, but I view loosing one of those to the ocean as a serious loss. Which means I would be very careful about where and when I would use that lure. Which translates to me, not fishing that lure because of time or tide, that i deem more likely to get a hangup. So I choose not to purchase them.

I guess I am not sure why there is upset over this. If you think they are too expensive to be practicle you do not buy them. Just like every bit of tackle we purchase, there are varying degrees of quality on every product. You could pick up a cheapy combo at Wally-mart, an off the shelf ugly stick, a Loomis Rod or have a custom build. you can buy the cheapest reel you can find or a Van Staal or Saltiga. You can buy no-name or premium line, and terminal tackle. Why shouldn't there be a range of lures.

Buy the way - I feel extremely lucky to own a handful of very nice custom plugs that I won at various msba events. Including a treasured handful of Salty Buggers. I cannot wait to fish them, and guess what, if I am really succcessful, I will be buying some more custom built wood by a quality plug builder.

I guess I can step off my soap box now.
-IWK

The beauty of the situation is that they are available to everyone, but no one has to buy them. There are many choices out there, if you cannot or choose not to buy a $35 plug, fine. But for now there sure seems to be a big demand for these plugs. I am not a plug maker, nor do I care to be. but I was able to produce a well built, consistent, and predictable production of high quality plugs, and the market

I wasn't attacking seawolf and I don't claim to be his friend. I just think it's arrogant how people come out saying "if you don't have the money for a plug then find another hobby".... Yes, it's supply/demand but just like everything else in life there needs to be a balance... Hell, there will be people that will pay 60 bucks for a fishable.. that doesn't mean it's the fair market price....

Pffft.

Guns or plugs Wahlie, which will it be? :bshake: :zup:

hahahahha.... :devil: i can't even comment on that... :devil:

Unfortuneately some people cannot express their exact thoughts in words. As I said, I know Seawolf well and i know for a fact that he is not suggesting that if you are less fortunate that you need to find a new hobby. He is simply stating that if you cannot afford a habatat, then do not buy one. To sit here and say that plug prices are excluding some people from fishing is ridiculous. There are lots of options from 5 dollar rebels to 35 dollar beachmasters. It is the individuals choice to set their own budget and buy what you can afford, not give up fishing because you cannot buy the best of the best. There are dozens of lines of affordable fishing gear that catch, you need not spend thousands to get into the game. If you cannot afford a Rolls Royce does that mean you can't drive? I think not.
If I chose to spend $40 on a plug, it is because I can afford and want to, not because I need it to catch a fish. Lets stop making this personal, because the men that build those plugs earn every red cent they get and never truly get what they are worth. I know some of these guys, and in no way are they rolling in cash. They work hard to produce high quality products and when you put that kind of quality into it, the price will rise. This is not price gouging, this is providing quality for what it is worth. Are we slapping them in the faces by complaining about the prices? I think so. By btchn about the price it sounds to me like you are saying that the plugs are not worth it and that their work isn't worth the money. If that is your opinion then do not buy them.

I would not worry too much about the younger generation not being able to afford to fish....
These are the same people who will be shopping for $300,000 starter homes.

Its younger consumers from regions where wages are high that are looking for high-end stuff. If they can afford the house, the SUV, the gas, the high-maintenance wife - believe me - da' plug ain't much of a stretch.

I think it boils down to "He who dies with the most toys wins"
I have the "best (fill in the blank)" and it does'nt matter what sport or hobby you are talking about.
Fishing
Hunting
Golf
Cars
Model railroads
It also has to do with the elimination of the middle of the market, it's either Zebco or Van Stall. (That's a whole other story)
I know I still like my toys at 50.
I don't have the most expensive or shiniest but they work FOR ME.
And you are welcome to do whatever floats your boat.
On another related topic a guy on SOL is starting to build plugs as a hobby(I think) and is worried about going over budget, his # is 7500 Now thats scary

:devil:

i'm not a man of many words, as you can see from the number of posts, but i would like to put in my 2 cents if i could. Being a hobby plug builder and being self employed a few times i have to give these plug builders some respect. I build 2 or three plugs and they are close enough to being the same for me but to produce 1000 at a time, all the same!!! Overhead; shop, stock-wood,sealer, paint, hardware, machines, repair, maintenance, electric, heat, advertising, packaging, dealer mark-up,taxes, insurance, kids college, retirment and if you get to the point where you need to hire help...workers comp...etc...........
Can you justify $35? some will always say yes and some no. will i go out and spend $35 on a plug, yes, if i think that plug will give me $ 35 of entertainment. will i ever own 10 of them, no. To each their own as long as you are happy.
Thank you

I'm seldom a man of few words :chatter

But I second what Aqua-man just said :btu:

-spence

The main thing is that the STORE not the Builder sets the retail price. If people are willing to pay 30 in one store then the guy wil price them accordingly. I did a quick check around, and notied that different shops had different prices for the same plugs. Some plugs had a $2.30, some $1.30 shop around...

Also I have only seen one plug that was priced around $30. Most are $14-$25

Just wait fellas...the plugs from Taiwan and China will be (and maybe allready are) flooding the market which will lower the prices on the top brand makers. I bought some needles that look like superstrike plugs for 3$ a piece. These lures may not be the best or last as long but for 3$ I am willing to give them a try. I do not like the fact that the asian lures can undermine the local lure artisans with cheap labor but does the average fisherman really want to pay top dollar for a lure? I dont think so.

I believe that there are more "average" fisherman than experts so the majority of folks will choose to buy the cheeper lure....hell some folks spend 100$ on a combo while we (I) spend that in lures during a 1 of many shopping sprees.

They way I look at it is if the "cheap" lures swim just as well as the top brands then I cannot see spending top dollar on lures that a bluefish will destroy in seconds. In reality, how long does a "top brand" plug last..1 season...10 trips...or even 1 cast???

Walhie, I asked not to make this personal, lets not. My point was that these guys are not rich and making tons of cash on there wares. If you don't want to spend the cash, buy a lesser grade product. Last I knew, gibbs were still around $20, and lex were even less. Maybe those overseas plugs are just what you need.You are getting riled up over my opinion, which I am entitled to. I also do not want a pissing match, but you seem to want to throw pop shots and I will not stoop to that level. Don't want to spend the money, don't buy the plugs.

Cuz manufacturers realize there are knuckleheads who will pay $35 for a plug. :bl:
lmao,

For me, if I'm paying for a plug in the $30+ range it's going on the wall and not in the bag. It just doesn't make sense (in my wallet) to spend that kind of money when there are plenty of other plugs to throw which are similar and get the same result. Yes, the prices for wooden plugs are up there, but so has the demand and they go hand in hand. Be selective with your purchases to fit your go to successes. Be willing to repair and refurbish beat up plugs. Look for alternatives, experiment and try a little reverse engineering on your beaters.

i myself would never pay 35 bucks for a plug,but if you can afford that kind of money and the plug is a known fish catcher and is handcrafted like Gary2 and lefties wades etc.they are worth the money and enjoyment they bring to the owner. what gets me is the people who are paying good money for plugs that haven't even caught a fish.

First off I need to say hi to John :) still got snow lol

Below is a posting from freak-bay ... sounds like a deal to be had out there!

item 7142711936
the guy has a bunch of custom lures El Cheap (all this for 5.99)


YOU ARE BIDDING ON 1 NEW PREMIUM QUALITY PURPLE SPARKLE NEEDLEFISH PLUG LURE.

INDIVIDUALLY TURNED FROM PREMIUM WOOD, WEIGHTED AND BALANCED.

RECESSED MOLDED EYES, SEALED, PAINTED AND EPOXIED (2 COATS FOR DURABILITY)

ALL SS THROUGH WIRED AND HARDWARE. 8"LONG, 1.6 OZ

WITH VMC PERMASTEEL TREBLE AND DRESSED SIWASH TAIL HOOK

DEADLY FOR STRIPED BASS, AND OTHER GAMEFISH

Even better....go to NJ Tackle and make your own :bounce:

VB, still a few feet in the yard. 6dollar plugs, i bet the guy is still making money on themLOL

Is NJTackle getting a kickback on those Plugs?

Seawolf,... I'm sure that on your budget you aren't shelling out 35 bucks a pop for these plugs...

I wasn't attacking seawolf and I don't claim to be his friend. I just think it's arrogant how people come out saying "if you don't have the money for a plug then find another hobby...

to comment on my reason for why i posted as i did the first time...i have seen the same thread rehashed several times over the past 2 years. and it always comes down to the same points are made. then, i see it again the other day. many have already stated the same points i made in replys on those other threads and again here - it's a simple case of supply and demand, and personal choice. to the manufacturer that can sell every lure they make for $20, $35 or more, more power to you.

now, what was i referring to when i said, "if you cannot pay, don't play"? i was referring to those that complain about these "thru the roof" prices. plain and simple, don't buy them! you have a choice. i was referring to people like you and i and everyone else that wants to go surf fishing. i have fees and costs i need to pay to be able to fish as i do. i fish $20 lures a lot and lures up to $30 from time to time and continue to buy ones that are no longer made. i don't complain openly that i need to spend money for that lure. i buy it as it fits my needs and that is my cost to fish as i do. i also buy many $2-$7 lures too. no one forces one to go buy a vs, a penn, a beachmaster lure, a hab's lure, a tattoo 's lure, a mac lure, a salty lure, a high end lure bag, a navy surplus bag, a suv to carry your gear in to go fishing, a beach permit to drive on the beach, korkers, waders, a boga grip, donnmar pliers, a crease fly, a high end fly reel, polarized sunglasses, vmc hooks, a dozen eels, braided or mono line, etc. - you, the buyer makes that decision. some make decisions by what is posted on these sites because of quality issues or general feedback. others because their friends fish them. that's your choice, fellow angler. now, am i saying that "joe new angler" cannot come into this "sport" and fish because it's too expensive? no. joe new angler can fish however they choseto and buy whatever they want to. no one said a custom $35 lure makes you more successful. i can buy some of these custom lures and not have to worry about tuning, barrels breaking, cheap hooks, poor paint, or whatever quality control issues come up. but again, that's a personal choice. if one wants to go buy nj tackle lures, go right ahead. if one wants to go buy a lathe and build their own, knock yourself out. this was never a social class issue, but personal choice issue.

lastly, you and toby used poor judgement by bringing my personal life into a public forum. i would have had no problem elaborating on my initial reply, w/o the personal issues. it was wrong to make assumptions on what you thought you saw or believed instead of what is the truth. toby retracted his post due to our communication offline, but i still need to explain issues that were not true. you both made assumptions of my business relationships and try to make them appear as fact, again publicly. i do not receive lures for free. i earned what i received. i didn't know you had access to my purchases last year to see what i did or did not purchase. last i knew, i didn't work for you, so how do you know what i can and cannot afford? it's unfortunate that i need to come back like this, but i needed to explain the truth both personally and as a business, publicly as you did.

Is NJTackle getting a kickback on those Plugs?


Now thats funny.
You made my day. :thanks: :rotf2:

my most important plug is still only $3 for a bag of 6 at Walmart

*love* da storm shad.

my most important plug is still only $3 for a bag of 6 at Walmart

*love* da storm shad.

Wish they would beef up the hooks though on the smaller models, I know someone who took 5 fish over 35 pounds this year on that lure, I have caught nice fish on the smaller ones and Ive had fish snap those things like twigs too..