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hows this sound-
rod- gsb 1201-L
reel- Penn 560 liveliner
line- 20 lb Berkley Big Game
80 lb spro power swivel
leader- 50 lb berkley big game
hook- Gamakaksu 5/0 octopus
I was eeling with my Vs 250 and 200's..... didnt have much sucess to hit ratio.
likwid 06-03-2005, 01:49 PM I'd do braid... more sensitive.
I was doing the braid thing, problem was that when I was retrieving my eel at a slow pace, the braid would hang up all the time. braid sinks- mono floats.
JeffH 06-03-2005, 02:03 PM Been using braid for years with eels, no issues. Hold your rod higher.......
SeaWolf 06-03-2005, 02:07 PM it depends on how large of an eel you will throw. the 1201L doesn't have the power to handle large eels. it will load nice tho. 1201m is better for typical to larger eels. also, it can turn/handle a fish easier. now, cutting the 1201L may be an option too, but i like an eel rod to be at least 10'. 1204, same deal as 1201L.
MrHunters 06-03-2005, 02:08 PM i had good luck on plugs last night :)
although I cant say ive tryed eels yet...shhhhhhhh dont tell anyone :behead:
Mike P 06-03-2005, 02:34 PM How much 20 does that Liveliner hold? I'd want at least 160 yards in most places, maybe 200 minimum in a breachway or another place with good current. I can tell you that the 560 Slammer holds about 275 yards of 40# Power Pro.
1L blanks have changed from time to time over the years. I had one of the first 120 1L blanks (and everytime I mention this, someone asks, so I'll beat it to the punch--YES, I'm sure it was a 1L and not a 1M because 1) Lami didn't make a 10' 1M at the time, and 2) I bought the blank right from Merrick Tackle when they were still in Merrick and I did read the label ;) ). It was somewhere between today's 1L and the 1M in stiffness. It was a great eel rod for years until I got my hands on a Fisher. But I guess this doesn't help ya any, just rambling :spin: Point is, I guess, that the 1M would be a better all-around choice :humpty:
Rest of it sounds OK. Some guys will tell you to use a 6/0 hook, but I caught a lot of bass for a lot of years eelin' with the 5/0 bronze Mustad.
Bill L 06-03-2005, 02:39 PM Why the Penn Liveliner over the VS? Do you plan on switching to the baitrunner to let the fish run longer?
the spool says 120 yards.. and I'm down with that.. i dont think i will get spooled, although it would be great for bragging rights- it HAD to be a 50 :hihi: a nice tight drag, and i shoudl be all set, unless I loose a lot of line on a snag or if a fish breaks me off.
I have a M and an L, so I will interchange the 2 depending on eel size and conditions.
semper fi :rocketem:
fishaholic18 06-03-2005, 02:40 PM Last night: Plugs-8
Eels-0
eelman 06-03-2005, 02:46 PM 6/0 mustad 94150 :wavey: the best eels hook ever made!
Steve K 06-03-2005, 02:50 PM I like mono for eeling too. I have a 1201L that is my eeling rod. I don't want something stiffer because I don't want to cast off any eels. I can only think of one time that I missed a hookset with an eel on my 706 and 1201L setup. I like 6/0 Gamakatsu live bait hooks. I have been using big game leaders from 50 - 80 lbs. I am going with flouro this year.
fishaholic18 06-03-2005, 03:07 PM Lami 1213M....Eel slingshot....
reelecstasy 06-03-2005, 03:24 PM Lami 1213M....Eel slingshot....
Dats the one I want :hihi:
fishaholic18 06-03-2005, 03:25 PM Dats the one I want :hihi:
I built one spin, you have to try it. I like.
reelecstasy 06-03-2005, 03:32 PM I built one spin, you have to try it. I like.
:kewl: thinkin conv, but I would love to toss a few with yours first...all that batson talk gots me nervous :rollem: not to mention need a glass stick for the ditch...
Saltheart 06-03-2005, 03:35 PM I like the whole set up except the hook size. I would recommend 7/0 or even 8/0 94150. I think the Lami 120 1L is perfect for eeling normal shore waters. in a current like the breachways or a river you need the 1M.
I think on a spinner you want some whiplash or powerpro braid.
I don't think your success ratio has anything to do with your reel. It should improve with bigger hooks. Also , despite the slow retrieve (very slow) which can lull your senses , you have to be very , very aware and on the edge to do eels well.
capesams 06-03-2005, 03:39 PM were are all the conv. guy's :huh: 1088...400 cal....17lb. silver thread...5/0 mustad.......maybe missed hookin 3 fish in 50 ???
snake slinger 06-03-2005, 03:46 PM yea but there endangered
Saltheart 06-03-2005, 04:16 PM Just commenting on his set up. My set up is conventional a loomis 1266 with a Calcutta 400 spooled with 35 Lb spectron. I use a 30 LB Ande pink leader and 7/0 or 8/0 mustads. If for some reason I feel I need distance , I change the Calcutta 400 and put on a BG 6500CL or a 6500CS Mag Elite.
Do you plan on switching to the baitrunner to let the fish run longer? Yes... retrieve eel with bait runner on... bass takes eel, runs with it, click and set hook. on 2 differnt nights I had bass grab my eel and run with it for at lest 5 or 6 feet and not swallow it.
Slipknot 06-03-2005, 05:17 PM If I don't use my Lami SB1213M spinner, I go with my XRA1205 conventional, BG7000 reel, 30 lb magnathin if I don't use braid or 20 lb big game in some spots. I use a Mustad 94150 6/0 hook also.
I am using plugs till the fall or untill the m word gets too thick.
afterhours 06-03-2005, 05:21 PM can you reel with baitrunner on? on my shimano 4500 it engages when you crank it, same with some other b-runners i've seen. i like my old sabre 1088 with either 4500 emblem or vs. rod will handle a good sized snake.
can you reel with baitrunner on? on my shimano 4500 it engages when you crank it, same with some other b-runners i've seen. .
yep :D
fishaholic18 06-03-2005, 05:28 PM :kewl: thinkin conv, but I would love to toss a few with yours first...all that batson talk gots me nervous :rollem: not to mention need a glass stick for the ditch...
I'll eat my hat if you break that 1088 :hee: I beat the crap out of mine and have landed a lot of fish on it..it even survived a ride in the bed of Clammer's truck more than once....and it's been flawless.
JohnR 06-03-2005, 05:29 PM I like mono for eeling too. I have a 1201L that is my eeling rod. I don't want something stiffer because I don't want to cast off any eels. I can only think of one time that I missed a hookset with an eel on my 706 and 1201L setup. I like 6/0 Gamakatsu live bait hooks. I have been using big game leaders from 50 - 80 lbs. I am going with flouro this year.
No need for the Flouro at night, Sure, OK for daytime but totally unneeded at night...
were are all the conv. guy's :huh: 1088...400 cal....17lb. silver thread...5/0 mustad.......maybe missed hookin 3 fish in 50 ??? My goto was/is a Calcutta 400 or 6500ME with at least 20# BG Green and more recently 50 power pro on a 1088 Batson or befier 1088 All Star when needed... Tried fishing spinning for eels last week - did not feel good at all...
fishaholic18 06-03-2005, 05:33 PM I've never been a fan of circle hooks but I gave them another shot a few nights ago, I think the key is to not set the hook, I put the rod in a sand spike with the drag set just tight enough for the fish to be able to pull it. I had perfect hook sets, corner of the lip every time.
Fishpart 06-03-2005, 05:46 PM Like my All Star 1265 with the ABU 6500 with smoothies, it can stop a 30# 6 year old in a full run with a casting weight in his hand. 35# spectron. Mustad 6/0 gets them in the roof of the mouth 80% of the time. No swivel 30# leader albrighted to main line. If I'm in current All Star 1266 with ABU7000 and 50# spectron and 40# leader....
Once I use up the 50 hooks I have I'll be interested in trying circles. Joe Lyons sparked my interest and he claims to have quite a bit of success fishing eels on 11/0 Mustad circles...
hows this sound-
rod- gsb 1201-L
reel- Penn 560 liveliner
line- 20 lb Berkley Big Game
80 lb spro power swivel
leader- 50 lb berkley big game
hook- Gamakaksu 5/0 octopus
I was eeling with my Vs 250 and 200's..... didnt have much sucess to hit ratio.
I thought you were going to stay away from eels? :hihi:
fishaholic18 06-03-2005, 05:49 PM I thought you were going to stay away from eels? :hihi:
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
Mike P 06-03-2005, 07:23 PM I have 3 convench eel set-ups:
Sabre IGSC 1088 cut back to an 8/64 tip and Calcutta 400.
Loomis SW 108-20 with the same Calcutta.
JK Fisher 8420 cut to 9'7" from the butt, with an Abu 6500 or 7000.
The Fisher is sorta like a graphite 121 3M. More of a big water eel rod. The Sabre and Loomis are really a pleasure to use--light as a feather with tons of backbone.
Goose 06-03-2005, 07:26 PM Dats the one I want :hihi:
1213m
Dats the one I use,cut to 10' 6''
likwid 06-03-2005, 07:27 PM Lami XS861MC + 965 w/ 40lb PP or 6600C3LD w/ 20lb big game
Mike P 06-03-2005, 07:36 PM 1213m
Dats the one I use,cut to 10' 6''
That's a pretty good trick, considering it's only 10'1" long at full length ;)
Think you mean the 136 3M :grins:
I thought you were going to stay away from eels? :hihi:
I convinced a few guys i fish with not to use them, so they are conserving what I was going to conserve..:hihi: I release 90% of the fish I catch, so i think i have the right to kill some eels this season :D
Could just be you ran into a bunch of tail-pulling shorts - that was bound to happen sooner or later this spring.....
A buddy of mine would lower the tip and then pull the slack line with his other hand when he got short hits - he would hold the slack out with the rod tip down until he felt resistance, he then let the line slide back out, then set.
It works, but it usually just confirms that they were smallish fish.
Bigger fish don't tend to screw around with the eel. Try down the road about three miles.
Steve K 06-03-2005, 09:37 PM [QUOTE=JohnR]No need for the Flouro at night, Sure, OK for daytime but totally unneeded at night...
I am thinking about better abrasion resistance around the rocks and on full moon nights.
JohnR 06-03-2005, 10:20 PM Full moon nights I'll grant but I always felt flouro had less abrassion resistance
bassmaster 06-03-2005, 10:59 PM I've never been a fan of circle hooks but I gave them another shot a few nights ago, I think the key is to not set the hook, I put the rod in a sand spike with the drag set just tight enough for the fish to be able to pull it. I had perfect hook sets, corner of the lip every time.
I set the hook on them and dont miss.
I also use 94150 and I sharpen those , there a great eelin hook along with heathen fishing
Striperhound 06-04-2005, 04:20 AM What Joe said, down the road 3 miles
:whackin: :uhoh: :whackin:
snake slinger 06-04-2005, 02:10 PM 1201 m convench abu 7000 30lb big game 50lb flouro leader 6/0 gami live bait like joe said good size fish hit eels hard i dont let them run long a couple seconds then set .big fish will have the hook down in there mouth. schoolies will be hooked in the lips
Eeling the Canal;
SUR1267C 10'6" G-Loomis w/Calcutta 700 30# Big Game w/40# Seaguar Floro leader w/ a "5/0" Gamakatsu.
Beach's ASRS100M St.Croix w/ a Fin-Nor 16A 50# Braid w/40# Seaguar Floro leader w/ a 5/0 Gamakatsu,but that is If i was using eels :hihi:
Somebody mentioned something about holding your rod tip @ a higher angle, I agree w/ that you might wanna concider that as a facter,& dont forget braid cuts through water quicker than mono,pending on DIA.
Eben you make good plugs so don't sell you're self short.
5/0
i know my plugs work.:D got some fish 2 nights ago on one of my dannies, but honestly I am boored with plugging... I want to switch it up a bit. i will get back to plugs when the peanuts show :D
Notaro 06-05-2005, 10:54 PM i havent caught anything with eels on my 10 ft lami and 704Z and its spooled with 30 lbs fireline. so why do you guys like to fish with mono for eels? wouldnt u miss any slightest bite?
5/0, can u show me how to eel on the canal sometimes? I suck at eeling and would like to observe your ways.
I like eels i fish them kinda weird.I hold the rod tip way high like even back behind my head held kinda loosely.when I feel the pickup i lower the tip an reel up till i feel the line tighten an set the hook.It only takes a second.In all my time fishin I only cleaned one bass wit a eel in its stomach.I believe the hit eels out of aggression then try to kill em an spit em out.wit the fast hook set i started missin alot less fish.I don't like to mix my reels up it gets confusing.so i use a 706 wit 20 or 30 fireline. the 1L is to light for me I use the 120 1M, my 10' glass rod which is nice for eels or my 11 ft arra.
I hear you NiB on the reel thing. I used the penn 2 nights ago and I have decomissioned it..... i like my other reels too much. :love:
snake slinger 06-06-2005, 02:58 PM mono holds up better in rocks
i havent caught anything with eels on my 10 ft lami and 704Z and its spooled with 30 lbs fireline. so why do you guys like to fish with mono for eels? wouldnt u miss any slightest bite?
5/0, can u show me how to eel on the canal sometimes? I suck at eeling and would like to observe your ways.
I like eel fishing the Canal w/ Mono on my convench,you really don't miss many hit's cause you're drift fishing.You're line is already peeling off you're spool so when a fish pick's up youre bait you're line is comming off much faster,you're thumb should be on you're spool so you can monitor you're line speed rate.Some times you can tell when you're eels about to get picked off,it'll really goes nut's just before the fish strikes!
When Jigging the Canal you want braid there's no real strech on you line even when youre 100+ yards out you can feel everything.
Mike P 06-06-2005, 08:48 PM Joey--you can fish wearing boxing gloves and still feel a bass hit an eel, even with mono.
Backbeach Jake 06-06-2005, 09:08 PM Joey, MikeP's right. I think keeping a level head is the hardest part.When you feel the fish, it's hard not to set up hard and fast. Sometimes you can feel the eel slide right through the bass's lips. NIB's method may deserve some further attention.
bassmaster 06-06-2005, 09:17 PM I like eels i fish them kinda weird.I hold the rod tip way high like even back behind my head held kinda loosely.when I feel the pickup i lower the tip an reel up till i feel the line tighten an set the hook.It only takes a second.In all my time fishin I only cleaned one bass wit a eel in its stomach.I believe the hit eels out of aggression then try to kill em an spit em out.wit the fast hook set i started missin alot less fish.I don't like to mix my reels up it gets confusing.so i use a 706 wit 20 or 30 fireline. the 1L is to light for me I use the 120 1M, my 10' glass rod which is nice for eels or my 11 ft arra.
i fish the same way, there is a feel for it, I may take 1 step foward b4 setting up.
Live eel fishin acccounts for maybe 10 per cent of my fishing i would rather thro a rigged eel(with a swimplate/squid)I think they work as good or better especially in bigger water.I can't believe they are not as popular in RI an the cape.The're are many different squids to fish in big or flatter water in any level of the water colum.Like ditch says they really wac a rigged ell also.no guess work on the hooksets.They are kinda involved to wrap up prbly why not so popular.I know I should tro em more just dealin wit em is a pain.if i was gonna Go at i would set up a cooler an air pump for the truck an take all but a few plugs out so it would be eels an nothing else i know they produce but its just not a prefered style of fishing for me.
Notaro 06-06-2005, 09:45 PM Joey--you can fish wearing boxing gloves and still feel a bass hit an eel, even with mono.
lol, lol. okay, i have a abu 7000CL w/ levelwind and loaded 30 lbs braid on my 10 foot cnvench sealine-X rod. i can give it a try by spooling it w/ a 20 lbs test big game mono, but wldnt i need to put a shock leader and tie the hook directly?
eelman 06-06-2005, 10:55 PM Spool up with 20lb and tie a 50lb leader about 5 feet long to the main line then tie the leader direct to the hook with a polamar knot, tie the main line to leader with a bimini twist..no snaps, swivels etc...none needed
Notaro 06-06-2005, 11:09 PM cool, thanks, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. how many feet or inches do you put a rubbercore sinker above the eel?
cheferson 06-07-2005, 12:22 AM Im very interested in how you use the rubber core sinkers too? WHat sizes do you like for what conditions? I notice my numbers drop when the tide starts moving someplaces and i dont drag accross the bottom enough.
i fish the same way, there is a feel for it, I may take 1 step foward b4 setting up.
I know I have done the same thing.Just happens an I didn't think about it.
RIROCKHOUND 06-07-2005, 07:52 AM E... that convench set up you have is perfect..... I eel with my VS/1201M when conditions warrant it, (high surf and wind) but when possible my 1089 with a penn 525 and 50lb PP works pissah... at least it did this morning :D :D
eelman 06-07-2005, 11:16 AM The only place you need a rubber core is in an inlet, along the beach never use any weight at all! I like to place the rubber core inside the eels mouth before I hook the eel, this hides it and adds the weight you need. When you are fishing an inlet or chanell at SLACK take the rubber core out! only in deep moving water use the sinker........Later
Goose 06-07-2005, 06:20 PM I been slingin eels for three weeks now, i know some would say a bit early but I don't care. My spring fish have been taken on bombers over eels 10 to 1 at night.
Whats the deal surf gota start given them up.
fishaholic18 06-07-2005, 07:04 PM I've gotten 2 fish on eels so far this season, One short and a 35".
Been getting most fish on Canalman's and My wood plugs and Bombers.
IM hitting the Canal in the AM. w/ eels.
First time out this year w/ eels,things were slow for the first 1 3/4 hrs.then just before sun up they turned on.
Three fish 2 under 40" one @ 44".
Im grilling it now & enjoying the heat with some frosty's.
basswipe 06-08-2005, 03:53 PM First time out this year w/ eels,things were slow for the first 1 3/4 hrs.then just before sun up they turned on.
Three fish 2 under 40" one @ 44".
Im grilling it now & enjoying the heat with some frosty's.
Nice fish.
Can't beat grilling it and throwing back a cold-one or two.I'm doing the same before I head out tonight,though my fish was a leetle smaller than yours.
yheah bob thats what i'm talkin' about!! :btu: :cheers:
Nice fish.
Can't beat grilling it and throwing back a cold-one or two.I'm doing the same before I head out tonight,though my fish was a leetle smaller than yours.
Man it was a long time comming! Haven't had "fresh" grilled Striper since last Fall I had three cold one's to wash it down, 2 Bud's & one Black-n-Tan.
Hey Bart I heard you did Dammmmmmmm good this morning too:cheers:
i did aight :hihi:
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details I need details :boots:
T.orlando and I hit the same spot where i dropped a nice fish 2 nights before. i casted towards the same rock and bam! i had another ncie fish on. she took me right around the rock just like the other fish but this time i managed to get her off it and then Tony pounced on her when she got in close. fish ended up weighing 30.6, only 41". she was a real fatty :D
BTW, she wasn't caught on an eel...
tynan19 06-09-2005, 10:59 AM Eben, you should have seen Robs face it was priceless. A real fatty with nothing in her stomach. I can't believe that with the belly she had.
Hey Bob, can you lighten that background so we can see the spot?
redlite 06-09-2005, 11:39 AM They finally ate my eels this mornin. About time. :tooth:
heard you got a nice one mike :cheers:
tynan--it wasn't completely empty. she had seaweed in her belly :huh:
ThrowingTimber 06-09-2005, 03:40 PM Nice work guys! :jump: This time of year is like christmas aint it :bl: :devil: get to try all your new toys :jump:
Hey Bob, can you lighten that background so we can see the spot?
No sorry, but I'll take you anytime you wanna go :buds:
IM banging in tomorrow & IM gonna drift eels then @ sun up toss some new plugs that Bart,Bob Thomas gave me & fish my Friggin brains out :jump1:
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