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TheSpecialist
06-14-2005, 05:27 PM
Here is the problem my sister broke up with her boyfriend a little over a year ago. They own a house together my sister has a restraining order, and he is presently in Plymouth for violating it. Well every time my sister has to go into court, his whole damn family shows up. Today she went back to court to get back into the house, apparentl his new girlfriend is living there, and he is dragging his feet on buying my sister out. The judge told her she could get back in. Outside the courthouse one brother grabbed my sister on the shoulder and then raised his hand to hit her, his father grabbed his arm cause the was a cop around. Then in the parking garage the father grabbed my sister by the shirt, put his finger in her face andthreatened my sister, and my mother. My sister went to the police department to make a report to press charges and they told her to come back later. The father knows someone in the police dept, and they are dragging their feet. Is there anything else we can do. I have been staying out of it for all this time, and now I am pissed, and I am gonna kick someones ass. NO ONE should be putting their hands on my sister. It must run in the godamned family, that is why she got rid of the boyfriend. I told my sister next time she has to go to court I want to go. They pull this %$%$%$%$ every time, the last time my mother went with her they pullled this %$%$%$%$.

JohnR
06-14-2005, 05:43 PM
This is out of my leauge but I would assume your next possible route would be with the State Police (of which you know some) or the Attorney General's office. Local paper might be an idea to consider, down the road

Good luck for your sister... Sorry to hear she married such a low life

Saltheart
06-14-2005, 06:28 PM
I'm no expert either but I would go back to the police statuon and file an assault charge on both people who touched her. If they refuse to take the complaint , ask to speak to the Chief , if he won't take the complaint , call the mayor and go to the state police.

I would also find out what law enforcement agency is responsible for the security at the court house (county sherrif or something) and file a compalint with them too. If someone grabbed her in the court house , I would think the court house law enforcement would get quite upset about that.

You want as many people as possible to know , in writing that these people assaulted her so they put them on record in case it happens again.

spence
06-14-2005, 06:43 PM
I agree, the police can't deny you the right to make a report. It's possible they could say the action didn't constitute assult, but in the end that's for a judge to decide if you pressed charges.

Regardless, if there's a credible threat of violence...make sure it gets reported ASAP!

-spence

Uncle Matt
06-14-2005, 06:46 PM
If this was me and I was on duty I would;

Head to the State Police and explain the situation and the police department connection. Ask the SP to charge his brother with assault and battery(grabbing her shoulder), assault(for raising his hand to strike her but not) as well as intimidation of a witness. Do the same with his father for grabbing her, putting his finger in her face(assault), intimidation of a witness as well as threatening to commit a crime. You can't let these actions go unrecorded in case something happens.

If the SP are unwilling to assist you, go to the district court and take out the charges. Then contact the local PD and file a written complaint on the officer who told you to come back later. He basically blew you off. Followup the complaint with the mayor or selectman afterward.

PM me if there are any problems or questions.

TheSpecialist
06-14-2005, 07:00 PM
Ok thanks, I told my sister today to call the State Police, if the city pd won't do anything, this is bull crap. I doubt she is going to contact the staties, she doesn't even want to go back for the restraining order renewal. I am making her go to the court date next month, and I am going with her, it is the renewal for the restraining order. They don't have the nads to touch her in front of me. I just want to pop the father, and brother in the nose... :splat:

Slipknot
06-14-2005, 07:36 PM
That sucks Bill, you certainly have a reason to be infuriated. Try to keep a cool head and have some restraint. Bring a small handheld video recorder with you next court date and catch them with evidence if you can. Pieces of trash like that will never change, be done with them. Sounds like she may need a good lawyer. Sorry to hear that.

Follow Matt's advice.

fishaholic18
06-14-2005, 07:38 PM
I just want to pop the father, and brother in the nose... :splat:

Bill, as much as you'd like to, don't do it...You'll get F#@$%#!! and you won't be able to help your sister out.
Get the Staties involved, don't let them get away with this crap. :splat:

Raven
06-15-2005, 04:54 AM
get into there face...like a ball player does with umpires
but "no touchy...". and just remember to have a witness
if you are FORCED into defending yourself.....

fishweewee
06-15-2005, 05:47 AM
Bill,

Stay cool as a cucumber.

Your sister needs her family's help.

If you can, get videotape evidence.

State police is your next stop if you believe there is some level of misconduct going on at the local pd level. You can also try to speak with your State Attorney General's office.

Get someone's ear, and calmly state the facts.

Is there someone who can accompany your sister while she is out and about?

The Dad Fisherman
06-15-2005, 06:49 AM
One other thing too would be to make sure your sister has some form of Self-protection. If they are grabbing her now it may only get worse. At least get her some pepper spray to carry w/ her. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

And you are smart to go w/ her. if for anything some moral support.

MakoMike
06-15-2005, 07:07 AM
In addition to all of the good advice you've gotten for getting the police involved, also get a restraining order against the father and brother. For the judge this should be a no brainer, once your sister tells her story of how they are trying to intimidate and threaten her. Then if they persist they can join their son/brother in Plymouth.

bassmaster
06-15-2005, 07:27 AM
hi Bil sorry You got to go throuh that bull %$%$%$%$ buddy

Raven
06-15-2005, 07:38 AM
can get misinterpreted...(overheard). for example...
how many times have you ever said....
(and i'll abreviate the words:)
i'm gonna kill that mofo.....

or you do that and i'll kill you...you s.o.b.

even if what you really mean to say is....

i'm gonna kick your a$$...
or i'm gonna punch you black and blue....
--->in your mind...<---------
in court its based on the actual "word" spoken.....
same as kicking someone with a shoden foot ie (shoes on)
is an assault with a deadly weapon....so tak'em off first!
.....remember that.....

The Iceman 6
06-15-2005, 03:43 PM
Bill -

Sorry to hear that man. Bring the entire family to Charlie to the end rock in a noreaster and throw them all in. Problem solved.

Bill

Bob Thomas
06-15-2005, 04:55 PM
Bill,

Just remember to remind your sister that if she drops the order, the family has won! They are intimidating her just so she drops the order! Tell her to keep the order until things settle down!

TheSpecialist
06-15-2005, 05:24 PM
Thanks everyone.

Last night my mom went back down to the station, and talked with another officer who was very helpful. To make a long story short, he looked into everything that has already been going on between my sister and her ex, and then told my mother they would proceed with charges. I will be accompanying them to court from now on. My sister use to have an FID card, but she had let that expire. Unfortunately for her, there have been restraining orders filed by both sides, and that would keep her from etting a new Fid or LTC. Without the card she would be better off not carrying the mace up here. She has constant company with her, usually her new boyfriend, but he was unavailable to go with htem yesterday.

When I show up to court next time, I will tell those 2 MFer's that if they lay a hand on my sister again, I won't think twice about coming to their house to visit them. I know once they see me, they won't even look at me. I also have a friend whho is a Plymouth Co dep, and I am sure I could get life in jail made even more miserable for the ex...