Fellas,

Not sure what happend, but the plug swap kind of turned into a plug flop.

1. Tattoo - Darters White
2. Jenty - Popper Parrot
3. Slip - Needle ?
4. 10X10 - Surfster ?
5. Breezy - Popper ?
6. MR. Pogie - Polairs Pogie
7. BM - Needle ?
8. Krispy - Needle ?
9. Jenty' Bro - Needle Balck and Purple

I have only reveived two peoples plugs. Are you in or out? Reply needed by the participants on or before Firday the 4th or we will postpone this for another time.

We still have till the 18th to get the plugs in. :as:

Tattoo;

Me and my brother are still in. Mine are done and I think his are too. I'll talk to him tomorrow. Sorry I haven't sent them in yet, but you did say the swap was extended till Jan. 18th right?

Im In Bubba, I need to know how many to make and when Ya need them.....

I'm still in on this, they'll be ready

My brothers still in too Tattoo. :)

OK,
Make SEVEN. Have them here for the 18th of Januray. One plug will go to the Boss (John R). Included five dollars to cover the shipping back to you.

Bruce and Kevin, You extra plugs will be returned to you.

A Tattoo, 10x10 is in also, remember he pm'd me. So the total should be 8 unless Breezy is still in, then it's still 9 I think.

OK, just thought I'd let you guys know. I think you should still do 9 plugs in case Breezy doesn't check the net very often, that plug can always be returned to us. :)

Sorry, my computer has been screwed up latley, just fixed it two days ago. Im still in on the swap, but my plugs dont have an epoxy "shell". I havnt been able to find a store that still has it, most are sold out. They are all packed and will be shipped out this weekend. :-}

Tattoo;

I need your addy again. :( I had it on my computer, and forgot to right it down before I reinstalled windows. Thanks!

Deadline is Friday folks.

Mine and my brothers are going out in the AM! :D

I have to paint mine, Tattoo I will have to meet U ,If U still Love Me.....:smash:

WHOA NELLY

Ill take the extra plugs ! No reason to give them back to the builder . Ill test them out and let you know how many more Ill need for " testing purposes " .

Is this another plug ho party at bruces house ?

Nope - this is an offline swap....

But I have another idea :hihi:

Tattoo;

I just sent out my plugs and my brothers plugs. You should get them thurs. or fri. Thanks!

Last Day is today. If you havent sent your plugs, dont. All extra plugs will be returned to their owners.

Cuurent entries are:

SlipKnot
Mr. Pogie
Breezy Kid
Jenty
Jenty's Brother
Me

Seeing that there will be extra plugs, do all that have entered still want to give one to the boss?

Mike, 10x10 tried to get your address from you but you wouldn't answer him.. What's the problem?

Can't we wait a couple of days so he and Krispy can get them to you? we've waited this long,what's a few more days?

Slip, never got anything from 10X10. Did he send an email?

Cox changed some things on their end, my email address has changed.

I knew this would happen.

Ok, we will continue to beat this dead horse until it has turned into glue.

Slip conned me into it, in return he is going to teach me all about how to be a bridge troll....AND he said he was going to let me try out his Breakaway for a month. What a nice guy!!! :D

Disregard that last post.

If you need my address, send a pm.

Had issues, the epoxy is drying right now and should be in the mail this w/e.

Sorry to all for the holdup,
Krispy

Tattoo;

I sent your address to 10x10 and Krispy. They ARE sending them in.

john

im a meat Head

Which way was that?

I've been trading e-mails with 10x10 - he's been having trouble accessing the site properly but we're working on it...

Man this is getting like the WWF smackdown.:smash:

Folks, with some embarassment, I regretfully have to pull out of the plug swap, due to epoxy issues. For the second batch in a row, my plugs have been ruined by "sheeting" of the poxy, similar to water on a car. I've used 2 different types of epoxy on 2 sets of plugs and can't seem to remedy the problem.
Sorry to all those involved, hopefully I can make it up in the future.

If anyone has an idea of what may be causing this, PLEASE let me know!!

Krispy

Krispy, how about some particulars. What kind of wood are you using, what kind of paint, spray can? and if so enamel or lacquer, and what kind of epoxy. ...mrpogie

Im a meat head, there done....
I sent one to 10x10 and I have 7 so I will have to toss in a deffent one I guess, If Ya want Me In.
Sorry Tattoo For Being a meat head and T,in Ya off at Me:(
sounds dumb but I need ya address....
I know I had 9 and cant find the other plug??
we needed 9 right?

I'm using Home Depot dowels with regular spray paint. I tried both Devcon 30 and Famowood epoxy and both types did the same thing.

Krispy;

What are you mixing the Devcon with? When I first started, I was using a toothpick and I had that problem. Since then, I changed to an old butterknife for mixing and since I haven't had any problems. It seems the Devcon isn't as forgiving as everyone thinks, and has to be mixed well. Try that. Hope this helps.

johnny

Chris, can you think of anything you're doing differently in your procedure since this has started happening? Or any product you've changed ? ...mrpogie

I think it may be because I eopxied 1 day after painting. Could the epoxy sheet from curing paint fumes?

The paint should be good and dry and totally cured before epoxying. That can be a problem and sounds like what it may be.

Its gotta be because your not mixing it enough. I epoxy mine about an hour or 2 after I paint them. I haven't had any problems yet. Just a thought.

johnny

Krispy:

What do you mean by "sheeting?" Did the epoxy not dry after a couple of days?

I'm using Famowood and it takes about 12 hours for it to set up; a day and a half for the plugs to be handleable. But when they do dry, the finish is beautiful!

In another application a few years ago (model airplane wings), I used some envirotex, thinned with acetone, but I didn't mix it thoroughly enough before adding the acetone. It just didn't dry. I ended up having to peel off the fiberglass, wash the surfaces with acetone, and start over. But the second batch, stirred with about 100 strokes of a tongue depresser before thinning, worked fine.

As a result of that experience, I mix epoxy until I think it's ready, and then mix it again.

The epoxy dried, in about average time on the plugs that didn't work. Its that the epoxy drew together, like beads of oil in a frying pan. I've used Famowood on previous plugs w/ good success, except for a little dripping and Devcon 30 is the old standby. I used both types and they both did the "beading" thing. I now believe that the paint needs to be fully cured before epoxying.

Chris, are you using hardwood dowels and did you use waterseal on both batches. ...mrpogie

Yes and yes

Did you ever have a batch of plugs that were made out of dowels and used waterseal on that that the epoxy cured correctly. As I stated in an earlier post I've never tried waterseal on anything but white pine which is much softer and more absorbent than hardwood. Did you ever do a test piece of dowel? ...mrpogie

Oh yeah, I've got a whole line of metal lipped Dannys and Cowboys completed. I don't think the waterseal would affect the epoxy after its been painted anyways. Primer and couple coats of paint encapsulate the plug. I think its the paint that needs to be fully cured

Are you still using waterseal ?

For now, I read a thread about some stuff called Minwax wood hardner. This guy dunks the plug in a piece of pvc pipe with a cap glued on the bottom. He says the plug comes out very hard and sandable. I think I'm going to go to Home Depot and check that stuff out tonight. I'll let you know if I get it and how I make out. What's a cowboy? got a pic? ...mrpogie

I call metal lip swimmers "cowboys", I don't know where or why I picked that up.

Originally posted by Tattoo
Slip, never got anything from 10X10. Did he send an email?

Cox changed some things on their end, my email address has changed.



And your new Email address is ????

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