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JohnR 07-07-2005, 06:40 AM From BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm) Two die in London terror blasts
Two people have been killed and scores have been injured after at least seven blasts on the Underground network and a double-decker bus in London.
Thank god this has not been anywhere as extreme as it has been this morning and that this is the end of it...
Iwannakeeper 07-07-2005, 06:44 AM the initial report I got was 20 dead and 100s injured.....maybe early and mistaken data
likwid 07-07-2005, 06:44 AM 6 explosions apparently.
AP/EU is reporting possibly up to 130 dead.
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lurch 07-07-2005, 07:06 AM saw a report on CNN that there were double digit dead and hundreds of injuries.
likwid 07-07-2005, 07:12 AM 100+ confirmed by london medical committee.
JohnR 07-07-2005, 07:20 AM Most of the major news websites, including the BBC, are still reporting between 2 - 10 deaths and 200+ injured.
likwid 07-07-2005, 07:30 AM I have direct access to AP.
and the London Committee report is from a friend of a friend in London.
from the same person:
one of my mates said he was half way from old street station to goswell road when the explosion occurred - he says 4 minutes later and he would have been right there. his first text was "the c**ts missed me at old street
heh! lucky bastard.
afterhours 07-07-2005, 07:38 AM my brother in law works in the financial district in london and uses the tube exclusivly. trying to get in touch with him, have'nt heard from him yet. needless to say i'm a little worried.
likwid 07-07-2005, 07:41 AM afterhours:
only the Aldgate station near the financial district was hit.
the reports on tv are *kinda* off
edit: bbc is now reporting "over 100 casulties"
edit x2: british army is stopping buses and throwing people off and taping them off.
brighton tube station suspected of having another bomb in it.
Raven 07-07-2005, 08:02 AM if .....France had been chosen for the olympic games in 2012 if they would have been HIT as apposed to London. London has over a million cameras
all over the city...and you can bet that everyone of those tapes for the last week or so are being looked at.
afterhours 07-07-2005, 08:07 AM got this from my bro law-"Yes, we're both fine thanks. Sorry I meant to send you a mail. A tube station I travel through was bombed about 10 minutes before I got there (and I was running late this morning) so I guess I'm pretty lucky. It's really terrible, the city is in chaos "
i'm happy for that but very sad for those injured and killed.
likwid 07-07-2005, 08:12 AM ah: good news :)
another person that im getting stuff from was IN aldgate station when the lights went out and the mob ran for the exits.
*insert stupid luck and fate here*
JohnR 07-07-2005, 08:50 AM I doubt it was related to the Olympics announcment but the G8 in Scottland. It is possible that fairly significant anti-terror security resources temporarily transferred from London to the G8 summit would enhance the effectiveness of an attack.
I think if it were Olympic related you would think that Al Queda would have done the same in the other candidate cities, Paris, NY, Moscow, etc. If they had the capacity to exercise multiple events in multiple cities simultaneously that they would just do those events instead of risking their cells in preperation and exposure for those other cities and not launching the attacks.
Terror is used when it can create the greatest exposure, much of the worlds eyes are on the G8 and much less so the Olympic selection. With all of the expected protests (bet those die off quick), the concerts, and the news feeds, the coverage potential short term, and the long term "terror" possibilities of attacks coinciding with big events is the more likely reason for these attacks... But I'm just guessing...
Homerun04 07-07-2005, 08:50 AM Report: Islamic Group Claims London Blasts
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CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" posted a claim of responsibility for Thursday's blasts in London, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The authenticity of the message could not be immediately confirmed.
The statement, which also threatened attacks in Italy and Denmark, was published on a Web site popular with Islamic militants, according to Elaph, a secular Arabic-language news Web site, and Der Spiegel magazine in Berlin, which published the text on their Web sites.
"Rejoice, Islamic nation. Rejoice, Arab world. The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan," said the statement, translated by The Associated Press in Cairo. The AP was unable to access the Web site where it was posted, which was closed quickly after the reports.
The group al-Qaida in Europe claimed responsibility for the last major terror attack in Europe: a string of bombs that hit commuter trains in Madrid, Spain in March 2004, killing 191 people. Two days after that attack, a video was found in a trash can outside a Madrid mosque with a statement purported to be from the group's spokesman, called by the nickname "Abu Dujan al Afghani."
In the new statement, the group said "the heroic mujahedeen carried out a blessed attack in London, and now Britain is burning with fear and terror, from north to south, east to west."
"We warned the British government and the British people repeatedly. We have carried out our promise and carried out a military attack in Britain after great efforts by the heroic mujahedeen over a long period to ensure its success."
"We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan," the statement went on.
It was signed "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe."
Homerun04 07-07-2005, 08:52 AM The radical Muslims -- if that is who is responsible AGAIN for this terrorism -- are really destroying their own religion and themselves. Pretty soon, the entire world is going to put an APB out for anyone who is a Muslim....it really makes this religion seem vile and disgusting -- which is a shame for anyone who practices it without hatred. It is kinda interesting to see how hatred will always turn inwards and destroy the hater.......you live by the sword and you shall die by the sword. Good ALWAYS wins over evil. It is both God's way as well as the natural law of things.
IMHO, the good muslims need to rise up and destroy all these fanatics within their midst - or else the world is soon going to turn on ALL muslims given that we can't determine at a glance which one's are good versus which one's are evil. The only way to stop this terrorism will then be to stop ALL Muslims. Frankly, I'll bet if you were to poll ALL the citizens within the free world and asked them if their governments should eradicate all Muslims (yes.....genecide ; a disgusting concept when applied to good races, but what happens when we have a vile, disgusting and murderous race/religion/group of people...?) that you would get an overwhelming majority voting "Yes" -- at this point.
I am a known pacifict who practices peace for all people. But peace for all people is impossible if the other person doesn't want peace.
likwid 07-07-2005, 08:56 AM Tell that to Ghandi.
I'm sure he hasn't stopped rolling in his grave for a long time now.
BigFish 07-07-2005, 08:56 AM Money is not the root of all evil....I have come to believe that religion is the root of all evil! ALL religion! I am all set with religion of any kind! Believe what you want and I will believe what I want. Sorry for all those killed or injured....terrible thing. :doh:
Money is not the root of all evil....I have come to believe that religion is the root of all evil! ALL religion! I am all set with religion of any kind! Believe what you want and I will believe what I want. Sorry for all those killed or injured....terrible thing. :doh:0
I'm with you bigfish. Unfortunately since the dawn of time people have used religion to control people and manipulate them. Sucks.. totally sucks :doh:
Homerun04 07-07-2005, 09:11 AM I'm with you bigfish. Unfortunately since the dawn of time people have used religion to control people and manipulate them. Sucks.. totally sucks Agreed.....religion is an easy target for people to manipulate - or to use as an excuse for any behavior they so desire.
Funny - isn't it - that the leaders who tell these fanatics to go commit a suicide bombing in the name of Allah never strap on a dynamite vest of their own.....how gullible can these people be when even their OWN leaders wont do what they are telling their followers to do.
Makes me think of corporate America. How many jerk bosses have you worked for that asked you to do something that you didn't feel comfortable doing because they didn't want to do it.....and did you do it, or did you refuse to do it because you saw through them?
JohnR 07-07-2005, 09:19 AM Lets not turn this into a religion bashing experience. Terrorism at its root has been when people of an ideology; whether religous or political or commercial, is conducted by relatively small "fringe" groups in the name of that religous or political or commercial bend. The european terrorists of the 70s and 80s did not base their terror on religion, but ideology. These radical muslims create terror in the name of religion but it is their ideology that they are trying to advance thru terrorism. The drug lords that conduct terror in various countries do so in political and commercial ideology, having little or nothing to do with religion.
Some people just want to kill or are mentaly effed up and do so in the name of religion.
BigFish 07-07-2005, 09:21 AM Religion.....oh never mind! I believe what I believe.....and I am religious about it! :hihi:
Homerun04 07-07-2005, 09:29 AM Lets not turn this into a religion bashing experience. Terrorism at its root has been when people of an ideology; whether religous or political or commercial, is conducted by relatively small "fringe" groups in the name of that religous or political or commercial bend. Agreed....but in this case they ARE using religion as their excuse, so THEY made religion the issue.....not us.
Frankly, I beleive ideology is a fancy way of saying "mask"....all WARS come down to money....the "have nots" rising up to try to grab what the "haves" got.....that is all Al-Quada wants....to no longer have to live in tents but to have houses like the rest of us. It all comes down to power, and as everyone knows in this world we have created - money is power. The leaders know this, so they use reigion as a way to get the common foot soldier so enraged at the enemy.....the use of religion (or any "ideology") is nothing more then a propaganda ploy on their own people.
Flaptail 07-07-2005, 09:30 AM It's now 40 people dead (innocent people) and 300 innocent people wounded. Time to face up to the facts boys and girls, religion is the number one cause of our world's troubles today. You think it can't happen here? Just as there are Muslim extremists and good Muslims there is a growing front of Christian Extremeism in this country. Bombings and shootings at abortion clinics are just the start. Jimmy Swaggart, that two timing whore banging Jesus/bible spouting slime, tells people on his TV show each week that those who do not beoieve the bible is the true word of God, line for line are sinners and evil that most be converted or cast out of our society. Cast out? What the hell does that mean? Bible belt theaters refuse to show a film that shows the scientific view of the development of life on this planet. In thier view, everyone should believe that the earth is only 10,000 years old and Adam and Eve were the first man and woman. The fundemantelist Christian movement, now promoted by our Government, the President and the Religious right ( is that as in right as opposed to left or right as opposed to wrong?) is slowly overtaking our freedoms as granted by our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
There are those who would love to see the whole country under the control of Christian Fundementalism and I might inject probably secretly admire the way the Taliban ran Afghanistan and the way Iran's Imam's run thier governement. A country cannot be run on the values of any one religion, that would be obscene.
Gearge Carlin, the comedian said it best when in his monologue he cites religion as the major cause of war today. "Hey, do you believe in God?", "No", Bang! "Hey, do you believe in God"? "Yes". 'do you believe in my God"? "No". Bang! Seperation of Church and State, where did I hear that? Religious freedom protected by the Government okay. A government run by a relgion is not.
Time to take on religious extremism anywhere by any means nescesary before it enslaves us all. I don't think God meant it to be this way at all. Kindness, caring and loving each other is not a religious virtue by any means, that those virtues must be fostered in our children and in everyone should be the worlds guiding principle.
BigFish 07-07-2005, 09:33 AM Flap you are my hero! :claps:
Homerun04 07-07-2005, 09:35 AM Time to take on religious extremism anywhere by any means nescesary before it enslaves us all. Agreed brother....IMO all extremism leads to violence, because it fundamentally excludes other points of views, and tends to piss off the people who's views are not being listened too.
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