eelman
07-30-2005, 05:40 AM
Thought you may want to see this, I had to take the photo for someone else that is writing an article but anyway, thats how I hookem!
View Full Version : How I hook an Eel eelman 07-30-2005, 05:40 AM Thought you may want to see this, I had to take the photo for someone else that is writing an article but anyway, thats how I hookem! CAL 07-30-2005, 06:46 AM You should post your pics as a thumbnail. Side scrolling sux. eelman 07-30-2005, 07:39 AM man you guys will find anything to complain about :rolleyes: Fishpart 07-30-2005, 07:58 AM #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, I notice that you have a hook with a bent in point rather than the straight point. Is that your hook of choice? I find the straight ones hook up slightly better, but they do foul on the rocks more frequently so i guess it's a toss up for me. The pic is nice, I was lucky enough to have John show me your method... tattoobob 07-30-2005, 08:04 AM What size hooks do you use? Notaro 07-30-2005, 08:16 AM 6/0 is what he uses eelman 07-30-2005, 09:14 AM I notice no difference in the hook up ratio with the slightly bent hook but it will slide over rocks better again the hook I use is Mustad 94150 6/0 short shank live bait JohnR 07-30-2005, 09:47 AM That hurt my eyes so I adjusted the pic - all set.... LeCounts1099 07-30-2005, 09:53 AM Is this your rigging method for throwing live eels? Or is this for dead/ riggies? Seems to me that it might be tough keeping a live eel frisky throat- hooking it? (Or, am I wrong? Haven't tried it myself...) Boy, that's one heck of a barb on your hooks! I would think a sharpie (mostly) crushes that down? Must be hard to release Bass in good shape, if not? Yes, I understand that SOME barb is important/ necessary, to keeping the eel on the hook-- but the Gama Octopus 5/0 & 6/0's I use come with a much smaller barb to start with... and even these I crush 75% down, & see no downside to this lost amount of barb (but major up-side in releasing fish in good shape). Not "complaining," EM... Just asking/ wondering?... eelman 07-30-2005, 10:03 AM Nope never do I crush the barb on an eel hook, that would be the time a 40 hits! I never hook a bass deeper than the start of the throat and never have a problem getting the hook out for a fast release, in the rare occasion I have hooked them deeper I just cut the line and let them go, the hook rusts out in a few days. With one hook, I want every advantage I can get, crushing the barb would be counter productive.Often times a bass in the teens or 20s will be lip hookes and during the fight a hole will develop, sometimes that barb is the only thing that keeps them on! When I do use plugs, I crush the barbs on the trebles but, I always leave one hook intact on each treble it is still easy to release fish but there is some security. As far as the eel staying alive? I get a good 45mins to an hour out of my eels hooked this way, they live longer than hooking them thru the brain and out the eye socket. Oh ya, thats the way I rig for live eels.... One thing I have noticed when hooking bass, often times the hook "moves" you may have the hook in the mouth when you set up but during the fight the hook comes out and catches again in the lips, I swear I can feel this when it happens, I want that barb! eelslinger 07-30-2005, 10:08 AM That hook doesn't looked hand sharpened. Do you sharpen them? I usually have to sharpen Mustads myself. eelman 07-30-2005, 10:11 AM Yes I always sharpen them, I just used that hook on a dead eel for the picture, I sharpen them to a razor point.......... 5/0 07-30-2005, 10:46 AM That's a pretty neat way to hook-em,I've never seen it that way on a live eel.I kinda like the other way w/ the hook upwards I thinnk the eel would swim true,I would also tend to think the hook would get snaged alot more frequently. I like the Gamakatsu live bait HD 5/0. Thank's for sharing the pic! 5/0 eelman 07-30-2005, 10:55 AM Funny but the eel never gets snagged and acually the eel runs more true this way, the hook acts like a mini keel, anyway I have hooked them like this for years and it really works great macojoe 07-30-2005, 11:05 AM Thanks for sharing!! I will try this if I ever get to fish again! I am a Gammy hook guy also. fishaholic18 07-30-2005, 11:06 AM I'll have to give that a try. I've always hooked them uo thru the eye, but I'm willing to try new things. Part of the learning process. :D The only problem I've had with hooking them the way I do is that once in a while the hook will turn and the point will embedd itself into the eels body, maybe this will eliminate that problem. eelman 07-30-2005, 11:13 AM I'll have to give that a try. I've always hooked them uo thru the eye, but I'm willing to try new things. Part of the learning process. :D The only problem I've had with hooking them the way I do is that once in a while the hook will turn and the point will embedd itself into the eels body, maybe this will eliminate that problem. Dave, that is a huge reason to try this way, Its hard to explain but I will try.Once A bass hits the eel, the way I hook them, the eel rides right up the line! if you notice the way its hooked you can picture what I mean, the bass kind of pushes the eel off the hook and up the line it goes, leaving just the hook solidly hooked in the fish.Once landed just slide the eel back down on to hook again, I used to get that also where on the hookset, I would bury the hook back into the eel, no more........ Roger 07-30-2005, 11:22 AM I like the method shown by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& when casting round structure. I like the eye method when drifting over structure or 3 waying. The eels seem to swim down more vigorously than through the throat. FWIW, the point of hooking them through the eye is to miss the brain, which is between the eyes. The great thing about those hooks is that they are effective, cheap, and rust out quickly. Thanks for posting the pic. I'm sending it to a few people I know that are getting a start eeling. eelman 07-30-2005, 11:33 AM Alot of people think that the hook does not rust out but it does, If I leave my hook on the line when I get home without rinsing it, I am amazed how rusty it is the next morning.Those hooks are cheap, very strong, and promote release if hooked deep, its a great hook! Joe 07-30-2005, 12:30 PM That eel kind of looks like he is about to talk...I bet if he did, he would have a few choice words for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.... :laugha: :laugha: JohnR 07-30-2005, 12:37 PM Is this your rigging method for throwing live eels? Or is this for dead/ riggies? Seems to me that it might be tough keeping a live eel frisky throat- hooking it? (Or, am I wrong? Haven't tried it myself...) It's a tracheotomy for the eel but if it gets free (or released as a reward having coughed up some nice fish) the hole will grow over :hihi: . Just a little more incentive for your eel when you give it that pre-first cast speech. In the tone of Bill Murray "This ain't gonna hurt, Doctor's orders" fishaholic18 07-30-2005, 12:39 PM Dave, that is a huge reason to try this way, Its hard to explain but I will try.Once A bass hits the eel, the way I hook them, the eel rides right up the line! if you notice the way its hooked you can picture what I mean, the bass kind of pushes the eel off the hook and up the line it goes, leaving just the hook solidly hooked in the fish.Once landed just slide the eel back down on to hook again, I used to get that also where on the hookset, I would bury the hook back into the eel, no more........ Makes sense..I'll try it. eelman 07-30-2005, 12:42 PM That eel kind of looks like he is about to talk...I bet if he did, he would have a few choice words for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.... :laugha: :laugha: I am sure they hate it! John your to funny with the "Trachiotomy" :laugha: :laugha: Nebe 07-30-2005, 03:53 PM Ellman, what are your thoughts on Eel size?? personally when i eel, i shy away from little ones and super large ones. I like them around 12 inches. How about you?? do you think small ones are less effective? Sweetwater 07-30-2005, 04:13 PM Ellman, what are your thoughts on Eel size?? personally when i eel, i shy away from little ones and super large ones. I like them around 12 inches. How about you?? do you think small ones are less effective? Eben, I know your question is for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, but I find that the only real problem with small eels is that they are difficult to cast, especially into the wind. For surf-fishing, I like an eel heavy enough to get a good casting distance, even if the blow is a bit in my face. Notaro 07-30-2005, 08:20 PM Thanks, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Hey, off the subject, I tried whacking the eel and it kept moving (no jokes, please). It was my error to leave a bucket of 1/3 water and leave them in and swim around. I gotta put ices on it next time. 5/0 07-30-2005, 10:31 PM Alot of people think that the hook does not rust out but it does, If I leave my hook on the line when I get home without rinsing it, I am amazed how rusty it is the next morning.Those hooks are cheap, very strong, and promote release if hooked deep, its a great hook! I dunno bout you but IM to cheap to go on buying new hooks all the time or for that timely matter I don't have the time to hone down all of my hook's(new or old) before I go fishing.I constantly recycle my hook's.If my leaders are frayed I'll wash & re-ty them.If I bring fish home & if they are deeply hooked "I'll get it back" & re use it!I have also learned that Gam's really don't need to be honed "for that extra point" even after re-use IM not gonna preach but IMHO there the best friggin hook's out there.Just to put a twist on this thread I strongly feel that leaders are the way to go as well! 5/0 Young Salt 07-31-2005, 07:28 AM .If I bring fish home & if they are deeply hooked "I'll get it back" & re use it! 5/0 Hooks with mojo :kewl: eelman 07-31-2005, 09:44 AM Eben, I know your question is for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, but I find that the only real problem with small eels is that they are difficult to cast, especially into the wind. For surf-fishing, I like an eel heavy enough to get a good casting distance, even if the blow is a bit in my face. To answer Eben, I also like a medium eel, More so than length I like girth! eels in the 12 to 14 inch range are my favorites and I like a "good looking eel" Nice white belly and dark on top. Yes small eels work but dont cast well especially for me using conventional gear. I stay with mediums and want them fat. eelman 07-31-2005, 09:52 AM I dunno bout you but IM to cheap to go on buying new hooks all the time or for that timely matter I don't have the time to hone down all of my hook's(new or old) before I go fishing.I constantly recycle my hook's.If my leaders are frayed I'll wash & re-ty them.If I bring fish home & if they are deeply hooked "I'll get it back" & re use it!I have also learned that Gam's really don't need to be honed "for that extra point" even after re-use IM not gonna preach but IMHO there the best friggin hook's out there.Just to put a twist on this thread I strongly feel that leaders are the way to go as well! 5/0 Cheap? You have to be joking right? I buy my hooks in bulk, I mean they work out to be a few cents a piece?? No need to recycle. The gamis are ok but the octopus hooks are way to thin for me and tear thru the eel to fast, The mustads are just a perfect eel hook in size, length etc..And it only takes a second or two to sharpen them to a razor point. The gamis come out of the package very sharp but, hit a rock with it once and you need to re-sharpen anyway?? Roger 07-31-2005, 11:13 AM Once a hook starts to rust it becomes abrasive to line. Risking a nice fish for the sake of an 8 cent hook seems like false economy to me. 5/0 08-01-2005, 12:14 PM Cheap? You have to be joking right? I buy my hooks in bulk, I mean they work out to be a few cents a piece?? No need to recycle. The gamis are ok but the octopus hooks are way to thin for me and tear thru the eel to fast, The mustads are just a perfect eel hook in size, length etc..And it only takes a second or two to sharpen them to a razor point. The gamis come out of the package very sharp but, hit a rock with it once and you need to re-sharpen anyway?? No,IM not joking!I'll recycle all of my hook's when givein the chance.After a use I'll inspect my hook & leader if the leader is frayed I will cut it off & re ty the same hook,but if it's good I'll wash the hook & leader off when washing my gear.Sometimes I'll have a hook w/ some rust on it I'll soak it or them in warm water & dishsoap after a while it's brand new. I'll buy in the 25 count Gamakatsu 5/0 live bait HD's. I don't know if that's what you concider bulk size,but it's big enough for me.I'll bet an Octopus would tear right through an eel I have felt that it would so I have never tried,I tend to that style only on chunk's. Again nice pic & thank's for sharing. 5/0 Nebe 08-01-2005, 01:56 PM I'll bet an Octopus would tear right through an eel I have felt that it would so I have never tried,I tend to that style only on chunk's. 5/0 they do tear out- i used to use them and couldnt figure out why i was loosing my eels. a fat hook is better. 5/0 08-01-2005, 02:37 PM I also feel that the Octopus style hook's are to long for an eel,one would tend to think an eel could have too much leway & work it's way off the hook. Eben have you tried the Heavy Duty Gamakatsu?There meaty compaired to the standard live bait. Saltheart 08-01-2005, 03:08 PM I like a big hook. I have gone from 4/0 to 5/0 to , etc until now I use 8/0 94150 (as you get older paranoia sinks in! :) ) (same mustads as #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& but bigger). I decide how to hook based on how hard I am casting. if its just getting them out there , I like the bottom exit . If I'm casting hard , I like the top exit through the eye. If I'm ripping them hard to get to a hard to reach area , i like to exit behind the head. I slap the eels tail on the rocks (or truck tire) before hooking. I like the eels to be as big as possible but no cobra head. I like black eels but big green ones are OK too. These days you get what you can. On the retreive , I like a ten count per revolution of the handle on an ABU 6500 size reel. That's mighty slow. If you are not sure if your speed is right , go slower. Nope slower...nope even slower than that!! :) Nebe 08-01-2005, 03:51 PM Eben have you tried the Heavy Duty Gamakatsu?There meaty compaired to the standard live bait. no i havnet. i dont eel much.. im a danny junkie. this fall i might eel more if i can find some time- :soon: ThrowingTimber 08-02-2005, 06:08 PM Anyone have any thoughts on the hayabusa hooks for tying up eel rigs? Are they worth it? striperboy3754 08-03-2005, 11:45 AM Thats cool how you hook it throught the mouth... will the stay alive as long as the other way or will they stay alive longer... striperboy3754 08-05-2005, 06:48 AM I wonder if that would work on shiners ?????? Back Beach 08-05-2005, 08:29 AM To all you eel fishermen, just my .02 cents. I typically fish eels in a fully dead state if fishing at night. I may insert lead or other additives into the mouth to sink them. I typically hook just behing the eyes through the bone in the head. This way the eel never comes off the hook from long casting sessions. The other advantage is if anything attempts to grab the eel, you will not mistake it for the eel itself in panic mode. How important do you think it is to use a fully live eel at night? By day in the boat I will always use a lively one, but night either off the boat or surf, I usually fish them dead. I will throw them in the sand, stretch them out to break the backbone, and on the hook they go with a 6/0 octopus. TwitchellCreek 08-05-2005, 08:53 AM Nice visual! I'll have to give it a try. I would think that the hook would get snagged up a lot, but I won't assume until I've given it a try LeCounts1099 08-05-2005, 11:27 AM Great Post/ point, Back Beach! I was thinking the same thing myself! (i.e., who said the cast & retrieved eel at night must be live or lively to be effective? Or that there's only one way to rig for "all" eel casting approaches). My added 2 cents to your point, though, is somewhat disagreement, if I infer correctly that you fish primarily the sandy beaches of the Back? My take is: IF I'm fishing shallow rocky/ structure- heavy spots when eeeling, then I prefer dead/ totally non- lively eels (fear of hanging- up, & other reasons too). But IF I'm fortunate enough to be fishing the snag- free (but unfortunately now seal & cocktail- Blue infested) Back Beaches I love so much too, then I like to fish my eels live always, given the choice. No, not lively! -- I'm fishing only for my trophy/ "50," never #'s, so I adhere to the belief that SLOW & easy works best for Momma. Dead is not necessary for her to decide to pursue/ take-- but slow/ wounded/ near dead, etc., yes, I believe so! :read: Changing topics briefly, for sure if I were choosing to use conventional gear w/ 40 or 50 lb. test to throw my eels, or even spinning w/ 50+ lb. braid (never touch the stuff myself!)... then for SURE I would avoid using Gama Octopus' : as to my field- testing they are "light, thin" & thus less strong eel hooks than are other options (#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s Mustad choice being one, or my preferred the Owner (Gorilla? Not sure offhand). But: as I am a 17 - or 20- lb. test Mono guy always when throwing eels from Sand... I can use the Octopus hooks & receive their special benefits (thin is always better than thick/ heavy when hooks are discussed in live bait fishing), without worrying about my 5/0's opening up when the big girl takes, which I'm convinced they would with heavy gear/ drag/ pressure. Finally, given a choice of what I'm throwing in rocky/ sticky spots like Quonny, Nobska, Sqibby, Block, etc. : I'd be using dead eels on a heavy- duty hook, on conventional 30 or 40 lb. gear/ mono. But as I'm stubborn, & dislike conventionals in the surf, I've gone the VS 300 w/ 25 lb. mono route for that application/ unforgiving turf. So far so good: only lost 2 "50s" that way since in those type places! (Used to lose "tons" w/ 20 lb. mono)... :exp: RIROCKHOUND 08-05-2005, 11:55 AM I use the mustads bill showed but 7/0, I like em, but they do rust quick!!! (ie dont rig sluggos with them (d'oh) I used the gami octopus the last two seasons in my skiff, 50lb braid on medium convench gear; fish up to 37lbs, never straightened or broke one.. do they tear easier? maybe... I switched to the gami HD's this spring and found them effective, but more expensive.... A hook is a hook, we all have preferences; I saw if it aint broke dont fix it... Bryan LeCounts1099 08-05-2005, 12:14 PM Hi, RI Rock! No, if you're boat- fishing, & can ease up on the smooth drag of a conventional reel-- & take your time & ease fighting w/ a cow-- then the Octopus' are good to go! BUT: if you're fishing a rel. tight drag because you're in a rocky surf- spot, & muscling with beefy gear 40+ lbers. in fear of them getting their head down & into the rocks scant feet below the take... then yes, the Octopus' will be in grave danger of opening up in that scenario! Strength counts from rocky surf spots like Montauk or Point J., really more than anything else, in ALL your terminal & other gear. (I wouldn't fish a "fishy" plug at these spots, if it wasn't also industrial- strength in every- way!)... I have a (modest) boat too, so I'm not anti- boat. But to me, gear/ tackle- wise, boat fishing is "easy," compared to what's necessary in the craggiest surf spots for us crazy wader- clad nocturnal trophy- hunters! (Who re- live their lost very big fish way too many times, whenever it occurs! :scream2: Fishguts 08-05-2005, 12:14 PM I gave your method a try last night at the canal if you have not tried this method of hooking eels its worth a try. Thanks for the tip! eelman 08-05-2005, 12:21 PM I gave your method a try last night at the canal if you have not tried this method of hooking eels its worth a try. Thanks for the tip! glad you liked it RIROCKHOUND 08-05-2005, 12:29 PM LeCount.. maybe you've never fished in tight to structure where I fish at drags that EXCEED the pressure I can/have to put on big fish in the surf... in open water, yeah I can let em run, but in a minefield of lobster gear or tight to a rocky shoreline, that bass cant have their head.,... put it this way, my drag is such that a good fish will tow my boat.... In the surf 70+ nights a season (not all with eels) I am fishing 20lb mono, 50-80lb leader and the 7/0 mustads.... never had a prblem there either... Mr. Sandman 08-06-2005, 07:52 AM I would think it hangs up more like this but I will give this a go. For the last 3 years I have switched to circle hooks with eels for release reasons and have been very pleased with my ease of hook up, fewer dropped fish and mostly jaw hooked fish. The reason this appeals most to me is because the hook has a lot more eel meat to bite into and the eel probably stays on the hook longer. When you have a jaw-eyesocket hook after a while it works the hole larger and in some cases you snap them off. That said, it is soft tissue where that hook is in the lower postion you have and it might open a big gap quickly. When you go thru the eye socket you have some skull that makes the connection a little stronger. I will have to try it to see for myself. Next time I am eel fishing I will give it a try. Thanks for the pic. eelman 08-06-2005, 08:30 AM Well Sandman, I am going to say this once again, very rarely do I cast an eel off or does the eel tear free, it holds well. The hook will slide up towards the mouth a bit due to the stress of casting but it simply does not come out often.Also I dont get hangups that everyone is worried about, just does not happen. I do not baby my casts either I use conventional and lay into my casts good. As far as boat fishing, I see no reason why someone cant use this hooking method in a boat, I am sure it will work. snake slinger 08-06-2005, 03:26 PM eels dont hang up much no mater how you hook them i will throw a eel were i wouldnt dream of throwing a plug. leptar 08-08-2005, 05:26 AM Well I tried #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s way, and after the second cast off i went back to hooking them the old way... At first it was wow easy hooking thru the mouth and out the throat.. 4 casts later and it's flying... rehook another and about 5 casts it the same story... screw that... using the same hooks on 40# fluro to 20# big game on a 704z and lami tri-flex combo... after i was all tired i tossed a dead eel in my bucket... i rigged it up #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s way again and inspected it every cast but i didn't lay into the casts... about the 5th cast there was a tear about 3/4" long where the hook has done it's damage... his way might be great with a conventional but not so good with spinning gear... NIB 08-08-2005, 07:21 AM I have to say i agree.I use 7 or 8/0 or even bigger live bait hooks.kinda between the HD's an the octopus.I also siwash an sometimes 8/0 owner octopus hooks. depends on my mood. .the bigger the hook the harder it is to penetrate.I have also felt the hook pop out of a spot in the mouth an rehook in the jaw on the way out. I feel the way I hook em the 5/0 is kinda small.I hook em behind the gills an up thru the back of the head i hate castin eels off.they stay alive long enough.seems to work good for me.i think hook bending or breaking depends on how the hook is set in the fishes mouth sometimes there is just nothing u can do.I have put quite a bit of pressure on some good fish wit the octopus without problems.I have 2 friends who landed a 57 an a 60 in a 6 knot current wit em.I would stay away from the smaller ones though.i think its like tyin knots u find one that u get right an u stick with it thats the best way.U don't make mistakes u learn what works for u an u get comfortable.a 80 percent knot is as better than a poorly tied 90 percent knot. eelman 08-08-2005, 10:32 AM Well I tried #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s way, and after the second cast off i went back to hooking them the old way... At first it was wow easy hooking thru the mouth and out the throat.. 4 casts later and it's flying... rehook another and about 5 casts it the same story... screw that... using the same hooks on 40# fluro to 20# big game on a 704z and lami tri-flex combo... after i was all tired i tossed a dead eel in my bucket... i rigged it up #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s way again and inspected it every cast but i didn't lay into the casts... about the 5th cast there was a tear about 3/4" long where the hook has done it's damage... his way might be great with a conventional but not so good with spinning gear... Something isnt right, There is more stress involved in casting with conventional than with spinning, if anything the conventional is going to cast off more eels, again somthing is not right.... I dont cast off eels and I lay into my cast. So I would not say "screw that" When its abvious your doing something out of whack. I had an eel on last night that lasted me over an hour. hey whatever method you guys use eels work, I dont care how you rig them, I was just showing what I have done for 20years with HUGE Success. DZ 08-08-2005, 10:42 AM I think I know why you may be ripping them off on the cast. I also hook eels out the bottom of the mouth. Make sure you go at least 3/4 to one inch inside the mouth before you bring the point out the bottom. If you go any less they will rip off on the cast. Your hookpoint should be in the throat before you bring it out the bottom. Depending on the size of the eel and size of your hook you may see the eels head actually curve a little from the hooks bend while hanging on your line. Hope this helps. DZ Nebe 08-08-2005, 10:56 AM IMO,the only difference between casting conventional & Spinning is that you can get away with a jerky cast with spinning. A conventional reel doesnt like jerky casts, and a jerky cast will also make your eels rip. Also, the type of rod blank your using will make your eels rip or fly off the hook. Most eelers like a a parabolic blank as opposed to a fast action 'popping' blank as the soft action of a parabolic blank will allow you to 'lob' an eel pretty far without worrying too much about ripping the hook out of the eel or making a huge hole in the eels head. Heres a great example- last season i was using a VS25o paired with a batson 1208 which was a pretty stiff, fast rod.. i cast off and ripped alot of eels- This season i am using an Abu 6500 Cs mag on a Lamiglass 1201-L cut 4 inches off the tip- I dont eel alot, but when i do i rarely cast off any eels and i never rip any since i switched to this combo. I think it has more to do with the fact that I am always thinking about not backlashing so i always do a smooth cast. eelman 08-08-2005, 02:39 PM I think I know why you may be ripping them off on the cast. I also hook eels out the bottom of the mouth. Make sure you go at least 3/4 to one inch inside the mouth before you bring the point out the bottom. If you go any less they will rip off on the cast. Your hookpoint should be in the throat before you bring it out the bottom. Depending on the size of the eel and size of your hook you may see the eels head actually curve a little from the hooks bend while hanging on your line. Hope this helps. DZ good post! eelman 08-08-2005, 02:56 PM This thread is getting beat to death! :yak: Eel fishing aint that hard! :jump: Mr. Sandman 08-08-2005, 03:01 PM Its a moot point anyway...next year after eels are put on the endangered species list you will all be fishing with slugos. Looks like that is could actually happen too. eelman 08-08-2005, 03:10 PM Its a moot point anyway...next year after eels are put on the endangered species list you will all be fishing with slugos. Looks like that is could actually happen too. Nope will not happen and, if it does? its very easy to pot them yourself and take what you need for fishin, very easy :btu: :btu: Mr. Sandman 08-08-2005, 03:18 PM It is on the fast track and it very well could go thru and should it (probably this winter I would guess) it would be illegal to "possess" them...not just buy them you can have one in your possession. And this includes the European raised eels, as they are also the same species as ours. This probably will happen. eelman 08-08-2005, 09:57 PM It is on the fast track and it very well could go thru and should it (probably this winter I would guess) it would be illegal to "possess" them...not just buy them you can have one in your possession. And this includes the European raised eels, as they are also the same species as ours. This probably will happen. I have talked to some very reliable people who tell me at the fastest it will be two years! I am not worried and I tend to trust the people I talk to, they are in the know! And good luck to the eel police trying to find a guy on some rock pile in the middle of the night slingin eels, I am not the least bit worried. Also what I have heard from people at high levels in DEM and marine fisheries is that what most likely will happen is that there will be a limit you can have in possesion, instead of buying as many as you want it may be something like only 6 per day. at any rate eels wont be hard to find. Lets wait and see, my eels pots are ready! but honestly, its not going to be a big deal nightprowler 09-14-2006, 07:12 PM Alot of people think that the hook does not rust out but it does, If I leave my hook on the line when I get home without rinsing it, I am amazed how rusty it is the next morning.Those hooks are cheap, very strong, and promote release if hooked deep, its a great hook! Here's my dilemma...i use gami circles, and although rare, i sometimes gut/deep hook fish. Is it true that the hooks rust out? if so i guess i should be leaving a lot more hooks in fish. in years past i cut the line and released the fish, then i thought it couldn't be good for the fish having a hook lodged in its perforated gut so i started keeping gut hooked fish, and either eating them or giving them away. what do you guys do if you gut hook a fish? thefishingfreak 09-14-2006, 07:21 PM jam your hand down it's throat and unhook it.if you can fit your hand in you can get it out easily. scoolies cut the line. i will bet it takes over a year for a hook to rust out of a fish. if not longer. fcap60 09-14-2006, 07:37 PM I've been hooking eels down the throat, similar to the way #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& does it for years. Another advantage is that you can cast them for long periods without tearing the eel. When you hook them through the lips, I find they tear easier. Just my .02 spence 09-14-2006, 07:53 PM And all this time I've been hooking myself in the bottom lip and just stuffing the eels in my shorts :err: It's no wonder I'm not catching any fish :boots: -spence Skitterpop 09-14-2006, 08:04 PM Thought you may want to see this, I had to take the photo for someone else that is writing an article but anyway, thats how I hookem! That is sick and cruel...you horrid man :fishslap: Megabyte 09-14-2006, 08:48 PM e#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, Thanks for the post. There's a lot of us beginners that appreciate it. riarcher 09-15-2006, 02:55 AM Hmmm, Very interesting how I've been sucessful, while doing it all wrong! :eyes: Not the first time I've noticed this though, probably not the last either. Beginning to think there's more than one way? :bgi: stiff tip 09-15-2006, 04:24 AM how do u get them to eat the hook ???? NIB 09-15-2006, 08:34 AM This was a good post by Bill. An He says he doesn't care... I wanna see how he hooks a bunker.. Adamfishes 09-15-2006, 08:41 AM What about hooking them through the tail. I heard that if you do that you can just toss it out and leave it to swim around and you don't have to constantly reel in. eelman 09-15-2006, 10:39 AM This was a good post by Bill. An He says he doesn't care... I wanna see how he hooks a bunker.. That post is old......Anyway bunker get a 4x strong VMC trebble right in the nose!! Thats it! eelman 09-15-2006, 10:40 AM What about hooking them through the tail. I heard that if you do that you can just toss it out and leave it to swim around and you don't have to constantly reel in. No way your serious...however if you are, no dont do that Rockport24 09-15-2006, 10:49 AM I know this post is wicked old, but I referred to it before I started eeling for the first time this year and it helped a bunch! I hooked them exactly how #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& suggested and except for a few cast offs (probably due to not hooking deep enought down the throat) had no problems, some eels stayed alive and on the hook for a couple of hours. Oh and I also bashed them on the rocks if they were out of line. RIROCKHOUND 09-15-2006, 10:57 AM No way your serious...however if you are, no dont do that Sounds odd but I DID read somewhere that the cobia fisherman do that... maybe they arent head hunters??? the hooked then like 1/3 of the way back through the flesh... 4/0 trebble.. mmm... shad :jump: Adamfishes 09-15-2006, 12:42 PM um sorry? vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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