:wall: :rocketem: :crying: They own me :bc:

u r everyones bitch :)

time for a career change.
if you keep feeling that way then its time to look at other options.
its seriously not good for mental (or physical) health.

we weren't made to be slaves to a system.

Took me 30 yrs to learn, don't ask, tell.

I'll be out next Fri. Not, can I get next Fri off? :bshake:

Pete

Took me 30 yrs to learn, don't ask, tell.

I'll be out next Fri. Not, can I get next Fri off? :bshake:

Pete
Thats the ticket! I finally worked the stones to tell not ask. At my age I should'nt need "permission" to take a day off.

move on. Life it too damn short to spend working a job all the time. Scale back your excesses and work less, fish more. It can be done. Look at it this way. You just missed the best inshore tuna bite in 2 decades...because you were working. We all have to work but we don't have to be slaves to the job. (also, don't wait to retire to do these things...chances are you will be dead (from working too hard and worrying) or be in poor health and unable to do the things you want to do)

You need to ask yourself (and spouse) one question :chatter .... Is this what we want? If so, keep at it. If not, change your lifestyle. Do it. You will enjoy life a hell of a lot more.

What Mr. S said. :D :hihi:

i'll third that sentiment...

.................i have moved on .... :uhuh:

First move is the hardest.....second is a little easier......third like old hat....and so on.....it is the cycle of life young dude.....you'll never learn anything staying in the same spot all your life.....like striper fishing.....try another spot if this one is boring....then you'll be able to compare things and learn about things.

the time to do it is when you're young...

that's what i did,,,and saw the whole USA

if i had waited til now or even longer still

it would never have happened.

one, and only one word...."PRIORITIZE".....you'll be glad you did.

I kinda feel the Same way, only not owned, rented! They're beating the crap outa me!!

Delivered 7 projects this week, worked late last night, the night before that, etc etc etc etc etc... Almost inherited a new one today... :gorez: Finishing dinner now.. Im going fishing, I do take time off just got back from Cali. they pile stuff on me whenever Im not there... WHite board in my office now reads: and for my next trick I'll pull a rabbit outta my hat....... :hihi: And I did miss the tuna bite :wall:

Timber, work sucks period... i own my own business and i am miserable half the time. every job sux every single one. i bet some guides hate guiding. :yak6:

I think it's easy for guys who don't have kids , or are empty nesters or have the house paid off to say just find something else, move on...Yeah , in todays economy ?? and if yer dreaming of that house...sorry Vic , but unless you hit the lotto , you are a slave , and there's alot of us in that boat. :rollem: johnny

Timber, work sucks period... i own my own business and i am miserable half the time. every job sux every single one. i bet some guides hate guiding. :yak6:
Is it that bad Eben?
I am thinking of doing something on my own.

Ahh quit yer bitchin and get back to work :lasso:

Wait until you get a mortgage, kids, college, orthodontics, vet bills, car payments, and you'll want to talk aobut being owned :exp:

:p

F $%#$%^& work for yourself // sometimes it sucks // but I,m fishing my ass off right now & catching // & I ain,t stopping ...

Johnny / it all depends what ya want in life & how much bull s hit you,ll take // years ago when my family was still all in the house /// I had a tit job //but still had to bust my ass // I worked as accountant for ITT for 15.5 years //I was nuts then too /but they wouldn,t get rid of me because i was a good worker & was real good with numbers // I had full medical ,dental ,a investment account ,5 weeks vacation ,plus sick days ,holidays , life insurance/& a descent pay // but I still commercial fished /both rod & reel & quahauging ..
well One day I just quit /at age 36 to go full time commercial fishing // I never looked back & I,d do it again // I,ve never worked for anyone else again & that was 22 years ago // In the next few weeks /once I figure things out /I,ll find a way to scale down even more ///

Sandman is soooooooooooooo right // F $%^& retirement /too mant people count the days until ============== and they never get to see it //

save ,work for a rainy day / why ?????//// either ya make things work or wait for the sun to come out ><>><><><>

Oh almost forgot // when I worked for ITT /almost every lunch I went to the Portuguese Sport Club // shooting pool & drinking C/C & coke ////WTF
I would have been higher up in management if I was a golfer ,Instead of a fisherman ..............................<>>>><<>>< :walk:

But in golfing you have to wear those silly pants and goofy shoes.

Tim-Tim, I sympathize. I've already worked 42 hours this week, not counting today. I had to go pick up a dozen 1.5 gallon buckets of caulking yesterday, and a bunch of other equipment. I have a tiny, relatively nice sports car. Well, the dude loaded my car, ramming one bucket into my cd player (it's a trunk one) multiple times, smashing a bucket into my better rod and reel, and leaving grease stains on my back seat. :exp: I tell ya, my little car is a far cry from the company truck. And I got no compensation. Among other things, that is a reason I am getting out. It's hard; people get stuck in their ways and don't want to move or change, no matter how young or old they are. But once we do, I assume it will be glorious. Until then, don't let the man get you down. :happy:

I work full time but get payed part time benefits because they hired me for part time. :doh: Then work another 20hrs at my other store. Used I feel. If it wasn't for the wife and kid and family around here I would be gone. :walk:

i have typed a response to this thread 3 times but deleted it every time.

i think i will keep my oppinion to myself.

i have a present for you Vic.

Unfortuately I will be out of town this tuesday.

we should hook up soon, though.

_Z_

Wait until you get a mortgage, kids, college, orthodontics, vet bills, car payments, and you'll want to talk aobut being owned

thanks for the perspective!

Yeah, thanks Bill.

Glad I broke up with the girlfriend just before fall......and got a place a mile from Moonstone!

Is here.......... for most of us.

Freedom is a motherless child ... R.H.?

I can't believe I have to work tomorrow. At least I put my foot down slightly and said only half a day. But I need to be up at 315 (AM!!) to pick up the 3 $hitbum employees that don't have cars, and go to the job. Not just to finish, but RE-caulk an entire side of the building. Yeah, they said they knew how to do it, and when I brought the materials, they looked at the guns funny, and I had to show them how to mix the caulk. I show up this morning, and there are waves of caulk pouring out of the window seams. ACK! The incompetence of others cost me my Saturday morning sleep-in. Jerks. :lossinit: :hf1:

..

3 years ago my daughter, our first child, was 2 months old. I was so miserable at work, her birth was just another thing I needed to worry about. Should have been one of my happiest moments. I felt used and more importantly, I was comprosing my values and beliefs by staying in an unhealthy environment working for complete morons. I was feeding her a bottle at 3 am and said to her that someday I have to look her in the eye and explain to her that I sold out and why. I didnt have the courage to do what I thought was right. I wondered how I could look her in the eye if I did not have the confidence in myself? My position was a VP in a very large investment company, a dream job for some. The next day, I went to my management and gave them an ultimatum, make these changes, or else. Two weeks later they told me to screw. Here I was with a newborn and unemployed, mortgage, cars,etc.. I busted my butt to find a new job despite a bad economy. It took me 4 months Now, I have a great job, better pay, better people and I am happier. You have to be true to yourself. Some places are not good places to work, some people are not good to work for.

just like the cartoon above Vic :)

Just think , your single, not like us,house,cars,kid's wife :)
After working 18 years at the same place, 1/2 cut in pay , still have not rebound in 4 years , u r lucky ,,,,plus u r young ,,,,u slut bad u

After over twenty years of work, I've come to several realizations.
1) You are replaceable, no matter what you think, the company is not going to end without you.
2) You are only worth a percentage of what you made them.
3) The only person who gives a sh@t about you is you, they only care about what you made them
4) If it's not MY time,then it's their time, and they have to pay, no free extras.
5) If you don't ask, they wont offer, and if they do you're getting really screwed.
6) No job is worth more than my family, I don't care how much money, time with my wife and kids is priceless.
7) I was looking for a job when I took this one, I'm not afraid to look again.
8) a hundred problems solved today, a hundred new ones tomorrow. Give a 100% everyday, thats all anyone can ask.
9) Most important, when you leave work, leave the job there, don't bring it home, it will still be thier when you get back.
10) You spend more time at work then with your wife, do something you love, and have funn doing it!!!!!!!!!! :kewl:

After over twenty years of work, I've come to several realizations.
1) You are replaceable, no matter what you think, the company is not going to end without you.
2) You are only worth a percentage of what you made them.
3) The only person who gives a sh@t about you is you, they only care about what you made them
4) If it's not MY time,then it's their time, and they have to pay, no free extras.
5) If you don't ask, they wont offer, and if they do you're getting really screwed.
6) No job is worth more than my family, I don't care how much money, time with my wife and kids is priceless.
7) I was looking for a job when I took this one, I'm not afraid to look again.
8) a hundred problems solved today, a hundred new ones tomorrow. Give a 100% everyday, thats all anyone can ask.
9) Most important, when you leave work, leave the job there, don't bring it home, it will still be thier when you get back.
10) You spend more time at work then with your wife, do something you love, and have funn doing it!!!!!!!!!! :kewl:

Right on!! :btu:

Pete

If you have some capital I will offer you a chance to be your own boss I am looking to partner up with someone. I need a New limo come April and I am looking for someone that wants to be an owner and have a financial stake with this company to help make it work I know what Im doing! the work is here! I just need someone committed to being an owner I am tired of workers who do whatever they feel like doing because of no financial responsibility put your money where your mouths are. oppurtunity is knocking are you ready to open the door and step out into ownership if not get back to work!!!!! :yawn:

Guess I fall in with the kids, mortgage, orthodontics, car payments, miscellaneous expenses crowd. The man owns me bigtime. I've survived 21 years where I am including a handful of layoffs, I don't make a huge salary, if I were laid off today I would never be hired by another company doing what I do now because I don't have anywhere near the background, it was all learn as you go. I find work is a trade off. I don't necessarily like what I'm doing now and the pace in communications technology is killer, with unreasonable deadlines and often more unreasonable co-workers, which makes it even less appealing, but I have good benefits, sick days, personal days, over a month's vacation a year, the occasional bonus, and probably most importantly to survivalat worek, a good sense of humor. I shake off the day on the drive home and walk in the door to the three reasons I put up with it everyday- - -my great wife and two girls (and a cold, cold beer or two).

Vic, find something that you like doing and go with that. If you like what you do, find another place to work that is more to your liking. Every job has its bad points (thats why its called work ;) ), but overall, should have more good points. Yeah, there are times that I am down on my job, but still enjoy what I do.

Jigman