View Full Version : TUNA Frustration


Van
09-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Spent a good 4-5 hours on loads of tuna today, they were everywhere !!!

I was chasing and casting and i had many good chances cause they were
everywhere.

Fish coming clear out of the water smashing and crashing. I must have had 50 good casts. Over and through them, behind and through them, in front in back, next to them you name it,,,,out of all that I got 1 bump. :mad:

They were even all around my boat while I was just sitting engine off. Casted til my arms hurt NADA !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally I just had to get home. "FISHLESS" and frustrated. !!!!!!!! :mad:

BigFish
09-02-2005, 07:23 PM
What were you throwing Van?

Van
09-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Mostly metal lures, a few top water too.

But I have some metals all rigged up with BIG heavy hooks..

I have to get more various lures to increase chances.
They were feeding on very small bait fish.

I'll be out there again REAL soon.....

BigFish
09-02-2005, 07:28 PM
Large topwater wood! :bounce:

Raider Ronnie
09-02-2005, 07:31 PM
Large topwater wood! :bounce:

:doh:
Deadle #^&#^&#^&#^&s!!!

BigFish
09-02-2005, 08:01 PM
Wood! ;)

Pete_G
09-02-2005, 08:53 PM
Throw those topwaters some more, and work them as fast as possible.

Jumpin Minnows and Yozuri Hydro Pencils in particular. Walk the dog type lures are the best. Bone color Jumpin Minnow is my weapon of choice for picky tuna.

It's tough to throw on the heavy gear that you need to fight those fish, but it works in a big way...

MTC
09-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Deadly #^&#^&#^&#^&s... let them drop... turn off your engine

Flaptail
09-02-2005, 09:32 PM
Troll. Birds and GMs plus birds and daisys. Bling trolling works best make them come to you.

Nebe
09-02-2005, 10:27 PM
bring out a 10 foot surf rod.. i did and loved every second of it. :smokin:

riverrat2
09-02-2005, 11:11 PM
Your gunna think I am crazy but, the 3" storms in bunker. I know plenty of charter guys around here who have been the only guys hooking up because they are throwing these. Next time give it a shot.

Team Rock On
09-03-2005, 07:21 AM
Try using small metal with small hooks. I've been using 4/0 Gam. live bait hooks. Last Sat. went 0 for 30 using 50lb fc, on Sun. dropped it down to 20 lb and went 2-6. Fish had 1 1/2" peanut bunker and 1" shrimp in it's stomach. Hooked one last night and it had 2
5" spike mackeral in it's stomach. Most of the fish are around 30 lbs so heavy gear isn't needed.

devils fiddle
09-03-2005, 07:53 AM
silver crippled herring, cast and let sink. fish on. at least thats what i heard works from some guys on the net. :biglaugh:

staltershoal
09-03-2005, 09:34 AM
how big do they have to be to keep them?

Van
09-03-2005, 10:16 AM
Thanks guys, I did try all the metal I had, I also got info from a friend that Yo-zuri hydros have worked.

I had storms in the box, but that is one thing i did not try.

Next time I'm gonna bring everything, and I mean everything,,,

,,,EVEN WOOD,,, :huh: :huh: :wavey:

Van
09-03-2005, 10:16 AM
how big do they have to be to keep them?


27" min...

maddog2020
09-03-2005, 11:01 AM
Small Tsunami shads - BLUE. 3" size - MOTOR them as fast as you can reel. Remeber the bait fish is fleeing for it's life. ;)

Small Yo-zuri Hydrometals jigs - change them to a stouter single hook.

Maria jigs - forget the name exactly - clear plastic over some foiled pattern - not many places carry them - sell out fast!

Try going down to thinner/lighter poundage Fluoro leader as well.

Hooking up & landing the fish are two different issues. Get them on first THEN worry about boating it.

If you decide to route of surf rod - be sure it is a blended graphite or better fiberglas - leave the high modulus at home.

Tuna make all other species seem like wussies fighting. Big adenaline rush - BIG fun! Good luck, Van!

Mr. Sandman
09-03-2005, 12:51 PM
Van,

they can be picky and sometimes I think they just like to jump around sometimes and are not feeding, but all of a sudden the bite will come on. Hang around the area.

I prefer tiny metal with small but really strong hooks. Hydrometals, braid jigs, etc all work, but keep it light and I would fish them with 20# spinners and avoid the heavy stuff unless the fish are big, then troll. Use a floro leader. Avoid big stuff, I did ***much*** better with a small jig. Also the fish I caught were ***stuffed*** with tiny baby squid about 3/4" long.

Another thing I do is you can troll a couple of yozuri deep divers on while you are patrolling the area. Many times you will pick up the lone soldier on these and they tend to be bigger. I like a braid line with a long floro leader for this set up.

catchem up!

Van
09-03-2005, 07:08 PM
With everything you guys suggest, i was pretty close to right on. I know they were feeding cause I could see the baits in the area and the birds were getting what they could.

The fish were 20-30 pound class, awsome sight coming clear out of the water like a freakin missle. I will diversify my gear and hope my next time out they are there as thick. Small jigs with smaller hooks, maybe some teasers, and def try storms.

SM: I did troll as well, but i think i had better shots gunning over to them, the guys in the bigger boats were just watching me. I did not see any trollers or chummers hook up.
Wish i had something to show them !!!!

TheSpecialist
09-04-2005, 06:18 AM
Next time use an M-80 :hihi:

nautibuoys
09-04-2005, 08:43 AM
We hit 7 and boated 6 yesterday, all using Yo-Zuri Hydro poppers. They wouldn't hit silver or the blue/white Atom poppers, or the metals. They liked the small Yo-Zuri in blue or green mackeral best, but the larger one worked almost as good (and we're able to cast it much farther over the school and bring it in to them). We remove the front treble and add an Owner 1/0 4x treble-wicked sharp and much better than the stock Yo-Zuri hooks. Another trick is to slow down; make a big splash, let it lie, another, let it lie. The tuna picked it up like it was stunned bait. Anyways, we had out share of frustration when you bring the lures through and not a touch!

Van
09-04-2005, 10:48 AM
I found some hydros, but they are about 3-4" long, the bait they were on was eally small. Do they make hydros smaller???

nautibuoys
09-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Maybe freshwater, not sure, but the Hydro's are thru-wired. The 3 5/8" weighs 7/8 oz; the 4 3/4" weighs 1.5 oz. As you mentioned, they are feeding on small bait but the slow, big pop, let it sit a second, pop again and repeat then let 'em eat, worked for us. Hope I didn't just jinx myself...

Pete_G
09-05-2005, 12:36 AM
I found some hydros, but they are about 3-4" long, the bait they were on was eally small. Do they make hydros smaller???


I'm still not sure how important "match the hatch" is. Out the 100's we landed off of Newport, almost none were on baits that matched the bait in the water. Our best and smallest topwater offering was easily twice the size of the baitfish the tuna were eating. We got them to eat Dannys and other weird stuff. They will eat anything anytime some days, but usually what they want is something weird (as in something that doesn't match) when they're being picky.

Van
09-05-2005, 06:55 AM
I have loaded up with more variety of lures, I think I going out tomorrow.
I also on vaca the wek of the 12th. IF the weather holds up I'll be fishng and fishing and fishing.....
If i do hook up, I have you guys to thank.

maddog2020
09-05-2005, 01:52 PM
The Hydrometals (hydro jigs) can be found small. My smallest are 18 grams (~ 2"). Cabelas has some of the small 5/8 oz in stock for $5.95. ;)

None of my local shops ever have any in stock - sell out FAST. :(

Raider Ronnie
09-05-2005, 06:37 PM
Van,
Did they look like this?
3 of us went out yesterday and had a fun day!
We were hoping for one large one, but managed to land 4 of them this size,
But I only got this 1 picture because the batteries died in my digital camera!

Got Stripers
09-05-2005, 10:22 PM
I had a customer order 100 of the olive/gold 9" big jerks 2 years back for tuna, so he's targetting them with a big sand eel imitation.

Flaptail
09-06-2005, 05:00 AM
Van,
Did they look like this?
3 of us went out yesterday and had a fun day!
We were hoping for one large one, but managed to land 4 of them this size,
But I only got this 1 picture because the batteries died in my digital camera!


Gotta love the black and purple squids. That's been the hot color for me and my crew.

Raider Ronnie
09-06-2005, 05:42 AM
Gotta love the black and purple squids. That's been the hot color for me and my crew.


:kewl:

vineyardblues
09-06-2005, 12:20 PM
Went tuna fishing on friday off blank blank ton's of whales. Very fishy out 24 miles. Got lucky on green houchies, other boats used pink.

sAT I went out with another friend,diff location. got another with the same but also used
slugo's .... All I can say is try white slugo's :) and hang on :) ><> ><>

VB

Flaptail
09-06-2005, 01:21 PM
Try CCB. Two miles outa the canal and it's SBFT city. Diff fishing than out east of Chat-Ham. No likey rigs in CCB just likey sluggies and yo's cast from le bateaux! hundreds of them. :wave:

Striper1
09-06-2005, 04:33 PM
Great thread :eyes:
Two trips to the BF trolling stuff one bluefish to show for it :shocked: Sounds like I'm half way there....I'm working on it. Boy do the bluefish hit like a ton of bricks when trolling at bluefin speed....I need more time off from work to get this right :soon:

Van
09-07-2005, 07:39 AM
Yesterday (Tuesday) NADA...It was a dead sea out there.

No birds, no breaks, no blues, no TUNA..2 whales....got home early though...BUt it was an awesome day on the water. (weather wise).....

:doh:

thefishingfreak
09-07-2005, 11:24 AM
we hooked one monday on a sm. jet right off the stern blind trolling.
they wouldn't hit anything thrown at them.
very rough out there and they wouldn't stay up for long.

Van
09-07-2005, 12:54 PM
Taking some vacation next week, and I gonna try and try and try and try and try and try and try and try and try and try and try !!!!!!!!!

thefishingfreak
09-07-2005, 01:35 PM
pssst. i got monday off and gas money :hidin:

taJon
09-07-2005, 01:39 PM
I think I found us a ride :claps:

thefishingfreak
09-07-2005, 07:22 PM
looks pretty rough for this weekend north wind and high seas.

blue oyster
09-07-2005, 08:41 PM
i gave it a shot today didn't see any , tried blind trolling but there was a lot of chit in the water , got a couple of good size boofish but not a sign of any sbft got beat up a little , kind of snotty out there today . im on vacation next week might try agian but there are good morning tides hopping for some good striper action :D