just so u guys know J&h on Long Island is having a sweet sale on vmc trebles. 3.99 for a 25 pk of any size!!! They pkgd under rapala vmc but they are the reg 4x vmc's. apparently rapala bought a ton of their hoks and repkged them with their name and vmc underneath. i wasnt going to say anything but since i wnet and bought 5 pkgs of any size i could find yesterday i thnk im good fer a while. :rotf2: