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Fish_Eye
10-05-2005, 04:16 PM
Hi Everyone,

I had the pleasure of working an early morning tide today with Ken Zwiko, AKA Cowhunter and he's given me permission to reveal one of his secret spots; as you'll see from the picture attached, there are no boats visible because nobody's ever heard of this place. Cowhunter’s code name for the spot is "The Race."

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/COWHUNTERCOUNTRY.jpg

After working a new moon tide, I think I know why he calls it The Race.

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/RIPLINE.jpg


Every drop of the bait resulted in a hook up. Most were big blues with nice sharp teeth...lots of rig tying and rebaiting...lots of tap, tap, tap followed by vicious runs and rod pumping action. The bluefish would take advantage of the current to the point where I heard Ken grunt once or twice. Big blues do pull hard.

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/KENSBLUE.jpg

I know it’s a pain in the butt when you’re trying to get down to the big cows and the choppers are everywhere, but I’ll bet if we weren’t targeting trophy bass and we switched from fluorocarbon to wire we would have caught some monster blues. Last week blues up to 17 pounds were mixed in with bass up to 40.

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/KENBASSWIDE.jpg

A place like this could catch on, so let’s keep it our little secret. The action for big cows should pick up any day now.

Mike

JohnR
10-05-2005, 04:21 PM
Err - not much of a secret?? Is it?

Sea Dangles
10-05-2005, 04:32 PM
:realmad: Your kidding right Mike?Someone delete this crap NOW!!!

Fish_Eye
10-05-2005, 05:17 PM
The Race is about as much a secret fishing spot as The Grand Canyon and Yellowstone National Park are secret getaway destinations.

I can think of about two dozen stories, articles and refrences to fishing there in the last 2 years alone. Not to mention weekly fishing reports from dozens of sources. If someone doesn't know about The Race, they've never opened up a chart of Long Island Sound.

Some people need to lighten up about this subject matter and that's all this post is trying to accomplish. Knowing that the The Race is there, and knowing how to fish it are two entirerly different matters. I know the moon is there but getting there and exploring it is another thing.

I've been working on a DVD that will give anyone the tools they need to find hot fishing spots anywhere on the striper coast and some rather famous places will be mentioned and I'll be revealing the underwater structure that exists in these areas. I've been doing this for over 15 years. I'll be discreet in most cases but pinpoint sharp in others...but only when these places are so self evident that anyone with any fish sense could immediatly identify these places by going to a chart or even Goggle Earth.

Nebe
10-05-2005, 06:15 PM
:realmad: Your kidding right Mike?Someone delete this crap NOW!!!

HAHA You bust my balls for being the spot police, but when the ball is in your home court you flip.

:jump:

Sea Dangles
10-05-2005, 06:18 PM
Keep :jump: bluefish beyotch

Slipknot
10-05-2005, 06:30 PM
I think he's trolling nebe :usd:

Nice pictures Mike, where's the red X's on the water so I'll know where to drop my bait? :smokin:

Sea Dangles
10-05-2005, 06:44 PM
Mike's right.Good explanation.At least I admit when I over-react.Must be canalitis.East West High Low :huh: Where is mt plug?

JohnR
10-05-2005, 07:29 PM
Some people need to lighten up about this subject matter and that's all this post is trying to accomplish. Knowing that the The Race is there, and knowing how to fish it are two entirerly different matters. I know the moon is there but getting there and exploring it is another thing.


Some people need to take a step back and not to look at "spots" thru green colored glasses. Someone in your position is damned if you do and damed if you don't. In order to sell your fish porn you need to blast your pics of places all over the place to maintain that edge for people to buy your stuff. But in the process of all these pics going out, many of which really are drool instigating, you, to a lesser degree, cause traffic to some places.

I don't know what to tell you but you are one that can do a lot in the protection of access but at the same time you must be careful not to inadvertantly or blatantly cause a torching...

Some people feel that the "spot" issue is really going overboard lately. Perhaps to some extent you are right. Unfortunately, the one thing we as anglers can't afford to be careless with is access.

Backbeach Jake
10-05-2005, 07:37 PM
Whew! I thought that you were talkin' 'bout eh errr uh nevermind! :bl:

NIB
10-05-2005, 09:41 PM
I been to the moon.
I'm from NJ everthing is blown.
ask kenny why do u think he travels up there.

kippy
10-05-2005, 10:32 PM
The Race is about as much a secret fishing spot as The Grand Canyon and Yellowstone National Park are secret getaway destinations.

I can think of about two dozen stories, articles and refrences to fishing there in the last 2 years alone. Not to mention weekly fishing reports from dozens of sources. If someone doesn't know about The Race, they've never opened up a chart of Long Island Sound.

Some people need to lighten up about this subject matter and that's all this post is trying to accomplish. Knowing that the The Race is there, and knowing how to fish it are two entirerly different matters. I know the moon is there but getting there and exploring it is another thing.

I've been working on a DVD that will give anyone the tools they need to find hot fishing spots anywhere on the striper coast and some rather famous places will be mentioned and I'll be revealing the underwater structure that exists in these areas. I've been doing this for over 15 years. I'll be discreet in most cases but pinpoint sharp in others...but only when these places are so self evident that anyone with any fish sense could immediatly identify these places by going to a chart or even Goggle Earth.

Mike when is the new DVD coming out?

TheSpecialist
10-05-2005, 11:06 PM
Mike when is the new DVD coming out?



:rollem:

Fish_Eye
10-06-2005, 05:31 AM
John, you’re so right about the need to protect access. It’s like loosing your favorite rod overboard when you drive up to a spot you use to fish for years and find there’s no room for you.

Believe me I’m not immune to it either. One July 4th I pulled up to a spot I’ve been diving for 34 years, only to find that there was no parking; the limited parking area was filled to the brim with mostly out of state cars and they had even spilled out onto the shoulder of the road. I was furious and sped off to my second spot down the road. I was starting to put my wet suit on when I saw a cop go by. I jumped in my truck and chased down the patrol car. I flashed my lights and pulled it over (it felt good being the one doing the pulling over for a change). The officer got out and walked over to my truck -- SHE was a Latino officer in a pretty Waspy town – boy things HAD changed a little over the years. I pleaded my case to her and explained that with the holiday and all, there was a spill over of parking onto the side of the road and I was wondering if I parked there would I get a ticket? She explained that she would normally let it go, but that as soon as she got a call complaining about the situation, she was duty bound to ticket the vehicles. Then she got a call from the station and asked me to wait a second. When she returned she said, “That was the old woman that always calls and I’m surprised she hasn’t called already. Now I have to ticket.” I resorted to asking her if there were any reasonable, perhaps younger people that lived near the water's edge that I could talk to about getting access. She gave me the name of a family down the road; I thanked her and in 10 seconds I was knocking on the door. I explained the circumstances, my long involvement with fishing, diving, and filming in the area, and quickly got access that put me right on the edge of the water. Obviously I treasure that privilege and never abuse it. I’ve been lucky enough to be granted that same kind of access to a number of other highly trafficked “spots.”

The planet is getting smaller. There are way too many people on it now and it’s only getting worse. There are more people in the sport and they’ll continue to be growth in surf and boat fishing until we mismanage the fish into non-existence (that’s another story for another time).

What can we do? We live in an information age where you no longer have to befriend some old sharpie and then wait a few years before he trusts you enough to show you where to go. The info is out there. It’s in OLD magazines, not just new articles. Spots are divulged in OLD posts and it only takes a few minutes of searching to pull up the skinny on hot places to fish. And there will be new books, stories, where-to articles, and even TV shows blowing the lid of so called secret spots. What can we do?

First, let’s remember that learning a new spot is like learning where a bank safe is located. The safe might be loaded with cash, but you need the right combination to get at the booty. Going to that spot at the most productive time of day or night is “14 to the right.” Knowing what tide to work is like “two turns and 6 to the left.” Knowing what lure or fly to use is like “25 to the right.” Knowing how to present that fly or lure is like “three spins to the left, stop at 5 and bingo the safe is open!” However, if you fish that same spot in February vs. October you might find the vault is empty. Those that come and are looking for instant gratification will probably get skunked and never return. However, some youngblood might put it all together and start catching fish. He or she might turn out to be your next best fishing buddy. Isn't that how you've met some of your best fishing companions in the past?

Second, people don’t protect things they don’t care about. Nobody has done more to protect and save ducks than “Ducks Unlimited” -- and they kill em’. With more people in the sport, we should use our numbers and our collective voices to keep access open and to ADD NEW ACCESS…remember, we pay a lot of excise tax on all the expensive gear we buy. But, it’s the squeaky gear that gets the grease. RISAA, has an access committee. Get involved with the process; don’t just grumble about some new illegal barricade at a right of way. Work within the system to get these areas re-opened, then police the area and keep it clean, organize a clean up effort, talk to offenders.

Your final option is to walk from house to house asking, “Do you like to eat fresh fish?” You might be surprised at how often that will work. Just make sure you have a clean pair of waders on when you approach the landowners and keep bassmaster in the truck :bl:

Mike

mikecc
10-06-2005, 05:40 AM
Mike when is the new DVD coming out?
Never mind that when is the old DVD coming out.

Fish_Eye
10-06-2005, 06:38 AM
Thanks for the continued interest in "Stripers Gone Wild." I'm in the process of finishing it and hope to add another chapter on a secret spot I call Cuttyhunk. This will mean that this epic DVD will have taken five years to produce and it should cause the meltowdown of DVD players from coast to coast. I promise you that this is the most informative and most entertaining fishing production you have ever seen. I hope to get it in the stores in November. At the same time I'll be starting the re-introduction of the old videotape titles as new and improved digitally remastered DVDs with lots of additional footage.

I'm also putting together a new show for the upcoming Winter show season, so make it a point to visit me in Worcester or perhaps the MSBA show -- call me on that one Patrick!

For your viewing pleasure here are some shots of the best striper surf on the planet.

Here is where I caught bass up to 59"
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/basscove.jpg
I've seen and videotaped dozens of COWS swimming around the massive boulders. I've also fished here and caught nothing. I've also been diving here when I couldn't find anything but stones -- no fish, no bait, just complete desolation. You're typical HOT SPOT!

spence
10-06-2005, 06:46 AM
I hope to get it in the stores in November.
Hmmm....I seem to remember...

I’ll be selling the DVD through a number of Striped-Bass.com sponsors and it should be ready before the end of January. - Mike Laptew Jan 1, 2004
:devil2:

-spence

GBOUTDOORS
10-06-2005, 07:00 AM
Mike is that Nov. 2005? :huh: I think I can see some of Slipknots foot prints on the shore in that picture. He was carrying that big plug bag and must have weighed 500# as he walked the shore leaving prints in the rocks for ever as a sign that he had passed this way. :D

Slipknot
10-06-2005, 07:08 AM
Size 14 :D

NIB
10-06-2005, 07:11 AM
GB I remember that Pic Slip an I where talkin bout that the other day.The Cromangan Surfcaster.

Hey Mike do U always talk in Parables.U woulda made a nice apostle.
I just give Nebe a plug an he gave me the combination.
An I'll never have that recipe again.

Fish_Eye
10-06-2005, 07:16 AM
I call this shot "Stairway to Heaven," because it leads you from the back deck of the Cuttyhunk Fishing Club where this stone laden beach was once home to the old "Home Stand" fishing stand.

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/stair.jpg

Here's a look at the rocks that supported the iron legs and wooden planks where the pioneers of surfishing and past American Presidents once fished.
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/standbeach.jpg

The Gay Head Light on the Aquinnah Cliffs can seen in the distance.
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/oldhomestand.jpg

Iron Mike once took a 60 near this spot.
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/wavehomestand.jpg
Don't expect me to put an "X" on the exact rock...besides, I moved it :jump:

fishweewee
10-06-2005, 07:19 AM
Mike :wave:

I think the next DVD you should shoot is "Rhody Charter Captains Behaving Badly." :laughs: :hee:

p.s. Costa Rica give wee wee big fishing stiffy.

Bassman18
10-06-2005, 08:02 AM
I think the next DVD you should shoot is "Rhody Charter Captains Behaving Badly." :laughs: :hee:

:laugha: :laugha: all day and no hookup :wall: :wall: :rocketem:

Fish_Eye
10-06-2005, 08:08 AM
spence,

I know this project was suppose to be finished a long time ago, but as a great artist once said, "Art is never finished!" However, enough is enough and now I'm doing the balancing act of removing some footage to make room for even better shots gathered over the last year. All this while balancing a Mom-in-law that's been very sick and doing a lots of work for Crocodile Bay Lodge in Costa Rica. Keep the faith!

Nebe,

I know not of what you speak.

Here's a little more spot burning on Cuttyhunk.

Everywhere you turn on Cuttyhunk you see promising water; you can't help but dream of trophy fish coming out of the waves and inhaling your plug.

The Fishing Club seen from accross the cove.
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/fishingclub.jpg

A view of Nashaweena Island just before sunset
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/nashsky.jpg

From the bluffs you get a great view of Martha's Vineyard and Gay Head Light.
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/diffusedgrass.jpg

There's amazing wildlife and bird watching on the island. It's not just a fishing destination, it's a sanctuary away from the curse of modern technology: cell phones, text messages, voice mail, computers, airplains, trains, cars, deadlines.............
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/bluffpano.jpg

A church with a striped bass on the steeple is my kind of church.
http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/images/OCT05/schooners.jpg

Nebe
10-06-2005, 08:13 AM
I just give Nebe a plug an he gave me the combination.
An I'll never have that recipe again.

nib you gave me more than a plug. And for that i returned the favor. The combination changes every month, but the numbers are all the same. :D

Keep it those #'s to yourself and the contents will always be there for you.

**Steve baldwin made that striped bass weather vane on top of that chruch. He was a great friend of my gramps. :D

DaveS
10-06-2005, 08:31 AM
I been to the moon.
I'm from NJ everthing is blown.
ask kenny why do u think he travels up there.


Thats the truth. NJ is soooooo bad when it comes to spot burning and crowds. Thats why I have been making making weekend trips to New England for the last 5 years now. There's always some great spots in Rhody that have no one fishing them.

kippy
10-06-2005, 08:34 AM
Great pictures Mike! :drool:

The Iceman 6
10-06-2005, 10:20 AM
Getting back to the Race, yeah I think I've heard of that place, was there last week as a matter of fact, pretty common knowledge....

Great Pic's Mike....Great work Cowhunter...

Ice

Redsoxticket
10-06-2005, 12:53 PM
I realize that a well produced and documented DVD take time but my interest has dwindled considerably since it was expected to be delivered in early 2004.

spence
10-06-2005, 01:00 PM
spence,

I know this project was suppose to be finished a long time ago, but as a great artist once said, "Art is never finished!"
Don't worry, I'm from Iowa...we're a very patient people :usd:

-spence

Rockport24
10-06-2005, 01:43 PM
Hi Mike! didn't realize you were on this board. I have "Stripers in Paradise" and love it. Although I would like to see more surfcasting footage, will this new one have more? I understand it may be tough, especially with these spot burning battles going on. Awesome pictures by the way!

Slipknot
10-06-2005, 04:05 PM
There's always some great spots in Rhody that have no one fishing them.

And that is one reason why they are still great spots, because there isn't constant pressure on them.

NIB
10-06-2005, 07:50 PM
nib you gave me more than a plug. And for that i returned the favor. The combination changes every month, but the numbers are all the same. :D

Keep it those #'s to yourself and the contents will always be there for you.

**Steve baldwin made that striped bass weather vane on top of that chruch. He was a great friend of my gramps. :D

I hear ya buddy...I already forgot the numbers...
One of the Balwin brothers is a friend of ur gramps.???

NIB
10-06-2005, 07:51 PM
Come on slip post ur pic.the art of travelin lite.

Slipknot
10-06-2005, 09:47 PM
can't find that one, how's this one?
:D

NIB
10-07-2005, 05:44 AM
can't find that one, how's this one?
:D
Thats nice better savor it.Dosn't look like the injury riddled patsie's are gonna be there this yr.

BasicPatrick
10-07-2005, 08:40 AM
Ok,

I have a couple comments that someone just needs to say regrding this thread.

If you are reading this thread you should go back to the main page and read the thread about the new site raffle. I read english and the thread lets us all know that the till that keeps this site running is low. With this in mind, lets look at a few angles on this thread.

The thread starts out with a passive agressive advertisement for Cowhunter's new charter business. It would be ok if this was a client reporting on a trip, but this is a celebrity endorsement complete with manufactured professional photos. I also need to note that Kenny did not post this blatant SPAM. In today's economy with the pricing of inshore fishing charters going off the hook due to fuel, dockage, etc, the charter business is getting even more competative than in the past. My point is that this site has paid sponsors that actually PAY to advertise on this site. This thread has put John R in an impossible position. I do not think it is ok for this thread to remain as it is free advertising like this that if paid for would not have John needing to do site raffles to keep the lights on. Once
again I hope that Kenny Cowhunter becomes a Sponsor as all reports say that he is an S-B kind of guy.

One more arguement for pulling this thread. I would like to know if FishEye is a PAID Sponsor of this site. For Two years I have watched this site used to build and build up the expectation on the new DVD. No doubt the quality will be what we are all used to seeing from the master. Mike Laptew is the best videographer in the business, period. However Business is business and if Fish Eye is is not a paid sponsor than this thread must come down.

I post this as I can not fathom the idea that John would have to come out of pocket for site costs with the thousands of dollars crossing these boards on a regular.

Un Paid sponsors need to ante up and kick in.

BigFish
10-07-2005, 08:56 AM
I was thinking the same things Patrick! SPAM SPAM SPAM! :spam:

DaveS
10-07-2005, 09:02 AM
................Un Paid sponsors need to ante up and kick in.


:kewl:

fishaholic18
10-07-2005, 09:05 AM
Ok,

I have a couple comments that someone just needs to say regrding this thread.

If you are reading this thread you should go back to the main page and read the thread about the new site raffle. I read english and the thread lets us all know that the till that keeps this site running is low. With this in mind, lets look at a few angles on this thread.

The thread starts out with a passive agressive advertisement for Cowhunter's new charter business. It would be ok if this was a client reporting on a trip, but this is a celebrity endorsement complete with manufactured professional photos. I also need to note that Kenny did not post this blatant SPAM. In today's economy with the pricing of inshore fishing charters going off the hook due to fuel, dockage, etc, the charter business is getting even more competative than in the past. My point is that this site has paid sponsors that actually PAY to advertise on this site. This thread has put John R in an impossible position. I do not think it is ok for this thread to remain as it is free advertising like this that if paid for would not have John needing to do site raffles to keep the lights on. Once
again I hope that Kenny Cowhunter becomes a Sponsor as all reports say that he is an S-B kind of guy.

One more arguement for pulling this thread. I would like to know if FishEye is a PAID Sponsor of this site. For Two years I have watched this site used to build and build up the expectation on the new DVD. No doubt the quality will be what we are all used to seeing from the master. Mike Laptew is the best videographer in the business, period. However Business is business and if Fish Eye is is not a paid sponsor than this thread must come down.

I post this as I can not fathom the idea that John would have to come out of pocket for site costs with the thousands of dollars crossing these boards on a regular.

Un Paid sponsors need to ante up and kick in.


Good point.
True.

Fish_Eye
10-07-2005, 07:15 PM
BasicPatrick,

I’m sorry you feel the way you do about the post. The intention was to give a fishing report on our recent trip to the Race while taking a tongue-in-cheek poke at some of the over reactions to spot burning…MHO.

As far as your comments on spamming and not being a supporter of the site…I think it might have been better if you talked with John before you questioned my lack of sponsoring or supporting the site.

In the past I’ve done two full-length shows for the fund raising efforts of this site. I might only have 591 posts on this site but I think if you do a search you’ll find that I’ve always salted most of them with images. I’ve spent considerable time working on those images in Photoshop and then sizing them and then even promoting them as free screensavers. My goal has always been to try to keep people entertained and informed. I’m in the business of selling images (7 pictures in the October issue of Salt Water Sportsman, four pages of images in the March issue of Field and Stream, etc.) but I’ve always been happy to share my work with the S-B community.

There’s been a fair amount of interest in my DVD because a lot of folks from this site have been privy to seeing rough cuts at fundraisers and blueberry socials. Check out this thread and you’ll see I never instigated a promo for the video.

My time spent providing photo essays of Cuttyhunk, with where to fish info, is not exactly an example of taking form the site; I thought it was an example of contributing something to it. Anyone that’s talked to me at any of the shows should attest to the fact that my number one goal is the sharing of information. Patrick if you have a problem with the thread by all means have it taken down.

Mike

*LB
10-07-2005, 08:54 PM
Fish Eye,

Your photos are outstanding and I'm glad you post them here! There are plenty of excellent photographers out there, but few who take photos from a fisherman's perspective :kewl: . One of the cardinal rules of intellectual (artistic) property is to NEVER give anything away for free. You obviously don't follow that rule and everyone on this site is richer for it. Thanks.

Hopefully the guys with nothing better to do than whine about having to look at great photos will grab a rod and actually give fishing a try. :rollem:

BasicPatrick
10-07-2005, 09:05 PM
Fisheye,

You have completely missed my point. My point is simple. I am talking about CASH, BENJAMINS, DUCKETS, or whatever you wish to call MONEY. This is what pays the bills. This is how it works. For profit companies BUY advertising through Sponsorship. If you look real clear I asked if you were a paid sponsor. Your answer leads me to beleive not.

Frankly, I do not want to hear about how you probably waived your $800 appearance fee, etc. Let's take a poll Everyone that would not have gone to the Too Freekin Cold to Fish nites if Fisheye was not the entertainment please let us know. Everhyon ethat would rather see fishEye pay like other sponsors raise your hand.

John is having to run a raffle with some of his own products and I am bull %$%$%$%$ that he has to do so. The day will come when all of the unpaid spammers and plug advertisers on this site will be off the hook if this thing is sold to someone like you know who over at you know where.

That is my point.
In God We trust, All Others Must Pay Cash

Gotta catch a tide

fishweewee
10-07-2005, 09:44 PM
Hey guys,

Forgive me for piggybacking on this thread, but since we're on the topic of shameless spam, I would like to announce ...

...that I'm launching my very own Rhode Island guide service.

You can find more about Rhode Island right here (sorry if a few spots get burned, if you don't like it tough titties).

Here it is!

JHC, Ben :wall: :biglaugh: :eek5: :eek:

NIB
10-07-2005, 10:39 PM
Nice.site Fishpeepee.
not sure how to treat to this i love mikes work an his photo's are always a great addition to a site like this. Do i think kenny should step up an become a sponser?His hard work an dedication would is well known an he could do good from spendin a few duckets here.his season will be winding down soon though an perhaps he might wanna wait till next season.there are buisness politics that i don't always realize. there's alot of instances where on the other site the guy has to put his foot down an its not always well recieved.I have no idea what it takes monetarily to run a site like this.But I am truely greatful to John R for doin it.

fishaholic18
10-07-2005, 10:42 PM
Ben, where do I sign up???? :kewl:

bassmaster
10-08-2005, 12:10 AM
omfg wee wee, lets send sea dangles there...........

fishsmith
10-08-2005, 02:37 PM
Thanks wee wee, now I'm going to get fired.

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I'd like to hear John's opinion on all this, he usally jumps in when evil spammers come a knocking. IMHO, the fishporn Fisheye posts are not spam, but fishy pics for fishy people to enjoy.

Keep em coming.

missing link
10-09-2005, 08:34 AM
I personally think this post is total SPAM :spam: :spam: yes I'ts nice to see all the pic's but if you want to advertize your busniess or someone elses become a sponser :huh:
LINK SR. :cool:

Raven
10-10-2005, 05:06 AM
the Price of running S-B /// so it's not such a mystery...

charge a membership fee... 2000+ members times ten bucks a year

is twenty grand... now (reverse) scale down to who will actually pay it...

out of those 2000+ members... i don't get all this SITE secret smoke....:smokin:

and mirrors.... poofiness... it's like halloweenies....

fishsmith
10-10-2005, 06:13 AM
I agree Raven, this place is alot better than a magazine, and $10 is less than any subscription.

TheSpecialist
10-10-2005, 09:44 AM
While I most certainly would spend 10.00 a year to be a member of this site, you guys are missing the point. There are other people here who are paying sponsers, and two of them are charter boats. Now while we all enjoy Cowhunters pics, he generally has been "less commercialized" in his posting. He never has solicited anything from members of this site. I am sure if Ken wanted to become a sponser, John would not have any problem with it, or if he wanted to post non comercialized pictures of his fish than that would not be a problem.

Some people just seem to post stuff when it suits thier needs, and that is not right.