Due to a busy scedule this month i think i am done with night bass fishing. I can get out in the afternoons and think i want to give togging a whirl. I've never togged from shore before and am looking for some advice on Hooks, weight, and general techniques for cathing ol' mister white chin.

anyone got some tips? I know where to go.... just not shure how to do it.

Due to a busy scedule this month i think i am done with night bass fishing. I can get out in the afternoons and think i want to give togging a whirl. I've never togged from shore before and am looking for some advice on Hooks, weight, and general techniques for cathing ol' mister white chin.

anyone got some tips? I know where to go.... just not shure how to do it.


No %$%$%$%$in way.......... Done???????? :bc: :bc:

Togin :fishslap:

Have fun! :jump:

Virginia style hooks in 4/0, crabs for bait, From shore I would probably use a fishfinder to improve sensitivity on the pick up. Weight must be enough to hold the rig perfectly still on the bottom. You'll loose a lot of lead if you're fishing in the right places.

8/0 hook, you want to liveline scup...the bigger the better.

Tog hate scup :humpty:

-spence

1/0-4/0 gami octopus hook.

I've just used a simple rig from shore...a 2' length of mono off a swivel with a dropper loop in the upper 1/4. Tie the sinker to the bottom and loop a pre-tied blackfish leader onto the dropper. If the crabs are large, cut them in 1/2...and always break the legs at the joint. You just want the stubs hanging off the body.

It's a really fast take.

-spence

Toggin

Toggin

WTF is Toggin

I have heard rumor of this cult like fishin, but have never done it


toggin during the Fall run

I I I just don't get it

toggin during the Fall run

I I I just don't get it

well... i cant fish sunrise and i cant fish after sunset pretty much.. too damn busy. that gives me from 9 am until 2pm to play. IMO, that is the worst time of the day to bassfish, so Im gonna tog :tooth:

well... i cant fish sunrise and i cant fish after sunset pretty much.. too damn busy. that gives me from 9 am until 2pm to play. IMO, that is the worst time of the day to bassfish, so Im gonna tog :tooth:


Not in the fall :humpty:

tog tastes really good. :D

You should get yourself checked out if you don't tog:rolleyes::D

Tony the Togger :uhuh:

liveline tog

liveline tog
:kewl: now yer talking....

I kinda look like a Tog
Tony the Togger.says 3/0-4/0 gami octopus then do like spec says keep it simple.50-80 floro.
tog are cool the pound like a MFer my big is 10.75 my bro has one 12.5.My buddy owns the best tog boat in the state(=freefishin) all hardcore guys no pantywaistes very cool fishin wit so many clothes on u can barely move.days when it don't hit 30 degrees.

Can I burn a Tog hot Spot

Whats next Nebe....fishing for scup? :hidin:

Have a taste of Crafty's Drunken Blackfish Stew.Its worth toggin for.

tog tastes really good. :D
Yes they do, and pretty fun to catch. They put up a great fight.
I love Toggin' :cool:

Real men dont catch tog....

They catch BLACKFISH;;;;
never called it a tog will I met SoCo boys...

we all know real men catch em from boats anyways... in Dec... when its below 0 wind chills :D

it's the most wonderful time of the year :D

E' I hope you do a better job of filleting them then you did on the one I gave you; course they get hard to fillet when they are the size of keeper bass :soon:

Tony; anything over 10 is a moose...
my best is 14+, my old mans best is 17+.... I love blackfish :D

In case I didnt make it clear;
I love to catch blackfish...

The only time I tried it from the surf I got skunked, but met the elsuive goosefish for the first time
In the boat; 40lb mono, no leader, 3 surgeons loops, top two get 8/0 hooks, the bottom gets a sinker... put the biggest F'ing crabs you can on and go for it

Spence;
Never take the legs off!!!! hook it through the knuckle at the base of the legs, the legs add the the attraction.. blackfish are visual hunters...
sharp hooks and a HARD hook set..
On green crabs I leave claws and all, just take the claws of on bigger crabs

Spence;
Never take the legs off!!!!
That's how I was taught...of course if you'd like to take me out and demonstrate proper technique...I always like to learn :hee: :read:

-spence

Never take the legs off!!!!

i'm new here, but i respectfully disagree. i like the legs off cuz i think it's easier to get the crab in their mouths. they're not bass. they got relatively small mouths.

i also dont like whole crabs. we use only crab halves (i think it smells a whole lot more) with no legs.

we do ok. you should see the looks of the boats around you that arent catching and your cooler is full and you're throwing back 5 lb'ers.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6937/imgp06774mp.jpg

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/3557/imgp06838kb.jpg

here's a pic of the next day....the largest was just about 9 lbs. those blues were 8 and 9 lbs for reference.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1760/imgp06934pj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

JoeyM; Welcome and it's good to disagree...
Just my opinion; legs on... we've been togging for generations, when I grew up we were still selling rod and reel....
I haven't had a season without a tog over 10 in a while...
Big crabs, big hooks, big togs, do other methods catch? of course...
As far as a small mouth, we use baits the size of my fist... tap..tap..BANG..
They can open that maw up pretty wide....

when you see the expression on boats when you toss back 9's and 10's....... :D

Last year's best; 13+
God I love blackfish

nice. yeah our best has only been 13....so maybe i should start leaving the legs on.

If the crabs are large, cut them in 1/2...and always break the legs at the joint. You just want the stubs hanging off the body.
Ya might wanna tear off the carapace as well. At least that was what I was shown by a friend of mine who is a commercial guy. This was in a boat, though. There's a "knack" to tearing it off without tearing your fingers instead.

Last year's best; 13+
God I love blackfish


I ate that fish :drool:

I like cutting my legs in half. The ideal bait for me would be a big crab cut in half, peal the shell and legs cut at the nuckle. That may not be the big tog bait but you will hook up consisantly. Buzz bay is smokin commerial tog.

this is what i am going to try.. hi-lo top hook gets a clam belly and the bottom gets a crab. In my wildest fishgasm dream i get a double hookup.. tog on crab and bass on clam :D

Them togz will take the clams too :humpty:

-spence

Them togz will take the clams too :humpty:

-spence

in spring.


damn, all of this tog talk is killing me. i might give frances fleet a try next friday because they start togging this saturday and i cant go because of my thai boxing and instructing kung-fu class in chinatown. i have to break down those scrawny teenagers into a bunch of hardass martial artists.

i have to break down those scrawny teenagers into a bunch of hardass martial artists.
Just give them guns.

-spence

in spring.


Blackfish LOVE clams all the time, just a pain with choggies and dog's around to use in the fall...

After talking with Spence last night it was revealed that of course all of the above will catch blackfish, legs off, legs on, shell off shell on....
my sentiment has always been; why bother doing all that... too much work, and if they cant get it in their mouth I dont want em on my hook :D

tight lines and be safe out there this fall...

At this moment I am more interested in targeting tog then bass...I am bassed out for 05 (I also injured my ankle (while surf fishing) and will be hobbling around for the rest of 05 so catching a few tog from the boat sounds like a lot of fun!)
I love bass fishing, don't get me wrong but the fall run is not all it is cracked up to be compared to years past. Nowadays, I do better in the suds in June then Oct-Nov anyway.

As soon as the seas calm down I will be out in BB looking for rockpiles to drag some crabs across. I noticed they use green crabs here, when I fished them in NY they seem to smaller fiddler crabs.

I am no expert on toggin,In fact I have only gone a handful of times before and don't know the toggin grounds that well here. Most guys I know anchor but can you drift for them until out target them? I don't know all the spots and this is a specices where you need to be right on top of them. Anchoring can be a pain if you need to move 10X to find them.

If anyone would like to PM me some good tog numbers in the WoodsHole/Buzzards Bay area please feel free :thanks:

this is what i am going to try.. hi-lo top hook gets a clam belly and the bottom gets a crab. In my wildest fishgasm dream i get a double hookup.. tog on crab and bass on clam :D


With tog I would keep both hooks on the bottem,, you'll do 10 times better. Scup same thing....keep it on the bottem.
I got say..I like your thionk RIRockhound

Big crabs, big baits, big tog;
not interested in filling the boat; we usually take a few fish each a day and then c&r... trophy huntin... my 15 is out there somewhere :D

Had a incredible day today, probably the fastest action I have seen. I forgot how much fun it it to fish for these bull-dogs of the sea. They can steal bait faster then you can say rockpile and a 7# fish puts up an amazing fight!

years back me and my father weant toggin a lot and we had good luck with muscles

Had a incredible day today, probably the fastest action I have seen. I forgot how much fun it it to fish for these bull-dogs of the sea. They can steal bait faster then you can say rockpile and a 7# fish puts up an amazing fight!

Amen Jim, Amen..
nibble nibble, whack... set... thump-thump-thump... maybe a bit of drag... get the net its a 'chin! you got a tog in da boat :D

Craig the spring inshore guys do well with softbaits; too many bait thiefs in the deeper water...
Old timers say in the spring their mouths are soft from not eating all winter...
:huh:
They do love softbaits if you can keep the choggies and doggies off of them....

Caught a couple of big fat ones friday, man they can fight!

Be quick or else. One buried down in the rocks, had to wait him out a bit to finally get him up!

toggers,

what is your favorite tog recipe?

How do ya cook this blackfish?

Lord God Almighty.I thought I had balls posting that "best day fishing thread".

Damn chief whatchoo thinkin'?

even on my worst day, I never posted anything like that http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/steveg50/File0001.jpg

had a fun day that day

WTF This aint a porn site buddy

Is that guy serious?

I think the real question is how/why is it still up there?

smells like a dead fish :blush:

That's not good..... :nailem:

:as:

fish4striper---don't do it again.

Sorry guys, I was at my son's football game all afternoon.

I was out as well - gus - keep it CLEAN please...

Thanks,

John

half the hottie pics had 2 more threads than that........


sorry mods, won't happen again

crabs crabs and more crabs,,,and small 2/0 hooks with long shank do the trick

2/0 Pacific bass hooks.

got my first togs on a party boat last friday. three of them in 4 and 6 lbs. saw some bigger togs taken as well. bryan, thanks for the reference. im hooked on togs.

Jim;
Cooking; baked with crumbs, white wine etc.. is hard to beat...
Awsome for stew....
Joe; welcome, enjoy the sport....
Hooks... 2/0 in the bay maybe, out front 6/0 or bigger :D

half the hottie pics had 2 more threads than that........


sorry mods, won't happen again

Don't recall any that had full frontal nudity :confused:

[QUOTE=fish4striper]half the hottie pics had 2 more threads than that.../QUOTE]

I think what he meant was that some of the original hottie thread pix wearn't wearing anything more than a string bikini "top" with two slim "threads" of fabric covering MOST of thier nips, and a g-string bottom that didn't cover much of anything. But that's exactly the reason that it got pulled: went too far, filters responded accordingly. Was showing up as porn site.

Stick to fishing. We all know where to get that and it's not here.

Jim;
Cooking; baked with crumbs, white wine etc.. is hard to beat...
Awsome for stew....
Joe; welcome, enjoy the sport....
Hooks... 2/0 in the bay maybe, out front 6/0 or bigger :D

6/0? if it works for you. this friday or sunday is lookign alright. the noaa keeps changing. i swore to myself that i have lost a few bigger togs. it felt like fighting a hard fighter. my abu 700cl crapped me out a little. when i turned the handle to pop the freespool button, the handle kept spooling in reverse for a few seconds or longer. i lost a bigger tog because of that. so any tech perspective here?

Yeah get a bigger reel...
4/0 Senator here...
6/0 is actually small, usually we use 7 or 8/0

6/0? if it works for you. this friday or sunday is lookign alright. the noaa keeps changing. i swore to myself that i have lost a few bigger togs. it felt like fighting a hard fighter. my abu 700cl crapped me out a little. when i turned the handle to pop the freespool button, the handle kept spooling in reverse for a few seconds or longer. i lost a bigger tog because of that. so any tech perspective here?


I'm a Penn reel person. When it comes to bottom fishing reels (or a reel that can stand up to alot of hard fishing), I'd take a jigmaster or a beachmaster160

http://cgi.ebay.com/Penn-Reel-160M-Beachmaster-Custom_W0QQitemZ7194085578QQcategoryZ36163QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I just purchased a newell 338 with gear ratio of 5.1. Then I am going to load it with 40 or 50 lbs mono backing and 65 lbs spiderwire stealth.

I just purchased a newell 338 with gear ratio of 5.1. Then I am going to load it with 40 or 50 lbs mono backing and 65 lbs spiderwire stealth.
hmmm, 65 pound test will help you crank them in.

now im waiting for my newell to come at my doorstep. is penn 210 convench a okay substitute for togging?

I dont know models etc.. Joe;
Penn Senator, (4/0 or 113H size)
Newells

Anything about that size with a RUGGED drag is fine... drag doesnt need to stand up to LONG runs, but needs a serious amount of balls; we fish them close to locked down.. then you can back off a bit once you get them off the bottom of its a good fish... say north of 10lbs....

Went out over the weekend for the last tog trip (Sat)...it was pretty good but not has hot as it was the week prior. Also, the bite STOPPED when the tide changed, it was like someone threw a switch! As soon as I got there, set the hook dropped the bait...got a 9#er!...said, oh, this is gonna be a great day! We got our limit quick but the bite really died. That is it for 05 boating for me. (BTW, saw the Viking Fleet boat from Montauk fishing in BB)

(Took an early lunch today to catch the low tide and picked up another bussel of scallops... :bl: ) Wife is working on a tog and scallop stew recipe....should be tasty.

My favorite reel for toggin is the shimano tekoda, with 50# PP braid, smooth, powerful and excellent drag and it costs about as much as a decent penn.

Bryan....

Take me toggin....

I;'ll take you to fish for real flouncer this spring.....real flounder have no teeth

Havent been yet myself....

i was told that this reel will do the job for me while i wait for my newell P 338 5.1 gear.

im heading out again this friday. this friday's forecast is fishy...

I have gotten a lot of PM's asking me how and where I catch green crabs.

The green crab can be purchased in some bait shops but it is easy to catch your own. First you should know that the green crab is a real pest. They can (and have) destroy scallop and other shelfish populations. They are not native to the US and are an invasive critter that have become a real problem in some areas. I read someplace they believe they were introduced to the US via the bildges of ships. Anyway, take all you want and when you are done toss them in the trash (don't put them back in the water). The good news is tog like to eat them. do a google on green crab for more info like this:
http://www.clarku.edu/departments/biology/biol201/JBird/HTML/meet_the_green_crab.htm


Anyway, Most salt ponds have green crabs. I use a trap I got from ketchem traps in New Bedford. I am sure other crab traps will work as well. They are not very picky, just hungry.

http://www.lobstering.com/crab.htm

Some fishbait and a bouy is all you need and you should be set for greencrab bait.

Jim;
they can be funny on the tide; the often seem to shut down... OR maybe they move to the otherside of the pile..
eitherway.. Slack water = :D:D:D

for those still interested....the tog season still going great. fished sat off of various rocks off of newport in sunny FAC waters. lots of boats out. after a very very slow start things picked up. managed to get two of the party into their first togs ever.

average size was 6 lbs. largest about 8.5 lb. i think we caught about 8-9 keepers and 2-3 shorts in 2 hrs.

oh, and as for gear, we use smaller conventionals for fun. lately been using avet sx's with 50 lb PP, or 17 lb sufix siege with a 12 ft 50 lb leader (it's one of my surf reels). also accurate boss 270 works really well too. havent lost any fish with these micro reels. or not due to their small size anyways.

sometimes we use bigger reels, like a 112H spooled with 40 lb or penn 225 ld's spooled with 50.

never tried a newell....

Joeym, thats what i saw from those chiense guys on frances fleet. they were using that kind of setup. these seems to detect bites from togs better than mine. strong and sensitive.