Any one else a little disturbed by the fact that some cities and towns have to call their tree the Holiday Tree instead of the Christmas Tree.:doh:

Whats next to go?

What's next ???

YBYA! What has it come to in this country when we have to give an alias name to an object associated with a popular and specific holiday, just so other people who don't celebrate that holiday aren't offended or think that if I can celebrate my holiday so openly and traditionally, why they shouldn't they be able to celebrate their (and every other) equivalent holiday.

People SUCK!:af: :realmad:

Just more Political correctness gone mad. People do suck and need to chill out...How can one be offended by a Christmas tree?! I meen people know its a Xmas tree, call it what it is!

Hey....I don't get offended when I see a minora (hope I spelled that right) or a statue of Buddah, or anything not related to how I celebrate religion......everyone celebrates religion differently and they have many ways of expressing that....isn't that a constitutional right? To A.) Express yourself and speak freely and to B.) Worship freely in your own way?????? What the hell is this miserable marble coming to?:splat:

Hey....I don't get offended when I see a minora (hope I spelled that right) or a statue of Buddah, or anything not related to how I celebrate religion......everyone celebrates religion differently and they have many ways of expressing that....isn't that a constitutional right? To A.) Express yourself and speak freely and to B.) Worship freely in your own way?????? What the hell is this miserable marble coming to?:splat:

I agree, Its sad when a handful of people with an agenda that are anti religious or have a diff faith have to ruin it for the rest of us and make our blood boil. I meen 90 percent of Americans celebrate Christmas and becuase a handful of people make a stink and feel offended over a tree or a baby jesus they have to ruin it for the majority. Ugh...People suck!

Well I'm gonna wish everyone here at SB.com a MERRY CHRISTMAS and may God bless you all this Christmas season. If that offends anyone to bad. Get over it.

MERRY CHRISTMAS

:splat: GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY IF YOU DONT LIKE IT!:splat:

they have to ruin it for the majority. Ugh...People suck!

The only way they Ruin it for the rest of us is if you let them. look at you, this is the 2nd thread that you've lost your mind over the fact that they call it a Holiday tree....so you basically let them ruin it for you. Guess what....They won....with you at least. When you get all fired up about it and get others all fired up about it....they win. That is what they want and that is why they do it.

There have been people with opposing views and ideals since Adam and Eve (eat the apple, don't eat the apple), or when the ape became man (Wow already we have opposing views) and that is never going to change.

Myself I don't care what they call it, I call it a Christmas tree and thats all that should matter. I'll walk up to it with my family and say "Look at the awesome Christmas Tree". If a family comes up behind us with his family and says "Hey Kid's look at the awesome Channukah Bush" I'm not going to spin around and say "what are you a friggin moron...its a Christmas Tree" I'm just going to enjoy the Christmas tree with my family.

Nothing can be ruined for you by someone else's interpretation unless you let it.

:splat: GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY IF YOU DONT LIKE IT!:splat:

:confused:

What the hell does this mean?

-spence

HAPPY FESTIVUS!


Gather 'round the Festivus Pole, it's time for the Feats Of Strength!

:jump1:

Festivus....for the Rest of Us!!! :D

The only way they Ruin it for the rest of us is if you let them. look at you, this is the 2nd thread that you've lost your mind over the fact that they call it a Holiday tree....so you basically let them ruin it for you. Guess what....They won....with you at least. When you get all fired up about it and get others all fired up about it....they win. That is what they want and that is why they do it.

There have been people with opposing views and ideals since Adam and Eve (eat the apple, don't eat the apple), or when the ape became man (Wow already we have opposing views) and that is never going to change.

Myself I don't care what they call it, I call it a Christmas tree and thats all that should matter. I'll walk up to it with my family and say "Look at the awesome Christmas Tree". If a family comes up behind us with his family and says "Hey Kid's look at the awesome Channukah Bush" I'm not going to spin around and say "what are you a friggin moron...its a Christmas Tree" I'm just going to enjoy the Christmas tree with my family.

Nothing can be ruined for you by someone else's interpretation unless you let it.


You just dont get it, if you have called it a Holiday tree your whole life thats cool and i dont care. The whole point of this thread is the fact that some towns and cities (Boston for example) who have called the local tree the "Christmas" tree for years are now changing it to "Holiday" tree for total PC reasons. Everthing is the generic "Holiday" saying now. When did this country get offended by Christmas is all i want to know?:huh:

MERRY CHRISTMAS

I'm offended by that comment. How dare you impose your religion on me:bl: :rotfl:

Holiday tree ???

This term is not even politically correct. If you call it for what it really is, well it can be a Balsam Fir, Douglas Fir Fraser Fir, White Fir, etc.

Before you know it there going to take Charlie Brown's Christmas off the air. "Oh Cristmas tree, Oh Cristmas tree, -----"

The christians and maybe the episcobals are the two that call it the christmas tree. There is power in numbers of these two groups and it would be a economic and political disadvantage to retailers and politicians if this were to continue. Matter of fact major retailers are going back to calling it a christmas tree because efforts are currently underway by boycotting (sp) these retailers.

I might start calling a Minora a Penobscot Candle!:huh: :bl:

You just dont get it, if you have called it a Holiday tree your whole life thats cool and i dont care. The whole point of this thread is the fact that some towns and cities (Boston for example) who have called the local tree the "Christmas" tree for years are now changing it to "Holiday" tree for total PC reasons. Everthing is the generic "Holiday" saying now. When did this country get offended by Christmas is all i want to know?:huh:

I "get it" I just don't let it bother me. I don't care what they call it. As far as I'm concerned it IS a christmas tree. But why am I going to get fired up about it...so that everytime I see it I'll be pissed off about it. I'd rather just look at it and enjoy it.

I prefer to not let something as trivial as what they call a tree ruin my christmas.

I "get it" I just don't let it bother me. I don't care what they call it. As far as I'm concerned it IS a christmas tree. But why am I going to get fired up about it...so that everytime I see it I'll be pissed off about it. I'd rather just look at it and enjoy it.

I prefer to not let something as trivial as what they call a tree ruin my christmas.

Spoken like a man that gets it. :D must be the beer
I'm not overly PC but then again who cares...
Jon Stewert had a GREAT quoteabout gay marraige... and I paraphrase:

"Wait, I'm now being told that gay marriages will not be mandatory. So who gives a SH!T?"

People can call their tree whatever they want, but who gives a crap, honestly., They arent forcing you to call it a holiday tree. They arent mandating that all the trees sold must be called Holiday trees. They, being a government, which is supposed to be seperate from church wants to call it a holiday tree. big F'ing deal
.

Why do i bother arguing with some of you people. You just dont get what Christmas meens to most people and how insulting it is to see Christmas being turned into a generic holiday. My sister cant even hang a %$%$%$%$ing santa in her classroom at school its gotten so bad. Its not just about the tree calling thing. Its much more than that that sadly many of you just dont understand. or just dont care.

I understand;
raise your kids so that Christmas means alot to them as well and guess what; they wont care that government or schools have to be a bit PC

I understand;
raise your kids so that Christmas means alot to them as well and guess what; they wont care that government or schools have to be a bit PC

I agree with you on that. No adays thats the way to go

Stop the presses Skip agrees with me...
If 'thats the way to go'
Then why do you care so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand;
raise your kids so that Christmas means alot to them as well and guess what; they wont care that government or schools have to be a bit PC

:btu:


Why do i bother arguing with some of you people.

Wow you took the words right out of my mouth....:D

Before you know it there going to take Charlie Brown's Christmas off the air.
Actually, when Charles M. Schulz originally brought "A Charlie Brown Christmas" to the network in 1965, they balked and told him that
"...you can't read from the Bible on network television".
So even back then, there was concern about "offending" some politcal or religious group or other.

Stop the presses Skip agrees with me...
If 'thats the way to go'
Then why do you care so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahaha i dont know why i care so much! Just one of the many things that annoys me!:bl: I'm a a fairly young guy at 26 and just remember Christmas not to long ago seemed to meen alot more than it does now. I just seems all very water downed in my opinion and way to PC for me. But your right, to me and my fam its still the same but i just see the overall Christmas time experiance outside my house is way different than it was only 10 years ago. I'm just not sure what happened in society and why Christmas in the puplic arena has to be water donwed all of a sudden, and why people seem to be afraid to say Merry Christmas now. Thats all.

:btu:




Wow you took the words right out of my mouth....:D

:hihi:

Skip, if you don't start to check your spelling...

Skip, if you don't start to check your spelling...

Oh man, I'll start typing slower for now on.

I better not comment on that pic. Thats just wrong

... I'm a a fairly young guy at 26...

WOW.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but all this time, i guess since the elections, I figured you were in your 50's by the way you posted.

Calling it a holiday tree is a nice way to include everyone in this festive time of year. Why exclude? Share the love, bro.

They won't be finished untill we're all saying 'Happy Chrismahanukwanzakah to all' :bl:



http://www.chrismahanukwanzakah.com/

They won't be finished untill we're all saying 'Happy Chrismahanukwanzakah to all' :bl:
Hindu Santa ROCKS!
:tooth:

On tv its ok to swear as long as you throw a bleep between the F and the you, bitch and ass is fine too, who's makin the rules. Now socity wants to program the word Christ?....you don't hear them pushing happy holiday during other days off. As christians we to teach our kids not to feel uncomfortable expressing our beleives. I think we can all agree we need to respect each other no matter what the faith or whether we beleive or not....with that said they are disrespecting all christains in taking away the word Christ and God. I don't think the bad are out numbering the good yet but if we don't set the example for our kids religion will be taught in homes behind closed door so that knowone will be offended. Truth always prevails!!

Tony;
you make a good point regarding religion should not have to be taught behind closed doors etc.. I agree. I'm not a religous guy as people may have guessed from my posts, however I'm not anti religion at all. More of an agnostic I suppose.

Anyways. I guess I dont see the big deal in a municipal program trying to be a-religious and call it a holiday tree. To me it's not a big deal. And hopefully regardless of religion or lack there of, people are teaching their kids that all religions are ok, if thats what you believe.
Thats my 0.02. Like I said I wouldnt support a world wide ban in calling it an christmas tree, or going the 'Futurama' cartoon route where in the future, Christmas is called X-mas.

All valid points, so lets :buds: unless since I dont practice a religion I'm viewed as :devil2: in which case you can all :bshake: :bshake: :bshake: :D:D:D:D

Happy Holidays everyone, back to work :D

On tv its ok to swear as long as you throw a bleep between the F and the you, bitch and ass is fine too, who's makin the rules.
I agree, TV in general is in the dumpster. All shock value, no quality.

-spence

Tony;
you make a good point regarding religion should not have to be taught behind closed doors etc.. I agree. I'm not a religous guy as people may have guessed from my posts, however I'm not anti religion at all. More of an agnostic I suppose.

Anyways. I guess I dont see the big deal in a municipal program trying to be a-religious and call it a holiday tree. To me it's not a big deal. And hopefully regardless of religion or lack there of, people are teaching their kids that all religions are ok, if thats what you believe.
Thats my 0.02. Like I said I wouldnt support a world wide ban in calling it an christmas tree, or going the 'Futurama' cartoon route where in the future, Christmas is called X-mas.

All valid points, so lets :buds: unless since I dont practice a religion I'm viewed as :devil2: in which case you can all :bshake: :bshake: :bshake: :D:D:D:D

Happy Holidays everyone, back to work :D
This is my fishing partner??????
What the F wound you up today????

Lurking:hidin:

Too much cofee; :D
that wasnt meant to be wound up.
I enjoy this kind of debate; just not as much as spence does :D

I just feel as though it should be called for what it is. A christmas tree. If you do not wish to call it a Christmas tree don't. But why does it have to be announced to everyone that it is officially the Holiday Tree?

I work in a hospital and I just don't get why some offices can not even put up a Santa Claus Cut-Out if they want?

What problem does ANYONE have with santa claus :confused:

Who could that possibly offend:huh:

Santa has to do with Christmas so we cant have that in public for people to see. :doh: :rollem:

Merry Christmas everyone....I am going to set up my Christmas tree tomorrow..Anybody want to come over and see it?? sssh..I will be dressed as Santa..Dont tell anyone tho..Xmas is a religious holiday.Yes.But look at how many "different" people celebrate the "same" holiday but yet call it a different name..IT'S A tradition....Everyone needs to relax and let people celebrate how they want to and call it what they want to and not try to push their beliefs on everyone else...

There is room for everyone

Been really busy - missed this thread.

Its a Christmas Tree!! That's it!! No more debate.

The other day my family & I went to cut down a big green tree at this place that had a sign that said:

"Christmas Trees".

Then we hung these bright funny colored things on it called:

"Christmas Ornaments" and "Christmas Tree Lights".

(Actually, I went fishing for a couple hours while they hung the Christmas Ornaments on it Sunday night. :hee: )

Then we made a space under the tree for these crazy things called:

"Christmas Presents".

Oh, and by the way, since my soon to be 6-year old son was born on December 25, his birthday is on:

"Christmas Day".


What the heck are "holiday trees", "holiday ornaments", "holiday tree lights", "holiday presents", and "holiday day".

Give me a break.

:hihi:

Santa has to do with Christmas so we cant have that in public for people to see. :doh: :rollem:
:faga:

Well, if it forces the Christmas Tree Shop to change its name, I'm all for it :D

I used to wonder how my ex could drop a deuce in a place where the most expensive item was $6.99. Then I looked in her bag one day and found 30 bottles of suntan lotion. "But it was only $1.99 a bottle". Great, a 30 year supply---I guess the fact that there was an expiration date on the bottles and PABA loses its effectiveness after a couple of years never occured to her :rollem:

I guess a little humor was needed...:hee:

:faga:


Lots of coal for you this year!:tooth:

HAPPY FESTIVUS!


Gather 'round the Festivus Pole, it's time for the Feats Of Strength!

:jump1:


:biglaugh:

Another great Seinfeld episode. It's still on my DVR, I might have to watch it again before it's deleted.

WOW.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but all this time, i guess since the elections, I figured you were in your 50's by the way you posted. .

No offense taken. I guess thats a good compliment so i'll take it:tooth: I'm one of those rare young blue collar Massachusetts conservatives. :rotf2:

Spoken like a man that gets it. :D must be the beer
I'm not overly PC but then again who cares...
Jon Stewert had a GREAT quoteabout gay marraige... and I paraphrase:

"Wait, I'm now being told that gay marriages will not be mandatory. So who gives a SH!T?"

People can call their tree whatever they want, but who gives a crap, honestly., They arent forcing you to call it a holiday tree. They arent mandating that all the trees sold must be called Holiday trees. They, being a government, which is supposed to be seperate from church wants to call it a holiday tree. big F'ing deal
.


This country would definitely be a whole lot better off if there was more of a "live and let live" mentality.

What problem does ANYONE have with santa claus :confused:

Are you kidding me...Huge Problem

He's a 300 lb. Guy with an Overeating Disorder who Binge eats about 3 billion cookies every December 24th (Doesn't say much for the Obesity Problem in this country) and who has a Penchant for suits made of Crushed Red Velvet (Now if this was San Fran or P'Town, Fine)

He runs a Sweat Shop 365 days a year 24/7 ( Unfair labor practices) and its manned by Elves (they prefer to be called "little People")

He Hitches up a bunch of animals and Beats them into the ground every year (PETA, need i say more) and then sneaks into little kids rooms plying them w/ Presents in the Hopes that they will start writing to Him (Now it could be innocent but if Micheal Jackson did it...Whole different story)

Don't even get me Going on the whole "Bad or Good, Naughty or Nice" thing


****Disclaimer**** This was just sarcasm so please take it as such.

well...i think if they wanna call a christmas (more-christ) tree a
holiday tree from now on.....then it will be my right to have a holiday tree for every damn holiday of the year... and there's 15 of them!

just think about that.... the possibilities are endless...
On Easter you play easter egg hunt around the tree.....
on president day you break out the president ornaments
4th of july ....decorate with just red white and blue
on halloween you decorate the tree with allot of orange pumpkin lights and hang candy all over it

well you get the idea.....:uhuh:
i'm planning on establishing a christmas farm with hundreds of
christmas trees that will never be cut and always be lit up via solar
powered batteries.... what are they gonna do next make christmas caroling illegal.... too :doh: society needs a bitch slap.