View Full Version : What are you going to use in place of river herring ?


striprman
12-08-2005, 11:54 AM
I need some alewife and blueback lures.

ThrowingTimber
12-08-2005, 12:22 PM
Why minks of course :smokin: :vamp:

zimmy
12-08-2005, 12:26 PM
dannies, sluggos, fins, redfins, bombers, big pencils, houdinis, surfsters etc etc :huh:

cheferson
12-08-2005, 02:05 PM
Why dont you mass guys use a black salty?

Rappin Mikey
12-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Bassassassins, pencils, and big storms

Thom
12-08-2005, 02:16 PM
Bombers mega baits fin-s and the like

tattoobob
12-08-2005, 02:21 PM
9 inch storms shads, Eels,

Gloucester2
12-08-2005, 03:03 PM
Why dont you mass guys use a black salty?

I think they are illegal in MA

Saltheart
12-08-2005, 03:21 PM
Mombo Minnows and FinS Fish.

big jay
12-08-2005, 03:23 PM
Piping Plovers.

RIROCKHOUND
12-08-2005, 03:44 PM
Live Kittens

chris L
12-08-2005, 03:47 PM
cow left overs

MoroneSaxatilis
12-08-2005, 04:24 PM
Why dont you mass guys use a black salty?
EXACTLY what I was planning on doing UNTIL....

I think they are illegal in MA

Nebe
12-08-2005, 04:25 PM
polish shad, darters, dannies, epoxy smiling bills and M-80's:devil2:

reelecstasy
12-08-2005, 04:26 PM
Why dont you mass guys use a black salty?
you haven't looked in my bag yet :hidin:

thefishingfreak
12-08-2005, 05:28 PM
sea herring.
mackeral.
pogies.
pollak.
cunners.
eels.
crabs.

don't matter, long as it's alive and kickin'

Bliz
12-08-2005, 06:40 PM
I'll be using Grand Slams...

Striper1
12-08-2005, 06:43 PM
sea herring.
mackeral.
pogies.
pollak.
cunners.
eels.
crabs.

don't matter, long as it's alive and kickin'

YES :D

1tym
12-08-2005, 08:07 PM
WOrms

thefishingfreak
12-08-2005, 08:10 PM
I'll be using Grand Slams...


ohh man,,,, i can't wait.
i have a feeling you won't be the only one using them don :D

JHABS
12-09-2005, 06:32 AM
Big New Wood Baits....................... Coming Soon.

striprman
12-09-2005, 06:43 AM
I would think with the moratorium on herring and possibly eels, that (commercial) plug builders would do well selling imitations of these 2 bait fish. Thanks for all the replys

bart
12-09-2005, 07:29 AM
white perch

pmueller
12-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Slugo's 9 and 7". Rigged for the circumstances your fishing.
Salty's Danny's are great too.

t.orlando
12-09-2005, 12:34 PM
Gonna use the same stuff I been using

Gloucester2
12-09-2005, 12:37 PM
EXACTLY what I was planning on doing UNTIL....


I may have spoke too soon . . . I went to the Black Salty website and they are illegal in freshwater in CA and FL . . . but no indication about MA/RI, etc.

I was not able to find anything in the MA DMF site about BS's (although it does have a section on bait).

The larger of the two sizes are $75 for 5 pounds which is about 80 baits.

bassmaster
12-09-2005, 12:39 PM
blue and silver pikes seem to work awsome in spring along with other colors and dannys with a tan back and shades of olive.
It depends on cloudy or sunny.
blue and silver dannys yellow ,olive and yellow,
pearl white with hues on side.
if the fish are hitting on top then its time to swim these lures.
in june at sun up the killer plug is a pike in yellow or a danny, worked on top.
many big bass for me.
remeber also
it depends where you are, have 1 place that the bass are down in am and up in pm and on the flood tide.
yet down the beaches you can whomp the piss out of them in am and in the inlets and P bay

CANAL RAT
12-11-2005, 03:42 PM
BIG dannys,finsfish,pencil poppers and blue back white belly buck tail jigs. bait-mack,pogy chunks,clams and worms

Nebe
12-12-2005, 08:54 PM
For me the spring is more about schoolie harrasing as i dont care for livelining herring.

the big fish aren't in yet and the schoolies are packed into corners and rips all down our coast.


This is what i used the past 2 springs and i kept it a heavily guarded secret until now.. Its not rocket science, but not many guys were able to outfish me when i was using this little puppy.

happy holidays everyone and i hope someone gives this a try next spring.

tattoobob
12-12-2005, 09:04 PM
Nebe, Is that the 4.5 or the 7 inch?

MoroneSaxatilis
12-12-2005, 09:06 PM
Nebe, Is that the 4.5 or the 7 inch?
...and...
2 oz... 3...?

Nebe
12-12-2005, 09:11 PM
4.5 inch. and for that photo i used a 3/8's head, but the head size should be determed by where you are fishing. 3/8's for calm.. 1- 1.5 oz for some current.

play around with it..Also, i always crush the barbs. Always.

Joe lyons even wrote about my sucess with this last spring in OTW...

tattoobob
12-12-2005, 09:13 PM
Have you ever used those Crazy Joe Rigs?

Nebe
12-12-2005, 09:15 PM
yes. They are deadly.

Nebe
12-12-2005, 09:17 PM
pearl cocohoes are really the staple schoolie lure. you wont catch a southcounty sharpie with out at least 10 in his pocket in april/may. Joe knew this and whalaa

squiddler
12-12-2005, 09:38 PM
If goldfish are legal in MA, than so are these fish. You can drive to RI, buy some and stop at a pet shop to get a few smaller goldfish to mix in. There aint a cop Iknow gonna take a second look. If you were to show them to a game warden, im pretty sure he wouldnt bat an eye either. Koi are legal in MA are they not? Anyone know if Koi are ok? Just tell them your tired of your pets and decided to try and catch dinner with them......:huh:

Redsoxticket
12-12-2005, 10:00 PM
Introducing fish that are foreign to our waters may cause damage to the streams and ponds where the herring spawn. Imagine goldfish (carp) or black salty's eating the all the eggs of herring.

J-golden
12-12-2005, 10:33 PM
thats what she said

Rockport24
12-13-2005, 03:09 PM
That is awesome Nebe, I will try it this year along with the cocochoes, I was just on Joe's site today drooling over his cocochoe rigs dreaming of catching that first schoolie of the year with them. I remember getting so frustrated last year that I wasn't catching a lot of schoolies in the spring, hopefully those days will be over come April/May!

Nebe
12-13-2005, 04:54 PM
your welcome. In the spring, think small. I mean really small. I have also put a grass shrimp teaser above that and have had many many double hookups. What usually happens is you hook one bass and as your reeling it in, another bass thinks its chasing the teaser The trick is not to winch them in quick, that way they have time to hit the 'unoccupied' offering. .. 2 teasers usually means tripple hookups, but thats cruel IMO.

Mr. Sandman
12-13-2005, 08:18 PM
The herring are fun but to be honest they are a lot of work to keep alive until the big fish come in. I do it every year and there is no question they work but man what a p.i.t.a. to get the bait to the location in June. Lots of effort and it upsets me if a little fish starts messing with my live bait that is almost like a pet I have had it so long.

Next spring I will be fishing storm shads on light gear in place of the live bait during the day. I will be experimenting with different dead (fresh) squid rigs I cooked up too.
At night though it is all plugs...the last two seasons springtime is wonderful for JB150's and small bernzy swimmers . I can't wait!!

Back Beach
12-14-2005, 08:53 AM
Three things:
1.storms
2.storms
3.storms

Goose
12-14-2005, 12:30 PM
Anything doesn't die when you stick a hook in it.

RIROCKHOUND
12-14-2005, 12:32 PM
Jim; check your PM's re: the squid rig....
:D

in my skiff in late may/june :D

Rockport24
12-14-2005, 12:58 PM
thanks for all the info Nebe, can't wait to try that out now. Is it spring yet? :(