Just finished watching a brilliant three-part, three-hour BBC documentary titled, "The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear." It originally aired in '04 just before our elections, and was just repeated on the BBC. (Friends in England highly recommended it, but not a single media outlet in the U.S. has had the courage to air it.)

Since the BBC refuses to issue it on DVD, the writer-director has made it available online from a number of outlets, with video quality ranging from excellent to lousy. Here are the best-quality links I was able to find:

Part I: Baby It's Cold Outside (http://ia300025.us.archive.org/1/items/ThePowerOfNightmares/chapter1_256kb.mp4)

Part II: The Phantom Victory (http://ia300025.us.archive.org/1/items/ThePowerOfNightmares/chapter2_256kb.mp4)

Part III: The Shadows in the Cave (http://ia300025.us.archive.org/1/items/ThePowerOfNightmares/chapter3_256kb.mp4)

It's a riveting examination of how we got into this mess, and who put us here. Well worth three hours of your time.

pffft.

i just viewed the funniest porno flick/parody i have ever seen.

it's called edward penishands and the guy who plays the title role is a dead-ringer for johnny depp.

go away

http://www.debatepolitics.com/

who said i was looking for a debate???

http://nofimagazine.com/03movrev.htm

:laugha:

Fishweewee, i pitty you.

its quiet.. They must be planning a 'group attack' in the ledge :bshake:


tools.. all of you.

pit·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pt)
n. pl. pit·ies

1. Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the hijacking of one's thread.

2. A matter of regret: It's a pity my thread got hijacked.

pit·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pt)
n. pl. pit·ies

1. Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the hijacking of one's thread.

2. A matter of regret: It's a pity my thread got hijacked.

3. Feeling bad for a coward who has to post attacks under a false name


:wave: Hi

"Saving Ryan's Privates" is also another one of my favorite after-dinner films. :hidin: :hee:


---- Thanks for screwing up the web filters ben....

nobody said that you were looking for a debate, it's a forum where politics are discussed, thought you might be interested that's all.


I don't know if I could watch 3 hours of that video:doh: too long for me and my attention span :D
nobody is talking in the ledge
I'm not a tool, I use them though

weewee you are whacked, I'm not messing up my computer ckicking on any of your links

Hello , what gives? :confused:

I am going to hunt you down like the liberal commie that you are you.. you... liberal commie

:eek5:

nobody said that you were looking for a debate, it's a forum where politics are discussed, thought you might be interested that's all.


I don't know if I could watch 3 hours of that video:doh: too long for me and my attention span :D


then dont watch it :spin:

i watched one every night. Its heavy stuff, but its very enlightning.

Over 30 attacks, 17 countries in 8 years, 5500 innocent dead, 3200 Americans.
You can pretend its a Repulican conspiracy all you want, Al Queda is a terror network.
http://billroggio.com/flashplayer.php?media=alqaeda&w=640&h=480

I think media hyping, like these BBC movies, are the bigger modern conspiracy against the people

Originally Posted by iluvspots
I am going to hunt you down like the liberal commie that you are you.. you... liberal commie

I couldn't have said it better myself....I guess. :bl: :laughs: :eek5:

Guys - lighten up please.... Both of you :)

Originally Posted by Nebe

:heybaby:



Hey Nebe, uh, I don't know what to say. :eek5:

I'm serious - we've turned the corner on January - I don't want to see childish pissing contests like this from you two...

Exsqueeze me JohnR, but who mentioned anything about a pissing contest?

I am seriously confused here ... I post something here in jest and then someone thinks I am jumping down his throat?

What's with all the defensiveness? Eben why are you so jumpy all of a sudden?

Hellooo? Where did all the love go? What the hell happened to this place?

Somebody, anybody?

go to lunch Ben

antagonizing isn't on the menu here today :)

that's all, ok?

Exsqueeze me JohnR, but who mentioned anything about a pissing contest?

I am seriously confused here ... I post something here in jest and then someone thinks I am jumping down his throat?

What's with all the defensiveness? Eben why are you so jumpy all of a sudden?

Hellooo? Where did all the love go? What the hell happened to this place?

Somebody, anybody?

Ben - use your regular FWW account. One account only.

Who says it's a pissing contest - surely looks like the start to one. If you two are all lovey - then share the :love: . I didn't see much "love" in this thread. I don't want to see things go south on this.

What happened? It's Winter, we are all jonesing a little, and stirring schnit for some, uhh, release, may be good for you but not be the best way for everyone to have some fun.

What's with all the defensiveness? Eben why are you so jumpy all of a sudden?

Hellooo? Where did all the love go? What the hell happened to this place?

Somebody, anybody?
It went with the Bass...It'll be back!!!:hihi:

to get this thread back on track, those 3 links are a BBC series. there is no conspiracy theory, no finger pointing... its just a mini series that simply points out things that happened in the past that led both us and the muslims to where we are now. thats it. plain and simple :D

It's really very good, not biased, but informative and interesting.

-spence

who said i was looking for a debate???

when are you not?

Geezus I goof on you guys and all this political "one-upsman-ship".And thats exactly what it is.Its all point of view.

Put a crackhead and a straightedger in the same room and ask them to debate the pros and cons of 1oz of crack.

Crackhead:"Its 1oz of crack!:happy:

Straightedger:"Its 1oz of crack!":nailem:

Relax guys.It was Bill's fault,it is GW's fault and it will probably be Billary's fault!

all i did was try to share something. :hs:

festivale d'homo

Nebe, I think Dangles is asserting he'd like to share some screen time with you :hihi:

-spence

I'll pass. but thanks for the heads up..

where is skipN?? im suprised he hasnt added to the mindless ramble

where is skipN?? im suprised he hasnt added to the mindless ramble

I thought that was who you were trolling for originally. :D




......And be careful what you wish for

wasnt trolling.. scout's honor. :)

Nebe - Less time watching movies, more time making plugs :laugha:

yes sir right away sir :wave:

Well i can't open the link in the opening post but i'm sure its more of the usual Nebe anti Bush/ anti war on terror %$%$%$%$.

I like this site...A group of pro America/ Pro war on terror folks who protest the lefties at thier wacko anti war rallies. Watch some of these videos and see for yourself how %$%$%$%$ed up liberals are! You can really see the hatred for America and Bush these people have at the rallies. its quite scary and alarming. I swear they hate Bush more than they hate Bin Ladin. These people are %$%$%$%$ed in the heads.

http://www.protestwarrior.com/

Well i can't open the link in the opening post but i'm sure its more of the usual Nebe anti Bush/ anti war on terror %$%$%$%$.


nope... just a documentary :usd:

nope... just a documentary :usd:

Sounds like one of those Micheal Moore type Documentarys that the liberals wack off too cause its all anti Bush/anti war on terror.

nope. :o

Thanks Nebe......:wave:

good grief, someone actually watched it??? :tm:

Sounds like one of those Micheal Moore type Documentarys that the liberals wack off too cause its all anti Bush/anti war on terror.
Not really, that's not to say it doesn't paint a decided picture but it's pretty objective at the same time.

I'd say this, watch it and if it challenges your pre-concieved views...think about what's played out more accurately in the past few years.

-spence

the funny thing is that parts of it are anti liberal. Its great if you want to catch up on the who's who of global strategists and the propaganda that our govermenet feeds us as well as the propaganda the muslim extremitsts feed their people to fuel the fire. Furthermore, it explains why there is a fire in the first place citing the cold war as an example..
Its done by the BBC and is un-biased.

i thought it was interesting. :huh:

I wouldn't say it's un-biased...as it does present a viewpoint that's somwhat counter to the Administration regarding the nature of the terrorist threat. Perhaps it's bias is that it's pragmatically biased.

Not that there isn't a threat, but how our perception has been manipulated...and how the Islamists have manipulated their people.

Hence the whole "nightmares" theme.

Interestingly enough, the substantial points echo much of what I read in the book "Imperial Hubris", written by the ex CIA Bin Laden analyst.

It's not liberal, but very critical of the Bush Administration. I could go on an anti-neocon rant here, but you could just as easily watch the videos :wave:

-spence

I like that show 24, they know how to deal with terrorists:faga: :nailem: :behead: :rocketem:

great show :kewl:

the funny thing is that parts of it are anti liberal. Its great if you want to catch up on the who's who of global strategists and the propaganda that our govermenet feeds us as well as the propaganda the muslim extremitsts feed their people to fuel the fire. Furthermore, it explains why there is a fire in the first place citing the cold war as an example..
Its done by the BBC and is un-biased.

i thought it was interesting. :huh:

The BBC is very anti war/ anti Bush. So to say its un biased might be a stretch

Jack Bauer kicks ass

The BBC is very anti war/ anti Bush. So to say its un biased might be a stretch
The key word there is "might"...

Since you haven't seen it you really have no idea do ya? :wave:

-spence

I like that show 24, they know how to deal with terrorists:faga: :nailem: :behead: :rocketem:

Did you catch it last night.....Jack is getting ready to get medeivel on the Presidential Advisor's A$$...

The key word there is "might"...

Since you haven't seen it you really have no idea do ya? :wave:

-spence

Im talking about the BBC in general not the Documentary. And the links dont work so i cant see it. One would assume if its put out by the BBC thier same leftist agenda will dominate the Doc.

Im talking about the BBC in general not the Documentary. And the links dont work so i cant see it. One would assume if its put out by the BBC thier same leftist agenda will dominate the Doc.
Have you ever watched anything on the BBC, or is this just what Bill O'Riley told you?

-spence

The BBC can't be all bad......They gave us Monty Python and Benny Hill........:spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: Lovely :spam: Wonderful :spam:

the link works fine.. i suggest clicking it and then open another window or something to kill about 3 minutes time and then you should be ready to have some :lurk: and be enlightened.

It Won't open...Maybe its best i dont watch it. If you like it i'm sure it will make my blood boil just a little.:tooth:

Skip, this is how it works.

You watch the video. If it challenges your notion of world events, you ask yourself...

Self, what parallels can I draw with other events considered probably factual that would give credibility to one side or the other?

With a little effort on your part, the truth may just be revealed, and it may not be what you think!

-spence

i dont know some pyschologist dude...on TV

was saying that january 24th is like the most
stressfull day of the year...
not that you were stressed out
nebe... :alien: