Just read somewhere that they got fish at the west wall today so i guess its time to start the S-B Year Long Tourney!

Here's how it works.

First you have to have ten posts on this message board. You then catch a big fish. You measure it and if you can , weigh it. You must have the fish witnessed by another member of striped -bass. Its their job to verify the size. You can release or keep the fish). Send in a slip (they are available online) to John with the info about the fish and the fisherman and the witness and signed by both people. Then you are in. There is no entry fee and there are prizes awarded . The length of the fish determines the winners. In case of a tie for length , the greater weight wins. If length and weight tie , first fish entered wins using the date John gets the slip as the entry date. . So its good to get the weight and the length and get the slip in fast. We don't know what the prizes will be. However last year there were rods and plugs , etc for prizes. We'll let you know.

I will build another Canal jigging stick for the person who catches the largest fish in the canal this season like I did last year. This year it will be a brute. The Breakaway 1209. I'm sure there will be many other prizes.

Don't confuse this with the famous Striped- Bass Four Leg gourmet gatherings and fishing tourney experience!! :). That is Catch and release only. We'll get that going pretty soon. i just wanted to get the year long going just in case someone lands a fifty this weekend (OJ got aquitted so stranger things have happened) !! :)

This is a shore fishing thing. John said he wants to do something for the boat guys too so we'll have to figure that out and announce it later. Maybe two divisions.

this year oughta be good like ya said

wow a breakaway 1209 that would suit me just fine

I have a question? You said that the fish has to be witnessed by a S-B member, if you kept the fish, wouldn't that be proof enough? The reason I ask, is I really haven't had the priviledge of fishing with any of you guys yet, and when I'm up there, you guys are not to be found. :D Can we amend the rules alittle? I mean, if I get one big enough, I'm gonna keep it anyway. :) Also, does it count if caught in another state other than RI? Sorry for the ???'s.

Thanks!
johnny

Whether you keep it or not . someone has to see it. Its a lot easier to find a witness if you keep it but it has to be witnessed one way or another. If we didn't ask for a witness we'd get all kinds of bogus claims of big fish caught.I think as long as there is another S-B person there to witness it , you can catch it anywhere.

Saltheart last year we were able to get the fish weighed in at a tackle shop, and have them sign the slip. THe four leg was the one that needed a witness because i was c&r .

I picked up my 1209 today from Mike. It is sweet.

Saltheart;

I totally agree with what your saying about having a witness. My point is how many people here regularly fish with other from the board? Most of the times I come up to Rhody, I get there at like 11pm, and leave at 8 or 9 the next morning for the trek back to Jersey. What if I caught one and had it weighed and measured in Weekapaug B+T, would that count? Sorry for all the ???'s, just trying to figure out if I'll be able to participate.

Thanks!
Johnny


P.S. Personally, I think only fish caught in Rhody should be eligible.

I'm new to this board & don't knowyou guys. I usually fish Charlestown breachway. If I caught a big striper & had it weighted at Breachway B&T would that count. Just wondering. By the way is there anything happening in the salt pond(Charlestown)? Good luck fishing to all.

Welcome Guyfish glad to have you aboard. I was not here last year and do not care how you set this up I just want to say thanks for all the work you will do to get this set up, and where do I pick up my prize:D

Ps a boat division:happy: :happy:

Did someone say Boat division :D

Yes a weigh in at the tackle shop is OK. Mike T (M+D's) and Don M )weekapaug B+T)and Salty dog (flyrodand reel outfitters) etc are members here anyway.The tackle shop guy can sign your slip. remember , its the length that is the primary criteria for winning. You can't just catch one and say , "I had it measured at XYZ tackle" Someone from XYZ has to vouch for you and send in the slip.
Jenty , the whole idea of the tourneys and the witness thing is to get people from the site to fish together. Come to one of the 4 legs and you will meet lots of S-B people at once. You'll also find out there are many guys from your area involved.

sorry striper1 you have to keep your feet on the ground for this one.

Specialist , I saw your rod drying on Friday at Mike T's! Nice rod!

Is there a link to the weigh in slips.
I would like to print them off to have at the shop.

Yes there is a link but we'll have to wait for John to find it. I looked and can't find it.

I had some free time this morning......:D:D:D

...I'm sure John's is much more official-like.....but I bet his doesn't include the Secret Spot......;)

.....{I wasn't serious about this, but if you want it, you can have it}....:)

just a question or two.. "1" can we enter a fish entered into the s-b year long as an entry into another tournament also? such as msba. "2" lets say someone catches a monster during the four leg, can that fish sweep the tourney? "3" last year in the rhode island leg i was under the impression that narragansett bay and points north were off limits for the tourney... uh.. is it?
happy easter all

nice job bloo..

Gee , We're going to have to hire Perry Mason to run this tourney! :)


Fish were you want. The regional rules were for the four leg where we limit you to fish certain areas of Mass or RI. Thats not for the year long. We may have broad limits like NJ to ME but I forget. Maybe John remembers.

I believe last year the rule was that you could only win one prize for a given fish. So if you catch the years biggest at one of the 4 legs , you still only get one prize for the fish and the next fish down moves up in the category you didn't choose your prize from. OK Here's the only rule that's really importatnt , John and I get to be final arbitors of what's OK or not. Last year , except for boat fish , we decided every fish everybody asked about could get in somehow. :)


This is for fun and to meet people and meet fishing buddies. Anyway , we'll post more details.

BlooCrab good Job. If you change it to general area and add date , we could probably use it.

Has anyone mentioned that we are going by FORK length again this year?

What if I catch it on a Tuesday and I can't weigh it until Friday and then work comes up and I have to call Slip to weigh it for me and while on route he get's a flat and calls BM to take it and then he goes mental on they way when he see's fish breaking at the getty he just drove by and then the fish dries out in the back of his sled and looses 10 lbs.............oh forget it.

Thats OK. Thats OK. Thats OK. Thats OK and Thats OK. :)

OK, ok, ok, ;) ... Couple things which are open to discussion here ;)

Saltheart - sweet rod offer!

Guyfish - welcome aboard! Breachway isn't a board sponsor (yet) but there is Weekapaug not too far for wieghing in a tourney fish...

For the year long, we want to encourage C&R, that's why the buddy system can work if two board members are fishing together and they don't want to keep the fish, the can measure overall length (not fork this year) and release the fish. There will be a minimum length, probably 42 inches.

One thing which we started talking about last year was weighing the fish instead - like on a Berkely Digital Scale. We need to figure out weight or length for a measurement...

Area - last year, we started with Mass, Rhody, & Maine but extended that to CT & NY, when witnessed by a board member. Weigh slips were also accepted from board sponsors like M&Ds, Weekapaug, Sportsman's Den, & FFSW. If we get some more board sponsors in CT, NY, or NJ - we can take slips in from them too.

Last year's slips are here but we may doc them up a little for this year: http://www.striped-bass.com/tourneyslipsyl.shtml

Their is no restriction on fish being limited to one tourney, as long as the rules for the S-B tourney is met.

Boat Division - maybe ;)

How is that for questions and answers to get this going :eek: ??

We got a competitiove bunch this year John. I thought they were gonna hang me with all the technicalities. :)
Anyway , item of discussion

Length vs weight...

A guy would have to be blind to miss a length by 1 inch but he could miss a pound or two easy do to scale calibration error. I bet if you grabbed 10 Berkeleys off the shelf and tested them with a known weight , you'd get a pound or two range on the measurements
Also , everyone has a tape measure to measure for a keeper but not many people have scales and would have to buy them. I have a 50 pound spring scale already. Its not a berkely though so that means it wouldn't count??? I use the thing twice a year. I'd get stuck with two. i could use each one once a year! :)
Anyway , thats my heavy sell for length not weight.

Looks like I'll have to log in a few more posts. The only unfortunate thing is that I'll have to fish with John S and Marc Z all the time. :D

Oh yeah , it seems like if MA and ME are OK then NH should be included too. They do have a coast line even though its a short one.

OK, this sounds fun! Just out of curiosity who won last year? :happy:

Originally posted by Striper on the Brain
OK, this sounds fun! Just out of curiosity who won last year? :happy:


:bounce: :happy:

I don't know if I agree on the scale issue. I used my 50 lb digital once and weighed a small cooler with a lead weight in it at 8.2 lbs. I brought the same cooler and weight to the post office and weighed it on their certified scales and it weighted 8.3 lbs. I'd say I'd have more confidence in weight on good scales vs weight estimated by length. Wev'e all seen racers that 10 years ago would have weighted 40 lbs and today weigh a fraction of that weight.

If I can put my two cents in. The tape is lighter to carry.;) Plus I can see the lines on the tape better than the scale. ;)

Bob - what the heck were you weighing a cooler for ;) ?

OK, this sounds fun! Just out of curiosity who won last year?

Slip won a sweet Loomis Canal Jigging Stick
Redcrbbr won a very sweet 9'graphite surf rod with an ABU6500
C-Ratt won a Surf Spinning rod
Fishpart won a Surf Spinning Rod (which I'm putting together next week ;) )

It was a lot of fun

Dispute about scale accuracy on another fishing board and that little experiment proved my point. That 50 lb Berkley digital is damn accurate, even at the smaller weights.

I've always been of the mind that the biggest fish goes by weight. I mean, a 43" fish could weigh several pounds more than a 45" fish and you always hear big fish described by weight.

But, I don't think its practical in a scattered, catch 'n release tournament.

I think by combining weigh slips for kept fish and board member witnessed C&R'd fish we inherit a little bit of "controversy"...

For example, my fish last year clearly was bigger than Slip's "lunker" (I use the term loosely), but the rules stated length. You never heard me complain that I caught the better quality fish and got shafted by the fine print. Its good enough for me to know that my fish was superior as are my fishing skills. Slip knows the truth, I know the truth, that's enough for me. Just like we all know the Patriots weren't the best team in the NFL this year. Injustice happens from time to time.

Going by length would seem to be the best solution.

I hope everyone takes this as intended... :smash:

Originally posted by schoolie monster
Just like we all know the Patriots weren't the best team in the NFL this year. Injustice happens from time to time.



I beg to differ!!...doesn't the saying go...."May the best team win!!"....???....well in my opinion, the BEST team did win.....with incredible odds against them at that...."Injustice"????...didn't they deserve the win??.....was it handed to them?....did St. Louis screw up, or did the Patriots clearly out play them....AND THE RAIDERS...AND THE STEELERS....who by the way, were also "supposed" to beat the Patriots...

How do you become the "Best" team??......question

By beating the best teams!!!........answer

...c'mon schoooolie, let us (Patriot fans) enjoy our moment of Glory ......at least until the next playoffs start.:rolleyes: ......moments like these don't happen all the time for N.E......use a different analogy please....:(

Just like we all know the Patriots weren't the best team in the NFL this year.


"we", who are you referring to ? We the raider fans ?


Who was the best team last year ?

Goose and Bloo,

Can't you appreciate some good hearted SMACK talk? I was taking a shot at Slip, but figured I could get everyone else with a shot on the beloved Patsies. I even qualified my remarks as a JOKE.

Raider fan?, I ain't no damn Raider fan, I wasn't sad to see them go... I'm actually a Bronco fan, so the Raiders are public enemy #1.

Your team won the tournament... they beat the best teams in the AFC and the best of the NFC. Whether or not the Pats were the best, doesn't matter... They wear the crown till Jan '03. Don't be defensive just because they only scored like 5 offensive touchdowns after week 7. Or because they needed touchdowns from special teams and defense to compete against other playoff teams. Or some fine print on some obscure rule that says its not a fumble when you have control of the ball, aren't passing, but were thinking about passing sometime during that quarter, then get hit and "drop" the ball. These are not reasons to have an inferiority complex. Jeez, just be happy, I mean, it was almost as great to win the Super Bowl as it was to have Ray Bourque win the Stanley Cup with another team.

And don't take it out on me because Pedro got shelled on Monday either. I like the Sox, alright?

Seriously, I think that the way the Pats won this year showed what sports should be like. Not a bunch of yahoos flashin' money, dancin' and chokin' and whinin' when things get tough. No, they didn't have the most talent. Yes, the were the best TEAM. They have rings, a sports illustrated video and a trophy to prove it. Being the underdog should make things sweeter for you as their fans. It means they didn't just buy a championship (see NY Yankees, yes a cheap shot against the Yankees should get me back on your good sides), they probably shouldn't have won, but they did because they showed up and played better football.

Now please, I'm waiting for a response from Slipknot.

Slip????

Lunker? more like racer, but it had a huge head :D
Your fish was bigger or heavier but John gave me 1st because you had a brainfart :laughs: and didn't get the fork length, therefore I win :D

I hope it goes better this year.
It doesn't matter whether you are a Bronco fan or a Raider fan or a Steelers fan, You understand how and why the Pats won it all.:laughs:

I agree , Slipknot's a lucky sob and Schoolie's a dumb sob. That about sums up last years - year long! :) :laughs: :p

But what about weighing them vs measuring them this year? Any more input?

I have the Berkley scale thanks to my lovely wife. I do think that OAL is best. Like GS stated all the shops go with OAL, it would make it easier. Plus it is not fair to expect everyone to get a scale. We could use the scale for the four leg, there should be enough there, but stick with the tape for the yearlong.

how about length and girth measurements? i'm sure there is a formula around here somewhere:)

Red - I offered the Length x girth method last year and nearly got skinned ;) . But there was some good points made, chiefly that it takes too long....