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BigFish 02-23-2006, 09:14 PM I have been approached by BasicPatrick (hogtied) to once again try to put together some plug turning demos for this years MSBA Fishing Show at Gillette Stadium. Many have inquired if it was going to be done again and I guess it will happen again but it depends on if I can get a few talented and interested bodies to help me out throughout the weekend. ;) My time has been limited in regards to doing as much in years past for the show but I promised Patrick I would see what could be put together.
If any of you folks have an interest in spending some time in the demo booth the weekend of the show, please pm me and we can get the ball rolling. Last year seemed to be alot of fun and many folks enjoyed hanging out in the plug demo area.....I may do some turning myself but I am hoping some of you guys could jump on board and make a fun time of it!:kewl:
I will be bringing many of my own tools for use so any interested folks don't have to worry about bringing a lathe, drill press and a few other items.
Please pm me if interested....what do you guys think? Should we do it again? Any ideas or requests I would love to hear them! Thanks guys.;) BF
capesams 02-24-2006, 07:39 AM how much you payin?
how much you payin?
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Raider Ronnie 02-24-2006, 07:00 PM You should do it !
Mac an Steve turnin last yr was worth the price of admission.
I bet it was a bit of a pain in the butt especially breakin down an settin up an being locked in the fishbowl.I hate workin like that myself.I'm sure they pay others to do demonstrations or talks that are only one hr. long.These guys go all day.so 8 times what that Crazy guy gets would be a fair price.Call up Jet an see if they will do a sponsorship.U would be surprised.How many lathes do u think they sold on the east coast in the last 3 yrs.What about vega.slapp a banner up get a grand..I hope they do it this yr.It was the place to be..
Flaptail 02-25-2006, 07:05 AM heard a rumour tha Numbskull is doing a seminar...........;)
BigFish 02-25-2006, 07:33 AM :hidin:
capesams 02-25-2006, 08:42 AM heard speaker's get $250.00 for flapin their lip's for 2 hours....Mac,bruce and I spent well over 38 hours combined intertaining the crowd along with setting up and breaking down the equipment,with help from their crew of course[txs guy's]...it was standing room only at time's it got so crowded,,plug hardware vendor's wanted to be in the same room they saw so many people......it went very well with no problems.......we did it for FREE and were glad to do it ONCE.
I certainly don't think 250 each is out of order.at least u would get some spending cash.wether or not those guys are there will probably determine if I make the drive or not.I can basically get the same thing at the risa show an save some time drivin.we have a few good shows down here by me.I really don't need any tackle.I come for the good time.That booth was a great meating place I sat an talked with Paul an Taggers old friend I forget his name the canal guru.That was priceless.
Yes last year was a great time and hopefully we helped some people in learning what goes into making a wooden lure. The volunteers did a good job helping with set up and break down and that was appreciated. Would I do it again for nothing...no. It cost me 35 bux for gas alone the 2 days. It had to cost CS atleast 60. This year it is closer for me but CS would spend 80+ on fuel alone. That's a lot of money for just a thank you. The other thing people don't see after you load up the truck to head home is the time involved putting the shop back into workable shape again. I have no regrets with doing the show last year and was happy to do it. It makes me feel good helping people, especially people interested in our passion of chasing fish.
Karl F 02-25-2006, 09:31 AM I enjoyed the "demo" last year immensely, plus, if anybody noticed last year, that was the busiest corner of the room, it was "the" draw.
I made a couple of tours, and noticed the crowd thinned considerable, as you got away from that corner of the room.
I thank you guys for doing it last year, and I certainley understand you not doing it again for free. Compensation should be considered, that "demo" is a lot more work, (set-up, tear-down, time spent), than a "seminar".. the difference being demo=free, seminar=$$
Flaptail 02-25-2006, 09:45 AM I enjoyed the "demo" last year immensely, plus, if anybody noticed last year, that was the busiest corner of the room, it was "the" draw.
I made a couple of tours, and noticed the crowd thinned considerable, as you got away from that corner of the room.
I thank you guys for doing it last year, and I certainley understand you not doing it again for free. Compensation should be considered, that "demo" is a lot more work, (set-up, tear-down, time spent), than a "seminar".. the difference being demo=free, seminar=$$
I have done a bunch of seminars and did the show last year, preparing for a seminar takes a lot of prep time also, it may not have the tear down, set up but then again you didn't have to be "on" while turning plugs. So let's dispel that myth here and now. As for those guys getting paid to do it, yes they should, just as anyone putting on any kind of demo or seminar should.
They were asked and volunteered and they sold a few plugs as well if I remember correctly too. I saw Slip demo'ing and selling some he hed brought. Honesty should be applied here. Kind of a vendor/demo thing happening there so some kind of rules should be in place for that but that's MSBA's problem. But as to the guy's bringing in %$%$%$%$ to set up and work with and getting paid, yes they should. That that corner
being crowded and also being next to the S-B.COM booth it was gathering place for the usual suspects on this board to congregate swap lies and have a laugh. I spent a lot of time there and most guys were sitting in little groups doing that too, shooting the chit.
ProfessorM 02-25-2006, 09:49 AM That would be Stan K., Mr. NIB.
Slipknot 02-25-2006, 09:55 AM Nib, that guy was Stan Kuzia - guru for sure. It's 20 minutes further NIb to Gillette :rollem:
I think it would be a great feature to have the turning demos again this year , I was wondering about it myself recently. Larry, I know you are busy lately but I think you and Patrick should try to make this happen again.
I think the problem with compesation with payment of money for doing the demo is an issue with liability to the club. Maybe some way of compensation can be considered some other way if it's difficult to get volunteers. Things went pretty smoothly last year and it seemed to be very safe. You had 3 guys that are professionals with tools so you knew you had plenty of experience behind there.
I'll see what I can do about getting a day to spend there, but the boss will have to be schmoozed:bshake: I'll work on it.
Slipknot 02-25-2006, 10:01 AM Flap, yes we were allowed to sell plugs if we chose to. I sold a whopping ONE plug last year.
You are right, MSBA will have to figure out the logistics of the demo.
Flaptail 02-25-2006, 10:11 AM Flap, yes we were allowed to sell plugs if we chose to. I sold a whopping ONE plug last year.
You are right, MSBA will have to figure out the logistics of the demo.
I have no problem with it Bruce just wanted to get the whole picture out is all in a clear honest way. And again I say they should be compensated and as far as liability goes, signing a simple waiver holding the MSBA harmless in case of personal injury or damge to tools and equipment is all that is needed.
Slipknot 02-25-2006, 10:20 AM yep, I know
and we signed something last year as I remember.
I'd do it again this year but like others have said, it's alot of work. I don't mind doing it for the club, even though I seem to never make it to the club cookout that they have every year.
I hope the show is a huge success.
BigFish 02-25-2006, 11:52 AM Myself and MSBA much appreciated all the folks who helped with last years demo. The cards were on the table in advance and CS, MAC and Slip knew the deal. They spent the whole weekend in there, it was fun but I too feel more compensation is required. I tried for some last year, got some donations from site sponsors (thanks to those guys M & D's, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and NJTackle). I will talk to who I need to talk to and see what I can do. Slip, MAC and Capesams....would you be interested if I can get it done?
reelecstasy 02-25-2006, 12:28 PM Hi guys, I have to agree with the fact that the plug turning demo was one of my favorite parts of the expo last year. Even though I hardly had any time to actually hangout and watch you guys turn for more than a few minutes at a time, it was a pure example of what MSBA wants in terms of an expo imho. Guys hanging out shooting the chit enjoying themselves. It's a social event not just some stagnant tackle exposition.
You guys did voltunteer a great deal of time. As did alot of other volunteers between the setup on friday to the very last hours of breakdown on sunday night. That is what makes the show happen, volunteers. It isn't easy to get alot of people willing to donate time to their club, believe me (I have a volunteer sheet for this years show, and it's only half full) But, I do think there should be some type of compensation if the show continues to grow. That's just my opinion. I will bring it to the show comittee, and i would love to see a turning demo this year..
BigFish 02-25-2006, 01:59 PM Numbskull aka George...will call you soon.:wave:
Bob Thomas 02-25-2006, 03:28 PM The guys that were doing the plug building last year were fantastic, and as people have already said, well worth the price of admission! I hope it happens again!
Since the monetary might run into "legal" issues, how about a "tip bucket" for the people turning. Something that would read, "due to legalities, we are not being compensated for our time and effort. Tips appreciated" or something.....I know I'd donate for it!!
It was a great pleasure to "pick some brains" while they were turning! I learned a great deal from it and thank you guys for doing it!
Charleston 02-25-2006, 03:47 PM If no donations are available from lathe, duplicator mfgrs etc. put tape over the logos. This is not a freebie!!
BigFish 02-25-2006, 03:57 PM Insurance is not an issue nor was it last year. We are going to see what can be done. Give us some time.
That would be Stan K., Mr. NIB.
THanks Paul.That was a great time.He was priceless.
Flap, yes we were allowed to sell plugs if we chose to. I sold a whopping ONE plug last year.
You are right, MSBA will have to figure out the logistics of the demo.\
Ya flap take a chill pill. :D I bought the Slip plug i felt bad for him.
I saw Flap talk an fell asleep. It was a long day.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zz
Diggin Jiggin 02-25-2006, 08:19 PM Maybe the guys that are turning could sell the plugs they turn at the show as kits to the spectators. You could even go a step beyond that and let people make requests for $$$. One naked pikie please, ok that'll be xx $...
[QUOTE=Slipknot]Nib, that guy was Stan Kuzia - guru for sure. It's 20 minutes further NIb to Gillette :rollem:
QUOTE]
Well if u could see my beard u would know its a far ride to MY razor.
Slipknot 03-05-2006, 09:17 PM Insurance is not an issue nor was it last year. We are going to see what can be done. Give us some time.
you still doing this? any news?
BigFish 03-05-2006, 10:11 PM Not sure....BasicPartick might know.:huh:
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