View Full Version : my boiler went spaztic !!


thefishingfreak
02-27-2006, 11:32 PM
all weekend were noticing this black soot arround the house.
the kids feet are wickid dirty, there clothes..there faces...everything plastic in the house is covered with black soot..
after a few days i go in the basement and !%$%$%$%$!!! the oil boiler is huffin' black soot out at like 60 puffs per second.
shut it down lucky the house didn't burn down. call the boiler repair guy he sais it's clogged up and running rich. whatever???, the boilers fixed..
but NOW!! my friggin' house after two days of this huffing,, is friggin' discusting like you would not believe!!
black SOOT EVERYWHEAR!!! the curtains the fridge the walls. kids are snorting black boogies out there noses. it's everywhear.
it's like there WAS a FIRE!!!

WTF?? should i call ins. co.?? maybe have servpro clean this mess up because i can't keep up with it and i'm overwhelmed.:crying: . big time.
every plug hangin' ...every piece of clothing.... EVERYTHING is friggin' BLACK soot....top to bottom!!!!
every !##@$ thing!!!!!!!!!!!:crying:

Raider Ronnie
02-28-2006, 06:14 AM
That sucs Mike

UserRemoved1
02-28-2006, 06:29 AM
Mike that sucks! Definitely don't want to be breathing that stuff...I would get an air cleaner working in there asap with the kids until you get it cleaned up?

Slingah
02-28-2006, 07:01 AM
your probally going to need a professional cleaning company and maybe paint
also might be an insurance claim
that s*ucks mike....good luck

NIB
02-28-2006, 07:04 AM
well if u had a little "click" o friends they could come over an hook u up.:(
That sucks.Lots of the tile wharehouses have oil forced hot air makes all the stock black.i hate that crap.Gotta be tough to klean up its like grease dust.Fantanstic an paper towels.Allot of stuff could be ruined call ur insurance company an see what they say.

fishaholic18
02-28-2006, 07:42 AM
Call insurance co., that's what it's for.
I had my hot water heater leak overnight a few years ago. F%$#@ water all over my finished basement. Insurance paid for it all. Like 10k if I remember right. Rate didn't even go up.

BigFish
02-28-2006, 08:18 AM
Will work for "paint"!:rotf2:

Van
02-28-2006, 08:36 AM
Same happened to my brother in law a few years ago. If you can deal with it yourself DO IT. But do it NOW, that crap aint good for ya, if its everywhere, then they (kids) are breathing it in. It can't possible effect your lungs !!!!:whackin: but aint good for the little freaks.

In their case, they notified insurance CO. who notified the city (maybe DSS) and made them move out because it was a hazard to the kids. Their mess was only in the basement, did not go through the house. Still they were out of their own house for weeks and until the "department" decided it was safe to inhabit again. NIGHTMARE!!

When I had that small fire in my daughters room, I called a fire/water restoration co and they came down and cleaned, I paid for it myslef no insurance CO.

Maybe get a carpet cleaning co in then and vacuum and wash the entire house.

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 10:51 AM
nibs right!
i called me mum, my sister, my aunt everyone i helped move over the years.... there up there now havin' at it with more rienforcements comming tonight..
i don't want a house full of strangers going thru EVERYTHING own.
i'll suck it up and deal with it myself.

UserRemoved1
02-28-2006, 11:11 AM
I'll come over if I can load the scooby van with PLUGS :pop:

Raven
02-28-2006, 11:29 AM
sorry to hear that T F F ....

whats the deal on your service policy for the furnace...

did they not come last year..... wtf...
how could it be that loaded with soot if the
yearly maintenance was done...??

i would see if the insurance company
would replace the whole thing.

Jimbo
02-28-2006, 12:31 PM
Happened to us when I was a kid. I remember the oil furnace guy saying, "What you had was a puff-back." My folks homeowners insurance covered a professional cleaning. Check it out, otherwise you're going to be finding and breathing it forever.

stiff tip
02-28-2006, 01:17 PM
freak .u may b covered on your home insurance. call your insurance comp. today .it happend to me years ago..good luck..capt cc.

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 06:47 PM
i'm calling the ins. co. in the morning!! eff this!!

the soot problem is in the basement.. so cleaning the top floors is doing nothing!! it comes right back!!
the carpets under the door jambs are black so it's comming up thru the stairwells with the rising heat.
the wife took the kids to CT. to stay with her mom and i'm calling the ins. co. in the morning!!!!:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

Slipknot
02-28-2006, 06:58 PM
:(
wow Mike that really sucks :(

sorry to hear that.

nightfighter
02-28-2006, 07:01 PM
Mike, screw tomorrow. Call your agent at home RIGHT NOW. They'll have sevice Pro or another emergency clean up company there on their dime. I have followed up on those types of home repairs before and they do a good job of getting rid of the crap, be it smoke, soot, or water damage. Only problem I've encountered has been when they cut sheetrock walls out after a flood, they didn't use a guide, so was too crooked to save upper half of walls.

mikecc
02-28-2006, 07:08 PM
My neighbor went thru this a few years back.
The first thing they asked for was the maintenance records.
He did not have regular maintenance so they did not cover him.

Team Rock On
02-28-2006, 07:37 PM
Beware of "preffered vendors" the insurance company sends on "their behalf". Companies like Servicemaster do not have your interests first, as the majority of their work is for insurers. I have a little experience in oil soot claims and these are some spots the "preffered vendor" the insurance company sends will miss. Soot will travel up any hole in the cellar (wiring, plumbing, heat ducts, etc,) and contaminate the wall cavities. Soot can get in the electrical boxes and light fixtures. My electrical service also contained soot. It can get into appliances and electronics. Servicemaster will clean the surfaces only on these things. I ended up hiring a scientist to take samples on these items and 9 out of 10 had soot in them. The oil soot is highly corrosive and according to the manufacturers I contacted, these items should be replaced. I wouldn't volunteer that you tried to clean anything yourself, as there are certain methods used to minimize the damage. If the furnace is still malfunctioning, it should be turned off.

Squid kids Dad
02-28-2006, 07:42 PM
By all means contact your insurance company..Yor problem is a big deal and needs to be handled right...Good luck

Team Rock On
02-28-2006, 07:44 PM
Hiring a public adjuster might not be a bad idea either.

Karl F
02-28-2006, 07:47 PM
Sorry to hear of this Mike.
I hope all goes your way, with the Ins. Co. and cleanup.

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 08:32 PM
i rent. i have 50k renters policy.
my boss..the owner of the body shop,, also owns the house.
the boiler was fixed and it was cleaned every year on schedual.
it came up thru the walls, the outlets, every little crack like rock-on said. i just went on a columbo mission and was SHOCKED!!!! it traveled up thru the walls, from the basement, three stories up and into the kids room and came in cracks between the sheetrock and the floor.:splat:
i gotta wait til morning to call ins. co after i talk with the bossman.
no worries til then as the damage is allready done..


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nightfighter
02-28-2006, 08:48 PM
Oh man that sux. You have forced hot air? You need those portable honeywell air filters that the painters use to get the dust out before they start their finish. Or a Jet air handler like I use in the shop. Hope the boss is reasonable

UserRemoved1
02-28-2006, 08:54 PM
Dood shut the furnace down if it's still blowing this stuff there is still something wrong man. Carbon Monoxide is nothing to fool around with Mike. That really stinks. Insurance will cover this if the maint records are ok. That is a mess. Stinks too prob.

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 08:55 PM
hot water heet. oil fired, tankless system..
problem was nobody caught this boiler going beserk.. bieng three floors up...and in the winter i'm the only one goes thru the bulkhead.
it's an old 4 story colonial house with the 2 oil burners in the basement. there's also a girl lives on floor one....
i got floor two and three.

i asked her if she got all sooted up and she sais no?? probly she don't have 5500 plastic kids toys hanging arround to notice it sticking to everything.
it looks like 250 mechanics live here.
or the fbi let off a fingerprint BOMB!!!

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 08:57 PM
furnace has been shut down->serviced->and cleaned!!!
not the problem,,,,,,, anymore..

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 08:59 PM
NO smell!!! NO stink!!!! even in the basement..

my NEW CO2 detector sais all clear..

Van
02-28-2006, 09:07 PM
That SUX mike, sounds alot worse than at first.
Just like the deal my bro in-law had.

Best to get the kids out, good call.

Hope the insurance works out.
Let us know.

Team Rock On
02-28-2006, 09:23 PM
Your landlords insurance should pay for temporary housing while they clean/paint etc. Also if you plan on cleaning any of your stuff use a "chem sponge". This is a rubber sponge that the soot will cling to. Don't use water until you get the majority of the soot sponged off. Add TSP to the water for a final cleaning after sponging.

BigFish
02-28-2006, 10:40 PM
Mike....you and your wife and kids been breating all that in too? You may want to have them checked by a Doctor.....check lungs, maybe blood levels....you never know!:huh:

thefishingfreak
02-28-2006, 10:53 PM
there all three, goin to the docs, first thing in the mornin' to be tested.
i'm an fl#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&' IDIOT for not recognizing this earlier!!!!
the silent killer. thats what i think about right now.
that pic with the foam road,, is RIGHT next to my kids beds..
efff ME!!! wtf!!
right now i'm very ashamed !!

Squid kids Dad
02-28-2006, 11:21 PM
TFF..Dont worry about it...The main thing is your family is safe...Let the insurance company handle everything else...if its yours or the land lords...Sounds like it should be the land lords problem..good luck

UserRemoved1
03-01-2006, 06:03 AM
Mike nothing to be ashamed about dood. Scary chit

vineyardblues
03-01-2006, 11:15 AM
WOW,
Hope everything works out Ok with you guys.
regards
VB

thefishingfreak
03-01-2006, 12:30 PM
whell.....
we're all covered.... the landlords ins. co. will cover everything they need to,, and my renters policy will cover everything they need to.
we have 12k worth of "loss of use" so they will foot the bill for a hotel..
we we're assured anything that needs to be done will be done..
i just called servicemaster and there on the way to have a look..

were still waiting on the kids blood test results..

NIB
03-01-2006, 10:35 PM
It's just stuff.We had a fire in the house when i was a kid.Stayed at a hotel for a week or so then it was with friends.I always remember that time it was a unique experence made us closer as a family. I was 4 or 5 yrs old....
I hope ur family is OK.Ur head musta been spinnin sometimes we loose perspective it happens to everybody.Forget that u have to be upbeat for ur family.its easy to turn things around.

Squid kids Dad
03-01-2006, 11:10 PM
good luck TFF

UserRemoved1
03-02-2006, 06:17 AM
I called Servicemaster this morning they said I can come and pick up the plugs anytime this morning while your at work

:wid: :hidin:

thefishingfreak
03-02-2006, 09:47 PM
lookin' good so far.
servicemaster was here within two hours of callin them. you would not believe what six guys can clean in one day :hs: looks like a hospital in here.:kewl: top to bottom you name it!!! it is clean..
first floor is done. top floor and the cave tomorrow.
then the basement monday.
they gotta take down 30 rods and reels and tons of plugs and clean EVERYTHING in the cave. i peeked up here today and one was cleaning the cleaner bottles in the cleaning cabinet.....:uhuh:
HUNDREDS of baby/kids toys you name it even reciepts notes i had kickin arround.. they clean it all... very impressive i must say... once you can get over the fact there's 6 total strangers going thru everything in your house it's smooth sailing...

stuff they can't get clean my policy will replace. we'll have to get to that later.???might have to paint a few walls etc. electronics damaged etc..

kids are fine... blood tests are fine.... there all up in a 2 bedroom hotel right arround the block, while bag up stuff like laundry and stuffed animals and such..

all good so far..they even cleaned my keyboard:kewl: like there bossman sais. "were good at what we do"!!

when life gives you lemons,,, make lemonade :D ..

Squid kids Dad
03-02-2006, 09:52 PM
TFF...
Good to hear..I have used Service Master twice unfortuneatly..Nothing but good things to say about them...They are very good at what they do...Good luck

BigFish
03-02-2006, 10:41 PM
Good to hear Mike! Hope its smooth sailing for you from here on out!:uhuh:

UserRemoved1
03-03-2006, 05:25 AM
great to hear this Mike. Glad to hear the kids ok too.

MAC
03-03-2006, 05:44 AM
Glad things are getting cleaned up for you and the family. :kewl:

Raven
03-03-2006, 06:06 AM
unless you can run a filter in the house in say a new shop vac
or other air purifier.... and it shows itself to be pefectly soot free

theres gotta be some residual soot in the air that will get inhaled
at a later date... so if it was me... i'd be wanting to make sure
that something was forever cleaning the air 24/7 until it ran for a week and was spotless.
And since your family (kids) had black boogers they'll need cleaner air than before to breath
for some time to help
give their lungs a break.

i'm happy for you that those guys are doing such a fine job.

stiff tip
03-03-2006, 06:39 AM
mike.. it will all work out .the family ok .still its socks.it happend to me 3-4yrs ago. let Ins. comp handle it .remember GET WHAT YOU CAN.they have lots of our money...dave.

Slingah
03-03-2006, 07:05 AM
thats good news mike:kewl:

fishaholic18
03-03-2006, 07:15 AM
Glad it's all working out Mike.
I want a Clean Freak plug.:jump1:

Karl F
03-03-2006, 07:46 AM
Mike, glad to hear things are back on track, and the kids are OK.
They even gonna take a layer of dust offa that muscle car collection of yours... coooool :D

Slipknot
03-03-2006, 08:07 AM
Mike, good to hear things are on the way to recovery.
I hope all the family are A OK and your stuff is fine.
I wonder if they are gonna clean up the electrical outlets and suck them clean and around any pipe openings as well since the soot seemed to travel up through there.
Make sure all the freak plugs are fine.

thefishingfreak
03-07-2006, 11:09 PM
an update..

servicemaster finished up today. as i said : there good!! 6 guys-4 days. my basement is clean. the house is clean.. shampood the couches you name it,everything, clean. they sent a dry cleaner over to take all the clothes, bed spreads, curtains, everything they could make a buck on they took. my suits, her wedding dress.babys crib dressing, you name it. dry cleaners picked 'em up and will return clean and pressed...
landlords ins. adjuster was here today. sais"not clean enough" they will paint the WHOLE place! top to bottom, no problem,.it's covered.
as far as the stuff stuck in the walls/outlets? nuthin they can do. it's in the walls like 80 years of other crap.so when it blows n/e at 30 it might puff out a little?? thats ok with me, it's done it's damage. it's only soot..
as far as personal belongings we'll have to get to that later.
thank god for insurance!


so far so good.:tm: i just want to get it DONE!!
wife and kids wanna come back home.