today was not my day... but i need an opinion on what i should do..


alright so my day normally starts at 5:30am and i get on the bus at about 6:40am... so i'm on the bus this morning, its rainin and so i shut the window, i shut it right one my left hand middle finger, it starts bleedin really good didnt stop for about 15 minutes or so.. i get to school, then i go to my first class internship, on tuesdays.. the main guy was out today, so it was like a free day.. and at 7:30 in the morning i'm out of it and so is everyone else.. i get back from gettin something for my friend and ice for my finger... and this kid named derek, he's in a gang and does drugs, and about 2 weeks pryer to this, he had hit me, pretty good enough to bruise my elbow.. but he starts startin at me with like this ticked off smerk on his face, doesn't say anything, and he's holdin a pair of sharp plyers in his hand pointing me, i know they're sharp, i found out the hard way about a month ago... but he looks like he might hurt me, so i start gettin scared cause i know this kid isnt scared to hurt me.. so i get up slowly, and i go in the other room, start cryin, and about 20 mins later, i'm in the vice principals office writing out statements.. the cop that was there said that he had done a felony on hitting me and thats when i think it hit me.. but after i wrote the statements, i went back to class, and heard nothing else about it.. so i have NO IDEA what so ever is going the heck on..

now people are sayin press charges and stuff, what am i gonna do, sue for someone hitting me with a bottle?? it just doesn't make any sense..

Tough one Katie, you didn't deserve that, nobody deserves that. I would speak to your parents and get their insight and you must have some guy friends, I would talk to them and have them have a little talk with this punk, and by talk I mean threatnen him or just beat the living hell out of the kid. NO man should ever think about hitting a woman - "ever"

Good Luck,

Ice

well the VP just called, and he's suspended for the rest of the week, and when he comes back, he's not allowed anywhere near me... but this kid is known to hurt people when he's pissed.. so we might have the cops have like survailence on this place tonight... so we're a bit bugged..

Katie, it's hard for you to imagine right now but you have done the right thing. You have stood upto him and others like him. You need to build a coalition of other kids who have been bullied and abused by this kid and have them come forward. He is a loser and in a one one situation he might be smart enough street wise to psyche you out but as a group he is nothing and he will get into further trouble as he goes. Make sure that you folks and the school administration know exactly waht is going on and tell your folks not to be afraid to call the Superintendnt of schools for your town or district. He is supposed to be working for you. Stay smart and stay safe.

Exactly what Flap sais. It is unfortunate that many public schools are like this, particularly in middle and high school, but the administrators need to know when stuff like this happens and they sometimes need to be leaned on (in a nice way) to make sure they stay on a problem.

There is a difference from keeping your mouth closed on a small infraction, but far differenet when a student is wielding a weapon with malice towards you. It is not a call that you should need to make, bump it upstairs to the admins and let them deal with it. Sounds like this kid has more than just this problem - it is a shame really as it happens unfortunatley with a LOT of kids these days.


Also good time to implement a little bit of a buddy system where you have a few freinds around when you can. It does limit chances for things to go wrong.

I see on a near daily basis what middle school admins and to a bit lesser extend, high school admins
go through on a daily basis. It can get pretty tough...

Katie, there was a punk like that when one of my kids were in 7th or 8th grade, kid picked on everyone. On day he shoved my kid to the ground and ripped his jacket off him. My wife found out and went haywire. Next day, my wife goes to pick my kid up from school to check out whats going on with this punk. Well, the little sh$t flips my wife off, bad mistake. Wife hops out of the car and gives the little sh$t a piece of her mind in front of all his friends, punk was crying like a baby when she got done with him. He never picked on another kid again as far as I know. He needed a little lesson on respect cause his parents probably never taught him.

I definitly found a few people i'm friends with that'll stand up for me, they all offered to kick the cr4p outta him, but i said no... my bestest friend in the whole world, were like brother and sister close and he acted like an older brother and everything.. he now also wants to hurt the kid, but i told him, if you care about me, don't do it, this kid has friends and weapons in high places and you'll get hurt.. and i told him about the 2 kids in this kids gang last week in fall river that got shot.. so he promised me... hopefully he keeps it.. so i know people are watching out for me which is good..

Katie - it is very important that he keeps the promise. The need is really for someone to watch your back, not settle a score because the game rarley ends until someone gets really hurt. That is just not a fight worth getting into.

No, you just want him to watch your back, that's all...

i've been tryin to call him and let him know whats goin on, but he's at work and wotn be home till about 9:30 and thats a bit late to be callin, cause this kid knows where he lives and he'll go to anyones house and hurt them if i care about them and i care about him like he's family if not more.. and his instincts sometimes get farther then him sometimes.. so i might call his work..

Katie, THAT SUX! Between a rock and a hard place...say nothing and he keeps doing it...only worse. say something and face possible retalliation right??? well look at it this way...you did the right thing because now if he tries any of that crap again its on record and others will be on the lookout for it.

I am not the best at advise when it comes to bullies (heck I am 31 and still deal with it amonst "adults") is that if they see that what they are doing is "getting to you" they will keep doing it because it makes them feel like they are in control. Without that feeling of control or power over you they will generally back off! So stay strong, hang in there, were praying for you!

Thanks.. yeah i did do the right thing i guess... so i guess all i can do is wait, and start lookin over my shoulder again..

now people are sayin press charges and stuff, what am i gonna do, sue for someone hitting me with a bottle?? it just doesn't make any sense..[/QUOTE]

Last I heard a physical threat can constitute assault.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
That's jail.
Any kind of contact(like hitting you with something like a bottle) is assault & battery with a dangerous weapon.
That's lots of jail.
Forget about school administration; talk to the police.

In Massachusetts the liklihood of this kid going to jail are slim and none, and Slims in Texas.

It is difficult to call pointing pliers today at you a threat that would constitute a crime even though he hit you in some fashion a month ago causing your skin to bruise. If thier was a case pending against him today for the hitting you with the pliers a month ago then pointing the pliers at you would constitute intimidation of a witness, but probably not be considered a threat. They are somewhat one in the same. The threatening to have occurred would have to have been something overt, either a speaking by the punk or a physical action such as moving toward yopu quickly, which generally would be coupled with whatever the punk uttered to you.

An assault occurs when something is set in motion towards you but either stops short or misses. Misdomeanor assault would be someone swinging thier fist at you but missing. Felony assault would be jabbing at you with the sharp pliers and missing.

The illegal touching of another is the definition of assault and battery by any means. Thier is misdomeanor and felony hear also the same as in assault.

Assault and battery by means of a dangerous weapon, which is what happened to you when he hit you with the pliers is what the officer you spoke with at school meant when he said the punk committed a felony. Three weeks or a month after the fact even though it was a felony would not be considered arrestable even though felonys are arrestable after the fact. In other words the felony does not have to be witnessed by the officer. He can take a report of the felony and then go affect an arrest.

Do what Flaptail and JR said. Strength in numbers and fill your parents in completely. If he shows up at your house dial 911. If he bothers you in school find the nearest adult or teacher. Any further problems with him you might want to suggest the new harrassment law that was enacted a few years ago. It might be just what the doctored ordered. Where you are confined to a building for a day with this kid it could be a remedy. Oh and before you ask anyone, do not try to get a restraining order. Since the punk is not family and you never dated you wont get a 209a. A judge though in court could issue a stayaway order, which if he violates could be considered a violation of probation. It takes longer for the probation violation to kick into gear, but its something to keep in mind.

well, just got word... he got arrested at like 1pm/ 2pm..he ran out of the school into the woods, like an idiot he ran towards home..they had k-9 dogs after him and all, they got him maybe a mile almost 2 away from the high school.. they put him int he cell and he complained of pain, so they brought him into the hospital, cop in the ambulance with him, and a cop car behind, so he was at the hospital, guarded.. they tried contacting a parent i'm not sure if they got one, if not he's either in a cell or in the hospital guarded..

Sweetie you definitely did the right thing. School officials need to know of this kind of stuff, I don't know what is going wrong in the world today. Like Jenn said it's still tough trying to deal with it amongst "adults". I'm glad he got arrested...maybe it might be a reality check and I hope he gets what he deserves for hurtin you like that, physically and emotionally. And like John said make sure you have a support group whether it be one friend or a group you will definitely need someone to fall back on. Keep your head and your spirits high! We are all pullin for you!;)

You should press this matter as far as you can take it. It is obvious this person needs help.

I'm glad he got arrested...maybe it might be a reality check


i don't think it's gonna be a reality check for him, he's been in lock up a couple of times, and he's been in trouble with the law many times.. he was expelled from school but they let him back in.. trying to figure out why..

Katie.

Want me to take him "fishing" :hihi::huh:

Katie.

Want me to take him "fishing" :hihi::huh:


lol that'd be great, but no, i'm staying back, he's the kinda person that if he's mad at you and can't get close to you, he will go after my friends.. this kid, such a dumb a$$... but he'll pay in the end.. dunno how but he will..

thanks for the offer dave!