What's everyones thoughts about it ? first fish is a 30 pounder then goes up from there. I haven't got a 30 pounder in 2 years :soon: and with the yoy indies I dought I will get one next year. so I don't know if I am going to sign up

It will be competitive...as it should be.:heybaby:

Whats the rules?????

Rules and info can be found on the OTW website.....I am wondering why the contest is ending on September 17th????? Best fishing of the season is after that??????:smash:

I just said the same thing to my wife, I think it should end at the end of November. It looks like a very fairly run contest.

Yes it does....should be interesting! Whats up with the closing date though????:doh:

Rules and info can be found on the OTW website.....I am wondering why the contest is ending on September 17th????? Best fishing of the season is after that??????:smash:

My guess is that most boats are taken out of the water by then with little consideration for the surf rats that are there til Oct/Nov.

Problem is the surfrats stand a good chance of catching a cow after the closing date!:smash:

..I am wondering why the contest is ending on September 17th????? Best fishing of the season is after that??????:smash:
Was wondering what they were thinking also. As if shore fishing for cows wasn't hard enough, they cut-off our best time frame.

I'm wondering where the weigh stations will be? More importantly, is striped-bass.com considered a club for this tourney?

I'm wondering where the weigh stations will be? More importantly, is striped-bass.com considered a club for this tourney?

I bet there will be a list soon.

you make a good point about the club thing, I wonder also

If sb entered as a club we would f'in OWN that thing :vamp: :uhuh: :rotf2: :devil: :hidin:

I asked someone at OTW about the ending date. The big shindig at the end is timed to coincide with the in water boat show on 10/1, and they need 2 weeks to add up all the scores.

Just a thought, but since the MV derby starts around the 15th of Sept, I was wondering if they did not want to have the overlap. Hmmm, 35 bucks to enter, boat and truck as prizes, big fish get you a key with a luck of the draw to win...I wonder where they got that idea from?:D I would like to see them cook up their own unique ideas but....

I welcome it and hope it is successful. It might take a few years but it should be fun. I don't see exactly how it mimics the Schaffer cup but we will see. Do you join as a club or a state? I have not read the rules yet but I will probably toss in my 35 bucks for the helluvit.

It looks ike 2 fish a week at 34" plus. If it goes by a calendar week (meaning the week starts sun- ends sat) and you have to get your fish weighed in before the weigh stations close on saturday, it ought to make for an awful lot of friday all nighters :grins:

Just what I need, more incentive to fish on the weekends.:bgi:

first fish is a 30 pounder then goes up from there. I haven't got a 30 pounder in 2 years :soon:
Note to self: Do not ask Bob to be on Team SRI. :jester: :jester:

I should have asked an OTW rep at the show, but how does a club go about signing up? I still haven't seen anything on the OTW site about it. I did pick up the flyer at the show. I thought it would have more info on the club side of it. As one who was not fishing during the Schaefer tourney, I am very interested in this.

I agree that the time frame is out of whack. I would venture to guess that there were more boat guys on the planning committee than surf guys.... :uhoh:

I would venture to guess that there were more boat guys on the planning committee than surf guys.... :uhoh:

I was thinkin the same thing.Thats where the money is.

Striper Cup

http://www.onthewater.com/stripercuphome.html

$25 for club members and subscribers to OTW. You need to declare if your fishing for a club at time of application. Like most I not crazy about the time frame. Looks like us surf guys will have to score big and go large in June and July. On a good note those have been my best months with October and November not far behind.

Great concept tough to compete with boat guys.
Weekly surf prizes of rod an reel combo's to largest surf bass.i think all other entries are boat or surf.Do i really need another rod an reel combo?Will I be able to convince say 30 of our 150 members to pay 25 dollars each to join?Here's what i'll happen i will join for a few yrs.Maybe win a penn slammer an gti combo.an then the next yr.I say screw it.Then I will get a bass that would win it all outright.

for 2007
we should go to otw and striper cup committee and put in for two divisions
boat
surf


NIB.......THE THREAD LIVES

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...

Part of the reason I didn't sign up at the show.OTW doesn't really reconize NJ.I still didn't get last months magazine.where will i have to weigh a fish at.???they say u have to be at the harpoon party to be eligible for the boat but they don't say where or when.Plus I really don't like boat an surf combinds.There are time we surf guys would smoke embut overall i think boat guys hjave a much greater chance to win so in essense my 25 dollars would be a doantion.I would rather buy a HAB's

I am sure they had alot to concider in this contest, I really think they should have different divisions, surf/boat it really seems like a nicely planned and thought out. this is the first year and it will take a couple of years of tweaking. it is hard to make everyone happy I am sure they will try there best.

NIB.......THE THREAD LIVES

Jimmy Ur a riot.
One long running gag...

I chatted with a rep for awhile there on sunday. Currently they have way stations from NY north to Maine. I asked specifically about NJ and he stated not yet. The year end party is at the Harpoon Brewery in Boston (been to a couple Octoberfest there - great time). Will be interesting how this first year runs......

As far as the date ==========it sure ain,t for the boat fisherman ///WTF do you think we catch are large ???? July 4th weekend :smash:

Rules and info can be found on the OTW website.....I am wondering why the contest is ending on September 17th????? Best fishing of the season is after that??????:smash:
at otw office two wks ago i looked at pre rulse rules.reason is, its the last sat -sun ,and in 2 wks the party, and so on.2wks is a short time to get tropheys ,awards, etc,etc .etc .....get it ??? its a very short timethats the reason the staff worked on this fishing derby right too the end..... capt. cupcake ???

I thought there were 2 divisions? Surf and Boat?:confused:

I also think boat and shore should be seperated..And the cut off date should be extended..Lots of fishing left...I will be signing up anyways...:jump:

I just reread the entry form and no where does it say it is a separate contests. it keeps saying biggest fish. I would like to sign up with a club.
Does any one know if MSBA is getting involved?

As far as the date ==========it sure ain,t for the boat fisherman ///WTF do you think we catch are large ???? July 4th weekend :smash:

Theres a boat out of conn. Adriatica i think has had 60 lbers the last 2 yrs right after 4th of july..In Montauk they have been murderin giants live linen porgies same time.guys who know the waters an fish it hard like Kenny cowhunter an his sinsei Gary could have a field day in a tourney like this.It goes on an on.

The local tourneys such as the ms challenge, tri-state, mv tourney and the fishing club legs are more interesting to me. I don't want to be accountable to have to try to catch a 30#, 40#, etc. for what a pin or a rod/rell combo. I'd rather just fish and enjoy the moment.
The best part is the t-shirt and festival along with winning the Striper Cup for a club because it would represent the club and not just me, me, me.

If I read the rules right it's the club with the most points that gets the striper cup. Points are 1 pound = 1 point. you are allowed 2 fish a week over 34 inch.

The guys on this board that know me know I like the added chalenge of a tournament BUT I am not takeing 2 fish a week. That's a lot of striper fillets.

I will stick to the local msba Tournaments.

If sb entered as a club we would f'in OWN that thing


you tellem VIC ! :musc:

I think there are seperate boat and shore divisions, remember seeing something....

• Angler Of The Year
Trophy will be awarded to the angler who accrues the most points over the season in both the boat and shore divisions


• Weekly Winners (20)
-Weekly Boat Angler Winners (Largest fish of the week)
Rod and Reel Combos
-Weekly Surf Angler Winners (Largest fish of the week)
Rod and Reel Combos

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...
I will be.
They have not worked out the final details with me yet.
They are working on more weigh in stations. Some shops have not gotten back to them and some shops have not even opened for the season as of yet.
They will be adding more. Just give it some time.

i enter several turnys each year just for some added fun . i have never weighed in a fish yet . (not very good at catching large but hopeful) , i am not going to kill a 32"-40" fish just to have a weigh in , when i know it won't win . 2 fish a week x how many entrants , way to many fish killed ,imho , i won't be signing up for this one

yeah, they separate boat and shore for angler of the year and the weekly prizes, but it seems like that is it. It does not say if any of the other awards are separated boat and shore.
The other thing is that the bigger clubs have a huge advantage, but I guess that is just their reward for being a good club and having a lot of members.
Not sure how I feel about the two fish per week thing either, I doubt a lot of people will weigh in two fish per week, but I guess it is a concern.
Overall I think this is a good tourney. Leaving the big money prizes up to chance rather than who caught the biggest overall fish is a good way to work it.

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

I am going to sign up just participate in the first Schaefer Trophy being offered in a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if OTW is showing respect for the grand dame of all new england fishing tournaments, the MVSB & B tourney, by having 9/17 as its closing date. They probably dont want a fish being weighed in in both venues. It could take first place prizes in both tourneys taking the wind out of one or the other tounanments.

In reality the other day when I took the Scheafer Trphy from flaptail and ut it on the cart to be brought upstairs at "the razor" is probably the only time I'll get to hold it.:jump:

TattooBob it was nice meeting you ans the wife at the Razor.

I think I'm going to enter. I like the fact that they're trying to restore the spirit of the old Schaefer tournament. As an individual (and I'll wait to see whether they'd allow s-b.com to qualify as a club before I send off my check) I wouldn't be entering 34" fish. My goal would be to have a pin, even a 30 pin.

It's the first year. Bound to be some growing pains, and participant feedback might allow OTW to fine tune the rules. I don't love the 9/17 end either, but lets face it, everyone has a shot at big fish in June. Plus, the 9/17 cut off really hurts New Yorkers more than it hurts guys in New England. Lots of years the fall run in NY hasn't even started then. As far as not wanting to compete with MV, assuming there's a weigh station on-Island, I don't see why a fish couldn't be entered in both. Weigh it at Coops, #^&#^&#^&#^&s, Larry's etc first if the Derby's cutting a fin would disqualify a fish. But, I'm willing to live with 9/17. You have to realize that tournaments like this rely heavily on the major sponsors, like Harpoon. If Harpoon wants the awards ceremony to coincide with their promotional interests, like an Octoberfest sort of celebration, you have to let them have it if you want their sponsorship $$$.

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney :hee:

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney :hee:

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!:gu: :cheers: :claps:

Flap,
i agree,
I think it would be fantastic to have s-b.com win this cup..

what do you think john??

Many of us belong to more than one club to begin with.Declaring which one you're going to fish for is a hard choice already.Throw in s-b as another choice and sharpies will have their heads spinning and lines will be drawn:spin: The pins will be a nice incentive for me to fish more than usual.People think it's easy getting cows from shore before the close of the tourney but I don't remember too many bigs coming before that date.From the boat though....:angel:

The rule below prevents what you indicated about entering because you have a last minute catch. It appears one can enter anytime providing.......

• A competitor must be registered in the derby 1 DAY BEFORE commencing to fish.

I`ll do it! Can you do an individual and team entry concurrently?
Sounds like fun. Like Flaptail said, to be fair, you would have to have a timeframe for entry....say between now and May 1st.

$25.00 per member to John.

Sounds exciting! :bl:

Again, I'm interested. I would like more clearly defined boat/surf fields. I don't really understand what the rules are saying about awarding points in that regard

Like Flaptail said, to be fair, you would have to have a timeframe for entry....say between now and May 1st.
:bl:

The rules have already been posted what is unfair is circumventing the rules.

The rules have already been posted what is unfair is circumventing the rules.

? what do you mean? I`ll have to go read all the stuff I guess.

What I am saying is if S-B.com fields a team entry there should be a signup with a deadline to be on the team. Doesn`t seem right if a S-B er joins up Aug. 23rd catches a biggun on the 24th. Might fit the rulles but doesn`t look good...and yes that is just my opinion.

I`m from Ma. so I don`t know if I can join anyways. Isaw something about State/Club entries.....I might just have to do a solo entry.

Still sounds exciting!

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!:gu: :cheers: :claps:
Well, Neal did not ask me :hihi: what I thought (nobody did for that matter) and nowhere did anyone say S-B would not consider fielding a team. Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB :tooth:

Seriously, I was going to look at more details at the show but did not get a chance and I had not made any determinations yet.

As for a member signing up on S-B and then entering the OTW cup as a S-B member, perhaps our normal rules would apply that in order to participate as an S-B torunament member you need at least 1 week of registration and 10 posts - as long as that fits within the rules of the OTW tourney...

If all registered users saddled up for SB omg!! Total ownage!!!!

I understand guys want to fish for their clubs as well though, but the level of OWNAGE think about it... :heybaby:

The same can be said with other on-line clubs with members exceeding 10,000+

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

I agree. Lookin forward to it.

[QUOTE=JohnR] Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB :tooth:

QUOTE]

I no Nothing.
I especially don't know what a doppelganger is.
Whats with the tooth thing??
Don't make me end this thread.
Not about killin lots o fish for total points.Anymore.killed my share in NJ club tourney's.Definetly not a tree hugger though. i love to eat fish.
All kinds.
Not sure i need any pins either.If it becomes something along the lines of shaeffer i might miss out on ownin some when i'm old an gray an no one will believe my line o crap.
If any talent gets in it will take a 60 lber to win.

Guys, I think you are putting the cart before the horse with this website team. The teams are representing the states they are in. How could S-B.com as a regional forum field a team only from one state. Maybe have state divisions of S-B.com. I don't think it is fair to the smaller traditional clubs, like my own CTSurfcasters with under 200 members if a 10,000 member site is allowed to compete. I don't think I like the fact of 10,000 formerly C&R guys trying to take two a week for a trophy:hs: . A fishing club should be defined as a chartered club that holds monthly meetings. Maybe have a website challenge division next year. The key word here is traditional.

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!:gu: :cheers: :claps:

Whats wrong with the odds 10,000 to 200? Better than Lotto. :bl2: And does that mean your CT club cannot fish in RI?

Seriously though.... John would probably have to field a RI and a MA team.... with some kind of set number. Though when all is said and done I think many will opt for solo membership.

[QUOTE=JohnR] Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB :tooth:

QUOTE]

I no Nothing.
I especially don't know what a doppelganger is.
Whats with the tooth thing??
Don't make me end this thread.
Not about killin lots o fish for total points.Anymore.killed my share in NJ club tourney's.Definetly not a tree hugger though. i love to eat fish.
All kinds.
Not sure i need any pins either.If it becomes something along the lines of shaeffer i might miss out on ownin some when i'm old an gray an no one will believe my line o crap.
If any talent gets in it will take a 60 lber to win.

Ok so I just looked up Doppleganger."A flesh an blood duplicate of ones self encountered while walking down the street."
Johnnee don't Flatter urself.. I Am The Handsome NIB Manitoba.
There can be only one.:tooth:

Guys, I think you are putting the cart before the horse with this website team. The teams are representing the states they are in. How could S-B.com as a regional forum field a team only from one state. Maybe have state divisions of S-B.com. I don't think it is fair to the smaller traditional clubs, like my own CTSurfcasters with under 200 members if a 10,000 member site is allowed to compete. I don't think I like the fact of 10,000 formerly C&R guys trying to take two a week for a trophy:hs: . A fishing club should be defined as a chartered club that holds monthly meetings. Maybe have a website challenge division next year. The key word here is traditional.

S-B.COM MA Team, S-B.COM RI Team, S-B.COM CT Team, many ways to do this. B.A.S.S. is a club/organiztion with a zillion members, yet they still field teams in tournaments.

I agree that there are many ways to do this so why don't you contact OTW and change the rules so that every club can adhere to the same rules.
I personally like NIB's opinion on this derby.

I don't think I like the fact of 10,000 formerly C&R guys trying to take two a week for a trophy:hs: .

Rethinking here ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dave... this is an excellent point. Even if its only 500 entrants. I`ve kept one bass since I`ve been fishing in 97 and a few more I gave to other fisherman.

This killing of more bass would be a big negative and would surely be a factor for fishers striving to win in this contest.

If I do enter the Cup I think I`d only keep something over 40# and I`ve never caught one over 40 yet but if in the Cup I`d be much more inclined to try harder.

Mike

Rethinking here ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dave... this is an excellent point. Even if its only 500 entrants. I`ve kept one bass since I`ve been fishing in 97 and a few more I gave to other fisherman.

This killing of more bass would be a big negative and would surely be a factor for fishers striving to win in this contest.

If I do enter the Cup I think I`d only keep something over 40# and I`ve never caught one over 40 yet but if in the Cup I`d be much more inclined to try harder.

Mike


I was think'n the same thing also.To win overall Someone will put up some huge numbers.This will garner mixed reactions.It's a different world now.

Two fish a week would be a ton of fish for my family. The CTDEP advises that women who are pregnant or want to become pregnant should not eat any striped bass. Everybody else should have no more than one meal every two months. Thats only six meals a year. I would have to find a soup kitchen or something to "dispose" of all those pounds of fish. Too bad it can't be some kind of catch and release. I too have not kept a bass in the last several years.