How are they on gas?? What engine/tranny?
Thinking of selling the pick up and getting a Wrangler, would like to get a mid to upper '90's with auto tranny. I'm reading that they only get 17mpg???

My son has 97...4 speed..4.0 liter...He gets around 15 mpg..I thought it would be more...:gf:

My son has 97...4 speed..4.0 liter...He gets around 15 mpg..I thought it would be more...:gf:
WOW, that sux, not much more than my hog pick up.

I know its not a Jeep, but I get 17-18 mpg with a Boat like this: 96 Lincoln Towncar.
I was going to show a picture, but had posted it once already.

had a couple of 4.0 auto cherokees and they got around 16 mpg.

I'll trade you my 2002 Wrangler V6 4.0L for your boat........ (I wish).

I get about 17 mpg. manual transmission. Fun to drive, but not very practical. I haven't had my back seat in for 2 years.

With my Grand Cherokee (same straight 6 as the small Cherokee and Wrangler), I get about 17-18 city and 20-21 hwy. Not that I do any "city" driving any more ;) 19-20 average for "mixed" driving. I did about the same on my small Cherokee. I think the Wrangler suffers from its non-aerodynamic body---lots more places for air resistance than a Grand Cherokee.

If you go with the Wrangler, don't try to save an mpg or two by getting the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder. The difference between that and the straight 6 is night and day.

Used to have a 28 foot Bayliner. It was new and it only got about 2 miles to the gallon at cruise. Now I have a Land Yacht 5.4 Expedition gets about 16 average. Last Jeep Cherokkee I had with the V-6 got 10 mpg....it sucked. Find a Tracker or Sidekick they get about 24 mpg.
I had to add:
Get rid of those one piece sticks. The new 2 piece surf rods are great. You don't have to worry about theft, just lock them up! St. Croix's are super. I'll never go back to making my own, except for boat rods.

2004 4.0 5spd, 17-18mpg. You can get 20 if you are very light on the fun pedal. You don't buy em for the gas mileage. My last wrangler with a 4.2 5spd got 12-14 mpg till I trashed it.

Short wheelbase=easy to tip over.... Lost a good friend in a Bronco2 when we rolled over in 78. No good.

Guess the Wrangler is out. I want to try to get something that gets in the 20's. I want 4wd and be able to tow a small trailer and be able to fit 10' rods in it, asking for too much?:sled:

Wrangler= rear main seal :P

Look for a lod toyota pick-up , I got a 02 Pre-Runner and love it .

Nightfigther....I can tell you have never "Owned" a Jeep CJ...Wrangler or TJ....you are just repeating what others who have never owned one have heard. Yeah....like anything else if you take a corner doing 70 the thing is going to flip over......if you put yourself in a stupid situation...bad things will happen. I have owned 3 CJ's and believe me, they are as stable as anything else and I have never come close to flipping one over....WHY? Because I don't put myself in stupid situations. What were the circumstances of your friends tragedy? Just curious.:huh:

I had a wrangler and even though it was fun... it had more problems then you could imagine. You name it, it broke. It also wasn't that great on the sand. My 4runner is 10 times better.

A friend of mine bought a new 04 auto wrangler and in the first 5K miles, he had the brakes stop working, clutch fail, and rear diff leak. On a side note, the roadside assistance came up short when they didn't show up, then they told him to call someone on his own and they would reimburse him. They never did...

Jeeps with a 4.0 do not have reliability or safety issues. I beat the snot out of mine and its fine. I also know of many jeeps with 150-200k on them and thay still run fine. I'm on my 2nd and it took a pond and my poor descision making to kill my first. IMO the reliabitity has been awesome in the 1997+ models, despite Chryslers take over. Safety is just a common sense thing, its not a mustang. The biggest downfalls of wranglers is the size(freakin tiny) and the mileage.

Guess the Wrangler is out. I want to try to get something that gets in the 20's. I want 4wd and be able to tow a small trailer and be able to fit 10' rods in it, asking for too much?:sled:

4 cylinder Tacoma maybe. Even the auto should get around 20 if you don't ride it too hard. Fitting rods "in it" may be a challenge though. With a cap on the back you should be able to open the back window in the cab and shoot them through.

Larry,
I was in the back seat, got blown out rear hatch. 2/11/78 two days after Blizzard. Hit a snowbank and we were over, with 35 gallons of fuel that ignited. Yeah, alchohol was involved. Was my junior year at UMass.... I don't need to argue my opinion, it's not going to change.

But your opinion is of a first hand bad experience with a Bronco 2....not a Jeep. They are different vehicles and as I said its all about how you drive them.;)

like Larry said - the jeep is as good as the person driving it. The 4.0 is a great sand bug and if anyone has trouble driving one on sand they will have even bigger problems with any other sand vehicle. I get 16 or 17 PMG deprnding on how I drive it. :humpty: