I was watching the news the other day when those guys in the freshwater bass boat went into the drink off Westerly because they forgot the plug and thought to myself, "I bet one of those guys doles out fishing advice someplace on the net under a fake name."

One of the founding tenets of internet culture is that it should be a diverse and democratic system - a medium where you do not need credentials to participate. In principle that's a good thing. But for a while, I've had serious reservations about the rise of message boards as a primary source, and the quality of, and the motivation behind, the answers to the various questions that are put forth.

Why do we need anonymity? What if there was a message board where you had to use your real name to participate?

well stated joe,

thats why I use my real name

Also, when you meet guys from the site, and you introduce yourself, they dion't have to say what your site name is.

Makes one more thing less complicated

freshwater bass boat -> ocean
butter knife -> gun fight

Makes No difference to Me.
I do think alot of the BS an Flaming would be easily cut in half.
lots of the folks here like urself are well know public people.
many here know me also I have put my name up here before.
Here I'll do it again.Tony G. I would have used it as my original handle but it was taken.Whats in a Name.I know more about some folks here An I could not tell ya there name.There are people who's names I know i would like to forget..

Here I'll do it again.Tony G.
Tony, could you provide your last name and address so I know where to go to find the plug you promised for the charity display :rtfm:

:)

I use my name as well. While I'll say some wacky things at times I'm not afraid of defending my statements...or admitting error.

-spence

I dont post my name because I spend too much time out here while I am at work!

Sometimes even the best laid plans can go wrong.I think regardless of whether we use our name or not on the site there would still be flames.Lots of people aren't hiding behind a pseudonym but rather the monitor.I've had people ask me why I'm so opinionated on the site but not in person.Well,when I see someone at a show or fishing the conversation doesn't go much beyond"what's up" or some other small talk.On the other hand issues are brought up on the board that invoke passion and debate.Kinda makes the world go around.

I have been using internet groups since way back when usenet was cool... well not exactly cool, but you get the idea. Always used my real name. Good tennets to follow are not to say anything online you wouldn't say to someons face. I don't necessarily mind the anonymity, except when people hide behind there screen name.

I think the login could be made secure. It would be a way to distinguish the site from the others, and it would lend a credibility that is lacking.

Sometimes even the best laid plans can go wrong.
No they don't.
The best laid plans always achieve their objectives.

It is like everything else, know your source or get a second opinion. How many times do people give advice on a message board when they have no real experience with what they are taking about? They might have read on a another message board that this or that is the right rod for the canal, for example, tell someone on this board and never have fished the place. I have seen it many times but I don't think that using someone's real name will change anything. You have to spend a decent amount of time on a message board to find out who is credible and who is not.

I do a lot of bs'in and joking around on the boards etc.. its my nature I love to laugh.

But if its a fishing related question and I have some insight on the issue I give an honest opinion that I have tried or have in practice myself.

On the first fishing message board I signed up for, Ty was taken. I don't have any other names, so I needed to think of something. I'm only a member of 2 boards, and just kept the handle.

I agree with Jim Sylvester though, I don't like nicknames, and hate having to explain who I am and my handle. Some guys their handle is their nickname, and it's annoying having to explain that for me it isn't.

I'll happily change my handle here to Ty just to make you happy Joe. As long as you give me a discount on my next order.

This is a great point, we have serious problems on the Car forum I sponsor. There are too many people who have never turned a wrench, but just regurgitate information that they read somehwere, and quite a few times end up giveing bad advice that ends up blowing up peoples cars!. I will have to say that this place, as far as boating knowlege is great compared to what I am used to seeing elsewhere.

No they don't.
The best laid plans always achieve their objectives.
More cool-aid perhaps but this is the real world not some multi-level marketing pep talk.That's why many great men,teams ,and countries have fallen.In the real world we try our hardest and that's not enough sometimes.

The bass boat in the ocean part is still making me laugh.

bart= bartolini......anything i say online i'd say to someone's face

PIEMMA Paul Iemma

The bass boat in the ocean part is still making me laugh.


I am willing to bet every guy on this board has the same look on our faces when we saw that boat on the news hahaha

And in the interest of full disclosure, I've lived most of my life in Iowa so please take any saltwater advice I give with a grain of salt :hihi:

-spence

When I first joined all the fishing boards, I had no idea that I would enjoy them so much and actually WANT people to know my name.
I was very skeptical of internet communities and did not think I would really even post anything, now I am hooked and I would rather change my screen name to my real name. Which is Matt T. by the way.

I am willing to bet every guy on this board has the same look on our faces when we saw that boat on the news hahaha

My father always has the best reaction to those people.
A long drawn out sigh and walks away.

And Joe, you have my CC# want more do you want?! :rotf2:

but then again

some names people just naturally mis -speak, replace with a variation

find hard to remember .....or just plain get it wrong all your life!

and hells bells you didnt choose the damn thing....your parents did!

so i am known as Raven - the one from Ocean Beach or the ob1

and so i have become ravenob1 to indentify me from all other "ravens"

I got the nickname Mugs way back when.........some people I know don't even know what my first name is and I've known them for years!!!!!
It's Scott by the way....

Tynan is my sons name. Mine is Casey for those who don't know.

That silly bass-boat party story has nothing to do with this Board/ community! Beyond being smarter than that!... I for one would much rather fish from shore, than go out on a small/ uncomfortable/ inappropriate Ocean boat regardless! (& I bet most here agree!)

Your other point though Joe is a great one, but is a Thread/ topic of it's own! (i.e., credibility on the 'Net). Steve K. here :angel: -- but there was another here already when I recently found this place! (But my handle does bring back fond memories!-- if you were there too you know! :drool: )

Really am from Manhattan-- but those who know me, know I fish more than work! :usd:

The moral of this story - don't always believe what you read on the Internet. Use the Internet (and this board) to look things up, inspire your thought process, and to meet other people.

The "annonymity" of the Internet is much like anything else when large members of public congregate. If you are taking the train to work and here annonymous in the next ailse taking about the next big stock or something, do you believe them? Do you research it? Or do you blindly go out and drop 10K on that hot stock tip?

The best exchange of ideas and knowledge is still between persons, face to face. The internet and in my opinion how this site works, allows people to meet and develop relationships about FISHING...

And like most things in life, you get out of it what you put in...

bart= bartolini......anything i say online i'd say to someone's face
...and in the past you cannot believe how much trouble that has gotten me into...just ask JohnR

What John said. Don't believe what you read online unless you know the author, don't take anything too seriously As far as screen names, Back Beach in my real first and last name. My parents are Rocky and Sandy.

Vic M was taken by a nerd who kept askin questions about which rod and reel for what...

Didnt want to get mistaken for him.

Everyone usually just calls me Vic tho.

Compared to most, the internet was/is new to me...I actually got a job in the PC/POS world 2 weeks after buying my first PC, boy were they stupid or what??..LOL.... I was and still am weary about putting personal facts on the net, I always feel someone's going to charge a million chalupas on my CC. .. I think I became a member on this site a week after buying the damn thing...again, with fear of fraud...I created bloocrab, I have an infatuation with them (Callinectes sapidus)...sometimes we even share the bed, of course I rubber/band their claws...but once the foreplay lost me some fores KIN...so I've learned and adapted.
If I like you,,,,you can call me Gilly. If you don't know if I like you, don't call me anything, I don't comment on what I don't know about or haven't tried. ... but like John said, take it all with a grain of salt.

As far as screen names, Back Beach in my real first and last name. My parents are Rocky and Sandy.



LOL....now that is funny!:laugha:

Name is Jay.....I sell parts.

"Spin" is actually the first part of my last name and the rest was just a clever play on words which makes my handle somewhat of an oxymoron. :bl2: When I do actually hook up with folks from a forum, that is when I introduce myself as Paul. :bl2:

RIROCKHOUND = I'm a geologist..
the ironic thing is I do almost no work with actual hard rock geology.... I'm a sand and dirt kind of guy....

the ironic thing is I do almost no work with actual hard rock geology.... I'm a sand and dirt kind of guy....
Actually, now that I know...I can tell :hee: :bl2:

-spence

my real name is scooby I'm a 4year old Lab , my owner likes to fish but can't use a computer to save his life. :gf:

And in the interest of full disclosure, I've lived most of my life in Iowa so please take any saltwater advice I give with a grain of salt :hihi:

-spence

Spence nailed it. No matter where he is from or anyone else of salt.is from Internet advice should be taken with a grain...........or actually a chunk

starting to sound like a Alchoholics Anonymous meeting...Hi my name is_________, my screen name is _____ and yes i live to fish

Mine referrs to falling out of the god damn boat and having to swim for it.

My name's not actually Janie Jones, but I am known as Janie to one or two of my friends. :angel:

:gu:

[QUOTE=bloocrab].... I was and still am weary about putting personal facts on the net, I always feel someone's going to charge a million chalupas on my CC. .. QUOTE]

Bingo! I dont have problem letting you all know my name....first name that is....but my full name plastered on the internet NO WAY.

I am actually shocked that bloo's response wasnt reflected in everyones response as to why they didnt use their full names. With fraud and identity theft such a problem in this day and age we all need to protect ourselves!

very few people I meet know my real name or my screen name,I don't ussallly talk to too many people when I'am out fishing.people who I do meet If the site comes up I'll tell them who I sign on as.I mean really If I sign in as jason or shadow do you know who your talking to?As far as bad info, thats just going to happen no matter if it is on the beach somewhere or right here.How many times have you heard some clueless guy telling someone else about fishing,while hanging out at the water somewhere?

The same thing can be said of information written in print.or Info from any other form of media.So what I know ur name.What difference does that make.The NewYorkTimes Makes sh!t up.
Fisherman Lie.
Thats a known fact u can believe what u wish or not.
U still have a choice to Not Drink The Cool Aid.
Me I love running thru walls.:hihi:
Instead of beating around the bush with some hypethetical BS why not call someone out when u think they are wrong. I do.

U know if my last post sounds a little of color well maybe it is.I think I might take offense to ur claims as I am often one of the posters spewing information on this site.I hope u don't have a problem with me.When I'm not joking I really try to be sincere.I am not the most knowledgable striper person out there.Frankie D has that one wrapped up.:D
But I try when I think I can.

On another board a lure builder was caught using multiple names talking up business and slamming other builders. Mind you this builder claims not to own a computer. If names were used the moderator never would have had to step in and bring this to the attention of others. Funny how so many names with1 post are to slam a person , subject or to sell something.

On the other hand I know more guys by their screen names than their regular names.:cheers:

For most topics it doesn't make any difference, but when its a controversial subject or someone's being critical, it's tough for me to take someone seriously that hides behind a fake name.

On another board that I post on, we have to sign with our name. Not necessarily a full name, but something more than a handle. Controversial topics are always much more civilized.

Suprisigly NIB makes a good point.The entire relevance of using your "real" name doesn't and shouldn't mean squat.Credibility is something that is earned not given to a person who chose to sign a certain way.NIB's word is gospel and I think it stands for New In Box.

Well,when I see someone at a show or fishing the conversation doesn't go much beyond"what's up" or some other small talk.
Perhaps people just don't find you that interesting in person?

-spence

SD agree's with me?
Where's the Cool Aid.?
:wall:

Perhaps people just don't find you that interesting in person?

-spence
Come with me ,to brokeback kitchen.I have special sauce to make you go:blush:

Come with me ,to brokeback kitchen.I
:uhoh: :cheers: :devil: :faga: :rotf2: :rotf2:

-spence

See maybe it's better no one nows thier name.:err:

What about the rest of the iceberg of people who are not contributing?
What is behind their reluctance?

Hi - my name is Joe Lyons and I'm from P-Town. Sorry Joe - just a little joke. Some years ago I started on a site as Labrador 1. I did so because all the other names I saw were like that - and at the time I trained Labs so I figured that would be a good name. Most people know my plugs under my actual name (R.M. Smith) but I've kept the Lab1 name for sentimental reasons - or possibly because I'm too busy or lazy to figure out how to change it! I'm all for less anonimity on these sites - but I'm guessing the whole screen name thing is pretty well established.

What about the rest of the iceberg of people who are not contributing?
What is behind their reluctance?


Who cares what they do.An what does this question have to do with this thread.
People don't post for alot of reasons.They hide with there head in the gound like a ostrich.It's always a very small percentage of population that post's.Unless there is a plug giveaway.'Just like real life.More people vote in American Idol than the presidential elections.Then they piss an moan when gas is 3 bucks a gal an there kids in the middle east in a war.I really don't give 2 sh!ts what they think either.
U didn't answer MY question. Clint..

I chose this as a site name because it's where and how I fish but my name is Dave.

I would wager that the small degree of accountability that comes with having to sign your name to your statements would lead to a less threatening environment. Lurkers would be more apt to join in.

All the boards are pretty much on the same format - nobody is really doing anything significantly different. There can't be just this one way.

Start your own board where you can have all members lay on your couch for 20 minutes before they can post.

Interesting post Joe :smokin:

My name is Mike and SkitterPop on S o L.

Though I try not to be, at times I am guilty of misinformation or just plain wrong information. In taking a hard look at myself and to determine why this is true I discovered the impetus for this skewed info. was that I wanted to have a feel as if I belonged , to participate, show that I knew something, or possibly had a different take on a matter.

Looking for acceptance in all the wrong places :usd: .... I guess :huh:

Interesting post Joe.. Funny.. day before you posted this, a "Senior Angler" who lurks on these boards, but has not posted yet, made the same comments to me.. (If ya see this, I think it's time for the "Senior Angler" to come on board!).... He has said the same thing, a lot of what he sees that is inacurate, gets preached as gospel, and if anyone says otherwise.. well.. the pigpile can be ugly.
And, his point was, "Who, is the person, behind the name?" No way of knowing, on the net.

I am what I am, and who I am, no hiding, my screen name, is my name. Misinformation, been guilty, on occassion, but, also try to go mop up, if I learn I posted wrong. I've been fishing a long time, but to me that does not mean much, could be I'm just making the same mistakes over and over.. still try to learn something each time I go.. and take this site, and others as "Entertaining Education"... some factual fiction, and fictional fact, too ;).. just like ya hear in a B&T, or a coffee shop.. gotta filter info from those places too.

And John R is right.. it's just the internet.. a lot of folks opinions and myths.. yes, Good Acurate Schtuff too.. you have to seperate the wheat from the chaff.. but, as has been said, a lot of this has to be learned, up close and personal, and on your own. John, told me about his "credibility factor" scale, at the Gillette show.. I like that, makes sense too.. meybe he will post on that...

I would wager that the small degree of accountability that comes with having to sign your name to your statements would lead to a less threatening environment. Lurkers would be more apt to join in.
.

I think the accountability thing is BS. Only in those idiotic times of flaming threads do i wish the person was standing in front of another when the offenses are typed out.
As far as info like i said it is up to the user to beware.The only way to really learn anything is by doing it urself anyways.
Lurkers Lurk.They obviously don't wish to add.Boy what a surprise.
A bassman is keeping a secret.I have many friends who read the boards they think I'm nuts.I'm from the skool where u had to earn ur stripes.But I got diarrhea of the mouth or keyboard.
Joe I used to like u.I have shopped at ur INTERNET store.An used to read ur articles religiously.U have Changed lately.Almost as if someone else is posting on ur computr.Whats the deal??
Maybe its me.I love this thing.I enjoy the back an forth.Like I had with Manzi.Where's he at when u need him.Sea Dangles is sorta a worthy opponent but Mentally inept, an still no match for the NIB.:D
He an Spence Hit it off well though.:err:

This is an interesting thread. For the moment, I'm going to stay out of it other then to answer the initial question.

Somewhat obviously, a forum where we had to use our real names wouldn't really bother me. Not only do I use my real name but everyone knows where to find me...

As long as I can remember though, since I've been online, I rarely use my real first name. And that's going back almost 2 decades. Anonymity on the Internet is more tradition then anything else, in many cases.

I basically agree with NIB. I don't get the difference between someone reading my post, and them saying Charlie M is a doofus or if I posted under another name and they thought I was a doofus. I would still be a doofus. Do whats right cause its right, not cause the internet might think you just start e-wars or you kiss ass looking for acceptance or to build up your e-resume.

And no one on the internet is anonymous.

Actually, now that I know...I can tell :hee: :bl2:

-spence

What the hell are you talking about Iowa boy?...

Besides, no one listens to spence, Iowa hasnt been oceanfront for 65Million years......

Accountability is what you make of it, I offer advice up, take it or leave it.... you tend to figure out who has 'water cred' and who doesnt....

Maybe its me.I love this thing.I enjoy the back an forth.Like I had with Manzi.Where's he at when u need him.Sea Dangles is sorta a worthy opponent but Mentally inept, an still no match for the NIB.:D
He an Spence Hit it off well though.:err:


Hahaha. We need to have a "Celebrity Fight Night" between Dangles and NIB. Maybe a live chatroom format. :buds:

I am the Greatest.
Float like a butterfly
Sting like a bee
Nobody does it like the N-I-B
:tm:
Where's that gorilla??

Quote NIB "Joe I used to like u.I have shopped at ur INTERNET store.An used to read ur articles religiously.U have Changed lately.Almost as if someone else is posting on ur computr.Whats the deal??"
Fear not NIB - this is as close to the edge as I'll go....I should just get a Corvette and a girlfriend

Any info. I give is generally so useless, I wouldn't want anyone to know my real name:laugha:

Fear not NIB - this is as close to the edge as I'll go....I should just get a Corvette and a girlfriend


Well I hope Not I Still consider u a asset to this forum.
Even thou I think sometimes post when ur meds ware off.:D

But the pills make me tired....:spin:

What John said. Don't believe what you read online unless you know the author, don't take anything too seriously As far as screen names, Back Beach in my real first and last name. My parents are Rocky and Sandy.
And I suppose your mothers maiden name was roads?:rollem:

Meds? :hidin:


When all is said and done <{{{<< this is just plain fun :hihi:

I guess about 9 years ago when I took the name Saltheart for fishing sites , everyone was signing up with cool internet names. I had friends who called me Saltheart do to all the sailing I did as early as 1983 so i also used it as my internet fishing name. After almost a decade , people know who I am so there's no hiding behind a neame.

I guess about 9 years ago when I took the name Saltheart for fishing sites , everyone was signing up with cool internet names. I had friends who called me Saltheart do to all the sailing I did as early as 1983 so i also used it as my internet fishing name. After almost a decade , people know who I am so there's no hiding behind a neame.

That is interesting because if you remember back to the day when a lot of us first started to meet online (WMI) a lot of the "Joe Q" names were sucked up, Mike P, Dave S, Mike S, John R (go figure), etc... As we were known by these names a lot of 'em just stuck and we often used the same names on multiple sites as that was what were were known by... So for some, these annonymous names were used because even then some of the "Joe Q"s were already taken... I think there was a Mike W back then too...

Back when John, Saltheart, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and the rest of us "originals" stumbled on that WMI site, misinformation used to bother me a lot more than it does now. Led to some nasty flame wars.

Now, I figure, why bother. Unless someone's blathering BS will get a reader hurt or worse, I just figure, let them find out for themselves--it ain't worth it. Most of the time anyway. Sometimes I still yield to temptation :devil:

" Experience is the greatest teacher" I think much of the misinformation that does get passed comes from well meaning but inexperienced newbies. I have seen on another site where almost everynew member seems to be new to the surf game. They will ask for help and its usually supplied by a guy whom has been fishing the beach for 4 years and his biggest fish is a 'fat' 33"er. I've been fishing the surf since the mid-seventies and still learn every time I go out. I will offer advice if I am 100% sure or if it just an opinion. I'm always mindful of the adage 'what works well for me just might get you killed'.I'm Tony and crow comes from my last name.

I must admit that NIB has a sort of grout and trowel intellect that I find refreshing,probably the result of an idle mind.Do you whistle a lot NIB?Judging from my personal experience I think Joe probably just got some good bud.

Thats it.?
Ur a regular Inspector Clueso
U looked at my profile an came up with that beauty.
Ha Ha HA.
U know what we call C Dangles.
It's the little string connected to a tampon.
Joe BUD No way.
He's way too bland.Man.
I wanted to Be Tony G but some Old Man already had it.I just followed over wit NIB as I spread the love.

I just followed over wit NIB as I spread the love.
And I'm sure the National Industries for the Blind appreciates your care and support.

-spence

I agree with Mike P. we used to jump on the misinformation. Then there was so much of it by so many different people and it very often ends up in a war. Add that to us mellowing out a lot and now , a lot gets by.

The newbies giving mis info is a two part problem. Some newbies think they know it all after one trip to the shore with their father. That type is a pain in the Butt and most eventually get kicked out of serious fishing sites like this and end up experts within a small group of other newby heavy sites. Patrick was a big hero on one site despite knowing little because everyone else there knew absolutely nothing! :)

Some think that they might actaully know something unique and are honestly trying to be helpful to other total beginners. . Once they realize there are people around with 30 , 40 , 50 years under their belt , I think they tend to read more and post misinformation less and eventually become good contributors.

Anyway , user beware!! Don't ever risk life and limb on internet info.

I thought the fake name was the way to go...never crossed my mind to use my real name on the interblab...Slingah is because all I used to do was sling eels...didnt see anyone else with the name so I used it.
Its weird when someone calls me Slingah...dont really like it. My real name is Matt......but JohnR you can call me Don:tooth:

:faga:

[QUOTE=Saltheart]I Patrick was a big hero on one site despite knowing little because everyone else there knew absolutely nothing! :)

QUOTE]

He was my favorite. Tuna fishing from the banks of the canal and his walking the dog technique were two of my favorite topics.

[QUOTE=Saltheart]I Patrick was a big hero on one site despite knowing little because everyone else there knew absolutely nothing! :)

QUOTE]

He was my favorite. Tuna fishing from the banks of the canal and his walking the dog technique were two of my favorite topics.

He just had a brief but spectacular comeback stint over on SOL. He went down in flames again, and I'm really not sure why :huh:

I think you'd be surprised at how many of the old school living legends lurk the forums. Some say that they learn a thing or two new. Some say that they can pick out the young-uns no prob. All those who sit and listen do so in anonyminity because they don't want to get "lectured" by someone who A: they don't know and B: someone who's full of it. I'm grateful to those who have joined us and who have given their knowledge. Just remember that when someone says something and you don't agree, there's a couple of reasons that you don't agree. You may be thinking in absolutes, and there are NONE in the surf. And you may NOT have experienced the total truth of that subject. What ever it is,it is in most bad form to shout LIAR at another man. It insults him to the core and disgusts those listening in. And that is where I see most Flame Wars coming from. Just some things to think about..

I started at the WMI site in its later days. Most people there used their name and last initial so I did the same. (Plus the fact that I apparently have no imagination.) ;) :hidin:


[QUOTE=Crow I have seen on another site where almost everynew member seems to be new to the surf game. They will ask for help and its usually supplied by a guy whom has been fishing the beach for 4 years and his biggest fish is a 'fat' 33"er. [/QUOTE]

A short while ago I saw a post on another site where a guy said he caught his first bass ever after 2 or 3 years or so of trying. A few weeks later I saw him posting fishing advice. :rollem: :spin:

A short while ago I saw a post on another site where a guy said he caught his first bass ever after 2 or 3 years or so of trying. A few weeks later I saw him posting fishing advice. :rollem: :spin:

I've seen them go from asking questions followed by rejecting sound advice, then complaining for years that they can't catch a keeper and then to being Forum Leaders and Moderators. On the Internet ANYTHING is possible :musc:John, told me about his "credibility factor" scale, at the Gillette show.. I like that, makes sense too.. meybe he will post on that...

I rate things from 1 to 5, Five being very very rare and usually acompanied with a tablet of stone where you can see the chisel marks... There are many more ones than fives....

Somebody already had Chris L so I just used my initials.

I think you'd be surprised at how many of the old school living legends lurk the forums. Some say that they learn a thing or two new. Some say that they can pick out the young-uns no prob. All those who sit and listen do so in anonyminity because they don't want to get "lectured" by someone who A: they don't know and B: someone who's full of it. I'm grateful to those who have joined us and who have given their knowledge. Just remember that when someone says something and you don't agree, there's a couple of reasons that you don't agree. You may be thinking in absolutes, and there are NONE in the surf. And you may NOT have experienced the total truth of that subject. What ever it is,it is in most bad form to shout LIAR at another man. It insults him to the core and disgusts those listening in. And that is where I see most Flame Wars coming from. Just some things to think about..

:realmad: Thats it man :skulz: I will slap you with a herring and challenge you to a plug swimming trading duel :boots:

:realmad: Thats it man :skulz: I will slap you with a herring and challenge you to a plug swimming trading duel :boots:
:shocked: Curiously, I think I'd like that:buds:

Credibility and fishing? For every piece of advice given, there are thousands of unknowns and exceptions, there are variables and countless opinions.very rarely are all the facts known and the personality of the question truly understood.It is the users descretion that will accomplish sucsess and gain knowledge.It is time on the water or in the surf that will gain expierience and skill.Real names and "hiding"behind user names? This is ludicrous.Would you know who I was if my call sign was BobC anymore than now, I doubt it.I feel that information obtained through forums is soley at the descretion of the person taking it. I also feel that people have the right to debate and voice their opinion on any topic, and people have the right to disagree with that opinion. To become angered and threating is both unintelligable and immature.Unless you post with your picture and full name and adress are not you also maintaining a degree of anonimity? I've only been striper fishing for 8 years, I've learned a great deal from both the good info and bad info on this site and publications, I thank both greatly.I try only to give good info, but also realize the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

For every piece of advice given, there are thousands of unknowns and exceptions, there are variables and countless opinions.very rarely are all the facts known and the personality of the question truly understood.

Nuff said. This sentence could be applied to MANY threads on fishing boards.

Ya but it's pretty hard to take the poster seriously with that little creepy thing in the corner.:err:

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Great post

Certainly everyone knows who I am, I use the name "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&" because its a nickname given to me by Tim Coleman from the Fisherman. The name means alot to me because of the fact that Tim planted it on me. Acually most of my friends call me by that name all the time. So, It was long before the Internet that I had that name. But for the Record ...Bill Nolan is what I was born with. It is interesting to see where everyone gets there "name" All the fisherman I know have a nickname.

I guess I might be an internet "Newbie" compared to some. I first logged on via AOL in June 1996 with the screen name "Keeper1" which I still have. I had only been (serious) striper fishing for about 3 years at that point and had never actually caught a keeper (36" in MA at that time). In any case, through many different ISPs, chatrooms, message boards, my username and email name had always been some variation of "keeper". I've been to message board and chatroom "meets" all over the US and one in Canada, and "keeper" was always a catchy, easy-to-remember name for people to call me by.
When I recently found this board, I thought I would be clever and change it up by using this Dumb-Ass scientific name I'm saddled with now. Every time I log on, I lament the fact that I chose it. If I could change it, I would.
I never give suf fishing advice because I'm a novice. I may have chimed in on a few boating topics, as I have a little bit of experience in that area. I'm always willing to debate politics, religion, or anything else that stirs people's passion, but I try to never say anything in print that I wouldn't say to someone's face.
Having a "real name requirement" would be totally useless. Would 2 forms of picture ID be required to register? Get a clue. I agree with whomever it was that said posting one's full, real name is not prudent. With all the phishing (no pun intended) and ID theft scams going on these days, it's probably wise to keep personal info out of public view.

Steve G.
MA

I guess I might be an internet "Newbie" compared to some. I first logged on via AOL in June 1996 with the screen name "Keeper1" which I still have. I had only been (serious) striper fishing for about 3 years at that point and had never actually caught a keeper (36" in MA at that time). In any case, through many different ISPs, chatrooms, message boards, my username and email name had always been some variation of "keeper". I've been to message board and chatroom "meets" all over the US and one in Canada, and "keeper" was always a catchy, easy-to-remember name for people to call me by.
When I recently found this board, I thought I would be clever and change it up by using this Dumb-Ass scientific name I'm saddled with now. Every time I log on, I lament the fact that I chose it. If I could change it, I would.
I never give suf fishing advice because I'm a novice. I may have chimed in on a few boating topics, as I have a little bit of experience in that area. I'm always willing to debate politics, religion, or anything else that stirs people's passion, but I try to never say anything in print that I wouldn't say to someone's face.
Having a "real name requirement" would be totally useless. Would 2 forms of picture ID be required to register? Get a clue. I agree with whomever it was that said posting one's full, real name is not prudent. With all the phishing (no pun intended) and ID theft scams going on these days, it's probably wise to keep personal info out of public view.

Steve G.
MA

You could shorten it to Moron :usd:

Seriously.....good post Steve :uhuh:

You could shorten it to Moron :usd: :uhuh:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
:rotf3:
Like I haven't heard THAT one a thousand times!
:bl2:
Yeah yeah yeah...
I've heard 'em all..
Moronic Sackless, etc etc etc...

Serves me RIGHT
for choosing such a STUPID name in the first place!
What was I THINKING ?!?!?!
:bc: :hs: :spin: :wall: :bsod:

I was thinking of changing my name to "Eel Bob"

Here is some more useless advice: Don't take wooden nickles

Very interesting thread...What never ceases to amaze me,is that on the internet,some people become legends in their in own mind.Some come off as prima donna wanna be know it alls.Sitting in front of a computer screen they have suddenly grown brass bowling balls and their word is it,the gospel,lol. Yet it in real life they are blathering fools..They’ll post,on different message boards,different answers to the same question.You gotta love it. As was said earlier,take whatever is posted on the internet in regard to anything,with a grain of salt…..


Interesting post.
It is so easy to sit behind the tire hub an make blind accusations.If ur gonna thro daggers.Why don't u belly up gro some balls of ur own an point out the internet legends that u speak of so they can respond..
People come here with questions.I think for the most part they get some good advice.Comments like urs will just have folks sitting on there hands wondering if it was they who perhaps made the awfull crime of trying to be nice. Be it right or wrong usually there are many answers to choose from.I think in the end the reader gets what they came for.Lots of the folks here know who I am I have gone many miles out of my way so we can put a face to the name.As have alot of others.There is credibility here if u look. Negativity is more lame, an pretty much undermines what the site is all about.One big community with a common interest.Sharing what they know.An having fun..

I guess I might be an internet "Newbie" compared to some. I first logged on via AOL in June 1996 with the screen name "Keeper1" which I still have. I had only been (serious) striper fishing for about 3 years at that point and had never actually caught a keeper (36" in MA at that time). In any case, through many different ISPs, chatrooms, message boards, my username and email name had always been some variation of "keeper". I've been to message board and chatroom "meets" all over the US and one in Canada, and "keeper" was always a catchy, easy-to-remember name for people to call me by.
When I recently found this board, I thought I would be clever and change it up by using this Dumb-Ass scientific name I'm saddled with now. Every time I log on, I lament the fact that I chose it. If I could change it, I would.
I never give suf fishing advice because I'm a novice. I may have chimed in on a few boating topics, as I have a little bit of experience in that area. I'm always willing to debate politics, religion, or anything else that stirs people's passion, but I try to never say anything in print that I wouldn't say to someone's face.
Having a "real name requirement" would be totally useless. Would 2 forms of picture ID be required to register? Get a clue. I agree with whomever it was that said posting one's full, real name is not prudent. With all the phishing (no pun intended) and ID theft scams going on these days, it's probably wise to keep personal info out of public view.

Steve G.
MA

I don't use my real name because of the same issues w/theft etc. Maybe I'm a little paranoid, but thats how I feel. With regard to not giving advice because you feel less experienced, that's a mistake. I have fished my entire life, and am always happy to listen to someone's observations, experienced or not. Once you place yourself on a pedestal, the blinders can sometimes cause you to miss something. You can always interpret the information you receive regardless of who the messenger is and make it useful. It's like a computer, sometimes you hit the delete key, sometimes you place it in the striper file for later use.

I use the name Kippy as that was my grandfather's nickname and he enjoyed fishing very much. He is no longer here but I know he would be proud that I have the same passion for the sport. I even use his old penn senator 113H to this day.

Interesting post.
It is so easy to sit behind the tire hub an make blind accusations.If ur gonna thro daggers.Why don't u belly up gro some balls of ur own an point out the internet legends that u speak of so they can respond..
People come here with questions.I think for the most part they get some good advice.Comments like urs will just have folks sitting on there hands wondering if it was they who perhaps made the awfull crime of trying to be nice. Be it right or wrong usually there are many answers to choose from.I think in the end the reader gets what they came for.Lots of the folks here know who I am I have gone many miles out of my way so we can put a face to the name.As have alot of others.There is credibility here if u look. Negativity is more lame, an pretty much undermines what the site is all about.One big community with a common interest.Sharing what they know.An having fun..
For some reason NIB took this personally;but if the shoe fits...:angel:

Perhaps i did take it personally as I did fool around with NIB in the third person(I love that sh!t)Perhaps I am a legend in My own mind.A friend of mine once told me I wanna live in ur world.As far as i'm concerned its the best place to be.Most times I'm just having fun..:tm:
My brand of humor might not appeal to everybody.I notice what goes on here.I obviously don't give a rats ass what anybody else thinks.I get the daggers all the time.It don't bother me at all.I can respect if someone has a problem with me if they come out an say it.Beating around the bush is lame.An perhaps thats why I took it so seriously.I honestly believe I help people out.So tell me what is so bad.Sometimes different opinions are voiced I think thats a good thing.Would u have more fun if i stopped posting. I can do that also.Poof.I am now the internet wannabe formaly known as The NIB.I don't really need this crap.U can have the Strike Kings of he world give ya advice.Good Luck.

Maybe NIB really is Manzi:cputin:

NIBs is cool :hihi:

I can't give up my real name on here. I think some people on this site have me on thier "hit list". :rtfm: But i can't understand why i would be on such a list :hihi:

Nah, my nickname is Skip so its close enough to be my real name. I'm not totally hiding myself :tooth: