Wednesday night was a little wacked the bite didn't start untill just after midnight and majority of the fish were under 16", third stop of the early early morning revealed squeteague rather on the "short" side of what i am used to/remember seeing all were 18" and fat.

Thursday night was a silent one with me being home in bed by 2:30am and with a bloody right hand from a launched danny.

Friday night was different. Didn't even get to wet a line and i took a beating. Getting slapped in the face with a blackjack isn't something that feels all that good... Lucky for me all i got was a black eye but I lost my gear... Lesson learned.....

Wednesday night was a little wacked the bite didn't start untill just after midnight and majority of the fish were under 16", third stop of the early early morning revealed squeteague rather on the "short" side of what i am used to/remember seeing all were 18" and fat.

Thursday night was a silent one with me being home in bed by 2:30am and with a bloody right hand from a launched danny.

Friday night was different. Didn't even get to wet a line and i took a beating. Getting slapped in the face with a blackjack isn't something that feels all that good... Lucky for me all i got was a black eye but I lost my gear... Lesson learned.....
whats up leptar??? did you get mugged while fishing???that last line does not sound good..

Ya, what did happen? Blackjacks are not fishing equipemnt. Hope your O.K.

Black eyes are fun.. heh.. so what happend? last part of that doesn't sound too good

You have to tell us more. Sounds rotten...hope you`re ok.


Checked out your bandsaw web posting :err: Damn thats nasty :poke:

Ya Friday night did not go too well, 12 or so years of many solo night fishing outings and never an issue. Some of the folks i have fished along side were not the typical types many would fish next to but never had any problems, in fact, some of the best nights were those. Friday night/Saturday morning was a different one. Between 12:45am and 1am, a young teenager who was overly curious with my rod and reel greeted me. He grabbed it, started fooling around I asked him to put it back, and he was laughing and slurring. I grabbed it off him and he punched me in the chest. I pushed him back and told him to F' off... put the rod back in my truck and another kid jumped on my back. I tossed him to the ground and when i was finished with him another teen flipped his wrist and what is stupid was i knew what he had, I had time to react but stood there like a moron. So across the face i get whacked with a blackjack and they made off with my tica dolphin 10' saltiga blast 4500 my large skinz bag and my small canyon bag along with my lunch cooler.

For me it was rather embarrassing and very humiliating, usually i carry my neck knife but that was at home, as i left work and probably a good thing in a weird way as I probably would have killed them. Did not talk about it as i had a few friends check the local shops and keep an eye out. There was a moment where i had thought about dumping majority of my gear. After a some thought, i came to deciding not to let this incident discourage me but to make me smarter and safer.

I am ok other then some bruising around my eye and some broken capillaries but it could have been worse... another 1/4" and it would have hit my eye or it could have been a knife or a gun.

Thats horrible Leptar.... sorry for your pain. You say you`re ok but just like a car accident its traumatic.

If I was you I would carry a billy about three feet long.... it sucks but looked what happened to you.

Be strong and don`t let it effect your future trips if you can.

Actually I would sacrifice my rod in that situation....use it to defend yourself....would make a very handy and lengthy weapon.


What general area were you fishing?

Mike

Fog land beach to be exact and i would have used my rod in a heart beat but it was in the back of my CR-V and the chit hit the fan so fast...
I wouldn't say traumatized but yes it will affect my approach in the future... After the WTF just happened set in, I started to think alot less about my interests and more about my family, especially my son.

Sorry to hear about this - get us a description of the stuff to keep an eye open for you. And perhaps now time to employ the buddy system...

One of the worst parts about fishing gear theft is the way it kind of ruins fishing for a while since you of course think of that incident anytime you go fishing...

It definitely takes time to get over something like that and to get back to enjoying your time on the water. It ruins your trust in people too.

Sorry to hear about the loss and it's good to hear you are ok.

glad your okay leptar...your right it could have been worse..for all...
damn punks....where is fogland??? in MA.?

I think that would rattle anyone. Be thankful you're not worse off, if they were f'ed up who knows where it could have gone.

Anytime you want to fish Fogland give me a shout...I'm right up the road. The notion that this happened in my backyard is more than a little disturbing.

Did you notify the police?

-spence

call the cops...they usually know the bad apples

Sorry to hear of your incident leptar.Glad you're ok.
Seems I've been hearing/reading more and more on this subject lately.Time of year?We're out there more now?Or just more brazen individuals?
Makes me think twice when I want to hit the sand at nite-solo.
Oh yeah-I do carry a Gerber Hunter on my belt-always.

No, I didn't call the police... I wasn't thinking properly....


Tica Dolphin 10' with a Saltiga Blast 4500 PP50

Aquaskinz bag large with wood inside along with tin

Canyon bag small with gear.. a split of wood and you can't get anymore plastic...

An artic zone lunch cooler yellow with 4 - 4oz packages of jerky hut jerky.

As far as what was in the bags... Its all replaceable with time i guess... some easier then others... On Monday i took out my last 2 woolworth bought 7" redfins and stuck them in the skinz bag right on the side of my retro-fited cooper and 4 fixter pencils. The rest will be replaced slowly.

Notify the police, they would want to know this happened.

-spence

Man that is just insane, sorry to hear about that. Id defidently let the police know about it tho.

A damn shame. Knife on a belt most times never gets off the belt I think in situations like that.

A good stout walking staff you can make yourself from an oak sapling is very intimidating and if necessary very destructive plus it keeps knives at bay very easily with a little practice.

Again....sorry for your bad experience....wish I could have been there to assist in applying a solid thumping :uhuh:

Sorry to hear, I always want to buy an Ugly Billy to take when I go alone. I really like the buddy system but I also hate to wait for others to show or either just get blown off.. I am glad you are ok.

I think we could all get together and each send you a plug .

Drunken teens hanging at a beach on Friday night? Police probably know which H.S they are from and the teens will probably go back to the spot soon.

Man, I feel for you. I think about this and my friends do also. We carry a little something more than a gerber on our person. Punks be forewarned try this on the wrong person and your going down. We're licensed and in the know.
I teach the bluz every now and then and add some blacks!

I'm no small guy, but I really don't need an @$$ kickin ,... I'm thinking pepper spray may be my new fishing partner when I am alone...

I'm no small guy, but I really don't need an @$$ kickin ,... I'm thinking pepper spray may be my new fishing partner when I am alone...
good thinking....im doin the same

Just don't get the pepper spay on your lures...

Leptar - I have a few nice plugs I'd like to give you. PM me your address or I can meet you some afternoon as I work in Newport...

LEPTAR,
SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR BAD EXPERIENCE...THEY WILL GET THERE DAY

i'M IN WITH JOHN..PM YOUR ADDRESS AND I'LL SEND YOU A CARE PACKAGE TO GET YOU UP AND GOING.

....and now you know another reason this old bastard carries a belt gaff. A short handled gaff can be a very intimidating weapon. Especially if you have to deal with some nitwits like these guys. I'm tellin' ya, maybe it's the old Nam Vet in me but if I run into a situation like this I'll put the ol' gaff to 'em in short order. I'm way to old to be fighting clean.

LEPTAR,
SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR BAD EXPERIENCE...THEY WILL GET THERE DAY

i'M IN WITH JOHN..PM YOUR ADDRESS AND I'LL SEND YOU A CARE PACKAGE TO GET YOU UP AND GOING.


I've got a re-built Okuma VS. It ain't great, but if you need it, It's yours. Let me know.

....Snipped...I'm way to old to be fighting clean.


Too smart, more than likely.

Pepper spray is awesome....I have one of those ugly billy's that I keep in my truck. Maybe I'll become closer with that on night trips. I'd hate to think you have to start carrying anything more substantial. One thing with OC is when you spray it even if your upwind your going to get some blow back. So if you buy some I would suggest spraying it and seeing what it is like so you don't become disabled and a bigger target for anyone coming after you after you spray them. I have had it sprayed on me and been involved in it being sprayed numerous times and it can really get to you. Don't rub you eyes.... ever, even if no ones around to help you just put up with the pain. Boy thinking about leptar misfortune gives real cause for concern.

Leptar, sorry to hear about this BS you had to go through. There are alot of dangers out there for those of us who like to jump around on the rocks at night but dealing with little punks shouldn't be one of them. None of us should have to worry about that. I'm a local high school teacher and know teachers from a bunch of schools. I'll ask them to keep their ears open. If these kids are high schoolers then chances are this story will be all over the school quick. These kind of kids like to brag about cowardly stuff like that so hopefully something surfaces. There is nothing I would enjoy more than getting these little punks busted. It's kids like that which give all young kids a bad rap.

Leptar, sorry to hear of your hear of your rough outing. I hope your eye gets better soon... It could have been alot worse. I am sure fishing will not be the same with you for a while.

Wow that sucks. Makes you think twice about going fishing alone. This is a long shot for catchin the bastards, but try Myspace, search for the high school and just start looking at profiles. My friend got his lacrosse stuff stolen and that's how they caught the kid. You may want to get a few buddies and go to the spot and just steak it out for a few weekends and see if there's any other activity, and this time arm yourself, just in case then call the cops if you see anything happening.

1st report to police

secondly: be more aware, go with a buddy if you can, and carry 3 ft billy or aluminum bat

thirdly: batter up


If you fish Mass. at all PM me and we`ll hook up.

Feel better,
Mike

Swimmer. I have been sprayed before also. I had to, to carry it. Not fun stuff to be on the receiving end. I may just get a holder for my wading belt and slip it in. I also am gonna start carrying my hand gaff.

PM me your address and I will send you a little something

dumb question , where is fog land?

dumb question , where is fog land?

Tiverton, RI. Nice place, only been once but i remember catchin a ton of fish.

Again I hope you catch the prick that took your stuff.

all OF TIVERTOWN SHOULD BE TOLD

SORRY THAT HAPPENED LEPTAR

I just want to say thank you to everyone for the support, it is greatly appreciated... Its weird how I feel now, the kindness and generosity that many of you have expressed to me has giving the strength (I could not think of another word to describe it) needed to push back that night and look onwards to tomorrow. Words will never truly express how i feel, Again Thank You.

Sincerely,
Paul

boat motor insurance is warranted now....

just a thought...now that ya feel good again

you don't want to repeat the experience....:rolleyes:

Somehow I missed this thread but all I can say is WOW!!!

All I can say is I hope they fall off a rock and die a very painful lingering death.

First off I am glad you are ok. Things could have been worse. It does suk that there are people out there like that. The pepper spray is a good idea. Another idea is a can of bear repellent. (basically a larger can of the pepper spray that will spray further) Makes me think twice about all the late night forays by myself and even more so about leaving my other friend in the safe. PM me your address and I'll see what I can come up with for you.

What goes around, comes around Basswipe! They will get theirs!

The odd thing is that I wouldn't think something like that would happen around here. I wouldn't ever think of it actually. Maybe down in NJ or NYC...but not up here.

Maybe we should all get together the next couple weekend nights, split up and act like rich, vulnerable surfcasters, donned in 14k gold Van Staals, Platinum 10' surf rods and silver chains with 6" Striped Bass medallions hanging off them. I bet we could find them, or they could find us, then we could go for a 'swim'.

Seriously, does Fog Land draw any crowds or was this just random?

Fogland has always been a HOTSPOT for teenage party-goers...I'm surprised it happened this early in the school year though, normally it's more toward the end of the school year that you will find teenagers there most weekends...With the long entrance road, they have plenty of time to identify the police vehicles and hide any alcohol or drugs and just get asked to leave instead of being arrested. Surprisingly enough, the police DO make frequent visits to this area...however, with it being SO early in the out-door party season....they probably haven't included it in their "rounds" yet.

Sorry to hear about all this though, I fished that place once :faga: and know how it can be...You must have been right out front before the grass begins, that's normally where the punks do their hangin. Be careful with your other spot at the bend in the road, they ALSO party there on weekend nights...fortunately the local residents are closer to the activity so it doesn't get far.......police get called if it gets even close to loud. There's a good chance I'll be down in that area tomorrow night,,,, I'll look for any discarded evidence...they may have tossed the bags not knowing their worth....

I'd a loss my head if some kid grabbed my stick....:lossinit: ...

Leptar, just wanted to say sorry to hear about what happened...I'm new to the site and for the most part, the sport...looks like you've gotten some great advice, some of which i'm going to put to work myself. Fortunately, I've also got the buddy system working...thanks J.Sylvester...

Seriously, does Fog Land draw any crowds or was this just random?
More like the wrong place at the wrong time.

Too bad it wasn't one of those nights where the fog is so thick you can't see your feet. Lure them onto the rocks and they'd get lost :)

I wouldn't worry about fishing most places in RI...sure some random stuff happens but at night it's usually pretty quiet...and to be honest it can be creepy enough alone on the beach some nights :hee:

-spence

Sorry to hear about your fisfortune but glad to hear your ok. Gives me something else to think about. I fish alone 95% of the time and the thought of slipping on a rock and breaking a bone (even with korkers) or getting swept away by a rogue wave lingered in the back of the mind, that or having my vehicle broken into or vandalized. Now this is something else to consider. I may have to give the pepper spray some consideration, I know I wouldn't give up my stuff without a fight. That being said it's a given these hoodlums are local and this is one of their hangouts. Some recon around the same time and place of said incidence should be done to locate said PMF's, get the items back and let them know that fisherman won't stand for this crap.

Leptar,

PM me we'd be willing to help you replace some of your lost goods. You choose the colors.

1 Danny
1 Popper
1 3 oz needle
1 Sleepwalker Spook

Just something to think about if people plan on purchasing cans of peppar spray. Many of the peppar spray products have metal parts, and you know what the salt likes to do with most metals...

I've got one daughter at 4yrs, and one son at 1yrs, the hand galf option is looking pretty good right now. I ALWAYS carry a blade on my chest or hip, but maybe something a little longer and intimidating might be the ticket.

The only problem is whatever you decide to use, MAKE SURE it doesn't get away from ya; or the other side will most likely want to use it back on you...:smash:

Glad you are ok, that is what is most important. The lingering thoughts as you fish the next couple of weeks will pass.

Leptar,

PM me we'd be willing to help you replace some of your lost goods. You choose the colors.

1 Danny
1 Popper
1 3 oz needle
1 Sleepwalker Spook
Yup, give him one of our new swimmers too, Dave.

Sorry to hear about what u had to go thru, could happen to any one of us, we should all be more careful after hearing this.

OK and 1 new swimmer

Pepper spray nuthin.....last year, I started carrying my .38 chief special again when alone on the canal. Had a run in 2 years back that made me think!

Blackjacks are nuthin to take lightly, as you know! There are more morons out there lately! :behead:

Pepper spray nuthin.....last year, I started carrying my .38 chief special again when alone on the canal. Had a run in 2 years back that made me think!

Blackjacks are nuthin to take lightly, as you know! There are more morons out there lately! :behead:


Yep, the bore looks huge when on the wrong end.

What's the law in MASS? I have a license to carry in RI but not in mass. I believe I need a Mass license to carry a handgun in State. Anyone know?

I'm sorry that you were attacked by some dumb kids. It's a great relief that you didn't get hurt more than what you have described. Things definitely could have turned out for the worst.

I think this has been covered in another post but wasn't the concensus that the canal and areas managed under the US Army Corps of Engineers considered Federal property? I definitely know the areas around the MMA is restricted so don't even try it. I do support CCW but don't want to see anyone made into more fuel for the anti's when it comes to 'potentially restricted' areas.

Don't ask-don't tell works, but there might be that time when you're reaching for the pliers and you find yourself exposing. I'd think twice about it myself and would hate for anyone to be made an example of.

Does anyone have the 'real' information about this?

I never go fishing without my fillet knife, and always have a heavy duty torque wrench and hatchet under my drivers seat...

thankfully, they have only been used to serve the purpose they were designed for..

best of luck finding those punks :mad:

What's the law in MASS? I have a license to carry in RI but not in mass. I believe I need a Mass license to carry a handgun in State. Anyone know?


I am in just the opposite scenario. I have one in MA. but not RI. I believe you can apply for a non resident permit for MA without a lot of problems since you have one in RI. It will cost you 100 bux for it and will have to be renewed every year I believe. FWW can probably elaborate on this better than I. My permit went from 25 to 100 but is good for 6 years now.

Sorry you ran into somehting like this. Hope they find the bastids.

glad you're alright. fish with a bud or be armed and alert- better yet both. pm me your addy i have something for you.

. FWW can probably elaborate on this better than I. My permit went from 25 to 100 but is good for 6 years now.

who is FWW ..... fast wood willy? :huh:
or is that an acronym for a S-B ghost.
:wavey: miss ya BEN ......... ya slacka...:doh: