How many of you out there actively look for conditions where you can work the suds?

What do you consider optimal conditions?

How do you stay safe?

there are a handful of places I fish that at the right wind and tides, the white water makes up perfectly adn the fishing is great. These spots are not dangerous if you are familar with them, but I usually take a bunch of waves down the waders, over my head and get soaked. its worth it

white water and bass go together. Optimal conditions? It's hard to explain, each location is different , but when I see everything right I know the fish will be there. Staying safe. Waders , felt soles, a good water proof top with twobelts and a little common sense.

Give me the leading edge of a big Nor'easter, BIG water, not too much wind. I'm getting wood just thinking about it. I tend to be conservative in big water. One of the reasons I feel LONG casts are highly under rated.

Do you find more action on the edge of the white water, or do you get most of your hits right in the middle of all of the turbulence?


PS -- are these pictures being displayed OK?

I like the slop, right behind where they break.. Pics don't show.

Give me a Huge Bright moon, Flat calm seas, No wind, 70 degree water temps....and a live eel , toss in a few rocks...and water clear enough to drink...:laugha: :tooth:

Champaigne water...........

Both. No pic's

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& brings the ProJo with him when his conditions are bright.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&- do you fish the pocket or the cut?

Steve "Van Stall" McKenna

The Kid, The corners, The cut, the gut, the rut, The stump, the bump:tooth: ....

Hey Steve , do we sometimes work the pocket in the alley? or is the "Boneyard" the prefrence,, Hey "its good but very boney here"... What is a "pick" What is a "brace".....Caught some "colts" in that sluicway, any "Bull bass" around? which way is east? how come that ledge sticks out like that? who lives there?

where is the "Halocline"? "you bet your life they do" "you heard me" My line broke with the report of a 22caliber.....How can we move around the rocks with cat like swiftness?? Do you still fish a coffee Grinder?:bounce: :bounce:

A "50" looks as big as a small man....... "That fish has some shoulders on it"

The water washed white around the second point falling away into the hole on the downtide pocket, then as the tide rushed back up and clashed with the reef, the lineside could be seen in the backeddy slurping down copepods, I cast my offering again and again and let is slide this way and that wondering why this so and so offereing was not engulfed by the mamouth cow, I reached into my shoulder bag and pulled out a plug I fet certain she would take, after clipping it on my line , I sent it seaward to do my bidding on this starry night, letting the plug drum in the current, I felt the take of the moby hefty bass as she engulfed plug, Ater she felt the sting of the trebbles, she pouted and headed for the bottom, rubbing her massive jaw along the craggy bottom trying to free herself of the bothersome piece of plastic, tourqing the plug this way and that, I held my ground, line peeling off in a paste now in a last desparate attemt at freedom , I knew she was now mine, the massive figure now came in like lump, My prize was now at my feet, I placed my pipe in my mouth and took a long slow drag, the game was now over"

:bgi:

Oh man...One of those days.......Fishing is slow I guess:usd:

Steve"Van Stall" McKenna the fourth removed.... What do you like to send seaward to do your bidding.....

So, are we heading east tonight?? or staying home and watching re-runs.....:bo:



On a serious note, I like the edges of the whitewater but, like Steve said, it really depends on the spot for me, some places dont fish well in a heavy sea, some do, some fish better with calm conditions some heat up in a whitewashed state...lots of variables. "Clammer" took me to a spot that is only good when its rough and sure enough the fish were there, Went back on calm conditions and did not get a hit. There is a point for me when there is "to much" of a good thing also. The bottom line is learn your spots !

Mike- that's a little too rough for my liking.

Yup, there is a comfort zone for me with fishing, I have always said that huge seas and loads of white water are sometimes overrated, The truth is and Steve can tell you guys this, we have done fantastic on some of the calmest nights.... Every condition has its place and time I guess, but for me now, I just dont need to get my arse kiked to catch fish anymore, however a nice bass taking in the whitewash is a one of the finest sites there is!

So much for trying to add pictures the way I use to.

This should work now.

Here's an example of extreme white water:

So much for trying to add pictures the way I use to.

This should work now.

Here's an example of extreme white water:

Thats for the 20 somethings mike! a tad to rough for me.....

Mike- thinking about it somemore-- I have to say that my favorite conditions usually follow a hard southwest wind during the day subsiding at night. Throw in the new moon and fish are almost a sure thing, no matter what month of the season.

Mike- thinking about it somemore-- I have to say that my favorite conditions usually follow a hard southwest wind during the day subsiding at night. Throw in the new moon and fish are almost a sure thing, no matter what month of the season.

One would do well to flip in his offereing on the conditions you mention

I often see bass working the edge of the white water and seldom find them right in the thick of it. More times than not they are UNDER the suds or off to the side.

They are no doubt attracted to the wash, but they tend to wait for something to get tossed their way as opposed to going into the slop to feed.

That last image looked a lot more dramatic than it really was. However, you have to be on your guard, as you boys know, several small waves and then a big surprise.

Steve, I know this is more your style:

Thats more like it!

Give me a Huge Bright moon, Flat calm seas, No wind, 70 degree water temps....and a live eel , toss in a few rocks...and water clear enough to drink...:laugha: :tooth:

Champaigne water...........


:cheers:

As long as you're not in a boat and up tight to the rocks, I think fog keeps the bass close to shore even after the sun has lifted.

Who's your ideal fishing buddy...someone who goes out no matter what the conditions?

Or is someone who just makes it a better experience by being there?

I'll take the seam of a nice rip over whitewater anyday. :buds:

Who's your ideal fishing buddy...someone who goes out no matter what the conditions?

Or is someone who just makes it a better experience by being there?
Ummmmmm I would chose her:drool: :drool:

Who's your ideal fishing buddy...someone who goes out no matter what the conditions?

Or is someone who just makes it a better experience by being there?
Spot cooler?? :hihi:

Whats she do a handstand to drink that??? :bounce:

That can is hot:bounce:

Now back to your original question. Worse the weather, bigger the fish.

Whats she do a handstand to drink that??? :bounce:

We Can Only Hope.


You should see where she keeps the Jerkey. :hee:

HA! nice pics Mike!
the one with the guy in the fog looks like he is walking on water!!

I'll take the seam of a nice rip over whitewater anyday. :buds:I'll second that.And yes the edges are better Then there was friday night 2 bass 50' feet from the white water got noting in the white water or the rip in front.

I must go to anther site now after looking at that picture mike.:cputin:

I hear she carries a fish rope, with a few knots every few feet. Its not visible in the picture though..... :rotfl:

Certain spots I LOVE white water, if it is clean, then bigger is better... most spots I prefer some water but not more than 2-4ft...

i find that brighter colors work better in white water..

It took me a while to realize that if you throw a white plug into frothy white water, your not going to have much luck-

now this plug was meant for the suds IMO :humpty:

nice! :humpty:

i find that brighter colors work better in white water..

It took me a while to realize that if you throw a white plug into frothy white water, your not going to have much luck-




I don't know about that....
My favorite plug for working moderate white water is a white surfster or a herring bm danny.I never really subscribed to the notion that colors make much of a difference ,especially in white water.
What I do find is that bass trail the rushing wave and feed in the foam behind it.Getting your plug to land in the foam at precise time the wave is breaking is what I find to work for me.I generally find that I don't need more than a two crank with a reel before metal lip is engulfed...if the fish are there.


How many of you out there actively look for conditions where you can work the suds?

What do you consider optimal conditions?

How do you stay safe?

I prefer to fish the rips instead of the open beach but if I am playing a sand sissy I want the white water.The more the better from either southerly or easterly direction.Anything but a cross wind or a hard west.
Optimal conditions ?
Moderate to hard southerly after the coldfront in the fall .Gets the bait moving and provides lots of cover for bass.
Obviously ,each location is different depending which way is facing.
Staying safe ?
can you say "wetsuit"?:usd:
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=16368&stc=1&d=1153253080

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=16369&stc=1&d=1153253167

I really like a superstrike bottle plug for alot of white water. I lay the thing in the froth and just let it drift around with tension....works REALLY well.
Interestingly enuf its the white one, i discovered this a few years back, give it a try guys.

Who's your ideal fishing buddy...someone who goes out no matter what the conditions?

Or is someone who just makes it a better experience by being there?
Now your talkin'. I have the urge for a Bud Light now..:hidin:

For me it depends what the wave is breaking on.

Several of my favorite spots have big boulders in them with fairly steep walls. 6+ foot vertical walls. I always think of the backside of them as being like the bed of a pick up truck. It's likely to be a dead spot with minimal turbulence, and I think the stripers lay up right in there because of it. So in that case, the moment that wave passes, I'm parking a plug almost on the rock, deep in the froth, and working away from it. A lot of my poppers have serious damage to the ass end because of it.

I picture the striper sitting in there waiting and each time a wave goes over he's looking up to see what came by in the passing wave. If something is there, it gets crushed. A good pencil popper heavy enough to settle and work in the mess (usually yellow over white or white) is often my weapon of choice followed by a metal lip. Herring color almost anytime, blurple for the other times

A more mild, sloping rock causing the whitewater changes my tactics a bit.

The wetsuit is of course my choice for nasty whitewater. I just feel safer in it.

http://www.surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/whitewater1.jpg
I like stuff like this...just at night
I like points and its interesting how the whitewater will often make up in a point - like in the picture above.
Freaking rife with possibilities....
Rolling, well spaced waves, discernable foam lines...Peaks, waves coming from multi directions, 2-4 footers.

Pete - It reads like your describing visualization, I'm a believer.