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eelman 09-21-2006, 11:34 AM Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 11:41 AM surf is surf
shore is shore.
It is shore fishing absolutely
so if there are only 2 catagories to choose from , and someone calls them surf or boat, well it ain't boat so it must be surf.
The canal is not surfcasting, it is casting from shore though.
Have you ever been there when waves ARE coming thru? it sure can look like surf.
"its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?"
Nope, it's not any of those, it is a canal, a man made canal. and there is no other place quite like it on earth.
the way you wrote the poll, saying the second choice is it doesn't fall under any catagory is a little strange to say the least.
eelman 09-21-2006, 11:43 AM Ok then, fishing a fresh water lake is also "surf" fishing???? Yes shore is shore but the word "surf" means something, if you have no surf than how can you call it surf fishing?? You cant! Its not surf fishing..........
Mike P 09-21-2006, 11:44 AM If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE :rotf2:
reelecstasy 09-21-2006, 11:45 AM shore fishing.... and i have been there when waves are pushing thru, yikes!
eelman 09-21-2006, 11:45 AM If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE :rotf2:
even the great lakes have wind driven waves ! nope it aint surf fishing.......its "land " fishing
reelecstasy 09-21-2006, 11:45 AM If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE :rotf2:
Too funny, when I wrote my reply that is right where I was thinking...:uhuh:
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 11:49 AM Ok then, fishing a fresh water lake is also "surf" fishing???? Yes shore is shore but the word "surf" means something, if you have no surf than how can you call it surf fishing?? You cant! Its not surf fishing..........
I don't call the canal surf.
you have a point, if there is no surf, how can you call it surf. So when the ocean beach is flat as a lake,like on race point at times, then you can't call that surf fishing? nonsense.
surfcasting is from a beach with waves crashing in front of you. Surfers surf in the surf, surfcasters fish in the surf :D
Why does the canl have to fit in some catagory? the place is kinda unique. I hear they catch fish there on eels too:uhuh:
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 11:52 AM land fishing? what? now it's land fishing, oh ok :) so we try to catch fish from land, you make it sound like we are casting onto land to catch a landshark:beat: :huh: :pop:
Now I see why clammer calls you whako ;)
Mike P 09-21-2006, 11:57 AM Hmmm, this topic sure does ring a bell---now where have we had this discussion before :read:
Oh yeah---now I remember :think:
http://www.wmi.org/saltfish/saltboard/surf_fishing/T4511.htm
See Bill, here's one thing you and your old buddy Gowgie agree on :btu:
eelman 09-21-2006, 12:08 PM I don't call the canal surf.
you have a point, if there is no surf, how can you call it surf. So when the ocean beach is flat as a lake,like on race point at times, then you can't call that surf fishing? nonsense.
surfcasting is from a beach with waves crashing in front of you. Surfers surf in the surf, surfcasters fish in the surf :D
Why does the canl have to fit in some catagory? the place is kinda unique. I hear they catch fish there on eels too:uhuh:
Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word...
Diggin Jiggin 09-21-2006, 12:09 PM Lets just agree that a fish caught from there is a shore fish and therefore, they count.
And by the way, jig fish count double :uhuh: .
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 12:10 PM I see
and I am lightened up, I lost 2 pounds.
MikeP, I like DZ's reply =
7/6/1999 3:38:00 PM Submitted by D.z. (205.67.218.30) from RHODE ISLAND says Surf Fishing
Surf Fishing is any kind of fishing from the shoreline. Surf Casting is casting with plugs or eels. I refer to all bait fishermen as surf sitters in the act of surf sitting. Dennis Z
Mike P 09-21-2006, 12:20 PM I don't know anyone who fishes the Canal exclusively. Not even guys who live 5 minutes away ;)
JohnR 09-21-2006, 12:22 PM Damn that was a long time ago, well not really, but in INterent & Dog years... Speaking of dogs - anyone beat lughead recently
eelman 09-21-2006, 12:40 PM Lets just agree that a fish caught from there is a shore fish and therefore, they count.
And by the way, jig fish count double :uhuh: .
Ummm No not really, "technically" thats not a true shoreline, its a breakwater kind of like the rivers edge...the shoreline would be a place like nauset beach, race point, etc....so they are caught from a man made rockpile:tooth:
Is fishing the providence"toilet" in the winter for holdovers from the land considered surf fishing?
tynan19 09-21-2006, 12:54 PM Where is this thread going?
Mike P 09-21-2006, 12:57 PM Hey John---think we can push this one to 96 posts? :angel: :laugha:
Karl F 09-21-2006, 01:03 PM Double sided Jetty fishin, and a river runs thru it...
it's shore fishing, yes.. but I would not liken it, to a night of surf fishing..
it is it's own unique style.
You certainley don't use the same techniques and gear, you do from a sandy beach.
eelman 09-21-2006, 01:06 PM Where is this thread going?
Its going no where and more tounge and cheek than anything, I can see mike knows that already basically its a useless thread so yank it if you like, give the mods something to do:smash: :smash:
fishaholic18 09-21-2006, 01:07 PM Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?
Who Cares!!!:fishslap:
It's all fishing no matter how it's done.
I fish because I enjoy it, doesn't matter how I do it, I like it all, boat,shore,rocks,beach,canal,toilet,whatever......
What about when they fished from bass stands in the old days? How do you classify that? Not that it matters..
The Dad Fisherman 09-21-2006, 01:17 PM Definition of Surf from American Heritage Dictionary.
surf (sûrf) KEY
NOUN:
The waves of the sea as they break upon a shore or reef.
Definition of Fishing from American Heritage Dictionary.
fish·ing (fshng) KEY
NOUN:
The act, occupation, or sport of catching fish.
A place for catching fish.
So if you are engaged in the Act, Occupation or Sport of Fishing where the waves can break on the Shore or Reef you are standing on then its Surf Fishing. Doesn't say anything about it being "Qualified" as Man-Made or Nature Made.
eelman 09-21-2006, 01:21 PM Who Cares!!!:fishslap:
It's all fishing no matter how it's done.
I fish because I enjoy it, doesn't matter how I do it, I like it all, boat,shore,rocks,beach,canal,toilet,whatever......
What about when they fished from bass stands in the old days? How do you classify that? Not that it matters..
I care......:bl:
fishaholic18 09-21-2006, 01:23 PM I care......:bl:
Why? What does it matter?
Then if the Canal isn't surf, what is it and what are the guys who fish it???? Please clarify, Bill...:blush:
Mike P 09-21-2006, 01:48 PM If wind driven waves don't qualify as surf---Nobska Light isn't "surf" either ;) :devil2:
Anything on the south shore of the Cape isn't surf :humpty:
Whole north shore of MV :laugha:
Hell, all of Cape Cod Bay--Sandy Neck, Town Neck, Plymouth, you name it. :pop:
numbskull 09-21-2006, 02:07 PM Canal fishing is like surfcasting, only harder.......... but with better parking and bigger rats.
PoPin Plug 09-21-2006, 02:11 PM you can only call it surf if there a hundreds of boats coming ziping by causing bunch of waves and theres a storm about to happen other wise... NOPE!
ProfessorM 09-21-2006, 02:12 PM :yawn:
chris L 09-21-2006, 02:24 PM I call it canal fishing ! it is canal fishing so I call it as I see it . could be classified as shore fishing but I wouldnt call it surfcasting or boat fishing . river fishing is a close cousin of canal fishing . So If I was fishing in the erie canal would it be erie fishing :eek5: .
boat fishing = platform fishing
shore fishing = fishing from land into water of any kind
canal fishing = fishing a canal
river fishing = fishing a moving river
landfishing = landshark encouinters
Mrs. Arlsburgerhhh? what ? Mrs. Johannesburrrr? who is it ? Flowers flowers ? from whom ? plumber ma'am . I dont need a plumber . you are that clever shark arnt you ? candygram . candygram my foot Im calling the proper authorities . You're the shark, and you know it. I'm only a dolphin... A dolphin? Well...okay.) landshark !!!!!!!!
I was singing in the rain just singing in the rain what a glorious feeling just singing in the rain . Oh its not raining you say well I say it is ............. somewhere . is it 5 oclock yet yes somewhere it is .
If I fished in a toilet it would be power plant fishing . no ?
hey Bill have fun at that island .
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 03:25 PM #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&,
life is a canal.
you were brought into this world thru a canal
dentists torture u with root canals
u hear thru an ear canal
food goes into the alimentary canal
you make love to a canal (correct me if i'm wrong - if yer a back door guy even that could be called a canal)
so it makes perfect sense to hang up some jigs in a canal
:eyes:
chris L 09-21-2006, 03:27 PM LMAO while LOFL
oops I just did a fishweewee . guess I picked the wrong day for white pants
Skitterpop 09-21-2006, 03:33 PM Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?
Bill.... you said it yourself.... its The Canal. Have you been drinking? :jester:
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 03:38 PM oops I just did a fishweewee . guess I picked the wrong day for white pants
chrissy, you wore white after labor day? :hs:
Probably linen too.
He's got no idea.
chris L 09-21-2006, 03:44 PM yup Im a fashion mistake . never where white before labor day . I where it in the winter too for camoflouge . gots to hide from people .
I wish I had brick and wood camo too . thats for city camoflouge
in the spring its colorful clothing for the flower camoflouge
in the summer Im nekid and thats for the bare camoflouge
fashion is my world !
linen ? what the hell is that i wear a thong and a trainer . on occasion maybe I will wear a teddy . I have an idea oh wait it left maybe it will come back . them white pants are silk there big boy .
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 03:47 PM chrissy + nekid camo = :err:
a nibula :wave:
p.s. is a threadjack in progress?
chris L 09-21-2006, 03:49 PM no thread jack but I heard jack was off today
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 03:52 PM Probably linen too.
He's got no idea.
so you're not coming up to surf fish the canal?
i thought you were on the way:cputin:
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 03:54 PM no thread jack but I heard jack was off today
he fetchin a pail of canal water?
Skitterpop 09-21-2006, 03:59 PM Thats it.... I`m going to Ralph Reed`s Striper site :doh:
I love the ditch.It is easy to see EEl man i s tryin to belittle the skills of a fisherman who takes fish from the big ditch.
Of coarse it's not as hard as some other type of surfcasting.
I can do both.I like both.
I can go stand on a rock reef in the middle of the south side of Montauk an take waves all night or i can go stand on a rock an thro 4-5 oz jigs jiggin he big ditch.they are not the same both of em will wear u out after night of fishin em.both can reward u with good fish.
I can hang anywhere with u bill.No doubt in my mind.i know guys that are more hardcore than I.
U should come with me a few nights will hit 3 or 4 different spots.
Thro big lead all night.If u hook a 20 lber u will want me to reel em in for ya.When a 35 takes the jig he wants to hurt it.It's like havin a orgasm to a jig guy.O ya some spots if u can't chuck that 5 oz jig 120 only holdin the rod back to 10 o'clock, u ain't gettin em.
so eat ur wheaties..
If u ask me feedin live bait to big fish in the aquarium is not surfcasting either...
U like to stir the pot thats funny but u got no sense of humor....
I think clamma is right u are a whacko.Nice topic though..
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 04:02 PM i guess #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is too much man for all of us ditch sissies. :blush:
so you're not coming up to surf fish the canal?
i thought you were on the way:cputin:
Just doin a few eel jigs haven't decided.
I may check to see if i have a penis an go surf fish some real rocks..
MotoXcowboy 09-21-2006, 04:06 PM :hihi: all jacked up! :fishslap:
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 04:06 PM Just doin a few eel jigs haven't decided.
I may check to see if i have a penis an go surf fish some real rocks..
i think the weather will be better in the ditch than that surf spot, so decide soon.
let me know and I will plan
7 pm should get me there for a few hrs of the west...
Bronko 09-21-2006, 04:27 PM Just doin a few eel jigs haven't decided.
I may check to see if i have a penis an go surf fish some real rocks..
:hihi:
Saltheart 09-21-2006, 04:38 PM I agree with #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Any sissy can be a surf fisherman (folding chair , sand spike , chunkof bait , can of beer) but being a canal jigger takes a real man! :)
I think if you wet a line from a boat , even just one time a season , you can't call yourself a surf fisherman anymore either.
Come to think of it , I think I'm going to start calling myself a fish fisherman....is that redundant?
When Jesus gatherd his deciples , he said he was going to make them fishers of men. So I guess its OK to say fishers of fish too so fish fisherman is not redundant...I think , but I'm not sure.
Hmmmm
I do know for sure that people like Jules and Jenn cannot call themselves any kind of fisherman , regardless of where they fish. They are fisherwoman or less formally fishergirls or for the chauvanists..fisherbabes. So I guess the real question is whether they would be surf fisherbabes or shore fisherbabes if they were in the canal. yeah that's the question we need to answere.
God , I won't be able to sleep tonight with such important questions to ponder.
I better have a beer and think about this somemore!!
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 04:40 PM u shoulda been a lawyer saltheart
chris L 09-21-2006, 04:42 PM fishers might be politcally correct but I like fishbabes . I will have a few beers tomorrow night to ponder this more . only cause it will take me that long to get the thought to my head
gone fishin 09-21-2006, 04:45 PM I love the ditch.It is easy to see EEl man i s tryin to belittle the skills of a fisherman who takes fish from the big ditch.
Of coarse it's not as hard as some other type of surfcasting.
I can do both.I like both.
I can go stand on a rock reef in the middle of the south side of Montauk an take waves all night or i can go stand on a rock an thro 4-5 oz jigs jiggin he big ditch.they are not the same both of em will wear u out after night of fishin em.both can reward u with good fish.
I can hang anywhere with u bill.No doubt in my mind.i know guys that are more hardcore than I.
U should come with me a few nights will hit 3 or 4 different spots.
Thro big lead all night.If u hook a 20 lber u will want me to reel em in for ya.When a 35 takes the jig he wants to hurt it.It's like havin a orgasm to a jig guy.O ya some spots if u can't chuck that 5 oz jig 120 only holdin the rod back to 10 o'clock, u ain't gettin em.
so eat ur wheaties..
If u ask me feedin live bait to big fish in the aquarium is not surfcasting either...
U like to stir the pot thats funny but u got no sense of humor....
I think clamma is right u are a whacko.Nice topic though..
Nib -- ya hit it right on the head. :claps: Most that are posting on the thread probably have never spent a night ch#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g 5 oz into a 30 mph headwind to jig for the biguns!!!:doh:
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 04:50 PM Nib -- ya hit it right on the head. :claps: Most that are posting on the thread probably have never spent a night ch#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g 5 oz into a 30 mph headwind to jig for the biguns!!!:doh:
or six oz jigs on a telephone pole like an allstar 1209...all night
chris L 09-21-2006, 04:54 PM I dont know the telephone pole outside my house says UI 3756 . oops now I let everyone know where I live
I was hit in the head with 3oz
fishpoopoo 09-21-2006, 05:07 PM i find that very bassturbing.
Last week i put a 4oz jig off my head.Chipped the paint on the jig.shoulda got 6-10 stiches.went to the truck cleaned it up an went back out.
bassturbater.is there any other rod..
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 06:03 PM Last week i put a 4oz jig off my head.Chipped the paint on the jig.shoulda got 6-10 stiches.went to the truck cleaned it up an went back out.
bassturbater.is there any other rod..
wow, you're a real man
I'm going to leave now to bring my son Danny surf fishing at the canal, he wants to be a surf fisher for fish. He wants to catch a pollack
riverrat2 09-21-2006, 06:14 PM The canal is one of the most frustrating and difficult place to fish on the entire striper coast. Don't knock it till you try it. What is the point of this thread other than to start some contreversy? I respect the jiggers of the canal so much especially after trying to learn it the past few seasons. Eeling in the canal? Another art form in itself. Try setting up on a fish when the first half of your cast is flowing west and the last half is flowing east. Not fishing the canal because it has no "surf" makes you sound like an elitist. I like catching fish
Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word...
So I guess we that fish the canal are "Canal Fishermen"
It's the largest sea level canal in the world.
BTW Great topic are you doing a collum on it:jump:
5/0
Skitterpop 09-21-2006, 06:37 PM Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word... :rotf3:
Mike P 09-21-2006, 06:51 PM or six oz jigs on a telephone pole like an allstar 1209...all night
Actually easier to cast 6 all night than to cast 3 ;)
Okaaay, 36 to go :jump:
stiff tip 09-21-2006, 07:07 PM the canal is a gift from the fish gods. its like nothing else we got in the northeast.tides fast tides slow , up n down , east n west. 24/7.. not the beach or surf.its the CANAL thats all
fishman 09-21-2006, 07:13 PM Us in Upper Michigan fishing the Great Lakes call it " surf fishing" I'm not saying we are right but that is what everybody here calls it.
fishman 09-21-2006, 07:15 PM Some places that have beef and fish meals call it surf and turf so is surf water and turf land?
Rappin Mikey 09-21-2006, 07:19 PM penguins is practically chickens.:uhuh:
JohnR 09-21-2006, 07:22 PM Hey John---think we can push this one to 96 posts? :angel: :laugha:
Well on the way.... :buds: :rotf2:
Mike P 09-21-2006, 07:23 PM This knocks it down to 30 to go. We moved up ten places in 20 minutes :humpty:
Didn't bite on Nobska Light---kinda surprising ;)
thefishingfreak 09-21-2006, 07:31 PM some people say cucumbers taste better pickled :huh:
Skitterpop 09-21-2006, 07:34 PM would surfanal work :devil2:
Skitterpop 09-21-2006, 07:35 PM Howzabout curf fishing?
Skitterpop 09-21-2006, 07:36 PM What do you call dropping live bunker and eels on top of fishfinder bass? Home shopping network?
jkswimmer 09-21-2006, 07:58 PM [What do you call dropping live bunker and eels on top of fishfinder bass? Home shopping network?] LMAO!!!!!!
clambelly 09-21-2006, 08:33 PM i would consider it surf fishing because i use the EXACT same gear in the canal as i would at nauset beach. i own 3 rods and i would and do use them all in both locations.
to me, there is no difference.
MotoXcowboy 09-21-2006, 08:51 PM Canangling:)
sounds like.. Kah nan gle
Cananglers Canangle
Slipknot 09-21-2006, 08:55 PM I like that Moto
Canangler, it has a nice ring.
Squid kids Dad 09-21-2006, 09:11 PM lol...:bgi: dropping live bunker on fish..good one
CanalGuy 09-22-2006, 01:22 AM You have got to be kiddin me throwing bait in the canal any sissy can do huh? They better have some coin because it's gonna cost em alot of rigs. Don't knock sittin in a chair throwin chuncks drinkin beer just because you don't consider it "angling". There is 1001 different ways to catch fish in the canal and nobody can positively say one way is better than another. It is not Surf fishing everyone knows it's Canal fishing and to each their own. Jiggin, Pluggin, Chunkin what ever is producing is all that counts. Try throwing a chunk in a spot someone else has not told you about and get hung up. Yeah it's that simple. The Canal has been passed on for years showing there really is no spot that is his "own". Anyway not to get distracted it is not Surf fishing there's no waves.:poke:
stiff tip 09-22-2006, 04:30 AM Canal fishing is like surfcasting, only harder.......... but with better parking and bigger rats.
i wish i would have said that.......its the same only different
Flaptail 09-22-2006, 06:55 AM Skitterpop, I love you! Great line and for this thread it was brilliant!
Canal fishing is a genre all it's own. There are methods there and plugs that were designed and made strictly with canal fishing use in mind ( Stan Gibb's pencil poppers, Cast-a-Lures slant face popper and Polaris were designed for canal fishing before anything else)
There is another place where the smae type of fishing exists on the east coast, the Delaware Canal. Our railroad bridge and thiers are twins built and designed by the same company. The tide extremes are no where near as great but the do have "breaking tides" and guys do fish them as we fish ours. No it's not surfcasting and it does alighn itself with shore fishing but's it's an entrely unique experience in bass fishing to be sure.
True surfcasting is done on sand beaches facing the open Atlantic where the structure changes day to day and the surfcaster has to constantly rethink his/her approach. Fishing the rocky ledges of the Elizabeth Islands and RI is a type of surfcasting but not surfcasting in it's purest form. The terrain once learned is easier to master as there are no major structural changes from day to day or week to week or season to season only the availability of bait and fish dictates success, once learned, affect the outcome. Change there is only significantly realized after a major weather event most likely being a hurricane and that is a rare occurence, yes standing on a slippery ledge in a high surf is very close and at times dangerous but the amount of guess work in figuring out the how and where is much less. Same goes for the canal and add live bait, fresh dead bait and it gets even easier,the hardest part being getting to your spot, which through little or no access and weather conditions, can be a dilemma.
A high surf fisherman, on an open Atlantic sand beach as we have on the outer Cape, Monomoy,Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard, the southern shores of eastern Long Island, New Jersey, the eastern shore of Maryland, Virginia and the Outer Banks is surfcasting in it's highest form and I firmly believe taxes the skills and knowledge of a fisherman more than any other type of fishing thereby making it the most rewarding when everything you know, have learned and is put before you and analyzed and a decision made, lays a gleaming bass at your feet in a rush of white foam and sand.
But this was a discussion of the canal and I do love the canal and was once a confirmed rat but it isn't the most challenging place to fish that we have.
Megabyte 09-22-2006, 08:29 AM #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& sure knows how to draw a crowd !
Is it called
Surf fishing or Surf catching
Canal fishing or Canal catching
Or ENJOYMENT !
tynan19 09-22-2006, 08:57 AM Must be something here to get 5/0 to speak.
Cold Fog, warm fog, night birds and snakes,
striprman 09-22-2006, 09:39 AM I have yet to see a person riding a surf board through the canal. I do believe I will at some point in time see it (ride the bow wave of a big old barge) or maybe a wind surfer.
I think canal fishing is certainly surf fishing, just don't get the "high surf" like on the beaches.
JohnR 09-22-2006, 09:47 AM Flap - I disagree that Fishing the Sands is more challenging and thus a higher degree of surfcasting than clammoring out on rocks and ledges. Yes, the sand does move frequently but the clues are often much more prominent than when fishing from the rock & reef, especially when you have hopped a couple rocks to get to a reefline 25 feet from shore depths that hide the tell tale signs of the seabed. I feel that fishing the sand is actually easier - physically - on the body than fishing from hopped rocks (especially after a fall that is less likely on the sand to begin with). Fishing the sand also offers it's clues a little more readily than a rocky shore. A ledge typically ends close to the shorline a sandbar is typically visible as it runs parallel or angles out with it's associated structure.
Each has it's detractions and enhancements and I would say both are worthy of being high end surfcasting.
if i kiss a #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& on the cheek am i gay? if he likes it is he gay?
in all sseriousness, IMO, surfcasting is casting into the surf with long rods, beefy tackle, etc. the canal is most Def. surfcasting.
RIJIMMY 09-22-2006, 09:53 AM all depends if there is tongue involved
Canalman 09-22-2006, 10:31 AM What happened Bill, someone catch a bigger fish than you in the ditch and now you have to discredit their catch??? :hihi:
Canalman 09-22-2006, 10:33 AM And how different is the canal than the channel?
Skitterpop 09-22-2006, 10:47 AM I`m trembling with excitement waiting for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& to get back from Cutty and read all his fan mail :jump1:
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JR..... rocks and reefs are tougher on the body if you do a lot of moving about or swimming to them and readings ok if you scout at low. Rocks are very dangerous.
The sand requires more research I think due to its everchanging structure and walking in soft sand is a killer with waders and gear.
I`d say both are equally difficult for varying reasons.
vineyardblues 09-22-2006, 11:17 AM In the winter they call it ice fishing:whackin:
Karl F 09-22-2006, 11:25 AM I got an extra 6 or 7 thousand seals.. think I'll send them to the ditch.
They can take several tons of mung with them too.
Than I can just worry about ever changing structure and miles of beach closures.
Apples and Oranges.. how can ya compare?
And.. Who gives a flyin' farq anyhoo... :doh:
Slipknot 09-22-2006, 11:27 AM keep the seals away Karl, we got enough problems with crowds of people
90 Mike
t.orlando 09-22-2006, 11:35 AM And.. Who gives a flyin' farq anyhoo... :doh:
or a rats arse
vineyardblues 09-22-2006, 12:14 PM NOT
CLAMMER $#@&#%^*^$(%&()%&*$#^$#%!#%$
eelman 09-22-2006, 02:53 PM What happened Bill, someone catch a bigger fish than you in the ditch and now you have to discredit their catch??? :hihi:
That didnt happen , did it??:sick: :sick: :yak6: :yak6: :jump1: :jump1:
The Chanel is different because I fish there alot:rotf2:
nightprowler 09-22-2006, 03:14 PM so close......:uhuh:
gone fishin 09-22-2006, 03:16 PM I never see a breaking tide on Nauset or PI or any beach, be it sandy or with the rocks of Rhody.:vamp: I would venture a guess that the average surfcaster would be totally confused by the anomalies of the ditch!:devil2: I have turned plugs that would not even be tossed to the surf gods, but in the canal rips and currents they dance.
I still call it surfcasting though:jump:
Mike P 09-22-2006, 03:28 PM I get to put it over the top :jump:
MikeTLive 09-22-2006, 03:39 PM lucky 99.
I am headin to the ditch in the morning.
I will let you know if I see anyone Surfing.
be sure to introduce yourself if you see a dude with a short red beard.
(well more like 2month-old shadow :) )
MikeTLive 09-22-2006, 03:39 PM D'oh!
stoopid off-by-one error!
The Dad Fisherman 09-22-2006, 04:07 PM Woohoo 100
Skitterpop 09-22-2006, 04:22 PM :tm:
Da Canal
Flaptail 09-22-2006, 05:25 PM Flap - I disagree that Fishing the Sands is more challenging and thus a higher degree of surfcasting than clammoring out on rocks and ledges. Yes, the sand does move frequently but the clues are often much more prominent than when fishing from the rock & reef, especially when you have hopped a couple rocks to get to a reefline 25 feet from shore depths that hide the tell tale signs of the seabed. I feel that fishing the sand is actually easier - physically - on the body than fishing from hopped rocks (especially after a fall that is less likely on the sand to begin with). Fishing the sand also offers it's clues a little more readily than a rocky shore. A ledge typically ends close to the shorline a sandbar is typically visible as it runs parallel or angles out with it's associated structure.
Each has it's detractions and enhancements and I would say both are worthy of being high end surfcasting.
But Jawny, see it today gone tomorrow, or by the end of the tide if the weather blows east hard. You always know where the ledges, holes rocks and such no matter what the weather gods send your way. And on the beach no matter what kind of foot wear your wearing it don't help in big surf, your feet go flying. Ain't the same JAWNY NOPE NO WAY. yOU MISSED IT btw, it was judt like the old days for two nights, now it's back to mung and seals and no fish plus it was very chilly last night and I wasn't wearing my lucky underwear and forgeot to wear underwear altogether which might explain the itch today. Salt and sand and mung make for a very itchy bum.:usd: :rotf2: :uhuh:
gone fishin 09-22-2006, 05:39 PM Ok -- just cast where the arrows are! :rotf3: OOOOPS spot burning ?:eyes:
ProfessorM 09-22-2006, 05:49 PM I got to have my head examined for reading all this jiberish.
Swimmer 09-22-2006, 06:30 PM Be standing in the canal waist deep in front of a home where I used to have permission to fish when the a.....e goes by that cant read the english worded signs that say "NO WAKE". But I still agree its not the surf.
fishaholic18 09-22-2006, 07:12 PM That didnt happen , did it??:sick: :sick: :yak6: :yak6: :jump1: :jump1:
The Chanel is different because I fish there alot:rotf2:
So Bill, what kind of people fish the canal?:eyes:http://img145.echo.cx/img145/1536/sc0734ig.gif
fishaholic18 09-22-2006, 07:16 PM if i kiss a #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& on the cheek am i gay? if he likes it is he gay?
I'm sure he'd love that..:yak6: :yak6:
Mike P 09-22-2006, 08:17 PM Be standing in the canal waist deep in front of a home where I used to have permission to fish when the a.....e goes by that cant read the english worded signs that say "NO WAKE". But I still agree its not the surf.
Or when a tanker or a deep-running barge goes by pushing tons of water ahead of it, and the suction almost pulls you under ;)
The Canal is the only place where I've lost fish to boats that didn't cross my line. The pull of that suction can tear a hook loose, just like when you try to horse a fish onto the sand against a receeding wave.
tynan19 09-22-2006, 08:21 PM Mike P, I love that sound. Before you can see the barge the water starts dropping around you.
JohnR 09-22-2006, 08:47 PM Flappy - What I'm saying is that there are certain things that make the sand Hard Core and certain things that make the rocks Hard Core and that they compliment each other in the Ethereal of Surfcasting. Both dig into the fabric of the soul. The canal can dig into the very soul of an angler too. So I would not venture to put one above the other...
Yeh - I missed it, but I knew if I went up it would have died that day :hihi: so you should be thanking me that I did not come up and you had for two, instead of just one :tooth:
Slipknot 09-23-2006, 04:57 AM What happened Bill, someone catch a bigger fish than you in the ditch and now you have to discredit their catch??? :hihi:
ya, I wonder why this topic got started :devil2: :usd:
couldn;t have anything to do with you canalman could it? :faga:
:sleeps:
eelman 09-23-2006, 05:59 AM A mindless post really done from a momentary feeling of boredom and over 100 responces some, quite serious:doh: :rotf2:
Must be something here to get 5/0 to speak.
Cold Fog, warm fog, night birds and snakes,
Yur not kidding,don't forget skunks,deer and hungry racoons:smash:
I briefly spoke my .02 on the 2nd page.
This #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is a total hoot.He love's to toss out these (so called polls) but already has an agenda to speak of & then slams people with statements like he's on this almighty Soap box.
He too is like surf fishing..........He comes & goes with the tides.
Im looking forward to the out going tide:rotf2:
5/0
LINESIDES 09-23-2006, 01:25 PM Keep it on the lighter side! It's more fun. I think I have the answer!
Canal:TRANSPORTATION waterway: an artificial waterway constructed for use by shipping, for irrigation, or for recreational use. A canal may take in parts of natural rivers along its course.
I have every respect for the canal fishermen/man/fisherwoman/women!
It has it's own science. To be successful you need the knowledge, or a lot of luck!(Right place right time!) Every time I have been their I have done a header on the rocks.
So one thing is sure, you need to be sure footed.
Answer No.1 You are a Recreational Fisherman/Fishermen and or fisherwoman/women!
On the lighter side you could be fishing in a trough [ trawf, trof !]
Trof:a long hollow area in the surface of the ground or the sea bed, or between waves, a narrow channel, in which liquid passes.
I like the latter.
Answer No.2 They could be Trof fishing people. That will cover both sexes. :alien:
Bill see what you started. You certainly should win the most controversial posts award!:wave:
My defenition is it's a Trof. When you come right down to it, it is a trof of water that is controled by the moon and the tides, that carries fish to and fro!
Later Folks, L:sleeps:
eelman 09-24-2006, 08:53 AM Yur not kidding,don't forget skunks,deer and hungry racoons:smash:
I briefly spoke my .02 on the 2nd page.
This #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is a total hoot.He love's to toss out these (so called polls) but already has an agenda to speak of & then slams people with statements like he's on this almighty Soap box.
He too is like surf fishing..........He comes & goes with the tides.
Im looking forward to the out going tide:rotf2:
5/0
No, No...you have it wrong, no soap box just a boulder:rotf2: I never slamed anyone in this ridiculas post, it was just in fun....:smash: Hopefuuly you canal guys will have another "Columbus day massacre":happy: :happy:
tattoobob 09-24-2006, 10:18 AM I call it tidal fishing like fishing in a river mouth or estuary
So basically it is shore fishing, No mater how it is fished it is
not easy, the only place I sranged my ancle from a hard fall
about 10 feet up, climbing down.
fishaholic18 09-24-2006, 10:22 AM #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s just pissed cause he can't fish from his boat in the Canal//:jester:
I love tha Canal. Slip was gettin a lesson from NIB, moanin an whinnin the whole time.I made him proclaim his love for the ditch over an over louder an louder.
I love the canal.
I LOVE THE CANAL...
well it worked an mister moany was canangling angain..
Who cares what it type o fishin u call it...
It is not for everyone an as far as I'm concerned that is good.
I'm glad the fish vacum #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& does not go there.more for me.
eelman 09-24-2006, 02:20 PM Now I am intrigued, who will guide me on the famous canal...I want to fish there...take me out there!!!!!
Now I am intrigued, who will guide me on the famous canal...I want to fish there...take me out there!!!!!
Ur not allowed.
I saw the sign at the rotary.
It was F-18's avatar with ur face in the middle..
go catch all the fish in cuttyhunk..
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