View Full Version : Poor JohnR/ Can you imagine?A brother in law Like me???


eelman
09-06-2000, 03:11 PM
I wonder what it must be like for poor john? having to cower at the site of yet another new post from the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&!! It must be tough to click on it and see what trouble lies ahead!! I feel for him.The funny part is he has to tightrope on this one,I think if I were anyone else I would have been tossed out on my ass long long ago but, john in his ever present state of patience,just hopes that I queitly fade away!

You see,he is in somewhat of a pickle here,we are related by marrige and that alone is enough to scare anybody!! Can any of you imagine ME marrying your sister!!!!! Scarry thought isnt it!! Would you talk her out of it??? On the other hand,john knows where to look if he needs a good size fish,that is a bridge that simply cannot be burned!!

Now for the kicker!!! I will be an "uncle" to johns new child!! Whats worse I ask you? Being a brother in law? or him having me as an uncle to his first born!! This leads us to the inevidable,If john has a boy,who do you think that young child will want to talk to when he decides chasing stripers is a noble pursuit in life!! Hmmmmmmmmm,I have a feeling I will be his Favorite uncle #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&!!!!!!!!

Yup, everyone has a cross to bear my friends and, johns is heavier than most! I feel for him! Im certainly causing him to severly scratch his head!! I may even be putting some gray in there!!

What would all of you do if you were in johns shoes?? How would you keep peace(and good fishing info) flowing? would you tell your sister to toss me out on the sidewalk?? would you bar me from posting on the board??? He is in a tought spot,of all the bro-in-laws he could have gotton he has got the one the only #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&!!!!!! wow,good luck.......

Got Stripers
09-06-2000, 04:03 PM
Yes sir, that would be a frightening thought. On the other hand, at my disposal would be a wealth of information and experience. Be clear on that point, because that was never the issue. I would hope for the same respect, because although I now own a boat and am content to fish the daylight, that doesn't mean I haven't paid my dues. I fished 15 years from the surf, 10 footer in tow, before buying my boat. Add the 14 years experience with the boat, which I might add expanded tremendously my knowledge of the behavior and habits of stripers, that's a lot of years to draw on. I'm no Johnny come lately when it comes to striper fishing. I run my own business, have a wife and 3 boys, parents that are now in need of special care and my priorities aren't what they used to be.

I have a great deal of respect for your abilities, because although I don't know you, I can read between the lines and realize you know of what you speak. What I don't have respect for is your belittling my choice of methods, timing, size fish I randomly target (remember I don't go out to target small schoolies), that somehow those choices of necessity make me less of a fisherman than you. Send me the winning lottery ticket for the next Mass Millions drawing, please I'd appreciate it. With that I would sell my business, take care of my parents situation, have the money so my family is set for life and go back to chasing the large ones at my leasure. In a blink of an eye, I'd be posting about the large ones that you feel it's all about. Don't think I'd rather be out there doing what your doing, but circumstances don't allow it.

Your attitude is what I take exception to. Not that I need your acceptance, because I don't, but your constant negative responses to what I see as positive input to this board really burns my butt. Like I said before, your diplomcy skills are sadly lacking and it's too bad, because you clearly have a lot to offer this or any striper board.

I've said all I care to say on this subject, but I think you get the point. Tight lines and I wish you a productive fall.

JohnR
09-06-2000, 04:39 PM
Bill, you are helluva fisherman and like I said, striper contest from the surf, my big money goes on you. Having said that, sometimes your attitude sucks. I know that much of this is in fun and how it tends to get nasty at the end of every other month but people can't often tell if you are having fun or busting stones. You do show disrespect for other people when they don't do things your way or if they question your abilities. That's uncool. You may be the current king when it comes to landing the big two-handed bass but you're people skills tend to suck at times. My first born will be regaled with stories of the legendary Bill Nolan but damn if I'll let him fish with you until he's old enough to know that its not OK to quit elementary school to chase world record bass at the old age of nine <img src="/Images/Tounge_Wink_Face.gif"><!--e5-->. For the record, that was a friendly tweak. You are a phenominal surfcaster but sometimes your people skills come up short. Those skills are what pays the bills, deals in an emergency, and burries a friend or family member. Not the largest striper caught last week or last year.

Now this is not a business in the sense that I can stay home and work on the site all day (explains why I have not rotated out some of the junk and updated as often as I'd like). If I cover the expenses of putting this out and make a little extra, that's OK. I'm not doing this too get rich quick. It won't happen like that. We never left Kanasas, Totto. You have so much potential to contribute here and I would like you to be involved more with some repsonsibility and the rewards that come from it but sometimes whether the words don't come out right or you just go out of your way to tweak people or whatever, you have the potenital to become counterproductive. You are too good to striper fishing to be jettisoned at every turn, even though that seems to be your goal at times. And I know that you can be a good guy. I've seen it.

But the sun will always rise tomorrow and I'll still be Alisson's godfather and I'll still respect your fishing abilities but this place will not become the Bill Nolan show. Last time I checked, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.com was still available (I told you to get it!!) so you can start you own site if you'd like, I'll even offer my assistance <img src="/Images/Tounge_Wink_Face.gif"><!--e5-->... In a line from STRIPES, Lighten up Francis!!! Relax kid. Don't get yourself all worked up.
I can't wait until my goddaughter is in school so you can work for The Fisherman or something. Bill Nolan, roving reporter from the Rhody Surf or something like that...

OK? Got you rise out of me yet???

eelman
09-06-2000, 09:23 PM
Got the rise john,just didn't expect all that.FYI I have contributed to this site,In fact I think I went beyond with info,just scroll down the ask board.It wasnt recieved well however and honestly,it was a total waste of my time! I would give lengthly responses to questions ,some at your urging and then there were no follow ups.Like I said,wasted time.

My people skills work just fine and they are,tell it like it is,dont sugar coat bullcrap.I have made it this far just fine on my own and can continue to do so.The people that matter,the few close friends I do have and fish with often know full well I would bleed for them if I had too! Thats what matters,thats where it counts.Posting on these boards has always been somewhat of a novelty to me and I take it that way,I have never hidden behind a bogus name or multiple ISP'S.....If I have such bad people skills,why is it inperson everyone wants to fish with me? I dont trust people and I dont like alot of people,I also dont need alot of people.My family and close friends are all that matters and until someone PROVES Different they are the enemy...The snake always wins,the killer whale always gets his meal and the rabbit always runs for his life! I like the wolf!!

Wheather or not I ever post again wont make any difference to me at all,what have I got in return?? I dont want the bill nolan board,we all know its your pet here,If its so hard,why do it?? if there is no time for it,why do it?? nobody does anything for free!! sooner or later its going to get old giving complete strangers a free place to lounge and chat,these web sites are alot of work and take up a ton of valuble time,you certainly at some point want a return for that time and work,I dont think im being out of line here,Its honest.

I may not be the best debater or writer on these boards,but on the water its a different ball game.Thats where it counts! There is nothing wrong with wanting to be the best out there,as for the stetzco argument I say,Give me a break!! His claim to fame is one fish!!Put him in the boulders and out of the sand of cape cod and see how he holds up.Daignault is one of the most hated fisherman there is!! Yet,he is laughing all the way to the bank!

Im going to lay off the posting and let you guys have your friendly nice big hug board back! Ill be on the water plying the trade and listening to the drag scream.......As always....

squidlips
09-06-2000, 09:26 PM
So JohnR, how many hits you figure "Gods gift" costs you each month?

Jamie+M
09-07-2000, 07:53 AM
#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& -

No one here or on any other board will ever doubt your fishing knowledge. I've been reading about you in The Fisherman as long as I can remembner. That says something about your fish-catching ability. I've always been surprised at how willing you are to share information. That says something about your character.

However, it is too bad that you feel that everyone is "the enemy until they prove otherwise". That's a tough way to go through life. I don't know you, but if that's your attitude I'm going to assume that somewhere along the line you've been stabbed in the back. It's too bad you assume I'm the enemy, because I'm a pretty good person.

In my experience, people in general are OK, and this goes even more so to the fishing and boating community. Marc Z and I didn't start fishing seriously until we wre in our 20's, and we've gotten TONS of help from people just like the ones on this board.

You say "the snake always wins", I wouldn't be too sure of that. It may seem like that in the short-term, because those who push, shove, and take short-cuts will win in the short-term. In the long run, however, it's how you play the game that matters, and virtue IS its own reward. And most people, I think, would rather play by the rules than cheat.

My Dad, one of the truly great men of all time, always says "let a smile and a handshake lead your way through life". That's not a bad philosophy. You say you don't need a lot of people, that's fine. But you might be better off giving some of us the benefit of the doubt before you assume I'm the enemy. People are a little better, I think, than you give them credit for.